Archive IX 02/10/01 to 04/01/01

startdate 20010401
archive IX

THESTART IS THE BEST BAND OUT THERE AND I LOVE THEM CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM AT THE SHOWS
ERIKA <NADJAISAGODDESS@YAHOO.COM>
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the folley of modern technology. I am not a cell phone user. nor do i own any sort of paging device. the last thing i need is some kind of odd satellite linked contraption that buzzes and vibrates and beeps at me to carry around wherever i go. my friends all pack them though, and through these little machines, miracles are occurring...my friend ryan got a call last christmas eve from a senile old woman who kept asking for 'ricki', her son. ryan told her she had the wrong number, but the old bag insisted on him having ricki call her back. so ryan, on a whim, switched the first two digits of his number, dialed, and found the illustrious ricki's answering machine. without leaving his name or anything of the sort, ryan left a message simply stating 'ricki. call your mother, man its christmas.'...since that day, 'ricki's mom', as she has come to be known, calls on a weekly basis, most of the time during the day while class is in session. everybody knows by now, and even the teachers excuse ryan, so that he can go call ricki and tell him to call his mom. even though cell phones are considered on the same level as drugs in the school administration's eyes, even they have taken to forwarding the occasional calls from ricki's mom for ryan. to this day, ricki, nor his own mother, have any idea what their absence from eachother is causing in a small town high school in the middle of bumfuck.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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i believe it was on theprp.com the other day actually. it had been heavily rumored for a while, i think they're doing their own thing.
stefanie
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we're approaching 200 signatures in just a little over a day now. woohoo! keep those names coming!!! we will achieve this! hehe. thank you to everyone who has already signed and is spreading the word! you all rock!
special THANX out to HUMAN for spreading the message to the legions! you rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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how/when did you find out that weezer isnt doing warped?
natalie
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malcolm, it was really good, everybody enjoyed themselves and so did i! we are putting together a demo, i'll get you one for the next time i see you! and thanx for filling in the questionnaire, my ozzie mate sent it me...did you like the was most of the answers were aimee echo! heeheee!!!!
jen jen (i'm sober now!)
manchester, UK -

weezer aren't on warped anymore... hell, i'm just going for theSTART. those shirts better last til the tucson show. my friend needs to buy me one.
stefanie
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dude, if theSTART land the dm tour then you'll all get to see them play. go to depechemode.com and check the tour dates for yourself. find out when they'd be coming to your area and keep getting people to sign the damn petition. we should have had more than a hundred signatures by now. if you really want to see theSTART then do something about it!! thank you very much to all of you who have already signed the petition. keep it coming!
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Awww....i want a shirt too! But then again i also want to go to a show. thats probably not gonna happen too soon. uggh you guys in cali are so lucky. Ever so slowly inching eastward....faster i say! i cant wait for warped tour the start & weezer. its gonna rock.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
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does anyone know if thestart have more then one design for tee shirts? And if so what do they loook like? And does anyone want to buy me one if they attend a show, i'll of course pay you :D PLEAASE.
punchy
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i just wanna thank everyone for their support. the response about the whole thing has been amazing!!! you guys rule!!! but please head out and sign the petition if you haven't already! http://www.petitiononline.com/thestart/petition.html
thanx again everyone!
-amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hey, if you REALLY wanna help out please sign the petition we have going. this will be seen by depeche mode's management so the more signatures we get the better theSTART's chances are. get all your friends and relatives and house plants to go to: http://www.petitiononline.com/thestart/petition.html thank you so very much for your continuing help and support. it means everything!!
the petitioners ~puke & hyp~
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There are about 40 shirts left($10-15) and pins($1), When we run out, we will be out until the next tour.
scott
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are they selling any kind of merchandise at these shows?
stefanie
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Some one just got some good news! :)

Jen, SORRY I MISSED IT!!! Hope you had fun. The Questionaire will be back to you soon.
Metal Malcolm
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WHEN do they tickets for the Gotham and the Canes show go on sale? This is driving me CRAZY!!!!!!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

i agree with KT...keep going east and then a little north west then HEY your in manchester...if you guys want to play here i can cheap accomodation and free meals at the hotel i work at...whaddya say..no..ok!
alex..cool picture..that could go inside the CD cover as an optional extra...

malcolm...you bastard you missed my gig...it was good we did very well! next one is may 3rd! come if you want!
(a very drunk) jen jen
manchester, UK -

lex.... i'll take the train with you to go see theSTART at cane's in san diego.....call me and we'll plan something... bye doll
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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Who is going to be at the San Diego show? I am checking train times as I write this. I am going to make it a point not to miss any more theSTART shows. I wish everyone in the band great luck in AZ. Come back and tell us how it was. See all of you Heretics in CA soon! -Lex
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

alright, goddammit. you guys are inching out as far as arizona now, so just keep on inching eastward...
kt
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hey speaking of the chain reaction...has anybody been there? I have...it is such a tiny place....but that's cool cause i can be closer to the band. :)
Ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
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Hey thanks Alex!! I guess the site finally added theStart on cause I checked it last week and it didn't mention anything about theStart. I can't wait to see them and I'll make sure to bring a camera to take pictures and I can't wait to see some of you herectics
Ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
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Monday April 16, 2001 Simon Says (Hollywood Records), Tickets ON SALE 04/07 10AM In Reply, Finch, The Start, Porkchop Mohamed metal $7.00 at the door. Tickets available at Tickmaster. Show starts at 7:30 PM and ends at 11:30 PM. That is right off of the allages website, ellen. As you can see, it does have em playin. Just to let ya know! Later.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

okay i have a question about the chain reaction show in anaheim....i went to the chain reaction's official site (allages.com) and I checked the date and it says nothing about theStart playing....so are you guys positive theStart will play with boy hits car and simon says?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

"there iiiiiiiiiiiiisss a house in neewww orleeeeans, that they caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllll the riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiising suun..."
kidneythief
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Very nice pic alex. CD cover perhaps?

And yeah, they better play some good shows this summer Jen, i'm hopefully going over there too!
Metal Malcolm
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Just something cool for ya'll....my friend Dan worked on a pic that I took at the Galaxy with some effects. Check it out here or by clickin on my name. http://www.acmecity.com/deepbluesea/aquatica/38/start.jpg
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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Thanks Puke.
Alex
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alex ~ the song was veil. i think the last time they played it was the first show with jeff at the troubadour.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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i suck....i didn't see theSTART...i love you guys though.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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aah, well thats another one i have missed! i'll be over soon so the band better be playing shows when i'm there or i'll have the biggest tantrum you've ever seen
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

after theEnd, always comes theStart
Waterfall <thinkpig@yahoo.com>
chicago, il -

oh my god alex!! that's horrible!! You know what's weird? I just had a dream about theStart show at HOB even though I didn't go. In my dream everyone was booing them and giving rude comments and I was the only person cheering them on and clapping...then after the show they thanked me and gave me picks...pretty cool dream huh?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Yes!! I can't wait to go to the chain reaction to see theSTART!! I used to live near that place so I always went there....plus the show is on my spring break so yippee!! Can't wait to meet some of you herectics!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Oh yeah, the HOB was real cool and took my camera. I love those ex-prisoner guards. So, I will have shots from Chain and the Whisky when I go to those. Sorry, again.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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God damn! That was the best START show I have seen! Only one horrible thing: NO CROWD LOVE WHATSOEVER! There were like, 8 heretics, and we were the only ones giving love. I could not even believe how awesome they sounded, and the crowd was just SHIT! Like, I am talking minimal clapping, and no cheering. Rude comments, etc. were present. It made me feel horrible. But on to a better note: they sounded so AMAZING, guys. That is one thing I will give the HOB is their sound quality. So good! And they played a song that I haven't heard in a while (if ever). I would like to know the title to it. Oh yeah, nice lil additions to the drums, Scott. Great show, guys. -Alex
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

Stefanie - i live in NY. Yonkers,NY (sometimes referred to as the 6th borough of nyc). we border w/the bronx :o)
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
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Hello music lovers....i have a little .com 4 u all 2 check out. It's at urbantexture.net and it's the first article called "rant" please check this out....the 1st part of it is about something else, but the rest is what i want u guys 2 check out....please check it out..respond if u like whatever...thanks
31 <coalchamberloco_31@yahoo.com>
omaha, ne u.s. -

fucking hell! leave it to me to screw up the attention part. yeah - excuse the spelling mistake
hyp...
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ATTENION!!!!!!
do you like depeche mode? would you like to help theSTART gain more exposure? depeche mode are launching a tour to support their new album "exciter" and theSTART would absolutely love to have the opening slot. for those of you who attended the dm "singles" tour then you know that stabbing westward was the opening band. in fact, a couple members from stabbing westward had the honor of being dm's back up musicians for the tour. if you'd like theSTART as the opening band this year then please send an e mail to srpukealot@aol.com OR hypnaughtika@yahoo.com AND please put "exciter" in the subject line.
thanks.
hyp & ~sir puke~
hypnaughtika & ~sir puke~
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We go on very early tonight- 8pm... so lets all drink lots of coffee to make it out and be awake at that hour! Can somebody give fiona a ride?
echo
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agh, i need more. i think there is an electric fence around the southwest that zaps theSTART when they think about playing shows elsewhere. anybody here from the nyc area?
stefanie
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sssooo, hows things going, you all oki? goood! i don't have much to say really...but good luck wiv all the shows and everyone whos going to them...enjoy yourselves!!! lv jen xxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Lol. I sent the Ticketmaster boy into a freanzy today, cause I guess theSTART wasn't listed as playing with Goldfinger, so I decided to play around with him a bit and make him search for it. It was hillarious. Well, I will be attending the show at Chain, the Whisky, and Gotham...I don't know about the Arizona shows tho..lol..but San Diego is a hopeful. I hope to meet some more of you sometime! Love ya Erika! -Lexicon
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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hello it is i, erika. how is everyone?.... i hope to see you all tomorrow night at the HOB show.... see ya lex!
erika
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HELLO... is anybody going to the HOB show tomorrow from the Hollywood area? two of us are trying to find a ride there/back if possible!! please e-mail me. Thank you. Fiona x
Fiona <fiona6@lineone.net>
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the START tour dates and venues as of 4/4...4/5 HOUSE OF BLUES, ANAAHEIM CA with Goldfinger *4/12 BIG FISH SPORTS PUB, TEMPE AZ *4/13 THE RIALTO, TUSCON AZ *4/14 GOTHAM, SAN BERNADINO CA *4/16 CHAIN REACTION, ANAHEIM CA *4/17 CANE'S, SAN DIEGO CA *4/19 THE WHISKY, LOS ANGELES CA.*these dates with Boy Hits Car and Simon Says. more to come...
hcw
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Shit man, that's tough. Sorry I can't be any more sympathetic, but i've just found out the reformed wildhearts are playing a Nottingham date. Woo-and indeed-hoo!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :D
Metal Malcolm
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woohoo! no school! i swear, it's fucking extortion. if you dont pay those bastards 10 dollars every year, you dont get to graduate. excuse me? i thought it was a PUBLIC school, for christs sake! Last year, i didn't pay my 10 bucks, so they gave me two bags of candy to sell. I ate most of it and gave the rest away, so then they started telling me owed something like 30 bucks for the candy alone. now, a year later, my due cash is up to about $75. all with having not done a DAMN thing. and theyre saying i cant graduate. this time next year i'll probably owe the chool something like 200 bucks. i swear im calling my fucking superintendant tonight. "Um...hello?"..."Is this the superintendant?"..."uh...yeah, but it's 3 in the morning"..."I just want to know why the hell is it i have to pay for a supposedly goverment funded school, and why is it that if i don't, i cant graduate, and all of my transcripts will be withheld?"..."who is this!?!"
kt
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hello people. even though theSTART were having some problems....tech. it was an awesome show and, they rocked live as always.... i developed my pics and i'll try to post them soon....with help from my buddy alex....love ya lex! thanks to everyone who was there and was supporting theSTART...they have awesome loyal fans.... thanks you guys!
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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yeah, bastards, meetin people....ive met a few "stars"....hehe, remember that band Jimmies Chicken Shack? I used to intern for their manager and old record label Fowl records...i met staind too(theyre my favorite)!!! The contest was all about gettin people to come visit theSTART and then theyhad to fill out a thingy and whoever got the most people to sign the thingy won! that was the contest in a nutshell....
dean
md -

well all you bastards...seeing the start and tairrie and jessicka! BASTARDSSSSS!!!!! yeah well i met tairrie as well in december and she was nice to me too...she went to the ritz with loads of us who went to the gig and i bought her an aftershock and she drank it whilst laffing at us doing the oliver reed song!! so nerrrrr!!!

well done to you guys who won the competition...what was it all about?? ssooo i'm off to go to work now *woo* bye xcxcxcxc
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I went to the Troubadour the other night to see The Start and guess who I saw?Tarrie B of My Ruin and Jessicka who used to be in Jack Off Jill!!!!! I could not believe my eyes. Seeing them together was the highlight of my night because they let me take about a million pictures with them and they let all my friends do the same. I still smell of Angel from Tarrie all over my jacket. They were so sweet and nice. How come Aimee and The Start crew are never at any Ruin shows?It would be so cool to see them play together again(wishful thinking I guess).I was so excited about seeing The Start but there were just too many technical problems and it sort of just ruined the vibe and show for me.Maybe next time?Anyway I will be there again and hopefully they will play more than 4 songs.I asked Miss B if she would get Aimee and we could take a photo of all three of them but she seemed wierd about that so I hope there wasn't a problem or whatever? When we asked her what she thought of the show she said that Bluebird rocked(but we missed them ). I asked her if liked The Start and she said that she has always enjoyed watching Aimee but she wasn't really into the music or band. My friend said that she told him she came to specifically see the guys in At The Drive In but I didn't understand that because they were not playing were they? Did they? Well can't wait for the next show...fix your gear so we can shakedown!
Miss Lux
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i won too! i tied second place with you i think...i wonder what we get...
dean
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TheStart was amazing as always. Pinky (aka the thief).....THE CHEESE JOKE IS MINE!!!!!!! HA ha oh and by the way, I was definitely NOT singing happy birthday *to eliza, linds, i remembered her name* because my voice probably would have just caused more technical difficulties, heh. It was great seeing Jessicka and Tairrie there...hopefully Pinky's pics turns out!!! Great show Aimee, Scott, Jaime, and Jeff! You guys rocked! xxoo
*A*M*A*N*D*A* <turasatana666@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

I still don't know what that contest was about. Duuuh...
Alex, do you mind if I take some of your pics for my site? You'll get a BIG thank yooou? perfect machine ==> theStart =)
Aimee - loooove the hair, very swiiish. =D
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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Yes, joke time was the best. What do you call cheese that isn't yours? NACHO cheese. lol. Even though that was Amanda's joke. I had so much fun at that show it's not even funny. I was baptized by Jessicka and Tairrie with their ever so sweetly smelling perfume. I enjoyed singing happy birthday with Sara and Amanda to...um...I forget who we were singing to. But it was still fun. And Jeff's new hair cut is cute. Interesting, but cute. THE BAND WITH THE BEST HAIR AWARD GOES TO *drumroll* theSTART! Aw. The best night ever. Yum yum.
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

The show last nite was fun(thanks to joke time). Even though technical difficulties got in the way and what not it was still fun. Miss Echo, I hope you like the little card and magnet I gave you. Hey Sara Pinky, I never laughed that hard you weren't being an asshole you were being really a heretic. Anyways, I can't wait until the 19th to see everyone again and I wanted to drop in and say something good. Oh yeah hi Sara and Amanda, I love you gals... Bye bye...
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

Alex, those pix are wonderful! thanks for sharing!!!! to theSTART , you guys look great. the show sounded really good. i wish i could have been there in person but i was there in spirit! are you guys gonna come over here before warped tour?? much love & thanks
natalie
yonkers, ny nirvanavcv@aol.com -

Who is the other person who won thestart contest? I WON! HHEHEH. My email said someone else won. Who was the other lucky one?
Sara <sara@spooky-kids.com>
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so yeah that show was the best thing of my life... my three favortie girlie singers in the house... me being the asshole telling jokes and being a loudmouth from the crowd... god what was I thinking?!? theSTART had overcome me! I was a modern day heretic!!! but yeah so I had soo much fun and I wasnt put down by the technicul diffuculites because theSTART rock my world.... ok well.. hi lindsay and amanda xoxo, sara ( 1/2 of the band theMIDDLE... Linds is the other half)
Sara Pinky <smeeba@hotmail.com>
The Hills, CA USA -

I am sorry to all, but none of the photos from the Troubadour show came out. I am so pissed, because first they take away my video camera, and then my film is all wack and doesn't work. I will have some from the HOB show, though. Sowwy. -Lex
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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Okay, last night was the best show EVER. I know your set was cut hella short, but check it out...Jessicka and Tairrie were there! I mean, I was freaking out. My 3 favorite girlies in the world * Aimee, Jessicka, and Tairrie * were there! It was amazing. You guys are amazing.
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

rock on!...those photos are fantastic!
kt
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alex, them pictures are great, everytime i take pictures at a gig they don't turn out very well! you must be the loveliest (if thats a word) guy on this site, sharing all your pictures with us...your the bestest!!!

aimee - like the hair. you've gone blond again!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

"I've never been in love with this kind of work, but to be flat honest with you, i'm proud that i did as well as i did at something i never intended to do..."---Jim Willet, now former warden of the Walls Unit of Huntsville maximum state pen. the Walls unit is the busiest death chamber today, as before retiring last week, Willet oversaw the executions of 89 prisoners on the table.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Just to let you know.. check out Chain Reactions' site @ allages.com// They have VERY good shows coming to Anaheim.. Jonathan Davis' step brothers' band is playing their soon as well... The band is called Adema and features ex-memebers of Videodrone(COT). Also playing that night(April 11th) Kleen, Overlooked, and Twenty Bucks. AND GET THIS> $5.. See you their, late.(show starts @ 7:30)
Charles J. Mounce <eyelessMC@netscape.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Alex, damn your pics came out really nice and clear! my compliments to your choice of camera.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, CA USA -

awww, hope everything went well at the show.....im happy now though, i got second place in the contest...dont know hwat happens when you come in second....ill see. blah blah blah, oh oh! i just watched a movie...Suburbia, very long and drawn out...but you see Giovana Ribisi (spelling?) naked, so its a must see!
dean
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P.S. I will have pics from all the upcoming shows, so stay tuned!
Alex
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I got the pics back from the Galaxy show! Check em out! Click on my name to go to see em! -Lexicon
Alex B <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

ok, so when do theSTART come to NEW YORK CITY already?! i don't want to wait for warped!
stefanie
wo, nj us -

this just in ... theSTART to play a short stint of shows with BOY HITS CAR. Cities and dates are as follows: 4/12 Phoenix, AZ -4/13 Tuscon, AZ- 4/14 San Bernadino, CA- 4/16 Anaheim, CA -4/17 San Diego, CA 4/19 Los Angeles, CA check back for venues on the FEEL page early next week.
MR> H>C>W
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set list for 3/29 Galaxy theatre, Santa Ana, CA.:1.GLIMMER MAN 2.MELT 3.COMMUNION 4.GORGEOUS 5.NEMESIS 6.HANG ON ME 7.HER SONG 8.VEIL(SONG DELETED) 9.SHAKEDOWN
hcw
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a very good synopsis of a very good show. it was taped by several video cameras so there's a pretty good chance somebody will have it up somewhere. was that vague enough? the really cool thing is that there were enough pictures taken of everyone that we can some day assemble a book chronicalling the ever-changing hair styles of theSTART's members. it could be called shears and bleach, a collection of STARTling hair do's or something to that effect. kinda like mapplethorpe ... only more musical.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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I went to the Galaxy. theStart performed aweseome!! But the person controling the sound did a piss pour job. Set list went something like this: 1.Glimmer Man, 2.Communion, 3.Gorgeous, 4.Nemesis, 5.Melt???, 6.Veil, 7.Hang on Me, 8.Her song(skipped), 9.Shakedown. They went on at 8:45-9:15. Jamie wore a striped white and red shirt fitting pants of course and sneakers. While playing an E-string came loose on his guitar. Amiee wore a black wife beater and army shorts with a black i think studded belt and her black shoes. Jeff sporting a new hair cut. Scott i think dressed all in black. After the show they were all walking around and i got all their signitures except Jamies. There all so nice! I can't wait for the troub where the sounds awesome!!! and the location much closer. you all are going to be there right!!!!! at theStart?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
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Before I forget, Jeff's NEW hair is awesome.
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kt=....going out with me and Jeff's girlfriend
scott
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kt=......playing after theSTART on saturday
Dubya!
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hey did anyone go to the galaxy show yesterday?? It was sooo much fun....i talked to aimee and got her signature....i was the girl wearing a one short sleeved black shirt...hopefully i can go see them in anaheim next week
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca usa -

(sigh) everyone have fun at the show....ill be here in maryland......yes, maryland...
dean
md -

Hey, David Bowie, thanks for wasting your time on our web site. You rule.
j
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so was the show at the galaxy good? it probably was...is someone gonna get a show taped and then have it streamed on to the site so we can all see?? just an idea!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

he he he......the show RULED! See ya'll tomorraw! Btw: Could someone put up the set list? I want to know those titles! Thanks. -Alex
Alex B <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

:::pops out of cake::: Happy Birthday Aimee !!!Hope you've had a splendid day. damn i haven't been online in a long ass time I've missed alot I gotta go catch up on some things bye everybody have fun at the upcoming show lucky monkeys you ::::waves:::
Brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
CT merica -

"John Frusciante is rumored to be..."...this has been bothering me for weeks...will somebody please finish that sentence?
kt
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Hey, I just happen to bump into your site, and I'm hooked! Do you guys ever play the Chicagoland area? If so, when?!? Please let me know!
Aaron Bogue <abogue1@uic.edu>
Downers Grove, IL USA -

Happy Birthday Echo!!! Have fun. I want a detailed account of the drunken debauchery which has/will take place. :)

Dave-You are not David Bowie. He has taste. Grow up.
Metal Malcolm
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david > what the hell do you know...why bother posting if you think its crap...you big mong!!!!! and on aimees bertday as well
jen jen
manchester, -

Your music is horrible bullshit: stuff that was played much better 25 years ago.
David Bowie <dave1@bowie.net>
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HAPPY BIIIRFFDAAAAYYY MISS ECHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::::throws streamers and confetti everywhere:::::::
crissy <candyazs@aol.com>
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sorry, the url doesn't work, i'll try again later!
jen jen
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well its that time of year again is it, sooo, happy bertday aimee, have a goodun, and have a few drinks for me! hope you have a great day!
and its so not fair, another show in damn LA! why don't you guys come here and play?

i've put a url on for a good manchester band! go to it and laff at bob!
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

Hey whats up? Can't wait to see you guys @ The Whisky the 19th..u guys r tight.EVERYONE check out ELEMENTS OF ENVY(11:30)@ The WhiskyAgo go sat April 21st along w/MUGG E-mail for more info
elements of envy <ie303@aol.com>
inland empire, CA U.S.A -

Happy Birthday Aimee!!! ur Beautiful!!!
*Angela*
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Hey I went on the Whisky's website and saw in their calendar that theSTART is playing on April 19th along with Simon Says, Boy Hits Car, and onesidezero for 5 bucks. Anyways, I just want to know if this is true if anyone knows about that show...
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

If anyone who wants to go to The Galaxy show tomorrow(3/29).. And can't afford a ticket or just haven't picked up a ticket. Email me and I will hook you up with a free ticket, free of charge. I picked up three tickets for the show and one person fell through and I have money.. so I don't care about that. So , just email me by 5:00pm tomorrow and I'll meet you their..// First come first serve though. Take care people.. and happy b-day aimee, Late.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Boy oh boy. theSTART really know how to make up all those LA shows to the OC kids. See ya'll at the HOB show!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AIMEE!! all the best wishes, hugs & cake!
natalie
yonkers, ny -

Happy Birthday from me too aimee!! *hugs*
laura
oz -

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AIMEE!!!!
*jeni* <ElectraStarr46@aol.com>
Picktown, OH US -

almost forgot... feliz cumpleanos! and many moooooooore.
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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oh no!!! that is the same freakin night as the (hed)p.e. and mugg show at the whisky (but if you dont wanna get beat up by security guards then i suggest you dont go) and it's also the same night as deepdown at chain reaction in the same blasted city. oh yeah, for those of you who were somehow impressed with the band otep, they're on the bill as well. ::sigh::

a promise is still a promise so theSTART it is. i cant wait!!
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Woo! Happy birthday Aimee! *blows up lots of party balloons...faints from lack of air* ;-D
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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THIS JUST IN... THE START TO PERFORM LIVE AT THE HOUSE OF BLUES,ANAHEIM THURSDAY 4/5 EARLY SHOW...MORE TO FOLLOW...HONOURABLY YOURS MR. CONFOUNDING WATERMELON
HCW
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Oops excuse that duplicate posting...bye bye...To everyone going to the Troubadour show on Saturday I'll see you there!!!
Lorie
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:brings out a birthday cake: Happy birthday to you... Happy birthday to you...Happy birthday to Miss Echo, happy birthday to you!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MISS ECHO!!! I hope to see you on Saturday. Love, Lorie
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

nyello!! sorry i haven't posted in a while, i have been recovering from a major hangover! happened sunday in wigan of all places! i was wearing a tie too!! wowee!!
malcolm, yeah, when it is it, i'll show up, i suppose! (j/k) course i'll come and see you! so long as you come here! on the 8th April for DEEPROOT, MIRRORFLY and STRANGE FRUIT! (was that a big enuff plug?)

don't know what else to say but...thanx for not going off me and acting weird for coming out on here! now everyone knows!! and i don't give a crap!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

the 'unform' is suppose is ties like always... you always get shit from people for wearing them also(if your a girl)..."girls aren't suppose to wear ties....blahblah"....hey amamnda what's up?... laters people...and remember be kind.
erika
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So what's the 'uniform' for heretics going to the Troubadour show then? Fee x
Fiona
London, UK -

To those of you who are open minded torwards music and looking to a career in the music industry. Check out urbanempire.com.. They are looking for level one street team reps and they promote for bands and clothing lines. They are only looking for serious aplicants though. Cause this aint no streetwise. Check it out and I will see you all on thursday @ the Galaxy.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

hello to all those who remember me.
p.s. - malcolm: i got in touch with that person.
hypnaughtika
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it's kinda like if you're with a group of people and someone who looks really dumb walks by you. some wont say anything, others will make rude comments under their breath, and some might scream "you look like an idiot!" at the top of their lungs. it just depends on what kind of person you are.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Why do pple attack pple in bands. Im in a band and well known in my local area. Yet certain pple just want to put me down and tell us we suck. But i am just doing what makes me happy and im sick of fellow rock fans being so judgemental. Why can pple be so cruel.....
Thirter <->
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hi peeps i aint been here for ages bet u were happy weren't ya? just under 3 months left yipee.Any1 else think the pic @ the top of the news bit is really cool?LOVE U GUYS cu soon 'fag' doesn't offend me either it confuses me wiv the U.K slang for cigarette.SORRY I'M STOOPID
muffy
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(sob) my computer crashed! its now at Best Buy......sadly i have to use th einternet through school for a little bit...ah well, i went to the dashboard confessional show saturday, IT WAS GREAT!!!everyone should check him out.but yeah..ill try and get on here as much as i can at friends houses and such. oh yeah! Human, whats going on with the contest? (sorry if im pressin the subject)*I could never swallow your false ideals, of a lifeless happy ending"-poison the well.......oh, good news, glassjaw show april 6th!!!!! and i talked to my mom, im livin at my grandmas for a bit.
Dean
MD -

Okay people, I need urgently the release date for theStart cd, please e-mail it to the above address. This is for a big magazine who need the info immediately. Thanks Deano- (deano_dilemmahhh@hotmail.com)
Deano- <deano_dilemmahhh@hotmail.com>
LONDON, UK -

Do you know what I think is weird.. When you hear all about something (ie a person or place) without ever seeing it and then when you do it is soooo different to the picture you had in your mind.. I don't know where my mind creates these crazy images from but they are always so far from the truth..
lauRa <fable@writeme.com>
oz -

"my very best friends would only stab me in the front"
kidneythief
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I know what your sayin' LOng.... People are so freakin' two faced. They just wait the moment you turn around and suddenly your the enemy. Its just lame. People need to start being more mature now.. Anyways, Late.. With RESPECT,
Charles J. Mounce(click on my link to read some lyrics of my album cummin' soon..) <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
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Ahhh, Back home. Unbeknownst to my parents, I have just rolled a nice fat spliff, and will be enjoying that later.
Sure Jen, I'll try and make it if I bdon't have an exam or anything on. Can you make it to my gig?

And by the way, Tank, good for you that you can be honest. I hate people who say "oh, I'm not homophobic, I just hate all those Queers" (I'm quoting). At least people can be honest. I know you're not a homophobe, but yopu can be open about your fears. Good for you...
Metal Malcolm
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its funny how open minded everyone is on the internet and how false everyone can appear but in the light of the real world it will all disappears,
LOngEr <->
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Hey Hey Kids! hows everyone? i hope all is well. i cant sleep cos i just got back from work (its about 2am) and its gotten to the point where im so tired that i cant sleep. i guess i'll put on glimmer man and run around my house till i drop. much love
natalie
yonkers, ny -

who cares if you don't satisfy someone else...your needs are way more important.....i give lots of respect to jen jen and dean....your parents will evently accept it...and if they don't it's there loss.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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dripping springs. southwest of austin, situated in the 'hill country'. houston, eh? youre coastal folk. i dont know about you coastal folk; inlanders are far more wary of weather and such intermediating factors so we live safely tucked away into the arpit of the land, deathly afraid of torrential tsunamis and tidal waves and generations of industrially diseased shrimp.
kt
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"all you non-smokahs, you non-drinkahs, healthy eatahs...you all gonnna feel like damn fools when youre lyin' on your deathbed dyin' from nothin'!"
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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dean, my mum is closeminded too, but i told her and she doesn't like it but theres not much she can do really! she still tries to find 'a suitable man' for me, but i have to remind her i ain't interested!
and i love being called 'dyke' i get them all at work, dyke, lezzer, ladylicker, rugmuncher, i find them all quite funny, the only one i don't like is lesbian! i hate that word!!!

malcolm, when in may, if you can come up here for the 11th (my bertday) i'm getting together a load of people and we're gonna get pissed! ooh and my mate that got beat up is out of the ICU and getting better, he had to have his lovely pink,blue and purple hair shaved off! i loved his hair!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

i have gay friends who use the word "fag" quite frequently. also, the word "gay" itself has somehow become synonymous with the term "lame" and all my gay friends use that termanology as well. sorta like the useage of the word "nigga" by some blacks. someone could call me a wop or a mc and it wouldn't bother me at all. i would have a good laugh, though.
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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My bad, I meant cities not venues: Not all venues confirmed yet.
CJM
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Here is the correct Warped Tour Schedule with venues...// Warped Tour Tentative 6/22 Phoenix, AZ 6/23 Las Vegas, NV 6/24 Fresno, CA 6/27 Chula Vista, CA 6/28 Irvine, CA 6/30 San Francisco, CA 7/1 Soda Springs, CA 7/2 Nampa, ID 7/3 Quincy, WA 7/5 Calgary, Alberta 7/6 Bozeman, MT 7/7 SLC, UT 7/8 Brighton, CO 7/10 Kansas City, MO 7/11 St. Louis, MO 7/12 Indianapolis, IN 7/13 Milwaukee, WI 7/14 Minneapolis, MN 7/15 Tinley Park, IL 7/17 Sparta, KY 7/18 Nashville, TN 7/19 Little Rock, AR 7/20 Dallas, TX 7/21 San Antonio, TX 7/22 Houston, TX 7/25 Atlanta, GA 7/26 Panama City, FL 7/27 Orlando, FL 7/28 Miami, FL 7/29 Tampa, FL 7/31 Virginia Beach, VA 8/1 Bristow, VA 8/2 Pittsburgh, PA 8/3 Camden, NJ 8/4 New York, NY 8/5 Asbury Park, NJ 8/7 Cleveland, OH 8/8 Buffalo, NY 8/9 Boston, MA 8/10 Montreal, QUE 8/11 Barrie, Ontario 8/12 Pontiac, MI
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, -

tank...no need to feel sorry, fag, it doesnt offend me..I was stating it...its funny, people call them fags to my face, and have no idea theyre talking to one...I find it hilarious, if anything I find it humorous at times....Unless they start talking about how wrong it is to be gay or whatever...
dean
md -

thanks a lot to the band and human for letting us speak our minds...it's incredable all the conversations we strike up....more power to you all. love and respects
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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Okay i will say this to express something in response to dean's earlier comment. I feel that i need to say sorry for people calling you "fag". But i must first admit that i have been known to call gay people "faggots" or "dykes". I know what every one will say, but remeber who of you is blameless? We have all done it about some one or something. Put them down to make ourselves feel big or fit in. Why because we are weak. All of us. Not just bigots -everyone. But we are learning. Things i can not understand scare me. Im worry about things i can't understand as it makes me insecure. I will never understand what its like to be gay or how it feels to be like you. This is a new age for society, may be you have adapted but give it time and don't give in... One by one we are learning to adapt. But life we all ways be difficult. Thats they way life is. I face prejudice every day just like everyone does. But maybe one day this will change but for now..sorry
Tank
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hah as do i, kt...what city in texas do you live in?? i live in tomball, it's north of houston, next to waller and hockley...not a very fun place :-(
well
thanks aimee, we love you too, that is why we are here!!
later all :-)
ricki
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"i'd be a richer man today, if it werent for physics; if i could levitate i would sell lots of tickets, then maybe do an interview with laaaaaarrrry kiiiing, while flooooaaaating..."
kt
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it takes balls of steel to let that fly, my friends. dean and jen, that is an amazing quality the two of you have; in the face of adversity, sometimes that twisted adversity can make you feel bent about yourself...where i live, in rural central texas, homophobia has surpassed racism over the years to a frightening degree. that's probably because out of the 1033 people in this town, the 3 minorities which live here are of less concern to the 'phobes than the idea that anyone of us...even their OWN children...could be...one of THEM! you should hear some of the church services out here. truly fucking bent. as my esteemed colleague in debate stated---these people just have no grip on themselves, to be so intimidated by...OTHER PEOPLE!!! AAAAAAAHHHH!!! i miss the city...i miss the open brains.
kt
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oh and jen, im not officially m out per say..i tell people if they ask...but otherwise, i find that it is none of their business. and seeing as to how im sixteen and still live with my closeminded mom, she doesnt know either...but all of my friends know, they dont care, its cool....i told them over the summer at some point.
Dean
MD -

sniff, i feel loved...yall are great, i was just venting, it felt alot better to just get some of it out.you guys still rule...and aimee, we love you too, and the band. h
Dean
MD -

Wow! Thanks Echo. It's nice to know the band still care.
Infact, Can I ask a couple of questions? I'm just wondering how Mikey is. have you guys seen him recently? How are things? and also, I'm probably doing an acoustic gig in May (Jen, can you make it?). If I can, I want to do an acoustic version of "Flying Machine". Any advice? Is it cool by you guys if i do? Think, your first tribute....

Going home soon. I won't be able to post as much for a while. Have fun y'all.
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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gee guys thanx, aimee we love you too!! your the inspiration for most of us on here!

y'know i don't give a shit about who knows! dean mate, neither should you!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Just want to say I love you all and thanks for making this place so brilliant! I love the conversation, the controversies, even the occasional idiot can give us moments of entertainment! But most of all I love the respect we all have for each other. It's really become a community, hasn't it? Thanks to every Heretic for being a part of my life. hugs and stuff
echo
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Well, I lived in Essex, and still do technically, being at Uni and all, and anything deviating from the norm there gets pretty much abandoned. I always found it spurred me on to be a much better person, coz I ended up really not caring what those people thought, and doing what I thought I wanted to do. Got me here, not that here's much of a happier place to be, but still.

And dean, and Jen, yeah. It's fantastic that you can be so happy and satisfied with who you are. Fuck everyone else, good for you.
Metal Malcolm
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i think that's awesome jen and dean, that you are comfortable with who you are :-) and i understand what you mean about the typical straight male...it's why i usually end up hanging out with gay or bi guys, because they are just so much..better? not to say there aren't some really cool straight guys :-P just be glad you don't live here in texas, because you'd be better off hiding in a hole, with all these bible thumping hick right wing conservatives...eesh.
RiCKi <someotherstar@hotmail.com>
tomballian, tx usa -

Bronagh > ok, sorry, didn't mean any of it!
jen jen
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dean...i know exactly where you are coming from, and no way did i know you were gay! thats fantastic! how long you been out for? i had to deal with a lot of shit off people when i 'came out', it was really hard for me..i had to deny it at school cos otherwise they all would have beat me with sticks! but just stick to your guns mate! when me and my girlfriend are walking in town (we hold hands and shit like that) and its usually dickhead men that start shouting...just don't let anyone take the piss, don't let them beat you down, like they did with me, if they shout stuff at you, use my line " YEAH AND?" or "YEAH IS THERE A PROBLEM?" but just stick with the people who know and don't give a shit, you'll be fine! we're all here for you!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I figure it this way on sexuallity.... Who ever you fall in love with, you fall in love with. As long as you are happy, then their shouldn't be a problem and people should respect you for that. Cause it is hard to find love and well if you find it, then go for it. Thats my mind on the subject, late.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

anybody who would descriminate against someone because of their sexuality must not have a very firm grip on their own. and, aside from those of us who are either gay or non judgmental on the subject of sexuality, nobody really does have a firm grip on that at all. that saying "it takes one to know one" has much truth to it.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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i totally agree with den....some people are scared of what others might say...when in reality one must be worried over ones personal opinion...to not harm someone....or yourself.... which in many cases may occur....it doesn't mean everyone is evil, but there are some bastards out there who want eveyone to be alike...that's why it's hard to be an individual nowadays. -(paige's & jaime's love slave!)
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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jen jen: I wasn't talking about you, I was just talking about the reactions I've had from meat-eaters when they find out I'm vegetarian, like it's a big deal...
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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I personally think it's fantastic that everyone on this board is so open and willing to accept what other people have to say. Sorry if that makes me sound pathetic...in fact, no, I don't apologise for it at all. It fucking rules!
Dean, I can't say i've ever been discriminated against to any real extent, being as I am A straight White Male (How dull), but I do feel embarrassed sometimes. It seems the straight guys I know who are like that seem to give the rest of us a bad reputation. Does it sound wrong if I say that sometimes I would prefer it if I was black or gay or female or from a foreign country, because there's always a real sense of support and pride. People are proud of that aspect of themselves. I have nothing to be proud of, and I sometimes seem to get lumped in with the rest.
Sorry, it's been 36 hours with out sleep, and i've another14 or so to go. Argh. Can't think straight.

Please ignore all of the above..
Metal Malcolm
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So, how about that band, TheStart? jk ha, wow, that wasn't very funny...No, I think it's great that people are discussing other interesting topics such as meat and sexuality (not being sarcastic)....it beats the hell out of Slipknot...but, Dean, screw those people at your school... just know that after high school they will still be the pathetic losers they are today...that always makes me smile...oh, and Pinky, 2 MORE DAYS 'till your b-day!!! xxoo
*A*M*A*N*D*A* <turasatana666@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

just to make conversation...anyone in here like dashboard confessional? im real hyped up cause im going to see him this saturday with The anniversary. but yeah..im gonna ramble now, take no notice. I hate people, well not all of them, there are quite alot of them i LOVE dearly. I just dont understand why someone being gay makes them a bad person. It really pisses me off that I have to defens who I am most of the time, or not even defend, sometimes i feel i have to deny who i am. Because, well since im gay im a FAG(sarcasm) stupid bigot people, just gets to me alot. I find it even more hilarious that these guys in our school give themselves so much credit, they think if a guy is gay he's gonna automatically hit on them. haha...And its even better when i sit and talk to some of these bigots and they talk about "stupid fags" and how theyre gonna beat their asses. When in reality, id be tyhe one beating their ass. I say we all rally, gays and straight people, we should all go STRAIGHT BASHING! I mean i think it would be funny to hear o9f something on the news about straight men being discrimnates against. Anyone ever seen Cecil B. Demented? Well youd get what i meant if you saw it...i love this speak out thing, get it all out, makes you feel better...Love to all you....
dean
md -

bleh, another day in school....another day lost.
dean
md -

right, i don't have a problem with veggies or owt like that, my sister is part of all that...its just the vegan animal activists i have a problem with, they try and force their ideas into peoples heads...and b4 you say owt about that go to manchester city centre on a saturday and then comment about the menks picketing the butchers and other people who are trying to make a bleedin liveing!!
graham, i used to live on a farm...

god i've had enuff...like i said NO ONE CAN HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS SITE!!!.....sorry i'm just a bit fucked off at the moment. one of my friends has just been taken in to hospital, so i apologise for my outburst then...speak to you all later love you all.
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Bronagh: Yeah I know what you mean about jokes like that, I get it from my flatmates all the time. At least they are actually taking my points seriuosly now that it's all in the news. I don't really think that all livestock breeding should stop, I would just like to see a decrease in intensive rearing and a ban on live animal transportation.
Graham Hopper <hopper@ramsey.uk.com>
Nottingham, UK -

Hi Graham!!!
Just thinking about what you were saying about not criticising people over eating meat. Neither do I, but everytime somebody (who eats meat) finds out I'm a vegetarian, they start defending themselves and waving burgers (and the like!) in my face, even though I haven't said a thing!
I think deep down people who do that feel guilty about it, which is why they get on the defense so quickly.
As for the foot and mouth thing, I do think it's another sort of sign to stop breeding livestock!
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

hi Graham :o)
natalie
yonkers, ny -

Hi me! Wow lots of friendly people here :) Yeah Malcolm I still got that tape, I'm home this weekend for the Deftones show (yay!) so I'll pick the tape up then and work on converting it to CD...
Graham Hopper <hopper@ramsey.uk.com>
Nottingham, UK -

graham ~ hi!!

hahahahaha, a very well fed durst at that!
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Hey Graham. Everyone say Hi Graham! Still got that HWP tape?Goooooood.....
Metal Malcolm
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Fed Durst will be doing a chat on yahoo(http://chat.yahoo.com/c/events/info/2001/03/19/031901durst.html), it will be @ 8pm(pst) on today...march 20th. Check it out, late.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Wow my first post on here :) Just reading the posts below about foot and mouth - I'm a veggie and I thought 'Jen Jen's comment about it being bollox as quite ignorant. I don't criticise people for eating meat, and many of my relatives are farmers, I just think that this crisis has shown how the intensification of farming methods for the big bucks is in the end far more damaging to people and the environment. It's just like the BSE thing all over again, yet this time their ain't a government cover up. Anyway, on a less political note I'd just like to say "hi" to everyone and pass my time by doing something that isn't coursework... :)
Graham Hopper <hopper@ramsey.uk.com>
Nottingham, UK -

the chicken head thing was in the paper over here, i cut it out and put it on the staff notice board and wrote "STAFF DINNER" underneath, hehehhehehehehehe!!! i agree with malcolm no one does care about anything but money anymore, and that pisses me off

the only other thing that pisses me off are mongs that come to england seeking political asylum...i was stopped on my home yesterday by some woman asking me for money (i didn't give her owt) because right, they come over here get asylum, get a house, �300 a week, a mobile phone, their bills paid etc.. why do the government need to do that for them when theres plenty of homeless and other people that need all that WHY?????
jen jen
manchester, uk -

so what is the alternative? showing little or no emotion over the music we love? if we really, truly dont care about what other people think then why should we care if someone is going to be blind enough to view music in such a negative way?
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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"This is the reason why they think music is so influential".. No I do not think it was the effect of music. But I was trying to get across that the reason why the media and some people believe that music influences crimes.... Is because they think we are ignorant enough to be effected easy by what people say.. and if we blow up over if a band sucks or not and start shouting obscene comments, then we are proving them right. Yes, I think music effects people somewhat, but bands such as marilyn manson, slipknot, or NWA people do not take their lyrics all that serious cause we see its mainly for show, but people such as KRS-ONE, nirvana, or rancid.. we seem to take more serious since we see that they mean what they say.. so we are influenced by what they say. We see it kind of in a whole new level. I'm not saying the other bands aren't serious about music, but what they don't exactly mean they are going out and killing someone. If someone does get influenced by such things, they need help to begin with. I hope now you understand what I mean. With Respect,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

The head?! YUCK! Oh how I love being a vegetarian. *kissies the Linda McCartney frozen foods in the freezer*
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

Hmm...the only effect that Slipknot guy had on me was to make me laugh, and feel sorry for Slipknot, I'm pure they're nice guys. I doubt it really got to anyone here, nobody here is that immature to fight with somebody who is obviously pig-ignorant.
I don't believe those school shootings are a result of listening to music, do you? I know I've listened to a lot of different kinds of music, and it's never encouraged me to go insane and start killing people.
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

I haven't been to the board in a while.. and thank you Aimee for ending that slipknot rant./// Actually I think it is time to address the issue of how people were acting about just a band.. It is only a band and if you don't like them, don't be shouting it out and saying "fuck everyone!". This is the reason why they think music is so influential and can cause people to do stupid things, such as all the school shootings. Their are many other things to focus on, other than who's bad ass or who isn't. This is theSTARTs' board and I think we should respect it. So, if someone comes up on here again and shouts that a band sucks or anything. Lets just no let it get to us and ignore it. With my upmost Respect,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Fiona - Foot and Mouth doesn't kill the animals at all. It's no worse than the flu is for humans. The only reason they're killing the animals is money. After they recover, they don't produce milk or flesh at the same rate as before, so The farmers kill them. That just shows how bad things have got. No one cares about anything but money any more.
Metal Malcolm
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am i the only person who would have kept it and fashioned into a necklace of some sort? it wouldn't go bad for a little while, especially if i kept it in the freezer at night.

a friend of mine had a strikingly wonderful notion. when depeche mode launch their tour for their new album "exiter" in june theSTART should open for them. i mean, stabbing westward opened for them last time so why the hell not? the only problem i see is that dm goes to europe when the warped tour dates would be in effect.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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i had been a struggling vegetarian until that lady found the head in her mcdonald's. i'd been to a ghetto mcdonald's that day and had only gotten fries, but it was enough of a shock to keep me from eating any form of meat ever since. it's probably easy for people to eat something totally unidentifiable, but to quote elastica, 'it's hard to make a stew when the meat keeps looking up at you.'
stefanie
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Visit http://www.indigoflow.co.uk and sign up for IF E-zine. It's damn good.
Andy <andymalt@hotmail.com>
Basingstoke, UK -

I thought that Foot & Mouth kills the animal after a few weeks... so if they just left it be, all the livestock in the UK would be dead anyway. Don't know whether i agree with them killing the animals that are healthy but are just within the travelling distance of the disease... Fx
Fiona
London, UK -

True, very true. But can you imagine her shock when she saw that head in her deep fried McTesticles? It probably has caused her a few sleepless nights. But is that a big enough reason to sue? I hate the way that people Sue if things don't go exactly how they want. It's stupid. If that's the case, I could sue several women for the horrendous crime of "Not Dating Me".Then they could sue me for the horror caused by their guilt over not dating me and so on and so on...The legal proffesion wins every time.
And if she really stopped to think about what goes in her "Chicken" Nuggets, who knows, maybe she would prefer the head.......

Some one else add the innuendo there, I really can't be bothered.....
Metal Malcolm
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in west virginia recently, a woman found a fried chicken head in her mcnuggets that she purchased from mcdonalds. the head, which was apparently fully intact and recognizable (eyesockets and all), has led to quite the little tift over in that area. the woman is considering pressing charges against mcdonalds, claiming that she has "had many sleepless nights" since the incident, in which she was reportedly feeding her kids the nuggets when the severed, battered, and golden-fried head made its suprise entrance. a spokesman for the US department of health in west virgina, whom the woman contacted, says that the most she can get out of the case she could file is "a couple of thousand". the woman's attourney claims otherwise, stating that such an event could cause a very intense psychological trauma, which he alleges his client is suffering through. ok, now...if you were a mcdonalds clerk or manager on the day that this incident occured, how would yu respond to such an utterly insane complaint? "uh...yessir, i uh...i have a comment...about the chicken nuggets..." and how would you reacct if you were the presiding judge, under which this pending case may fall? what do you DO in a situation like this? how can any of these people MAINTAIN?! have we removed ourselves THAT far from the food we eat? in some...MOST of the poultry-enthusiastic nations in this crazy world, its not only commonplace to have a head of some kind of bird, fish, or even swine on our plates, but even disrespectful to the host or establishment if that head is spurned and wasted. what, my friends, have we come to?
kt
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Did I miss something???? What contest?? Awww this sucks I feel so....un*informed.
Lindsay <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

we shouldn't be raising animals for slaughter anyway, it's just wrong.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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want to talk freely
pipi <brocatello@yahoo.com>
Varna, Bulgaria -

scape-music.de everyone must go there and listen to the audio its absolutely amzing, and quite odd...its like a whole different world. es GREAT!!
dean
md -

genetically modified organisms and food and stuff...i never really saw the problem with GM stuff, we've all been eating it for years and then theres a big problem somewhere down the line and we don't wanna eat it anymore...its all bollox, its never done us any harm! its like all the foot and mouth stuff going around the uk, (theres about 300 cases now) and everyones killing cattle, why? they get better after a few weeks, its just a animal activists way of telling us to eat the crap they do, bloody vegans!!!!!!!

thats my view anyway! love you all tttuuuurrrraaaa!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I know this subject is old, but I just had to get my two cents in. It seems to be more of America's youth are really angry and most don't know how to express it. So alot of them hear alot of so-called angry music, which explains why alot of bands are doing so good in the mainstream. But just because a person is a angry doesn't give a right to be a jerk. What ever happened to the days were you could talk with a someone (who had a different view than you) peacefully. Now when ever you get in an debate with one of these angry young people , as soon as you out smart them or say something that they can't response to...they start with the needless cursing and the " I'm going to kick your ass". I think people need to mellow out. I think if people put down their guns and fists and fought back vocally, then America wouldn't be the shit hole that it is now. -Professor White
Professor White <DIGITAL_BOY_7478@HOTMAIL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

Echo ~ great topic :o) ... but i wouldn't know where to begin!
natalie
yonkers, ny -

Legions! Contest compiling continues....validating veracity of emails....will welcome winner(s) within the week....(its close Dean.. very very close..) please stand by....(as for pics ..identity remains classified) ~human
human <human@thisisthestart.com>
LA, -

has anyone ever read a Crackup at the Race Riots? this man is completely insane. and i know that i use that word rather loosely, but hey, i know SOMEbody out there's seen KIDS or GUMMO. hey malc, a toke for my detoxing ass, pleeaaase.
kt
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aimee, im sorry, im really, really sorry, but y'know? there are kids running around who, quite frankly, dont need to be running around. i just get a little peaved when, in the midst of tranquility, someone pops up and spews forth an unwavering stream of pure bullshit. if this is in person, i always figure i ought to get heavy with the bastards...LEAN on those fuckers...but hey, i guess that makes me a hypocrite, but seriously, who would any of you rather have around. bioengineered acne-instigating bugs are the least of my worries...but the thought of an airborne case of the spaceclap is the kind of thing that wakes me up in the middle of the night, screaming and ranting, half-crazy, and fumbling with a bottle of lysol disinfectant. im feeling very anti-existential right now. very disenchanted with EVERYthing. except my job, of course. i'll always have the video store.
kt
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Puke - So true, so true. But hey, you're not gonna live forever, just enjoy the time you have here..
Echo - Just a thought. Wouldn't it be great if acne was caused by being a complete asshole? You could know to avoid someone straight away.
Sorry everyone. I've been up for 36 hours straight. I'm really stoned, and there are two people sleeping on my bed.

Ngh. :(
Metal Malcolm
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i agree with miss echo...why hurt each other when we can all spread love....love ya aimee. -paige's & jaime's love slave!
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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Love HWP and LOVE The Start too!!! Get yourselves over to the UK soon! Oh and look out for Sugar Coma in the US later this year!!! Love to all The Start! MmmmmWAAH!
Claire (Sugar Coma) <claire@sugarcomaonline.com>
London, ENGLAND -

if you can grow an ear on the back of a mouse and then surgically implant it onto an ear loss victim, why cant we grow a set of lungs on the back of a walrus or something and then give me a lung transplant after mine are too coated with resin to function any longer? plus, while in the lab, you could conceivably make stronger lungs through genetic tampering so your next transplant wont be for another 80 years. this is how we will live forever. wait a minute ... strike that. this is how rich people will live forever.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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...anyone know abything about the contest? who won?
dean
md -

OH please, I beg of you all, no more rants about that Slipknot fan! even if they are amusing and intelligently crafted. Oh god,I'm feeling verklempt. Excuse me... I'll give you a topic, Genetically Modified Organisms causing rampant acne in adults...discuss
echo
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new Staind CD due out MAY 15th
HCW
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oh yeah...I agree w/Malcom about Human putting a pic up.
natalie
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Does anyone know when the new staind cd comes out? im really looking foward to it
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
yonkers, ny -

Please excuse some of the people that jump on the board and threaten you, they are just lonely, angry, can't spell, and need a hug. I too would be angry if it took me three hours to write that. (Momma got me a computer and an msn account to learn how to read and write!), but NOOOOO, he's got to rush right in and be the Lord of Hatred? (Well, we all need to be the Lord of something, I guess?.) He will kill you if you talk shit on his favorite band. So here we go. If you knew how to read, you would realize nobody's talking shit on your boys you fucking idiot! And tommarow when you go to school to kill the guy that made fun of your Tazmanian Devil/Bad Boy Club tattoo, don't forget to turn the gun on yourself when you finish!
Lord ofJoe Long
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excuse some of the spelling, but=buy...
dean
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as for the whole slipknot thing....i liked em, but not nearly as much as i used to, they just got way too...HUGE, way too fast..People make them out to be alot better than they are.. The bigger reason why i dont like them is because of their fans, Slipknot fans seem to think theyre ridiculously hardcore.....Well they arent, given that yes, slipknot can be a bit "violent" it doesnt make you (if youre a fan)scary...im sorry, the whole mask novelty never worked anyway. And now we have the cheap imitation band that are starting up. And still all you "hardcore", i hate the world types but into it....Im not seeing where im getting at this, but slipknot aint(hehe) that great.
dean
md -

i love staind! theyre my favorite band...aaron lewis is god
dean
md -

I hear all this hype about slipknot shows and it just confuses me, You hear the music it a little different, interesting, you see the band they make you laugh, better still, you go to the live show where the pits are meant to be crazy, and stand stock still three rows from the front bored, while at the back there's a wild pit! The hypes ruined the atmosphere, the people who would normally be up the front are at the back and those of us who just like to watch a stage show are at the front!! Role reversal? suits me! i actually got to SEE!!! oh well maybe the slipknot fans are just scared of the band?! love ya all Alexa
Alexa
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it's ok, lorie...it's oooookkkk...these are the kind of children i mug on occasion at concerts and shit. those bent little junior high fuckers with all the attitude and the slipknot t shirts...i wonder if the band even knows that the mindset they instill in their fans gets the shit beat out of them on a regular basis; im not a violent person, per se, by nature, but some things, some PEOPLE just warrant the baseball bat making a suprise appearance. if this kid wasnt on the internet, do you think he'd respond the same if you walked up to him while he was grooving in hot topic and said, to his acne flushed little face, that slipknot did indeed suck? or do you think he's just appreciating the anonymity of the internet. what if, mr. long, i were to tell you that i too lived in pittsburgh and that i'd like to meet with you and discuss these little death threats youve been tossing around so flagrantly? im sorry, folks, but chumps like this just...GET to me. difficult to MAINTAIN.....HA!
kt
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To that idiot who was saying shit and that Slipknot "rules" and that fuck us all and what not, well you know what? FUCK YOU,too!!! I say someone can't spell either. This is theSTART's message board and why the fuck did you come in here and start writing shit about Slipknot? You know what? Take your Slipknot shit and shove it up your fucking ass okay? Ooohhh I'm scared that all the Slipknot "fans" are going to kill me... I should be scared since they're all wearing jumpsuits and hockey mask. Anyways, I just wanted to respond to that message and I apologize to my fellow Heretics for posting this little bad note.
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

Oooooh, benefit show, AND an explanation of why the Melon is there! Couldn't ask for more!

Just a couple of things. I just realised there are NO photo's of Human?Come on! Show us your face!! and also, looking at the Roxy show pics, has Scott got a new haircut? Just curious....
MetalMalcolm
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I like Staind alot they are a solid band with good songs-- as for mr. lard of hated/joe long he's a funny guy in a sad way-he actually takes himself that serious- it made me laugh! He is a parody of a Slipknot fan hahahahahaha
LordManHammer
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YOU know what? LORD of HATRED....oooohhh....that's sooooooo intimidating...A) slipknot is riding a gimmick, not their music; NOBODY can deny this. if they could lose the goofy outfits and perform one show, just ONE show, or do just ONE magazine cover without that gimmick, i'd say nothing more. B)9 members? 9 members!?!? ministry, for instance, could kick slipknot's ass with only...get this, lord of hatred, TWO members in the band. TWO MEMBERS. C)the attitude has got to change buddy...slipknot thinks just as much about you as they probably think about everybody else. i've seen that band, for the sake of openers, 3 times. all three times we were commanded by their dipshit lead singer to 'sit the fuck down' and 'shut the fuck up'. goddammit, i paid 30 bucks to come and see YOU play, you twisted goofy fuckers, now why dont YOU sit down if you want. shit. so much frontin', no follow through whatsoever. slipknot's clown accidently headbutts his drum and suddenly their nightly activities are full of blood and gore. i'd have to say, i got more thrills seeing gwar the last time around. if you're going to wear costumes, wear some COOL ones at least, and if you're going to front like youre the most EEEVIL band on earth, gimme something that would lead me to believe that, no gimmicks, please. it's like cockrock all over again...
kt
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Does anyone like STAIND?-LET me know what you think please. thanks.
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daniel - ey up, oldham is just up road from me! i was at ozzfest too!! why have yo never posted b4? you sound cool (cos your northen) no offence to any one who isn't!
lord of whatever it was - i kinda like slipknot so you can shut it!, and do you kiss your mother with that mouth? there really is no need for all that is there!
thats the problem with this place no-one can have an opinion on other bands...thats just what i've noticed anyway!

malcolm, i'm gonna phone you later! be in or i'll kill you!
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

uh.. yeah Tara... whats up, I'm gonna need my Finger 11 CD ( left it in yer car), my MSI CD and my Orgy Remixes... i only have one of yer CD's and u have 3 of mine.. give me a call sometime?!?! sounds good.. as for lindsay... you swear on a bottle of fantastik that you don't love miller? what about little bunny foo foo?!?! HE LOVES MEEEE xoxox, sara
Sara Pinky <smeeba@hotmail.com>
the Hills, CA -

the STAIND street team @ streetwise is now in full effect, so sign up quickly @ http://members.bestreetwise.com/join.html/// Also Alien Ant Farm are playing a show with the color red in riverside soon, so if you want info.. email me and I'll tell you where its at. Late.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

music has changed...but it evolves. the fans are sometime the ones who destroy the music...not the band themselfs..as long as they stay true to themself that is what matters. i wish amir the best....get well soon! -(paige's & jaime's love slave!)
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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you know what? i like slipknot. i've also seen them twice. and it was great, the pit was crazy! they are nice guys too. yes i met them, and they had no masks on and another time with their masks on. but i too have heard what puke has and it seems to be true in some cases.
i am reminded now of how i've been told gurls shouldn't listen to heavy music. hahaha. funny isn't it? it's also funny when you've attended a show for 800 people and outta that 800, about 50 of them are gurls. it's does happen...it's happened to me a few times.
-amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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The thing I find funny is that I actually like Slipknot, I really think they are a pretty classy band, It's just that their fans can occasionally be a little pathetic

Tell ya what buddy, You learn to spell, and maybe we'll even let you hear their first album? How does that sound? You like that shnookums?...jeez some people...
Metal Malcolm
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Someone stopped liking Deftones because they said Chino is fat?! You have got to be kidding...I guess they weren't a very good fan to begin with...
RiCki
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EEEEE I come back to see what's up and I see nothing but hate? Whatever happened to love and tolerance? SlipKnot says, "Don't ever judge me" So why sir, are you judging us? Just a thought...
RiCKi <someotherstar@hotmail.com>
tomballian, tx -

that's the worst reason for not liking a band that i've ever heard. actually, i take that back. someone told me once that they dont like the deftones anymore because chino is fat. THAT is the worst reason.
~puke~
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P.S.- Weren't there a few members of Slipknot at the Roxy show? Lord of hatred is now known as the lord of dumbasses.
Alex
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And we wonder why people like Fred Durst stay where they are. The idiot who posted below liked Limp Bizkit when their first CD came out, but now they suck cause Slipknot say so. That is the reason I no longer care for Slipknot...their moron fans ruin the shows.
Alex Brothman <Medosa@home.com>
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many people have remarked on how brainless slipknot's fans seem to be. i think the reason for this is the mask thing. when you're in a band and wear only masks and long sleeve jump suits nobody can see what you look like. this immediately eliminates all those 14-year-old girls who like certain bands mainly because "[the lead singer] is so hot!" or "i have erotic dreams about [the guitarist]." leaving only the male population who would rather look at a mask than some pretty boy, and metal heads. but i've learned to live with it.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Hey everyone was up?........ I know what..... YOU ALL FUCKIN SUCK....SLIPKNOT FUCKIN RULES AND THERES NO DOUBT ABOUT IT........FUCK AL OF YOU.......WE ARE SLIPKNOT FANS......FUCK WITH US OR SLIPKNOT AND WE WILL FUCKIN KILL YOU........ GOT IT? FUCK YOU ALL
Loard of Hatred <buzum@msn.com>
Pittsburgh, Pa USA -

Hey guss what........ fuck you slipknot fuckin rules.......no doubt about it............. u fuckin suck............ i all slipknot fans will murder you......so suck my cock
Joe Long <buzum@msn.com>
Pittsburgh, Pa Usa -

ya know whats strange? life. its just so bizarre. for the longest time everything was routine. then over the span of ONE WEEK everything and i do mean everything changes on you. im in a new college, i got my old job back and i broke up with my bf of one and half years. so i havent slept and im way too tired to even eat. and yet today i get to go to toys r us to get the simpsons trivia game that my friend wants oh-so-much. i hope all goes well at that benefit show. lots of luck and have the best of fun!
natalie
ny -

I took pictures at the Roxy show! I have about 6 good ones I think. I'm just way too lazy to scan them all. But I swear I will, soon.....
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

Did anyone take pics at the Roxy show? If so, please write me a mail.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

theSTART rocks..........and to everyone in the band ilove you!!!!!! -erika(paige's & jaime's love slave!)
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
USA -

"I have a problem. I am a cannibal."---Stanley Baker. what humility...
kt
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The slow song on the CD WAS 'Flying Machine'!!! That's my favorite, too!!!! Oh well. I <3 you Sara. Noooo I don't like MILLER. Mr Clean can suck on a Pine*sol bottle for all I care.
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

Hey Pinky, I need my copy of theSTART CD back for work please...haha. NEwayz...lil miss sara, Sw1tchED will be here thursday..Chimaira on Friday/Saturday..time for some Cave-Man love..hahaha give me a call please!!!! TTFN!
Satan's Wizard <satana6669@aol.com>
Hollywierd, CA USA -

...Zao rocked the house sunday. Cant wait to see you guys Aug 1 im sure its gonna rawk!
dean
md -

Hey although TheStart is doing the East Coast part of the Warped tour, Why are they NOT listed to be in BOSTON on AUG 9TH!!!! Somebody please answer me!!!! Thank you
Noel <xsaigon666x@aol.com>
Salem, Massachusetts USA -

"i walk wherever the weather provides, cause everybody needs some time outside"...oh...my GOD the new CLUTCH fucking rules my world. WONT YOU OPEN UP THE BORDAH...TWO RIVAHS RUNNING GREEN...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Ey up! Nowt wrong wit Northerners, like! Oldham born and bred 'ere :) Living in the west country, Loike. *waves to Jen* Ey up! Saw HWP at the last UK Ozzfest, Such a shame they became silence. But still, The Start are rather neato, so Woo! :) Long live Northerners! Daniel. :)
Daniel <dmills@elimhq.com>
Engrrrrland -

If you don't know already... confirmed for the coachella festival: Janes Addiction!!!,WEEZER,FatboySlim,Mos Def, Richard D. James(of APEX TWINS), iggy pop, dandy warhols, chemical brothers,the Roots, The Ord, Ozomatli, etc... For more groups, check out coachella.com.// And anyone know if El Destroyos' singer is Violent Femmes lead vox??? Let me know,cause they're playing w/ theSTART and I've never seen Violent Femmes live. See you people @ the GALAXY, peace.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA 92801 -

Puke: By the time you have read this, I will have sen t the song to what I think is your address. I am not too sober at the moment, so that may not be the correct address. If You do not recieve thesong, mail mewith your addy, and you shall have it by themorn.It's not THAT great...
Jen: I understood you! ;o)
Foranyone else ( who ever you may be) I'm fine, I just hit a rough patch this afternoon due to stress and the odd phone call. I'm okay, I think.

Who knows. Can anyone draw me a chart? Sorry.....
Metal Malcolm <pmyumrc@nottingham.ac.uk>
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P.S.- For all the LA kids, the Placebo show tickets go on sale this Saturday, according to the KROQ site (where I found the info) No where else even has it posted....not even ticketmaster's site.....hmmmmmm!!!!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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If Jacinda were any more correct, I would marry her. Damn, it took them long enough to come over. Well, at least they ARE coming over here. There are some bands that I would love to see, but never make it over the big ocean. Go to the Placebo show, Jacinda, even if you do miss the river rave....all I have heard who's playing is Manson, and he is lame-o now. I also got BMM for Christmas! OOOOOOO! We're cool now!
Alex
Tustin, CA USA -

I was going to go to the WBCN River Rave and found out that the Placebo show there is the same night as the RR. so...i think i'm going to go to the placebo show in Philly and then RR the next day tee hee. anyone doing the same? it's about time placebo came here, i mean, black market music has been out for months in the uk and it's killing me. i was lucky enough to get it as an xmas present from a friend!:) it's a WONDERFUL album.
Jacinda <CChamber77@aol.com>
Near Dallas, TX USA -

What are you talking about, Pinky??? Linds is in love with all the members....especially Jason. LOL but anyways, PLACEBO IS PLAYING IN MAY???????????? How come I am never informed of these things???? well, I'm definitely going!!! You want to go, Pinky? xxoo
*A*M*A*N*D*A* <turasatana666@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

OMG linds.. you are the best.. can I just tell you? OWWW... oh we have to go see theSTART when they play... and you have to go with us for gODHEAD.. even though you dun like certain members of that band... oh well.. I LOVE YOU and as for the songs that didn't make the album, I dun know the song titles on my version of the Circles CD ( Be jealous.. i have an original CD copy) but that last song ( the slow one or whatever) is my favorite song... i hope it made it, and what ever happened to the Jay Gordon song... is it still on there? xoxox, sara
Sara Pinky <smeeba@hotmail.com>
the hills, CA USA -

malcolm ~ please send send send!! do you know where it was recorded by chance?
~sir puke~
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i agree with jen jen.....the best things are on 'b tracks'....but all the othere work is loved as much also....i cant wait to see theSTART again.... love ya jaime!
erika(paige's & jaime's love slave!) <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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malcolm, i can't go on the motorway with it, its a bloody moped! it goes about 50mph! but i'll visit sooon, maybe, sometime, you cud come up here and i'll go back wiv you...maybe not then
Jamie - cheers love! the b-sides on most released stuff are the usually better than the remixes! i mixed one of your songs t'other day, it was quite good i was impressed wiv mesen!

sorry if that didn't make anysense i went into manchester dialect!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

i can't wait to see theSTART again...i love theSTART....i have one request...please play 'be mine'...even though it's going to be on 'b tracks'.....please. -erika(paige's & jaime's love slave!)
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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Anyone goin to the Placebo show at the Palace on May15? I seriously cannot wait for this show.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

Thanks Jamie!
natalie
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thanks for clearing that up jamie!! hope to see you guys down here soon :)
laura <fable@writeme.com>
oz -

Oh nooooooo. I really loved 'Be Mine' and 'Flying Machine'. oh well. Good thing I at least have them on Napster :) I hope you will still perform 'Be Mine' though!!!! That's just the cutest song!
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

sin original, be mine, make it through, flying machine are being held for b-sides and such
jamie
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So wait...flying machine isnt on shakedown what happened to the sin original?
natalie
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Well, I may be the only stupid one here, but the East Coast dates for the Warped Tour are on the Feel page! I did not even think to look!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

JEN! VISIT! DRIVE! YAY!
Metal Malcolm
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oh my god! i spent �2000 today...on my new mode of transport! i sold my car (crappy vauxhall nova) and bought a vespa!!!! YEY!! its great..its black and its small (like me) and its sooo cute, you could just see me on a scooter shouting CIAO at everyone!

why isn't flying machine on shakedown? and whens the video being released to MTV and MTV2?
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Hey Puke. I actually have one of the Tapeworm songs on MP3 from the net. APC played it live and some guy recorded it. Trent isn't too happy. Also John Stanier from Helmet did drums on the last Pitchshifter LP and is supposedly drumming for Phil Anselmo's new side project. Any good? I could send you the Tapeworm song if you want. See y'all
Metal Malcolm
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i hate this. i hate this so much. everything in me says i shouldnt like this music. i like hardcore. i like nu-metal (to give it it's trendy name). to a certain extent i like punk. but... argh! it's so happy yet i cant stop listening to it!!! well done, you've converted one of the most hardened metal fans in the UK :)
MENTAL <disk_disaster@hotmail.com>
England -

awwwww, get big soon so you'll play in the UK :'( MENTAL
MENTAL <disk_disaster@hotmail.com>
England -

oh yes, kt ~ page hamilton is rumored to be a contributing force to the infamous "tapeworm" project. tapeworm was conceptualized a long-ass time ago by mr. reznor and his cohorts (danny and charlie) and already has contributions from maynard and phil anselmo. the idea is to have the nin boys do the music but not have trent sing. supposedly it will be released some time this year. and helmet's drummer is in another band ... i dont remember the name
~me again~
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does anyone remember that old post... we were talking about the end of the world and i had said that the world would end (if the end of the world was to occur at the turn of the millenium) on the 31st of march 2001? and now theSTART are playing that night at the troubadour in hollywood. coincidence? probably. but if the world does end that day and i bump into any of you on the spirit plane, you're in for a big "i told you so."
~puke~
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Hey,Kidneytheif? Have one for me. I got pretty gone last night with a few friends, and that's me off anything till easter. Enjoy ;o)
Just been listening to the Demo again. I know i'm on here all the time, but I'd almost forgotten how good the songs are. It's a real shame that Flying Machine isn't gonna be on Shakedown!. Pleeeeeeeeeeeease make it a B-side! I can't wait to see you guys play. It's gonna be like all my christmases come at once.

That's all
Metal Malcolm
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there is the most amazing place here out in bumfuck...a little independant grocery store called the IGA. so much drug trafficking goes on in the place that it actually IS funny. at least 10 transactions a night. looking for something of the herbal persuasion? not a problem, friend, just follow that stockboy with the mop back into the deli freezer and he can satiate your craving. acid? ha! just stroll on over to the produce boy and pick your poison. always, always, though, make sure you purchase something of even the cheapest order---the management has no idea that it goes on, and a sudden slew of customers, walking in and out without actually PURCHASING anything would make for some suspicious activity...alcohol? here is where you are rendered utterly shit out of luck. hays county is dry; no booze sold for a 45 minute drive in any direction. maybe this is why the illegal drug market is so accessible in a small town grocery store. its an amazing prospect though: you might as well pick up that 10 sack and a decent strip along with that 6 pack of diet pepsi in order to better enjoy your weekend. i'm on my way to pick up some tomatoes here in a little bit. i suspect i will see you all soon. selah.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Two Dates in Three Days? That's practically a tour guys! When can you bring it here?;o)

(I'm sure you're annoyed of us Brit fans constantly saying that, but hey, we wanna see you!!!)
Metal Malcolm
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HI everyone.....i just wanted to know if someone could let me know of something?Im not clear as to if theSTART are playing any Warped dates on the westcoast or not.Im thinking not but i wanted to be sure.Thanks a bunch!
Bryce <shesafraidofclowns@hotmail.com>
sacramento, ca -

i still miss helmet. i miss them a whole lot.
kt
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Oh yeah...CHARLES thanks alot for all of the information!
natalie
ny -

Puke, i guess we're concentrating on the warped tour cos its the only thing we have dates for as of now...i dunno. don't get me wrong im lookin foward to any and all dates i get to see theSTART. But tomorrow i get to see a global threat! woo hoo!
natalie
ny -

well i don't wanna know anymore dates for when i can't go and see theSTART, its sooo not fair that you guys get to go to shows so often!

Aimee, Jamie, Jeff and Scott COME TO THE UK SOON!!! oki thanx...bye!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

confirmed for warped tour: Rancid, the Bouncing Souls, AFI(not totally confirmed), crazy town(a couple dates), and more to come/// And I will see you all @ the Galaxy show. With Respect,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

HELLLL YEAAAAAAH!!!!! GALAXY!!!!!! WOO HOO! This is gonna be my second time seeing you guys there, but last time, you were Hero! Man, I remember Mike signed something of mine and it said Hero on it.....what a collector's item! lol. Anywho, a very huge thank you from all of us here in OC who did not make it to the Roxy show. -Alex
ALEX!!!! <Medosa@home.com>
TUSTIN, CA USA -

*dances* YAY March 31st!!! Damn, I wish I had a car now and my license to go out to the Galaxy to go see them... Who saw them their back in August '99 when they were known as Hero??? Anyways, I am very happy now that there's more shows to go to for the next coming months...
Fubbie <Fubbie999@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

this just in ~ HELL YES!!!

why is everyone concentrating on the warped tour? according to hcw they're playing some west coast dates then the rest of the country in may and then the warped tour. you all just like vans a lot or what?
~sir puke~
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This just in ... See theSTART live @The Galaxy Theatre in Santa Ana, CA Thursday March 29th and @The Troubadour in Los Angeles, CA Saturday March 31st. More dates to follow.................
the H>C>watermelon
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I think I speak for every person from CA on this board. I think theSTART should try to play the Anaheim date of the Warped Tour! YEAH! Since you guys are already gonna be on it, you should try to play that one to......warm up! YEAH! Now that would be cool!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

AND another thing, why isnt the jack off jill site working?
dean
md -

who won the contest? i tried my hardest.
dean
md -

ok. august 1st is so FAR away....:( , butte later than never i guess.
dean
md -

Ok so we got warped dates (much thanks!) now does anyone have any ideas who is playing? i *heard* 311 is gonna be there. i wanna see h2o again :o)
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
YOnkers, NY -

www.aaapunkrock.com/warped_tour_2001.htm
s
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dates won't be up till about a month or so for warped tour.. but if you want to, go to ticketmaster.com and they may have dates that are already confirmed. I work for VANS , so I'll try to get info if I can. With Respect,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Wow. Never new this existed. I used to love HWP. Where can I buy the demo from? Anyone want to trade or sell me a copy? Please!!!!!!!!!! email me if yu can help (jason_hearne@hotmail.com)
Jay <jason_hearne@hotmail.com>
Manchester, Lancashire England -

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
dean
md -

hey everybody :::::waves::::: the same thing crissy said goes for me too.... i can't find any dates for the east coast section of the warped tour..so if anybody has info please be kind and share :) i'll love ya for it...okee now that i probably frightened all of you i'll go now adios
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
CT merica -

so it's prolly just me but every time i go to warpedtour.com or anywhere else that says they have dates, i get last years..could someone pleeeease be my friend and email me the east coast dates or sumfthin. thank you i love you mean it bye!!!!!! ~C.
crissy <candyazs@aol.com>
Ct usa -

Are The Start Gonna play any UK Festivals this year As I love to see them live I've heard the demos & loved them, so I think They should play Reading Festival or V2001 as there were I'm going this year. PLEASE PLAY THE UK!!!!!!!!
Heather <seren_du@btinternet.com>
N. Wales UK -

i'm back!!!! are you scared yet?? i haven't posted for a few days cos i've been drowned by coursework for uni :o( why do they always give you loads of work at once? i can't handle the pressure...i've done one assigment, only 2 to go and there bloody crap ones as well!!

so theSTART are playing festivals now, whats the big problem with that? i never really classed HWP as metal and they played at the ozzfest, does it matter, they need all the publicity they can, let them do what the hell they want!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

June 5th is a day i cant w8 for. I need to see theSTART so either get the warped tour over to England or tour hear anyway, Alot of us are from England anyway.FUCKING OZZFEST U.K CLASHING WITH MY G.C.S.Es alot of tickets will not be bought because of this CHANGE THE DATE.mwa mwa love and kisses gotta go to school
moistmuffdiver
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Where'd everyone go these last few days? Or have I just been at the screen to much?
Metal Malcolm
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i cant friggin believe start is playin warped AND comin to ny...its a dream come true....any other start fans in ny/nj email me so we can make plans for a hostile takeover of the festivities......and shameless promotion of our aimee(my love)
nancy <spit2shine@aol.com>
ny -

i wish theSTART the best in there up comming tour...the only thing i wish of the band is that...please don't forget la...like most bands do....i love you all with every single piece of my heart and only wish the best....love & respect.... bye!
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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for info on the warped tour checkout vans.com or warpedtour.com// And I think the warped tour fits theSTART perfectly. Maybe they should get on the next family values(if their will be one). Just a little of thought. Late. With Respect,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Could someone from the band tell us when the dates of that lil tour in April are scheduled to be happening? Spring break, for a lot of us, comes right in there, and that would be pretty awesome if we could go to like, 5 shows on 5 days. Just a thought...shows on spring break=tons of fans at each show. oh la la!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

does anyone appreciate my little things? hehe the little things...Anyone like good charlotte....i sure dont..Little what?
dean
md -

OH WHERE IS MY HAIRBRUSH! OH WHERE IS MY HAIRBRUSH! OH WHERE OH WHERE OH WHERE OH WHERE......Is my hairbrush?-larry the cucumber
dean
md -

Why is it that every time I try to make a fresh start of things, something tries to screw things up? Not this time dammit. I really am getting sick of this place. At least I go home in three weeks. I'm actually looking forward to it....
Metal Malcolm
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hey puke u put a thingy on the (hed)pe bulletin board didn't ya? cool do u like em and have u seen those mad muthaf**kas? Get the album out soon but give me a week or twos notice so I can save for gettin it on da release date. DONT have that out in america L8er in the year for the U.K or I'll be well MAD!!! love and kisses every1 keep postin stuff mwa
moistmuffdiver
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isn't aaf doing warped too
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LET ME KNOW INFO, NEWS, TOUR DATES, ANTHING ON OR ABOUT THE START
JASON ROOK <KOOR@3RDDOOR.COM>
Ronoke Rapids, nc. USA -

LET ME KNOW INFO, NEWS, TOUR DATES, ANTHINGON OR ABOUT THE START
JASON ROOK <KOOR@3RDDOOR.COM>
Ronoke Rapids, nc. USA -

LET ME KNOW ANTHING.....
JASON ROOK <KOOR@3RDDOOR.COM>
Ronoke Rapids, nc. USA -

pokemon is an elaborate japanese plot to take over the world.
kt
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theSTART doing WaRpeD! Yaaaay!!!!! tre cool. i am definatly excited. i actually wasn't going to go this year but i guess ill get tix for the Randalls island and the Jerzee show. This news is definatly going to help me get through this storm that is starting now (sunday) and wont stop raining & snowing till sometime tuesday. woo hoo. i love you guys!
Natalie
New York! -

malcolm, yeah i remember martin he was the one with the cool pokemon watch!! pokemon still kicks ass!!!
so...june isn't that far off, i can wait for it, i'll get it of my parents as a late bertday prezzie, (may, june) yeah that'd work!

going to see the league of gemtleman tomorrow in sheffield (again) gonna be good!! i'm waffling now so i'll be off..taaraaa!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Malcolm, you need thse kind of things: <, > instead of [ ]
useless information
USA -

I wasn't suggesting that they could not hold there own I just saw a bunch of posts about them playing Ozzfest and thought it a bit lame considering the fact that Aimee herself had stated that she was not really ever into.Metal before and Ozzfest is and should be about bands who are truly INTO Metal. Warped Tour is more perfect for The Start anyway. Yeah what about the song with Jay Gordon? What happened to it?
GG
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i woulda loved to have seen theSTART with orgy. hehe. it would be such an amazing show. they need to tour together. when i was at the orgy show, i thought - theSTART should be here. alien ant farm was pretty kewl. no one seemed to really like them though...and tinfed was there. i remember seeing them 4 years ago. ah - and once again i am hooked on them. haha. ok i'm off. off to do nothing. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Sorry about the [b] [/b] thing. It didn't work.
Oops
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Right. I'm coming over for a couple of Dates on the Warped Tour. I've decided. I'm gonna travel to the US, get tickets for three or Four Shows, and then come back. IF I do this, will anyone be able to put me up for a night or two? Or help me in some way? Guys? I could be a guitar tech? Or general Roadie? Or anything!I'll Pay!

Oh, and to [b] Someone [/b] who knows who they are. Thank you. Just in case you didn't know already.
Metal Malcolm
Nottingham, Un-UK -

Well, thank god I have some family on the east coast. I will try go to to some of the Warped Tour dates over there! We should START a lil group who follows the band all over the country for the summer. Now that would be fun.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

now i'm gonna have to travel all over the country to see theSTART play live. oh well, a small price to pay for a truly wonderful experience.

"georgousgrrrl" ~ it was slightly absurd to suggest that theSTART could be on ozzfest, but not because they aren't metal. it would be very hard to imagine them opening for (as you said) a band like slipknot but, if they can play gigs with bands like orgy and pmm and even their last show with cold (plus all the openers), then they could definitely hold their own with most of the bands on ozzfest. festivals suck, though, and just about everyone in the band knows what it's like to play shitty festivals like ozzfest.
~sir puke~
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yay! finally, some more info...(excitement)...whats going on with Deadsy. i tried ordering their album from borders and i got a thing in the mail sayinf it was out of stock indefinitely..i really want the deadsy album.....(wimper, wimper).
dean
md -

Just wondering what happened to the song with jay, is it not making an appearence??
???
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i can't wait to see theSTART again...they are a wonderful band....heheh! love peace and respect
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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LET ME BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO SHOUT TOWARDS THE HEAVENS "YES!FINALY!" I CAN'T WAIT TILL THEN. EVER SINCE I SAW theSTART I'VE BEEN LEFT WITH THE CRAVING FOR MORE AND NOW I HAVE A DATE TO COUNT DOWN TO.
SANE53 <DIGITAL_BOY_7478@HOTMAIL.COM>
LOS ANGELES, CA USA -

Information as Official as it can be as Promised on time. News from the front...TheSTART's debut album "Shakedown!", Produced by Josh Abraham and TheSTART, features the following tracks: 1.Shakedown! 2.Gorgeous 3.Communion 4.Melt 5.Hang On Me 6.DirtyLion 7.Her Song 8.Glimmer man 9.Kiss It Better 10.Nemesis 11.Time The timeline as it stands today has the first single "Gorgeous" dance/club remixes going to clubs and specialty shows end of this month and the album version going to Radio approximately May 1st. The record is expected to be released June 5th- Finally! DISclaimer- This is the timeline given to the band by The Label and as with everything in the music business some dates are subject to change. TheSTART are expecting to do some West Coast dates in April and begin touring the rest of the States in May. They have also been confirmed for an East Coast leg of Warped Tour starting August 1st. WooooHOO! Dust off YR dancing shoes, we finally got something to shake about!!
the honourable confounding watermelon
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Jen, you remember my friend Martin? He's coming down to visit me in a couple of hours.
I've just won a micro scooter.

I am at the moment, completely sober.
Metal Malcolm
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June??? Is this true? Can it be? ::sigh::
natalie
ny -

I have just downloaded some of your material and it is fabulous to hear you back Aimee and I can't wait for the new record.My question for everyone including The Start is a while back I read an interview in Metal Hammer where Aimee stated that she was never really in "Metal" and that is why she left HWP to start a band with more of her influences behinh the music. Why then would you even consider being a part of the OZZFEST?This is not an attack or anything I swear it is just something I was wondering. Maybe the band isn't but everyone on the board who is talking about it should really think about the fact that The Start are NOT and may I repeat NOT .. "METAL". They would not really fir on the OZZFEST and I don't think they would go well with bands like "SLIPKNOT" or "MUDVAYNE".Come on people I mean think about it for a minute.The Start would be perfect with a band like "ORGY" although I am not a fan of the new record and they would probably outshine the headliner but that's what I think. Any response?
GeorgousGrrrrl
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bloody hell! JUNE i've been told every month when it will be released, i got to february, march, and now june! good god make up your minds!

mazza is really good, i'm a huge marilyn manson fan, i went to see him in january and he rocked, this sort of thing always happens on here, someone says they like someones music and everyone else goes off on one, we are allowed our own opinions aren't we? this happened when i said i liked aimee more than tairrie! but back to the point, mazza does rock, and i will be going to the UK ozzfest....so malcolm, you better get a ticket!
jen jen
manchester, UK -

theSTART desirves every bit of fame they shall recive..they are an awesome band...the only thing that is going to suck is they won't play samll gigs/concerts anymore...no more walikng aroud like everyone else...good luck to theSTART.. lots of love and respect!
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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kerrang is having a readers' poll to pick the bands for one of the ozzfest stages so there's a chance that theSTART could get voted in.
here comes the defense. mudvayne are very good. i was warry of them at first but i gave their album a listen and i got hooked on it. it is very good, and i'm not one to just say that about any band. it's more than just crunching metal riffs and wails of death performed by a bunch of queers who think they're the next kiss. it has power, excellent lyrics, and "hooks so big if they were used to catch fish they'd be illegal." and slipknot have their own good qualities too. i'll stick by them until i have a good reason not to.
hopefully the next tool album and the next nin album will help right some of the wrongs in popular music today.
~sir puke~
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i still like marilyn manson's portrait album. i always will. he just...got some money. and some fame. and i think it fucked him up. i dont think people with the same mentality as marilyn manson can handle fame very well. they come down with that very peculiar and very prevalent enlarged cranium disorder, where the actual size of the skull swells to compensate for the inflated ego. fred durst can drive his rolls royce right into a brick wall and do the world a favor, but instead, he'd rather just make more money. how you become the vice president of the label your own band is signed to is completely beyond me.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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from the PRP, so don't come cryin to me if this is wack info: theSTART have now mastered and completed their upcoming new album "Shakedown". It was produced by Josh Abraham (Orgy, Crazy Town) and is set to be released in June through The Label/Geffen. The group have also lined up the track "Gorgeous" as the first single to radio and will be shipping a rock and dance remix of the song for adds on March 13th, while the album version itself will go for adds on April 17th. In the meantime, they are preparing to shoot a video for the single with director Gregory Dark (Disturbed) and expect to hit the road in support of the album shortly.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

Review of the Roxy show!
http://www.unearthed.com/reviews/review_s_0079.shtml
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I like Linkin Park, Papa Roach And I still love Marilyn Manson . . . but even then I understand what your saying.
Jeannie <blasphemous@envy.nu>
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FUCK mudvayne. FUCK slipknot. FUCK papa roach. FUCK linkin park. jesus christ. i am growing weary of these groups; its a hideous, gigantic incest orgy down at the old rock and roll mainstream farm. Ozzfest has soured. Marilyn Manson? now that this ego obsessed barbie doll-on-crack bastard is through dryhumping the david bowie cash cow, it seems as if he couldnt figure out where to go next. so he wrote AntiChrist SuperStar over again. im sorry. manson just...isnt scary anymore. that was his whole gimmick to begin with, and, by the looks of it, with all the big bands caking their faces in makeup and cramming every tired, cliched vulgar idea they can into their songs, manson probably doesnt have that much to say anymore, if anything at all. there are several exceptions, in my opinion, but the majority of it is unit-shifting mall creature ear candy. we need our real rock stars back!
kt
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UK Ozzfest cool? PLEASE! Let's see. Sabbath/ozzy, Slipknot, tool, amen. This is good.
Mudvayne, papa roach, almost all of the other bands - NO!I could get such a good line up. Where's System of a down? Glassjaw? Pantera? The Deftones? theSTART? Queen Adreena? Jeez.....

Oh, and Jen, Have fun. I might be going over this summer. Be warned....
Metal Malcolm
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malcolm, thats a bit of a pickle! smack the guy in the face and tell him if he doesn't want her and wants to see other people then thats not really fair on her is it, whats she like anyway? if you have a thing for her then, keep seeing her as and when you can, just to check if she is ok, then see if anything materializes...

all you start fans in LA be warned i booked my ticket for my holiday last night be afraid, be very afraid!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

oh sure, all of us in ca are lucky cause we get to see theSTART but look at the uk ozzfest! tool, mudvayne, (hed)p.e., apartment 26 ...anybody over there own a private jet?
~sir frantic~
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that's what she said.
(i wish)
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OH....MY.....GOD.......That was long
Whew
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malcolm: in my experience if someone has a mental breakdown goes on antidepressants etc then their relationship breaks down naturally anyway, it can't stay the same (not that anyone would want a relationship like that) because the person with problems becomes more and more withdrawn. for example a friend of mine (who has clinical depression)her boyfriend went in to hospital (psychiatric ward) two days after she told him about her problems (two years ago she tried to kill herself, he was the first person she has ever told) she blamed herself entirely when his problem was completely unrelated he had a psychotic episode due to withdrawal from alcohol and cannabis. He became like a child and as much as she tried to look after him she became like his mother. when he came out of hospital and tried to resume his normal life she resented it because she thought he should be more appreciative of what she had done for him, she was still trying to be his mother and he just wanted to be left alone. about three weks after he came out of hospital they split up and she was left with even greater problems. no matter how much this girl (your friend) says she loves him she probably just needs support right now and is clinging to him for security. your best bet in my opinion which, you can say is bullshit, is to support her as best you can as a friend if and when she splits with this guy shes gonna need this friendship but without strings even if she knows you like her you dont have to do anything. all the best relationships come out of strong friendships anyway. i supported my boyfriend through his break up with his first serious girlfriend we were friends and nothing more, now weve been together for three and a half years and everythings still goin good coz we can trust each other. If you give this girl someone she knows she can trust then you have a much better chance than you would with any of your chat up lines!! too add a different aspect to the whole gender ish if a girl says something is sexist then the 'thing' will be changed pay rises equal opportunities etc. however if a guy says something is sexist hes a laughing stock, sexism has become a one way street and in my opinion it is the guys who get the worst deal. sure the stats say that women are payed less but they have worse jobs and thats not through the mens fault gender isn't an issue when applying for jobs anymore infact a female applicant is more likely to get the job by equal rights laws. If i was applying for a high profile job i would much prefer to get it through credit to what i can achieve than because itll look better if they employ a woman. Men need more rights. As for superiority, women seem to enjoy taking a back seat, they like to watch their men bring home the bacon as they serve his dinner for him at six o clock sharp. then they like to complain about it when they realise how boring and mundane their lives are thats what women do best, moan. and before all you girls start shouting at once ill just point out for the record im female too, and i love whinging just not cooking! now ive waffled enough! love ya peeps!!! alexa
alexa
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Just make sure your around her alot. In a few days she'll be doped up and on the rebound!
LOL
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well, if he wants to see other people then they wont be together long. so, unless he plans on cheating and avoiding the break up, that means that she will have a borken heart if she really is in love with him. chances are she's just too confused to know what she's feeling and hopefully the ending of the relationship plus the medication will help make things more clear. if you help her through the rough patch i'm sure she'll appreciate it very much. you just have to make sure you keep a clear head through it and never lose sight of what's most important to you in this situation. you haven't done anything wrong at all.
~dear puke~
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cheer up malcolm.. as natalie said things will unravel. Everything happens in due time and if it were meant to be it will come to be. As for the whole fued between the sexs'.. Well their are always a few kinks to work out in relationships or friendships between the opposite sex. You just need to work with it and not let it trouble you. Anyways, anyone goin' to the Kotton Mouth King show tonight in Anaheim? If so see ya, late. With Respect.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

wow malcom that is quite a situation. I think you should let everything unravel. She is going on anti depressants and in a way that will probably help her with everything. Everything happens for a reason and maybe if you wait a little bit the thing you have for this girl might turn into something between the two of you! :o) Either way i hope everything turns out as well as it can for everyone.
natalie
ny -

That's the great thing, we DO all get along. No one has made any comments which have caused arguments, just discussion. It's great.
Now, I need help. A guy Iknow came to my room last night, stressed out, talking about his girlfriend. Basically, he wants to go out and see other people, and he said he had always told her it was nothing serious. She's about to go on anti depressants (Unrelated), and when I went to see her she looked really down. Now, I have a big thing for this girl, and I told her so. However, despite being really shocked, all she could do was apologise, because she said she was in love with him.
This guy has treated her so badly. It's like he just has sex with her occasionaly,and that's it.

WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE??? I can't do anything right. I feel like Bill Hicks..........
Metal Malcolm
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we do.
~sir puke~
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yes the message-board has gotten quite intresting with the whole... gender/"sex wars" thing.....it is funny to an extent......why can't we all just get along?..... theSTART rules....
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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Hey everyone. The speakout has gotten quite interesting with the whole man / woman thingie. I just think about it and laugh. About the Scott pix i found one where .. well im not sure if its a smile or a smirk but its something! ok well it looks like it could be something. Its a black & white pic of hwp scott and aimee are standing next to eachother on the right hand side and scotts hand its pointing to the others in the band.
natalie
yonkers, ny -

i firmly believe women are the most evil and dangerous creatures on this planet. it's everywhere, even in nature; the praying mantis, that proud, spindly queen actually decapitates and cannabalizes the HEAD of her mate. human females are very capable of committing metaphorical equivalents of that very same degree, while i just dont see many men doing so, in such a premeditated and reflexive fashion. now dont get me wrong, while i do unwaveringly believe that all of you ladies are the collective devil, im a sucker for all of you and every possible facet of your entire gender. please do not eat my head.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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every end brings a beginning, every START foresees an end to this end we await the album and so I sit here, and should be sleeping good night
sam <tzartzam@talk21.com>
w/ton, UK -

wow wow i miss HWP, so hurry up with that album or i will cry. and where the hell can i get E-lUx?????? i have the money, i have the will, but i cannot find it... o well. NO! i will not give up?!!??! helP?! arrrrr....and come and play in wolverhampton. please. soon(ish). xxxx
sam <tzartzam@talk21.com>
wolverhampton, UK -

heh, i noticed it before but forgot that it had any special significance until now. good eye...
~puke~
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that is so cool to finally see a pic of scott smiling..... i wonder why he hardly smiles?......he is in a well loved band by everyone....hell if i was him i would never stop smiling.......and he looks so cute!!!!!!....ahah.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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more chat up lines: - is that a mars bar in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me, do you wear contacts cos your eyes sparkle, nice dress it would look better on my bedroom floor......

so yeah....malcolm theres a picture of scott that i found from the whiskey show bit, its the one where amiee is stood in front of the camera (back stage i think) and scott is sat behind her smiling! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I knew there was one out there, I knew It!!!
Quick everyone, go see before it disappears into limbo for another 100 years!!!!

Hmmm. What does "Save Picture" do again? :o)
Metal Malcolm
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lucky shot! :o)
scott
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YES! YESYESYESYES!!!!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!
LOOK AT THE BIO PAGES!!
SCOTT IS SMILING!!!!!!!!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!! :o) :o) :D
Metal Malcolm
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does anyone know why orgy doesn't like to play in la?.....if you do please email me and tell me why... thanks.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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the whole gender point isn't necessary anymore....women also dominate a so-called male world....everyone should get the same oppertunity....i shouldn't depend on gender nor ethnicity....unfortunatly at times it does. everyone who belives that this world is still for there own gender to rule is full of it...not only men are being accussed of this so-called sex wars, women also act in the same way....how do we expect to over come all of this...if each time we take a step further back...hopefully all the closed minded people would be able to open up and see all of the delema this is causing...good night people. p.s. ~amanda....thanks a lot.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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far be it for me to ask anyone to cook or clean or even care about the needs of another person. some men see women as objects and some see them as servants and some see them as equals. you cannot force anyone to take you seriously and there's no way to know why someone doesn't take you seriously unless they actually tell you. descrimination will always exist and i totally agree that women are treated poorly and looked down on by some men. but we dont have as much power as you think. look at former president clinton. the most powerful man in america and what sends it all crashing down? robert dinero's character in casino is another example. women have the emotional edge and if they are given the power to use it freely then they have more power than any man.
~sir puke~
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Hmmmm. I don't want to get into a whole Gender debate, but, I think that it's less a generalisation than that. I can't talk about Women, they all seem beautiful to me, but there seems to be a definite divide in Guys. There are the arseholes who treat everyone around them like shit unless they want something, and then there are the nice guys who actually care about things. The women have to be careful around guys because of the morons, but unfortunately this also scrwes up the nice guys. Cest la vie.....
Metal Malcolm
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puke: it's not all like that. of course in north america women have earned respect and all the other stuff. but in other countries, look at the women who choose to speak out and are looked down upon, disgraced for it, sometimes even killed because of it. that is the male dominance. and still even in north america, there are men who expect women to cook and clean and cater to their needs. and it is sick. even today a lot of women still aren't taken seriously in lots of things. why is that? because men still feel like they should run everything. not every man is like that and i know that, but it still happens. it's still out there, it just not may be as common as it was in like the '50s. and we don't have to just sit there looking "pretty". there's much more to it than that. like proving we know how to use our brains. like showing we won't take crap like disrespect, and other things. and yes everyone has come along way in the past 100 years. but we've still all got so far to go.
ok i feel as if i have entered a taping of mars venus. i'm outta here. -amanda
p.s. - erika...if i see him, i'll let him know. but who knows, with the snow and all..they might not come outside. haha.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hmmm, well i knew that "nothing" wasn't the correct choice of words as soon as i typed it. "practically nothing" would do much better. of course you'll never admit the superiority issue because then the secret would be out and we'd have a war on our hands! women have come a long way, that is true. but we all have come a long way in the past 100 years. women have won their rights but thats only in certain countries. if this was not a traditionally male dominated world then your life would be a lot harder. women get away with 3 times as much as men do most of the time. for instance, if a woman wants to get into a club and she's under age or has no money or whatever they have 75% more of a chance to get through that door if a guy is the bouncer than a guy would in the same predicament. there are women who will do anything to please a man but what the fuck are the chances that the guy is going to deserve it? those kind of women chose the worst possible guys to shower with affection. women "test" more than guys will. like i said, all you have to do is sit there and look pretty and you used the same examples. the only thing you added were mannerisms and the rest were just "looking pretty." how you act is a very small percentage of the battle and women get regected WAY less than any man. the so-called power that men have in this world is only material or political. women hold the rest of the chips.
~sir bitter~
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i hate it when people are like HI! a/s/l...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....he is just a shadow....Carla,car,carla, i think i love you....THIS IS DANIEL MCMaHONS BIKE RACK!!!!
dean
md -

THAT WAS EAGER NOT EGGER...I FEEL SO STUPID..LOL.
ERIKA <NADJAISAGODDESS@YAHOO.COM>
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i totally agree with amanda....this is a world in which both men and women have to show there-selfes superior than others....tragic i know. AMANDA: good luck at that orgy show...tell paige if you met him that...erika loves him so much, and always will..also that good luck with the rest of the tour and when the hell are they gong to play in la?....thanks amanda. have fun and please post some info on the clubs for orgy... WHEN THE HELL IS THE "SHAKEDOWN" CD GONG TO BE OUT?.......COME ON theSTART....WE ARE EGGER FOR THE ARRIVAL OF THE "BABY"... BYE PEOPLE
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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well of course anything could be considered a pick up line. even a simple "hello".
ok puke. hahaha now this is starting to get like an episode of men are from mars women are from venus. oh man! i won't say that nothing is ever good enough, because at times it is. but men clearly don't understand women, and women clearly don't understand men. women don't always believe that they are superior to men, but come on...how far have women come in the last 100 years? yeah thats right! we deserve some damn credit for everything we've achieved in a male dominated world. but there are still women who will do anything to please a man. even if it means throwing their self respect and all that stuff out the window. and there are women who will walk up to men and initiate the conversation. it DOES happen out there. and of course you're being tested. but can you tell me that women aren't being tested as well? if you don't look a certain way, if you don't act a certain way, if you don't dress a certain way, if you're not a certain body shape, then its the good old REJECTION! it goes both ways. men do it to women and women do it to men! can you honestly tell me that a man, (well there are some men who would) but that most men would pick a 400 pound woman over a 120 pound woman? the odd one might, but out of like a 100 men...it would be like 1:100.
ok i'm done for right now. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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ok...pickup lines.... "you'll do" "i lost my teddybear, will you sleep with me?" --- or something like that. then there is this one "that dress is becoming on you, if i were on you i'd be coming too" with coming spelt with a 'U' of course.
natalie
ny -

MMD (If I may abbreviate). That's not dirty.
*Man gestures "Come here" with little finger*
*Woman walks over*
Man-"If I can make you come with my little finger, imagine what I can do with the rest of my body"
Id just like to point out that a woman told me that one, and I've seen her use it!

Oh, and Pussycat...I WAS THERE!!!!!!
Metal Malcolm
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how about this one "is that a ladder in ur tights or the stairway to heaven" dirty i know but that's me.
moistmuffdiver
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whoops I forgot the times.7pm IN THE UK and 11am IN LOS ANGELES-2pm IN NEW YORK!!!
pussycat
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I just wanted to post incase anyone is interested that today there will be a broadcast on www.virtuetv.com with MY RUIN and it is from the Nottingham Rock City show they did on their UK Tour.Iread it on the message board so I thought I should spread the news as I know there are some fans of MY RUIN who also love THE START!Lets try and support everyone shall we!
pussycat
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well, it kinda has to work sometime doesn't it? even if it's as simple as "can i buy you a drink?" pretty much anything that you say to a person in an attempt to "pick them up" would be considered a pick up line.

of course you've never heard a good one because nothing we do is good enough! women will always believe that they are superior to men. since they know that we wont tolerate a claim such as that, they try to settle for the term "equal" instead of "superior." this is why we have to walk up to them to initiate conversation and not vice versa, because they simply cannot be bothered with such a inferior chore. plus the second we open our mouths we're being tested on everything from our posture to our witts and all they have to do is sit there and look pretty! it doesn't matter how good you might look or how well read you are or how much money you make or even how much you may understand about that girl's feelings, it all comes down to superiority.
~sir puke~
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wow, my internet is finally being good!
puke: now now, if there was a good pick up line out there and it was spread around...don't you think everyone would be using it...and there would be like no singles left. cheesy, retarded, moronic pick up lines like "nice shoes wanna fuck?" are what make the whole dating scene hilarious. i honestly don't think i've ever heard a good one. i have a friend who likes to use "is that a mirror in your pocket 'cause i can see myself in your pants" but...uh...i think we all know, that's not a *good* one either.
ah i'm off. i'm falling ill just before the orgy show which is later this week. not good...-amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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must we focus on the negative? why not post some good chat/pick up lines? that is, if they even exist. maybe ~ahem~ some people need to know a good one or two ... you know, just to know n' stuff.

did that make me sound too desperate?
~sir puke~
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Hey everyone. Im just checkin in, i was tryin to think of more pick up lines for you guys...but i need a pick up myself. I just heard that one of the kids i graduated with passed away last night. This is the 2nd one and it has not even been a year since we got outta high school. whats going on????
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
yonkers, ny -

this is another bad "pick-up line"..... are you tired?...no why?....'cause you've been running through my mind.... how sucky is that... laters people theSTART rules
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
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"SHAKEDOWN" i like it, lots!! i cant wait for this album... hope everyone is well. have fun!! Spiders&Stars*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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I have sunshine in a box......
2D
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the chat up lines. alright here it goes:
are those jeans from outer space? cause your butt is out of this world
someone call god, there's an angel missing
if i told you you had a nice body would you hold it against me?
and everybody knows this one: "if i could re-write the alphabet i'd put u & i together
ahahaha. how sad are those? and to think, those were in my yearbook. ahhhhh!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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thanx you guys!!! i left my doctors surjery for good, i have another one now that i got thru uni, and she is gonna give me extra lessons and other stuff, my dad shouted at the other quack for the pill thing, so i don't have to take anything now!!! WOOHOO!! i have the feeling i'm gonna be abel to spell and read properlly pretty damn soon!! YEY!!!
shakedown is a good name for the album, but i liked circles, but sheke down is good! well done

crappy chat up line - i like my women like i like my coffee hot and strong....with a spoon in them!! or in a plastic cup
jen jen
manchester, uk -

hey malcom I saw u in Kerrang. I cant wait for "SHAKEDOWN" to be released he he he. KT u scared me so much I was gonna cry. ++++LOVE and KISSES++++
moistmuffdiver
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Hey, have any of you people heard about the line up to the Coachella Festival this year? I heard that Moby, Tricky, and At The Drive-In were confirmed. Does anyone know any other bands that are playing? ATD-I and Tricky are awesome, so this show should rule.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

chat up lines? haha. there are so many bad ones. i once got an email that had a ton of them.....maybe i'll just go look in a yearbook of my high school. they once did a feature on bad chat up lines. lol. can you tell they had no material??
hypnaughtika
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you know? being grounded sucks sooo very much......but my parents really have no legitimate reason to ground me.....they grounded me because they say im not home enough? kind of stupid in my opinion....That justs makes me want to leave even more....so yeah, anyone have anything interesting to post......i need a cheap thrill..
dean
md -

increwdibly, malcom? a toast to that, my friend...*cough*
kt
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My..this HAS been a weird night..
As far as i'm concered, all thismeans is that SOMEONE knows what's going on, so I can make do with that! :o)

Oh, and if you thinkmy writing is bad on here, there's simple reason. I'm increwdibly stoned.......:o)-*
Metal Malcolm
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thanks, mr. or ms. HC Melon. random spurts from a large farm fruit yield the most promising record info...
kt
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Distributed-(SP)
the HCW
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The official title of theSTART's debut album is now "SHAKEDOWN!". The title changed as did the track listing after theSTART recorded two new songs and added them to the record. The release date is NOT March 30th. Any information you may have received pertaining to the album titled "CIRCLES" is now incorrect. TheSTART are the first signing to The Firm's new record label-THE LABEL, to be distibuted through Geffen/Interscope. Stay tuned for accurate and official information expected late next week regarding the release date and track listing. On behalf of theSTART I'd like to thank you all for your support and patience.
the honourable confounding watermelon
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WOO HOO! my internet is finally fixed!!! REJOICE!!!!
dean
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jen, pills can do no good for dyslexia its just a fact and the only thing theyve found so far that can help is practice or putting coloured acetate over a piece of writing which makes it easier for the mind to focus on it, either report the guy like malcolm said or find a new doctor the guys talkin shite!
alexa <lexaplexa@hotmail.com>
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SOME OF THE INFORMATION MAY NOT BE CORRECT.... THE TRACK ARE CORRECT THOUGH...THE RELEASE DATE IS NOT YET CONFERMED. ok people..... i was searching for theSTART's cd(info)... i found the name of the tracks and when it is "going to be released"....don't take my word for it....i'm just informing you on what i read... 1.glimmer man 2.gorgeous 3.communion 4.melt 5.hang on me 6.undone 7.nemesis 8.be mine 9.sin original,the 10.make it through 11.kiss it better 12.time the cd is going to be available on 3/30/2001 hopefully the release date is correct.... bye people.
erika <nadjaisagoddess@yahoo.com>
bell, ca -

i am going to strive to develop my own fortune cookie company...because ive always been keen on fucking with people in subtle ways. i'd want to have thousands of fortunes printed up in that fantastic, but very nebulous confucian vernacular, and have each of them read some sort of vague message that relates quite simply to the cookie a client's customer is about to take a bite out of. "Crunchy Sweetness Lies in Your Stars"...or perhaps "Your Future Is Looking Quite Limp And Stale"...or maybe even "Only the Ancient Art of the Heimlich Will Save Your Ass After Imbibe This Evil Wafer of Bloody Monosodiumgludimate DEATH!!!".
kt
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moistmuffdiver: "you are a hapless bag of twisted scum, of only the bleakest and lowest order, for which the term neanderthal must have surely been invented. you have the style and grace of an asthmatic prairie dog and the aroma of a dead jelly fish at low tide. if your parents had only been prochoice they might have made the right one". just kdding! just kidding. dont kill. i formally welcome you, muffy, and all of your crazy alter egos, as i was not available to do so at any prior time. and to you, viola...welcome to our lovely little family.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Is that a mirror in your pocket or can i just see myself in your pants tonight... sorry. that is really tacky.
Fiona
London, UK -

::cries::
~boo-hoo~
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cursed angelfire! i hope this one works...
~ditto~
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~puke o shop~
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Malcolm: :-p
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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Jen -the guys a moron. The only reason I can think of for saying that is that he's trying to double bluff you, make sure you try your hardest and don't just piss around. But if he seriously wants to put you on pills, report him. There is no medical reason for you to be on them, except that it makes his job easier..
As for worst chat up lines?
"You must be exhausted"
"why?"
"you've been running around inmy head all day..."

I thangyew, I thangyew.....
Metal Malcolm
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i don't think that there is any reason to have a worst pun competetion cos i agree that malcolm will win hands down! so i reckon we should have a worst chat up line competetion and then we'll all have a chance at winning! and the first prize would be to become president of the world!!!!!!!!!

i have just decided i hate my doctor, he told me to go to the surgery for some reading and writing tests, (cos i'm dyslexic) and the wanker told me that if i didn't get any of the questions he gave right then he'd put on these pills...what the fuck are pills gonna do to help me learn to read or write properly...i juat need extra help...what a dick!!!!
jen jen
manchester, UK -

Hi Peoples it's one of moistmuffdiver's alter egos here how are u guys? hey dani I cant escape I'm locked in the dreadful cage of EXAMS.Town is shit now but I go there to meet the FEW cool people there. ***** LOVE AND KISSES*****
chronic.clit.chewa
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hey "sir Puke" I think her sister is vio-lynne (violin). soz viola I wanted to be part of the group. Puke u snapped at me agen, sorry but i have an attention disorder thingy.
moistmuffdiver
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malcolm ~ i think you may be right. plus there's no real need for a competition of that sort. i'm sure you would defeat me regardless.
muffy ~ as far as i know anyone who has been "mean" to you has appologized (including myself) so i dont know who you're talking about.

viola ~ you're friends with cello, aren't you?
i couldn't resist!!
~sir puke~
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Hey DAN foster its me, wolverhampton is dying escape while you can!!!! Dance and stealth will kill us all!
ZOMBIE hip hop <dani@glowbones.com>
wolverhampton, uk -

Also... Click on my name and go download "No One" by COLD. Peace.
Charles J. Mounce
Anaslime, CA -

Hey peeps.. will everyone check out http://www.totalassault.com and sign up for it.. They have Street Teams for theStart, COLD, PMM,orgy,weezer,Snake River Conspiracy, and the list goes on.. So check it out,Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

hey guys I just wanted to say that I hate the snow. And when is the CD coming out. Plus hey Jamie Hammerjacks opened back up. I am sure you remember those days. they are supposed to have bands soon. Look you guys could come here and play there.
Steph
Baltimore, md -

Bronagh-Yeah?You think you're good? You aint NOTHIN'!:o)
Metal Malcolm
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the contest. hehe! that's a good question. here's some info. "To theSTART Legions: If you are in our Legions data base, You received a message about the challenge..."
and some more
"You must be an officially sanctioned Legioner already in our data base to participate in the Challenge!" maybe human or a member of the band will clear it all up for everyone soon! i know that everyone who signed up a very very long time ago...hero days got the message. other than that info, i dunno on whatelse there is.
hypnaughtika
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Puke, don't take Malcolm on. He's really good at those self-degrading competitions, I have the scars to prove it! ;-)
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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Well spotted kt, what is it? Anyone know?!
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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Moistmuffdiver - Sorry if you feel like that. I have no problem with anyone on this board. You're all cool
Puke - I would start a competition to see hwo could use the worst pun, but I fear we would kill everyone with boredom before a winner would be found..

Viola - HI!!!
Metal Malcolm
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moistmuffdiver > i'm not mean to you, i've never really spoken to you appart from saying you have a great name!
viola - welcome to the madness!!

malcolm, apology accepted, i'll phone you later!
jen jen
manchester, UK -

HI VIOLA Welcome to theSTART place, I'm saying hi coz everyone was and still is quite mean to me here so to make u happy I'll be nice to u and be inviting were when I joined no one said hi or anything. theSTART are so popular although it MAY (that's a BIG MAY) be that we go on this site every day so we are the 60242 people but I've spoke to atleast 100 people and got em to visit here. hey DANIEL i know how u feel I like tons of musik except for club dance music (house) and teen pop(except for Christina aguillera If it's spelled like that she's cool). I just put myself in the catagory of "DAN Foster" (that's me) and that's it. ***LOVE AND KISSES***
moistmuffdiver
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Hey guys. Im new to the board. Just wanted to drop a line, and say hello to you all. Im not very creative right now..its 4am, Ill get back to you when I have something semi interesting to say! hehe. So..hello!
Viola
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NOBODY I KNOW HAS AN OPEN MIND. THEY THINK IM CRAZY FOR LIKING TONS OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF MUSIC. THEY DONT LIKE ANY 80'S BANDS AND PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO CATAGORIZE ME IN A SPECIFIC GROUP.....WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE..... :-) L8ER
Daniel Strang <The_Magical_Chicken@yahoo.com>
Newbury Park, CA United States -

hahaha yes it was. but only to those that knew what the hell i was talking about.
~pun~
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Jen - Sorry if I caused a near death choking incident. Very Spinal Tap. "Yeah, our last drummer choked on a piece of Toast". Ah, I love that film... "You can't dust for Vomit..."
Puke. That's a REALLY bad pun.

Oh, and incase anyone didn't notice, we just passed 60 000 hits. How popular must this band be? I thank you....
Metal Malcolm
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my father is the reason for that deep purple bit before, although now i realize that i should have substituted them for the who. he also likes jo jo gunne (he pals around with jay ferguson sometimes), thin lizzy, ufo, van halen, rainbow, aerosmith, hendrix, cream, mountain ... you get the idea. he doesn't like led zeppelin, though. he has their first two albums but thats all. "in order to successfully steal riffs you need a large record collection and jimmy page has the largest record collection in all of england." ~ jeff beck. as far as current artists i'd say he likes staind most of all.

my mother's musical tastes aren't worth talking about.
~sir puke~
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argh! stupid internet company, we switched to MSN! I hate it, it sucks...But yeah, how is everyone?
Dean
md -

the url i added is my mates band mirrorfly, its not finished yet but you can go have a look - actually its pretty crap!
jen jen
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malcolm, i noticed that this morning (cos i get K delivered, cos i can't be arsed to walk to the shop) i was eating me toast and having a coffe, opened kerrang and your ugly mug is staring back at me! i nearly choked to death!

but well done! and yeah what is this competition on the HEAR bit?
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, UK -

I seem to be taking over Kerrang! First I get a letter published, then I'm in Face in the Crowd!
Yes, if you look in there this week, I'm on the far right of the photo, in a Neurosis Tee, looking shattered.

Wahey! First Kerrang!, tomorrow, THE WORLD!!! Hahahahahahahaha*cough*hahahaha....erm, that'll do...
Metal Malcolm
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ello peoples.my da used to like iron maiden, motorhead etc. but now he loves anything (like me ) with good bass in it. My mom likes cold kinda minus the swearing she thinks they're gud. None of my family have heard theSTART coz my realplayer is fuct up at da mo. I hope 'Gorgeous' is out soon it's my fave song eva. If it's got more than one version I'll get 'em alll. LOVE AND KISSES MWA MWA
moistmuffdiver
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pardon my asking, but whats this contest under HEAR? its begging my curiosity...
kt
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hey everyone. i just stopped by to say HELLO! so is gorgeous really gonna be released in the next 2 weeks??
natalie
yonkers, ny -

i hear that. while mom may listen to absolutely nothing else, my pops is an OG hippie. THAT music; Buffalo Springfield, 13th Floor Elevators, Hendrix, etc...somehow that strange mix bore them a punk with a soft spot for bluegrass.
kt
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malcolm - my dad listens to AC/DC and loads of other old school rock and my mum listens to Led Zepplin...hence the way i turned out!!! my biological dad likes f**kin limp bastad arsehole wankin fudgepacking Bizkit!!! god i hate him, and not just for that! BYE!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Hey Kidneytheif, at least your mum owns 80's new wave. My Stepdad listens to Status Quo, the Seekers, and Barbra Streisand. and not much else.

So glad I moved out of there.....
Metal Malcolm
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really? cuz some people are having problems with it and others aren't...hmm. envy is freaky! i don't like it anymore. i think i wanna move my site again...lol.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Hmm. No, I only ever got that when I clicked on a link sent through e-mail...
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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bastards at envy.nu...you having the same problem bronagh?? with the pictures and some crap about no linking offsite?? ahhh!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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my mother, my own, dear, mother, who so loves SNOT (sarcasm) has these words to say concerning theSTART's music, which i have recently played for her: "Your influences have to be Blondie and other great 80's sounds, but your sound is distinctly your own. I love it. My son will give me your CD as soon as it comes out. Good luck. PS I love your fashion style, also. Melanie o." ---This from the woman who owns approx. 18 volumes of the greatest new wave hits of the 80's and has since never left the decade, musically speaking of course. Aimee, Jamie, Scott, and Jeff...i have won you swell folk over yet another fan.
kidneythief
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Hello. I love the site. I can't wait 'til the CD comes out. I'll be buying it that's for sure. Good Luck!
Amanda <ZiMmYHateMACHINE@aol.com>
IN -

mmmmmm, citrus and methane. yummy...
~p~
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in dusty ontario. i live down the street from the sunkist plant, up the street from the chino cow quarters, just west of the airport and litterally right next to the 60 freeway. if it wasn't for the pungent smell and the noise i think i'd move.
~sir puke~
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listen to the intense humming of evil - it will take you to the other side
Mirrorfly are playing on th 8th of April at the Witchwood (in Ashton, Manchester), supporting deeproot. email birdspr.u@ukonline.co.uk for tickets - if you live in england that is - if not come anyway!

love you all!!! bye bye
jen jen
manchester, uk -

What city are you in, Puke?
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

Just addressing something I feel passionate about.. If anyone is interested click on the link :) Thanks Laura xoxo
LauRa <fable@writeme.com>
oz -

As from what I hear from maverick the Unloco song recorded that night was "Natural High" and also they are planning to try to get them to play OZZFEST. So anyone check out my little amateur site of poetry? If ya did, what did you think.. I seriously need to know, cause Interscope is about to give a listen to what I have to say and I need it to be good... So I can officially sign with them. Well talk to you peeps later. Respect & Love. Late.
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

southern california (with the rest of the "lucky bastards") about 30 some odd miles away from los angeles.
~moi~
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where you located, puke?
kt
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WAA! I'm not here for a couple of days and I miss LOTS! Oh feck, I'll have to read back on everything when I'm more awake. If there's arguments about Aimee and Tairrie? It's getting old! Aimee and Rayna? Yeah, that little kissie is true, no biggie. Good issue that was too.
I'm taking this opportunity (if there's any fans here?) to say that I saw Babes in Toyland on Friday (in a TINY venue) and it was the best gig ever (I've yet to see theSTART!)! I met Lori afterwards, and she gave me a hug and a kissie and signed my ticket. She seemed really pleased and surprised when I told her I started playing drums because of her, I DID admit it was going to sound "disgustingly cheesey", but tis the truth, I tells ya! Anyway, enough of my babbling, I'm off to bed!
I'll NEVER stay away from the board for so long again!
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
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MuD are going to texas later this month so that might be when they join them. i've heard the name used quite a few times for the last few months. they've played with some bands that i know. dont ask who ... i dont remember ...
~senior vomito mucho~
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hey vaporized you live in fort worth? that's pretty cool...i don't really know any other theSTART fans around here, except for my best friend and she got me into hWp. so when i dance around singing Be Mine....everyone looks at me funny...haha.
RiCki <webmistress@liquidyouth.8m.com>
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hey, hwpgirrrl. everyone's thus far jumped your bones about whats been said...i just want to know how long it typically takes you to type all that. i dont know how anyone could have the patience, let alone the temperment, to go about scrambling the capitalization on every word typed. it looks like a worthless hassle to me. LOL.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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shall we begin?
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