speakoutarchive VII-entries from 11/7/00-12/29/00

startdate 20001229
archive VII

well i finally got the pictures from the troubadour show. at first my computer was being silly and wouldn't let me upload them, but now everything is peaches and cream. click on my name below to see them. welcome back, loogie. i was gonna ask where you were... and it seems that you have pried open your third eye. "it isn't a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. keep that in mind at all times."
~puke~
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The bassist was Jamie...but the guitarist, Mike, has left the band. The new bassist is Jeff, and JAmie has taken over guitar. And all is well.
Linds <SlNdereIIa@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

I was wondering what was going on with the badn...I recently saw a post on the PRP stating that the bassist has left the band...now they posted that the bassist was Mike Smith but we all know that Jamie playes bass.....please help me to understand what is going on so that I can sleep at night.....Aimee...keep real!! rawk on **MoldSpore**
MoldSpore <GlitterKittie666@yahoo.com>
Hollywierd, CA USA -

My feet are cold...errr, that's it. <:\
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

skinamarinky dinky dink.....skinamarinky doo.......Anyone here a Girls Against Boys Fan....Im thinkin of gettin an album, a friends got me "freakonica" for christmas..I know they have other albums, just dont know which one to get.
Dean
MD -

Is Aimee really doing a book?So is Tairre B of My Ruin.I have heard her talk about it in interviews and when I met her recently after a show she told me all about it when I asked her.She said it was a coffee table kinda collage styled artbook with thousands of photos,poetry,lyrics,letters and personal stuff like journal pages.What is your book about Aimee?That is so totally cool that you are both doing books I can't wait to read each one.Are you and Tairre related or just kindred spirits?Please o please post on the board and tell us all about your book. kisses and hugs missi hellen
missi HELLen
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hey, Trigger..how come no one touched your post? That was a really smart post. No..seriously. Thanks.
the_lugubrious_game
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Gee thanks for responding Aimee. I really didn't expect you to. (Yeah I know that was about a zillion posts ago, but I haven't been to this board in a month!) So the basic understanding is emotion and feeling through music. This is so true that sound vibration can affect us on so many different levels (as my good friend Puke has so eloquently pointed out...btw puke: I can't wait for your book "My Views On Stuff". I'll be the first in line to get a copy!) Music and sound is definitely a powerful medium for affecting and altering consciousness. In reality, we are surrounded by sound vibration. What we perceive as being solid is really just millions of tiny atoms bouncing around. When something is solid the atoms are vibrating at a very low level and when something is more subtle and etheral, like vapor, gases, sound, etc., it is vibrating at a higher level. So everything in existence is actually just energy, vibrating at different levels. Even our thoughts and minds and intelligence are a certain type of energy. Hmmm...I could get really deep into this, but since I have a short attention span, I'll end there. So thank you once again Aimee for your response. I'll be looking forward to the new album..oh yeah, and that manifesto for the band that you offered! ;) Maybe you could write that little explanation about the purpose of your music and include it in your up-coming CD. That would be keen. Peace out.
the_non-lugubrious_game(alterego of the lugubrious game)
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The album is expected mid to late feb... Just to let you people know. I'm not saying official, cause I really don't know.. thats just what I was told. Hope everyones' doin' okay and that they have a fun new years. Well, sence someone asked, I'm doing okay... my dream is finally about to come true!! See you guys' on mTV. Love & Respect. Late.
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim , CA and damn proud of it.. actually not really... -

Okay, here's my conspiracy...don't be influenced by it, it may not be true its just some silly thing i thought up that MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE! but prolly not... well here i go.... I have reason to beleive that Aimee and Gwen could be the same person...i mean they look simular (well when Aimee's not loading on the eyeliner) they both sing kinda high pitched and a lil bit whiney, yet make it sound good, they both have very unique ways of dressing and they both are really cool. And you would prollly never see them in the same photo...wut does that tell you?! hehe. Well it makes a lot of sense to me. and what is the motive for this double person thing??? well thats simple... see if you were one famous person.. youd make a lotta money.. but if you were TWO famous people.. youd make more money? seee.. it may very well be true.. think about it...
Unsociable <faceplant123@hotmail.com>
London, Ont kanada -

SAL! hey you! you're where!?! ; ) glad you're doing ok, my friend. : )
kenickie
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You know . . . I noticed something yesterday, a mistake but I haven't been able to correct it yet. I've always spelled Aimee's last name e-c-h-o-e but it's not, it's e-c-h-o, unless of course I was mistaken again. Whatever the case I'm really sorry about it, I'm not to observant.

Jeannnie
CCM <diverse_obsessions@hotmail.com>
I don't live in a city., bc Canada -

My site's up . . . if anyone wants to see it. Can some one tell me what happened in the short month or so I haven't been here? Bassist wise . . .
Jeannie <diverse_obsessions@hotmail.com>
Hellsville, bc canada -

Have a Good New Year Everyone.
Steph
md -

so....how is everyone, no one has asked that in a long time! so i thought i'd just check everyone is spanking! did someone post on here and say that the album will be out in February..not long to go then! c u all later - love and pie xxxxx
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Manchester, UK -

hi nick.. the trip was great :) i had so much fun ... i think im coming back down there in june.. i love you so much.. i dont know when you'll get this.. and im obsessed with portishead as of late. much love to the gimpy dwarf.
venomous beauty <venomousbeauty@hotmail.com>
ca -

I love this band, they're a very well organized group with a lot of talent and a lot of motivation from the looks of things. I hope to see them on tour, and hey who knows, someday the band i'm in may open for them(that'd be nice). Anyways talk at ya tomorrow. Lates
FallyN (Brad) <infiltrated01@hotmail.com>
Holly, MI USA -

ooh the new bois a cutie. kinda reminds me of sean from the toilet boys! :)
kelli <xkillmefasterx@aol.com>
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OI everyone! Happy Holidays. Thought i'd check in, its been a goddamn while. Am stuck on holiday in the mIddle East (as in saudi arabia) so the internet is my only salvation. STILL NO theSTART ALBUM??? C'mon guys!!!!! *smooches everyone* Withdrawal is getting silly! Well, had a wonderful WONDERFUL my RUIN tour, so that helped along the lines of female frontwomen ROCKING OUT. hope everyone's happy. HI to mikey*squeeze*, amanda*smooch*, and kenickie*tickles* Luv salxxx
sal <kia_nervosa@hotmail.com>
LONDON, UK -

Sorry its a bit late but HAPPY KISSMAS! and have an exceedingly camp new year! hope you all got what you wanted, and i'll be back shortly! i've missed you all! love Jen Jen xxxxxxxx
jen jen <freaky_one_uk>
m/cr, UK -

I'm buying a digital camera sometime this week, so my ugly mug will be up too! *small children cry, some run away* ;)
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

Happy X-mas all. Bad news, I got a digital Camera. This means pics of my ugly mug will be up on the web. AAARRGH!!! :) Hope you all have a great time. Oh, and the newbie thing? The only thing that gets me is when people who have listened to music for a few weeks think they know everything, and that their opinions are all that matter. If someone has a genuine interest, it shows. See y'all soon! Oh, and guys, what did you get for x-mas? Buy Eno a new collar for me! :))>
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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merry christmas! happy winter solstice! and all those other things that people celebrate! oh yeah - happy new year too! hope it's all good for everyone...take care. -amanda
hypnaughtika
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Hey! when are you guys playing again??? have anything planned for january? i love seeing you guys.....P.S Jamie do you still have the Cure pin i gave you on your Jacket??
Jen
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let me redefine...i merely mean i find it hilarious that an eleven year old's parents would let him listen to korn. ; )
kenickie
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i hope nobody is getting upset based on termanology. we can't really define the word "poser" in order to fit everyone's interpretation of it. it's just one of those terms for a group of people thats asociated with music. like "groupie" everyone has a different definition of what that is. especially when actual "groupies" start giving their definitions.
~puke~
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(boredom) Because if these what you call "posers" dont FEEL the music, theyre the ones missing out...not us.
dean
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yeah, id have to say that too...Everyones a newbie at some point....Stop sayin poser people...Just worry about yourselves..If someone doesnt know much about a band and only their "singles" then so be it..Why waste time bitching about how you know so much and they dont...Just appreciate what YOU know, not what they dont...
dean
Md -

to hell with all you bastard swine. im sick of it. this is horrible craziness, all around rotten vibrations i am getting from all of you. platefuls of shame all around, lets dig in and eat to the brim. i will be back to post an explanation for this some time in the near future.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Well, I think it's great that more people are getting into good bands, whatever age they are. It's better than them listening to rubbish like N'Sync or Christina Aguilblabla, at least they may grow up with some morals and hopefully basic intelligence, at least Korn and such bands sing about real life, and not about who or what they hope to screw on a daily basis. I can't stand it when people complain about "newbies" or whatever, if the band are worth it, then everyone should hear them.
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

i find it funny that nowadays there are as many posers into metal as there are posers into dance...and a lot of them are 14, 15 year old kids, which is also amusing. ; ) on a side note, on the way to our gig saturday, i was sat on the train opposite a kid who can't have been more than eleven wearing a korn t-shirt. i find that hilarious.
kenickie
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Sorry for the double post.... :o)
Metal malcolm
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I talked about this with a friend, and I guess this is the same. There are people who see music as a fashion Item, something to be associated with, and if they want to listen to n'sync, or the Backstreet boys, or even Korn, then whatever. Likewise, there are people like me, and I hope the majority of people on this board, who really FEEL music, for whom music is an integral part of life. I remember the first time I heard some songs, especially the first time I heard "Hang on Me", I was almost crying. It's so beautiful, it really speaks to me. I can't expect everyone to appreciate it in that way, but if you don't feel that strongly about a song, or a band, don't pretend you're a huge fan of them. I admit to not knowing much about some bands, but I try and find out what I can before I form an opinion. I'm sick of people demeaning the music I love because their friends said "It's Cool". I hope when theSTART tour over here, the audience isn't full of kids screaming obscenities at Aimee, which is what I've heard, but likewise, I hope the venue isn't empty. I guess we can't all be happy. As long as we all act like ourselves, that's all we can hope for. I'm drunk, in case you didn't guess.....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
UK -

Amanda.. I know exactly the feeling you speak of.. that is the reason why I have dedicated my life to music and I will not give up until I'm doing what I love, which is to make music. In the past 6 months,I can close my eyes to any music and just feel the heart and soul put into it.. I guess thats why I like bands like Sublime and Snot, cause the deep mesaages inside and so much heart put into it. It gives you a good feeling and thats what music should be about. Making you the listener and musician happy.... I hope everyone has a merry christmas or whatever you may be celebrating and I hope you have a good one. Love & Respect. Late.
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

I don't know what's going on here, I'm post-Christmas party right now, so I'll post something intelligent tomorrow! Happy Christmas me arse... Bronagh. ;)
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

charles: music should be about music - yet today that seems almost impossible to keep it to. ....last night i experienced something that hadn't happened to me in such a long time. i put on a cd and for that like 45 minutes i was completely lost. nothing else seemed to matter, i had no thoughts, no worries, nothing else existed to me. all i could feel was the music running thru me. i had an urge to dance...just be completely and utterly absorbed by what i was hearing. i missed that feeling, but i knew it would come back with time. and it did and it has to be the most refreshing thing ever. i don't know why i'm posting this but oh well. its going up. as for competition dean - it will always be there. competition brings challange and without challange where would so many be? it brings risk - risk to test yourself to beyond the limits and break the barriers. competition is good when it has good intentions - it's when it becomes selfish and greedy that competition destroys. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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again..no one really needed to be on my side or anything of the sort...I wasnt really pointing to competition in music, more as in life, people compete for everything, whether it be music, food, popularity or whatever else you can think of......I find it however, real real interesting that one comment can make so many ripples.....Its kind of neat to know that, people sometimes can actually take you seriously...hmmmm...Goes to show that maybe were all wrong and opinions arent just opinions, seeing as to how my own and everyone elses has put such reactions on those on this message board....
Dean
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i like music....
Dean
Md -

Amanda.. I agree with you on all degrees. I have a tendency in wording things wrong and you said basically what I feel. People should like whatever music they want to, no matter what people may say. And when I was saying about the trendy is trendy... I don't like the term trendy to begin with. I also understand about the people who do just like things because its in.. but also in some of those cases they're afraid to be left out of the crowd so they follow it. Some even find that they do love the music and relate, but those who just try to please people.. I really do pitty them. I hope someday that people could get along and not bicker about who listens to what. As I said before.. "If you like the music, feel it.. If you don't, leave it alone".. Maybe some day it will be like that. I hope to be part of that revolution. We'll see.. Love & Respect. Late
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

charles: a lot of people would consider the term *poser* to mean - a person trying to be something they are not. i'm not here to judge or put down kids or even try to generalize because frankly i have met some awesome people who love the music i do, but only got into it the past year or 2. however, i'm going to state what i have seen happen over the last couple years. there are people out there who however have hopped on a bandwagon and are certainly trying to be things they aren't. they're not keeping it real. now...in the whole "nu metal" (i hate that term) scene that exploded awhile back, the term *poser* became popular and quick to label others with. it became the label of the kids who would run out shouting they loved a certain band after hearing one song on the radio and not owning the cds and used to make fun of that music the year before or whatever. maybe cuz i don't live in CA it's different here, but that is what happened here and when *poser* became the label of the majority of new fans to the scene. a single can be your favourite song. there's nothing wrong with that. but i think in the end maybe if you're going to claim you love this or that band or that they're your favourite group in the whole wide world...you should perhaps know more then their single. you don't need to know which member is married or who's fucking who, but at least pay more attention to the music then what you hear on the radio or see on the tv. otherwise it seems like you are trying to be something you're not. that is where defenses start to rise on the people who have been there longer or whatever the fuck you want to say. i think if maybe the kids who have been a part of a scene longer give some guidance to the new kids then maybe this *poser* term wouldn't be so popular. now moving on to the whole "trendy not to be trendy" - ok that shit is bullshit. it has happened but who gives a fuck whether you listen to something trendy or not. it's what you like and no one should be able to take you away from that. sure it's *kewl* to say "i hate korn, limp bizkit, slipknot, kittie, etc etc..." but at least have a more valid reason then just because they're *trendy*. and now - yeah some people heard about theSTART thru their friends while others stumbled upon them on their own - but isn't that what the whole PROMOTION side is about? getting the word out. isn't that what you do charles?? it all goes hand in hand. i'm trying to be nice in this post - it is the holiday season, but i'm finding it hard. i'm not trying to say i know it all or anything here, and it may come across like that but i'm just stating my damn opinion. and if you don't like it - i don't care. say whatever you will, at least be honest with yourself and everyone else. keep it real! not some sugar-coated piece of crap that so many people tend to spew these days. excuse the length of this. i'm just having my say and we're all entitled to that. -amanda
hypnaughtika
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But, i have the German import of N'sync before they were big here. So I'm cooler than thou, HA!
thePoser
hollywood, ca 90210 -

One more point. I just noticed this lately... It is now trendy to be not-trendy.. whoever was mentioning about limp and roach.. thats the truth of the matter. In other words, stop with the babble of who's trendy and whos not.. it just lets us see how insecure about yourself you are. Well thats my opinion anyways and I'm sure I won't hear the end of it either. Love & Respect, Late.
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

dean... someone has your back don't worry. Well, where should I begin... Let me think. First the people you call "posers" is yourself as well.. I'm sure you heard of theSTART from one of your friends, thought it was cool and started liking them.. so you just hopped on a bandwagon. People usually don't hear a band unless they become popular, look at korn.. When people started listening to them when "freak on a leash" came out they were labeled as posers, why is that? I think a poser is only someones definition to say, "I was listening to them first!".. People like to have their own territory for keeps sake.. Example: I just got into hip hop and just started listening to KRS-One & Mos Def and a bunch of people I didn't know of before.. My favorite song by KRS is "Step Into a World(raptures delight)", which happens to be his most famous song... does that mean I'm a poser? I think not. People like those songs the most cause they are good songs.. why do you think their played on the radio? It only makes scense. And stop with this, I hate teenie-boppers act.. its getting really anoying. If you like the music feel it, if you don't.. just leave it alone. Respect & Love. Late.
Charles M. (Eyeless) <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

but scott, the idea is not to make other posers proud, but jealous. ; )
Kenickie
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I had a very depressing conversation with a guy last week. It boiled down to the fact that he liked Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach, but didn't know anything by RATM or the Deftones or Metallica and so on... Likewise though, it seems as though it's now fashionable to dislike bands such as Slipknot and limp Bizkit because they're getting succesful. My own opinion on those bands is unaffected by other peoples opinions, but it irritates me, y'know? Apparently at the PSI gig this last week, there were teenage girls who spent the whole gig screaming "Oh Jon, you're so sexy! We love you jon!!!". Hmmm. Not exactly an in depth debate on the causes of poverty in the Western world now is it........ On a lighter note, Have you got any gigs planned for the summer guys? I'm considering taking a week out this summer to fly to the US, and if it could coincide with a gig, i'm sure I could make it along...... ;o)Oh, and somewhere to stay would be nice.....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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awaiting the album.. yaya
Kassy Stevens <sk77@qwest.com>
phx, az usa -

When are we gonna be lucky enough to see THE START and MY RUIN play together on a double bill? They are both such terrific bands and it would be such a treat to all the fans of HWP and MANHOLE if there was a reunion of sorts ya know?Is my idea stupid or does it sound like something that could happen maybe?
eternaLUXchick666
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But....I'm trying to be a poser and I can't fit in!...Damnit!.. Dammit!..Dam It!.. I keep buying the wrong records! Which ones should I buy, in order to make all the other POSERS proud? :-)
scott
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i don't think it's really gone back to competition. not that i am using best of judgement in this deprived of sleep, sick state i'm in. i think a lot of us our going to be feeling like shit during the holidays. haha. wonderful. "poser" man...i dunno on what to say there. a lot of us are guilty for throwing that word out way too freely, and others of us are guilty of being called one. in some cases both have happened. i'm kinda sick of that word. i can't find words to make sense of what i'm thinking right now...i'll finish this in a more awake mind state. i'm off to go get lost in music again. isn't it such a wonderful feeling when you do that? just put on something you love and drown everything else out and nothing else exists for a period of time except that music...i love that...goodnite everyone. -amanda
hypnaughtika
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i agree.....you know when you just speak whats on your mind...But meant nothing about "posers" i get that concept.....I dont think i can really type anything thats gonna make sense, i feel like shit....Im real sick.ahw well.. i was just rambling earlier, but i meant every word...There really is no side to agree with...There were no sides...Again, we come back to competition, you felt you needed to explain yourself...An opinion is an opinion.
dean
MD -

i agree with puke. that's what happens a lot these days and i can admit that i get defensive when there are people who claim to be the biggest fan - yet know practically nothing about what they are talking about. it's just something we do i guess. kinda like how way back in the day people listened to things like mc hammer and kriss kross and now deny ever being a fan. well maybe not fully like that - but there's a relation there. (excuse my lack of explanation - i NEED sleep...but insomnia...ahhhh!) i mean - what if next year theSTART becomes huge...can a lot of people here say that they won't feel somewhat pissed off with "posers" running around claiming to love them?? it happens a lot and yes it can be annoying but at some point - we're all guilty of doing it. well...maybe not all of us...who knows...i'll stop rambling now. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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dean, it's my understanding that most old school fans of a band or whatever are intimidated by "newbie" fans. a lot of times certain bands that were underground and became popular get the attention of "posers" who think that they know everything. you know, those people that say "when worlds collide" is their favorite pm5k song or "last resort" is their favorite papa roach song. or those people who think that they are soooo punk rock cause they have the blink 182 live album. i met these kids in the mall who thought that opiate was the new tool album. it's because of people like this that make people like me brag about how long we've been down with whoever or how many times we've seen whatever band before they got signed. not everybody is like that, but with the ever-growing population of "posers" invading music; more and more people are getting defensive when it comes to a band that they like being exposed to the brittney spears generation of consumers. i mean, you dont even have to be able to play a fucking instrument in order to have an opinion about a band and influence their individual careers. you can be the most talented songwriter known to man, but if enough people think that your band "sucks" then your whole potential listening audience is lost. just because some poser piece of shit who knows nothing about the talent it takes to write the music that they hear tells all their friends that they heard this one song by some band and they suck so now all those people will never buy that band's album unless they are somehow convinced that they dont suck. people dont realize how much their opinion matters sometimes. and, to top it all off, they cant even explain why they think that way. it's just their opinion and thats all that matters or something. sorry....ranting...
~puke~
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Jenny, get the POD by line 6, those things rule.
jamie
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Why is it that everything is competition....Someone comes on to these types of things online. You know, message boards, chat rooms and stuff like that. Someone comes on and talks about something, whether it be a movie a band or something else. Then they are attacked, well not necessarily attacked, but put down because they didnt READ THE BOOK first or were the first to see the band! Or hear the band.. It seems to be that human nature IS competitive(just stating the obvious)...I just hate that...Why does it matter if you knew who this band was before someone, its more important to think that wow, someone that i have something in common with.....Something that someone can realte to....Not, SHIT IM COOLER THAN HIM cause i had the cd the day it came out... everyone is just so...so....so....insecure.
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

(sigh) just venting.
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

My blanket of comfort, slashed When you raised me up Stole my love and took me for granted Threw me away like some toy Thats out of date. Im out of date, didnt feel i should exist Not a toy, was your son You fucked me you son of a bitch Shit on me to keep me dirty The shits in my brain bacteria eating away my all Creeps through my skin Whispers to me all the shit you put me through the streets you threw me to The wolves you fed me to, like some goddamn table scraps, (i hated you and I always) WILL! Crawl on hand and knee , Just to please you all Only to feel recognition For becoming the worthless shell I am Wrong fucking time to feel sorry For myself When all is on a tight kind of rope One wrong step, and I fall You made all the wrong steps on that rope Made me see the shit we live in And how we will never be seen As the people we are, but for what you forsee to be me Never willing to listen About how my problems are far worse Than to ever be more important than The shoes on my feet, or maybe even Ill just never be heard again All go deaf from the sound of Terror breathing from that boys Eyes, when he knew it could Never Change.....
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

HEY JAMIE......SINCE YOU PLAY GUITAR CAN YOU HELP ME OUT....WWHAT WOULD YOU RECOMEND THE POD BY LINE 6 OR THE ROLAND GT-3?? I HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THOSE FOR X-MAS.....WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET?? THANKS!!
jenny
USA -

I remember buying the Days of the New album a few years ago, thinking it'd be great considering I had heard so many good things about them...God they were the pits...a cheap, bad karaoke version of an Alice In Chains (whom I love!)rip-off! I'll never get that �15. back again! :(
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

"Lately it seems like my dreams have started to die It occured to me on the inside I guess so have I..." Old Enough - Nickelback (The State - 2000)
damage <rmczinder@hotmail.com>
Grayling, MI USA -

Hey... I need your guys' help. Just wanted to see if anyone hear likes 'Days of the New'.. Cause they have broken up but the band remained together and got a new lead singer. They are now called 'Tantric', so if you would like to get on the email list for the band and/or other maverick recording artists contact me at my email address and I'll get you on the list. Thanx. Late.... /click on my name to hear the music/
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

HEY~ All you crazy kidz. If you were a big fan of HWP (which I'm sure most people on this page are), and especially if you dig loud, agressive, vulgar females: check out this band Half-Cocked. I just heard of them the other day and they kick ass!!!
Snotchik27 <snotchik27@aol.com>
SLC, UT -

KENICKIE - She's cool, just gone on holiday for Xmas. Lucky girl :) I'm more of a Yahoo and ICQ person :) screen name meat2dead. See ya Mikey
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
London, UK -

'ey up loveines! hows it all going? haven't posted on here for ages cos my damned 'puter broke, but its all fixed now! so whats been going on? i was reading sommat about songs that are stuck in headds, well...i can't get f****in' 'Rollin' by that fat dude and his mates outta my head, i really don't like it! ooh, and i would just like to say that these past few months have really sucked, i read in Kerrang that Joe C had died and then yesterday sat watching ther news i here Kirsty Macoll had died..so theStart please for the love of god watch yourselves! that is all!!
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
M/cr, UK -

MIKEY! hey! how is sal? i haven't seen/spoken to her in aaaaages. mainly cuz i always forget to put yahoo messenger on. ; ) oh, and if you or anyone else has aim, my screenname is alarch unig.
kenickie
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Hi!
scott
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Hi
Priscilla <fetishablue@aol.com>
AZ -

I want to know why you are going in the studio to retrack songs. Are you going to retrack all the songs that Mike played on or just a couple of them?
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USA -

Hey there people. Does everyone LOVE AIMEE ECHO or what? She's the cutest, sexiest 'Rock Star' to ever be given to us. Good luck with The Start come to the U.K and let us Englandish people dance coz we loves dancing mwa mwa.
dan foster <the1onlydanfoster>
wolverhampton, U.K -

We struggle for freedom from oppression, yet we are only oppressed but the masses who are controlled by the few in power. These few use the strongest weapon of all against us - information. They lure the masses to obey thier opinions with thier "truth". So we must arm ourselves with the weapon of knowlege and come to our own truth. Read the books of the past, search the internet for the future -switch of the tv and don't let the powers that be switch you off to the real world..
Trigger <answers@glowbones.com>
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We struggle for freedom from oppression, yet we are only oppressed but the masses who are controlled by the few in power. These few use the strongest weapon of all against us - information. They lure the masses to obey there opinions with there truths. So we must arm ourselves with the weapon of knowlege and come to our own truth. Read the books of the past, search the internet for the future -switch of the tv and don't let the powers that be switch you off to the real world
Trigger <answers@glowbones>
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i liked the movie, but true, movies do ruin the books. Like Silence Of the Lambs, and Congo...I mean Silence Of the Lambs was good and all, but the book was awesome, it was just little things that upset me....But i didnt even know American Psycho was a book... Oh and dont see Pist, that Sex Pistols movie, its way boring...Well maybe it is because its more of a documentary than a movie.... me and my friends did christmas yesterday! I got some cool ass stuff. One of my friends got me Fight Club, i love that movie....
dean
MD -

Arrh how things change. I remember seeing Amiee Echo and Human Waste Project. In the lovely town of Wolverhampton, England. I was soo young and have to say you warp my little mind. It was cool and inspired me and my friends to start a band too. Cuz i always remember you lot just selling your own merch at the stands. that was cool..i have listened to theStart demo and it rocks -different!!Something new and kinda funky! I hope theSTART come to England and be as kewl as always.Well Mucheo Loveo of all us at www.glowbones.com
Daniel <dani@glowbones.com>
Wolverhampton, England -

Thank you
Jade
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I know, movies are almost always worse than the books. That's why I didn't want to see American Psycho. I love the book, but they'll ruin it. I have seen one or two that are good, but I can't recall them right now. Oh, and 55 000 hits!!
Metal Malcolm
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I've read American Psycho but I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm always disappointed by films that are based on books I've read, they're always changed for the worse (for example, The Beach!).
Bronagh <bronagh@hellokitty.com>
Dublin, Ireland -

I saw a really good freaky movie last night. American Psycho, es one fudged up filem I liked it alot though. Oh and i bought American Beauty today(the movie, not the album). I love it...Oh and i had band practice yesterday, we sort of have a bassist now..Hes creepy as hell though. Its cool though cause we sound better with a bassist, weve already played 2 ahows without one...Oh and jade youve got some real good poetry i liked it...
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

Hey guys ! Does someone know if the album will be release in Europe as soon as in the USA ? And through which label record ? Thanx theSTART rocks !!! frozertt
frozertt <thefrenchstart@hotmail.com>
Etampes, France -

Thanks for the help, Jamie. Even though it is sad that we can't hear it...everyone who DID hear it knows that the song owns. I have that chorus stuck in my head...when you guys helped out on it. Also, are you planning on playing any shows before the CD comes out? You need to...just a couple more so we can experiance you all before you're playin stadiums. -Alex
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Tustin, CA USA -

Sorry it took so long for me to respond, Dean. Check out my site if you will its http://communities.msn.com/spidersforpoets I would love an responce back about my poems. Jade
Jade <vampirejade@hotmail.com>
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I've just finished one of the SShittiest weeks ever. I'm actually glad to be home, although my SDtepdad looks like he'll put an end to that soon. BUT GOOD NEWS! I can now email the demo to my University address, and Listen to it wjhen I get back! Oh, presuming my monitor didn't break when it feel down a flight of stairs. Hmmm, fat chance. Like I said, shitty week.............
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
In Essex for Now, UK -

Alex, We just finished recording Shakedown for the record a week ago. We're going into the studio next week to mix that and two other songs, as far as putting up files ,I doubt it because we're at crunch time right now and as soon as these songs are mixed and mastered, which is by the end of the year, the record should be coming out about a month or two after that, let's say late Feb.? So, sorry but we're not done yet, we suck.
jamie
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you know what song i can't get out of my head right now? "nothing to gein" by mudvayne. i cant even sleep!!
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OK, anyone is theSTART needs to help me. Since I went to the Troub show, I have not been able to get the song "Shakedown" out of my head. IS there any way in hell that you could either post an mp3 or a Realplayer file of it for us? I think it is by far your best song. Hope to hear somethin soon. Thanks so much. -Alex
Alex <>
Tustin, CA USA -

hiya hypnaughtika, sal nearly fainted :), hey aleast its better than here all we keep getting is floods and storms
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
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Yea Bush did win...probably. They still have to vote on Dec 18th. But he isnt really hitler..more like a really dumb antichrist.
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hey mikey...sal must be really happy about that. her site is awesome! so whats up? take care and byebyez. -amanda ps. i don't want to go to school. too much snow. ahhh! damn canada and it's snow!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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thanks..'dj ill will' ..eh em..
alicia <venomousbeauty@hotmail.com>
ca -

I missed what happened? Did Hitler/er um, I mean Bush win?
#2832743
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Kristy Kitten :--- I went to the Thursday show for My Ruin. The reason the Snake River cancalled was the Drumer broke his wrist. But you missed up the best bit was that the last song of the nite was dedicated to my mate SAL and her website :) and boy was she happy about that. Mikey PS hi hypnaughtika and Kenickie
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
London, -

kidneythief sends his wishes his ghetto computer's busted so he'll be out for awhile
dj ill wil
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baltimore
jamie
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so Jamie, where in Maryland are you from?
Dean
Bowie, MD -

Im in school. Computer graphics is fun...Anybody know what country i should do my travel book on?
Dean
MD -

Was Sonny there? DUDE! Shame I saw them at Rock City. My War was great though.
Metal Malcolm
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YAY! Using my heightened sense of Irony, that was great Puke! I haven't laughed so much in, well, minutes at least. To quote Sonny from Amen "So many of these nu metal guys are great bands with rappers, because the guys can't sing. If they did they'd be so out of tune they'd ruin the band". Ahh, It SOO fits...
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

When are you coming to the UK Miss Echo?Are you ever? I recently had the most incredible night of my life and it will never be forgotten. My Ruin played 2 sold out nights at the Garage in London(which I have not heard of any band doing in forever) and I was told that Snake River Conspiracy was no longer on the tour because someone had broke an arm or hand or something..anyway the rumor was that someone special was gonna be on the first nights show(we first thought Jack Off Jill but then remembered they broke up) so then we thought maybe The Start but we we wrong.I have to say that the show was super fantastic and all the members of Amen were there too. Miss B brought Sonny Mayo up on stage and they talked about the Strait Up tribute record and held hands and hugged as the crowd went ape shit. Miss B told everyone to remember what a "Tribute" album is supposed to be about and she was in tears as they did the song "Rockstar" and Sonny dived into the crowd. It was the most memorable show ever and even Roy Mayorga got up and played drums on the last song they did(the Black Flag cover of My War and she had Jessicka from Sugarcoma sing with her)Sugarcoma really are great and anyone who liked HWP should check them out because the singer is like a little Miss B with a bit of Echo and an English accent.After the show both nights we got to hang with the band at the party and it was so cool. I asked Miss B if she was ever gonna bring The Start over to play when they return in the new year but sadly she said no because the music was so different and would not really go together. Is that true? Are you all that different now? Well in my dream the best show would be My Ruin, The Start and Jack Off Jill but is guess it's just a dream so I better hope to see you on your own and soon too. Is the site gonna get some new photos put up soon?I agree with the Fred Durst comments below. He is what he is and should not have been allowed to ruin that record with his egocentered lyrics and shout outs to Limp Bizkit. Who ever does not see this is blind as hell. Kristy Kitten
Kristy Kitten
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BILOXI!
fred
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I made some lyrical errors qouting sublime, but I'm sure you guys' can manage.. Late.
Eyeless
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"we took a trip to garden grove, smelled like lou dog in the van.. It's hard to keep my soul off the ground..".. Sorry had to do that Ruby... Anyways, I hope you were being sarcastic puke. So whats everyone doing this weekend?? After the weekend of shows.. I'm going to a rave, haven't been to one in a while. So it should be good. I believe its called 'animation', so see you people who are going their. Respect & Love. Late.
Charles Mounce AKA Eyeless <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

YAY I always wanted to be a heretic, except for that whole burning at the stake thing... but anyways I wanna be just like Aimee when I grow up and both HWP (r.i.p.) and theSTART rocks. Since I live less than an hour from LA hopefully I can see some shows and take some pictures =). Also it's rad that we're supporting the band and all, have fun everyone!
Ruby <rubygirl@cyberbabies.com>
Garden Grove, CA USA -

hey now, we cant have an album with singers from "new metal" bands of the 90's and not include fred durst! how else would we get the kids to buy the record? and his track on the album just wouldn't be DURSTy enough for his fans unless he mentions the band he's in at least once in the duration of the song. besides, who really cares about the definition of a tribute album anyway? who really cares if it's apparant that fred is more concerned with glorifying himself then the memory of someone twice as talented as he is? sure, most people would think that it was wrong for him to upstage his supposed friend on the album dedicated to his memory, but those people aren't limp bizkit's loyal minions; ever-ready to send another dollar their way. FRED IS THA MAN! LIMP BIZKIT FOREVER!!
~puke~
limp vomit, usa -

My Note about fred durst being on the "Strait Up" album.. Well I thought it was such a disgrace what he did.. Everyone on that album dug in and poured their heart out and he just cussed every other word.. I had my sister listen to it and I explained what the cd was about and she was even saying that he was just not praising the memory of Lynn the way the other people were. He is very self centered and I understand why he was on the album, just not what he did on the album.. It just wasn't right.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

I don't know even where to start about why I love music so much! When it's something I DO love then it gives me a shiver down my spine, like HWP and theStart do, and most recently Snake River Conspiracy (I LOVE that band!). Plus being in a band (which I'm not at the moment...!) and playing live is the best feeling! Being praised when you finish is just an added bonus! I'm a bit of a lyric freak too Hyp, but that's really so I can sing instead of hum in the shower! Heeee...
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

Jamie are you and Aimee coming to visit your Dad for the Holidays.
Stephanie
Baltimore, MD -

Hehe, thanks for answering. Hmmm, it really foesnt sound like him(jon davis) I never really got into korn...
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

Hey everyone. Welcome Jeff! OK im sure you guys can figure out this my first time writing here, but i have questions and want answers. #1. Does anyone know when circles is gonna be released? #2. for theSTART: when you guys tour what bands are you thinking about taking with you? Thanx
Natalie <xGirlsxRepublicx@aol.com>
Yonkers, NY -

Can I answere that question? for you Jamie
Stephanie
Baltimore, md -

Hey Dean, guess who else is from Maryland.
jamie
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malcolm: don't worry about it! you didn't sound bitchy at all and yeah i know what ya mean. his voice has kinda softened out there but there are times when he can still pull off a mean angry growl. hehe. i love love their music. and i'm sorry if i sounded bitchy! i'm in a bad mood. too many things due too soon, stoopid damn snow storm going on right now, too many ppl messaging me...ah the brain can only handle so much. you wanna hear some mad vocals - check out juice. sadly brian is no longer the vocalist - i'm not even sure what is going on with the other members. but brian - he makes the transition from screams to whispers or to melody sound soooo wonderful. so beautiful. brian armer is one vocalist the world should hear. one thing that makes me frustrated is when people call juice korn rip offs. well now - since juice was the remaining members of sex art...it's all little hard not to have a tad bit of similarity but juice held their own. it's just a shame they were never signed. enough rambling. i am posting huge posts. sorry everyone. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Sorry Hyp, I wasn't being nasty about Jon's Voice, and I agree, Korn have had a lot of things said about them that aren't deserved, It's just that when you compare the growl he had on the First L.P. and "This Town" to his boice on something like "Make Me Bad", there's a big difference. It's not that his voice was neccessarily better, that's a matter of personal preference, but It's different! Sorry if i sounded bitchy, I didn't mean to! :o)
Metal Malcolm
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for a lot of us - music is our life. for others - they don't care for it. it all depends on the person. music is my life. without i'd be insane - i need it to live. i think that when a song that you can totally relate to is when you are moved. i pay more attention to lyrics then the music. i am a lyric freak. and even though i write lyrics i don't feel confidence in them. i don't think they are good enough - but that is my opinion. others seem to like them and can often relate. anyway moving along - why does everyone rag on korn? last time i saw them jon could still growl. but that's not what they're all about. i still love them. their music had a huge impact on me - like almost 6 years ago when i purchased that copy of self titled album. i can still go back and listen to it and feel the same way i did the first time i heard it. although a lot of people don't like their new stuff i still hear the old korn in it. the things that i love i still hear. and even if i ever stop loving korn's music i'd still rather listen to that then limp bizkit. at least jon still has meaning and feeling in his lyrics. how much meaning is there in "keep rollin" or "see this platinum hair" or whatever the hell fred says. doesn't seem like much thought went into those at all. and who can forget the band plugs in the middle of songs or saying another band member's name cuz obviously a line filler was needed in the lyrics. just like mentioned a long time ago - look at his contribution on strait up. if you ask me he could have dug deeper. no offence to limp bizkit fans. i guess that's it, i'm just having a say on some things. pay no mind unless you want to. take care everyone and byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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My two cents: Music is everything. How people I know can say they don't listen to music is beyond me. Surely Music is the single most powerful form of expression ever. I can listen to anything, but sometimes it just goes over you, and it's background stuff. However, when It does hit you, certain songs can bring emotion to the fore so much. I remember breakiong up with an ex girlfriend. I was distraught, and I sat there, crying, listening to "Born Too Soon" by therapy?, and it all made sense. Likewise, the first time I heard "Hang on Me", I was blown away. All I could say for a whole minute was "Whoa......". And how many songs can make you so energetic and out of control that you punch your nose ring out of your own face, like "Be Quiet and Drive" did to me a week ago? Genres are unimportant, the only thing that matters is that it hits you THERE. I can understand the Fiona Apple comment, that was exactly how I felt when I heard "On the Bound", All that matters is that you can tell the performer put their whole soul into the song. I write songs, and discard them after a couple of days because they annoy me. I just see the greatest cliches in them. But when I write something I like, I almost feel ashamed to play it. It's mine. My own feelings, which I find difficult to bear to other people. I can understand why some people write very obscure lyrics, as if it hides their feelings away. Yet when you connect with a song it's the greatest thing in the world, besides True Love. Sorry to go on. Oh, and it is Jon Davis in "This Town", just from back when he could still growl... Malcolm
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingahm, UK -

Are we all giving our fellings on what music is? Well music....hmm what can i say...Music to me is just, well its everything..Idunno, music is me....music just does so much for me...emotions...Hmmm, i wonder if im making any sense...Where would i be without music? Well idunno, maybe insane, or maybe just normal, but i do know im happy i have it in my life.....I dont think its fair to stick to anysort of kind of music, cause you miss out(im off topic i think)....Hehe, i dont know where im goint with this at all.....OK, music is....music is whatever the hell i damn well feel like making it out to be, whether it be an escape, a vent, a laugh, you get whatever you want out of what you hear, i personally take alot of music to heart, i cry alot when it comes to music(Fiona Apple-love ridden)...Its really hard for me to listen to that song.... I ALWAYS cry..... and shit parents suck, ill continue when they stop sucking(no pun)...
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

Awww how sweet of you aimee...DUDE! Someone else from maryland!! YEAH! You and me Stephanie! We gots to get the word out about theSTART! hehe(no worries, im not THAT psycho)So anyway....Actually aimee i have a question..Its about HWP though, on the song "This Town" who is the guy singing with you? People keep saying its Jon Davis, but it sounds nothing like him....ANd i think at some point you say the dudes name in the song....but..Well who is it? Hmmmmm, im bored.....
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

Hi. Sorry to be so off topic...but does anyone know who Orgy is playing with this Sunday in Cali? I have noooo clue and I'd really like to know. Thanx a lot :)
Linds <XSTARhalo@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

Well fuck that and the horse it rode in on! When I die, I don't want people to be happy! HELL NO! I want hysteria and tears and lots of them! Why? Because I'm fantastic that's why! Heeheehee! :)
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

I have tickets to see PJ Harvey in London on 11th Feb, which is a Sunday. I found out today that I have to be out of town with work!!! aaahhh. The reason i got tickets for the 1st date (she's playing on 12th and 13th too) was becuase i knew i wouldn't be around for the other dates. So very annoyed - can't decide whether to cry or just resign. bloody hell. So if any of you Londoners out there want tickets for the 11th Feb at Shepherds Bush Empire... :(
Fiona
London, UK -

hey Dean I think you have got Aimee a little sparked up for some reason. hey Jamie.
Stephanie
Baltimore, md -

Hi everyone. Aimee, you are the voice of a generation, you can put in your lyrics and voice emotions that most people can only feel. From the Demo of TheStart that I have heard, it is amazing. Not able to be categorized, but pure art in sonic form. I have a band in the DC area as well, it is called Revolved, we play a style of music that is utterly unique and more felt than heard. Our Website's URL is above, and if you feel so inclined, you may check it out. I can't wait for the album and live performances, next time you play out I will be there, even if it is California, I will fly out to see the future. Keep up the good work!
L.A. Baker <rychecrime@earthlink.net>
Washington DC, USA -

I see music as a culture... a culture that can make anyone unite together. Aimee put into words what I've been trying to put into words for the past year. Music is a part of everyones life, no matter how much people may deny... It helps us decide what decisions to make in life.. Thats why I myself have turned to music to tell what I feel needs to be said. I will start a group shorty that will be called 'Eyeless Premontions', we will be the beginning of a new music.. Imagine 'Sublime' with a twist of 'KORN' add a little undergound Hip-Hip such as 'Reflection Eternal' or 'Mos Def' and also add a touch of 'Bob Marley' and just a touch of 'Rancid' and you have us. We are a culture of our own and I hope to make some difference in the music culture and hopefully get people to stop wellowing in their pain and show how wonderful happyness truelly is.. i may be talking to much, but I'd like to describe what I'm talking about. People throughout life have always cried when their heart is broken.. when people die.. I know that is only human emotion, but if you think of it. Do you think the person who died wants you to be sad??? I think not, I think they would want you to plaster a grin across your face and you may do so in their memory.. don't look down on lifes troubles, look pass them.. I have found a way to do so and I am absolutely happy and I want people to feel the way I feel and that is why I have started this. People don't need others to decide their happyness, they should be dependent on their decisions. And now a very good point.. It has now become "trendy" to become untrendy.. tell you the truth.. everyone trys to be needed and they make themselves feel lonely, nothing ever seems to feel what they need. Don't try not to be trendy, so you can feel your original, just doing so makes you so... Be yourself and you will find that it makes a difference on your life and nevermind if people judge you ... being yourself is what makes you original. So think of what I said and I hope to see some of you when I finally get a chance to tour. Now, don't forget to dance.. Anyways, Respect & Love to everyone.. Late.
Eyeless <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

Dean... anything.
echo
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hi all well its been a while since i have been here, its rad to see everyone is being nice :) hey PUKE where were you after the aaf/colorred show?? hmmm MUSIC is awesome, without it I would be lost.. my collection of music is like the story to my life.. if that makes sense to u.. it is how YOU take it in. Everyone take care.. spiders&stars*Angela*
Angela <onestatalone@yahoo.com>
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music is something that has been a major part of our lives since the beginning. you cannot expose yourself to any form of media and not be introduced to at least some variety of music. it is more than just the fabric that holds us all together, it is the smell of it and how it feels to the touch. aimee articulated a similar notion with her story of the piano. music from a singular instrument is created through vibration. even if a particular instrument reproduces sound digitally, the sound is amplified by a speaker which also opperates on the princible of vibration. so, not only do you hear the music, but you can feel it as well; in the most literal sense of the word. it has been proven that the vibrations caused by music mixed with it's syncopation can affect a person's emotions. simply put: sad music can make you sad, happy music can make you happy, etc. you can feel music but you cant see it. it is everywhere and everything. sounds kind of like the idea of god, doesn't it? for more insight into my views on stuff, feel free to purchase my book: My Views on Stuff. of course it hasn't been written yet, and i dont know if it ever will as long as i have message boards to post on and people to pretend that they are interested. and now i see a giant cane like something out of "night at the apollo theatre" coming to pull me away...
~puke~
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Ahhh, Aimee, you always know what to say. Hope everyone is doing good. Although no one really says anything to me anyway(not sayin it for pity, just observation). Ive been listenin to At the drive-in lately, their newest album , theyre a really interesting band. I like em though. I bought a Dillinger Escape Plan album yesterday(self titled) and then proceeded to spend all the rest of my money on christmas presents. 5 hours in Annaplois mall is a LONG time.....Oh how time flys when youre spendin yer money on someone else. HEHE, tis the season though....
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
MD -

this was interesting
justin warren <jwarren349@yahoo.com>
caro, mi united states -

Beautiful. I can't find the words. Well, I'm absolutely exhausted, which may have something to do with it, but that was such an eloquent response.... GODDAMMIT why am I so unable to get anything by this band................
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

substance? message? The Start? Odd to be questioned about that here but, then again, I'm never surprised by anything I find here anymore. Would you like a personal belief system for each member, or would you like the beginnings of a manifesto outlining the group intent? Or is it that you just simply want to know what the lyrics to the songs are meant to imply? If you would like to specify, I would be happy to provide you with some insight into any of the above mentioned. Just to get started (no pun), sometimes a song is just that a song,MUSIC. A few nights ago, I was offered a spectacular opportunity to lay across a baby grand piano while a friend and fantastic pianist played MUSIC. He just played played and played. I was so moved, physically, I cried. I laughed out loud uncontrollably. Deep sorrow, melancholy, joy and just plain silliness, and then sorrow all over again, or whatever else he intended me to feel with every note he struck. I could FEEL every note he struck in every cell of my body. The breath was sucked out of me over and over, and the butterflies rose and fell in my stomach. I was reminded what music is, PURE EMOTION. I was instantly that five year old girl again, all by myself in giant headphones listening to my Mom's Beatles album for the ninth time that day, in my own special world that no one could destroy. Music and song are everywhere, in every known culture and have been since the beginnings of time. Music is used for celebration, for unification, for ritual, for recreation, for protest. All that it asks of you is to listen or if you choose, to FEEL, how deeply is up to you.
echo
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well.. I didn't go to the deadsy show, I went to a Rancid/AFI show... I just got back and I feel like a gutter punk.. My ride bailed on me and I had to go throughout the parking lot for a ride.. and look I made it home. It was an excellent show, security were freakin assholes and it was tiring, but alot of adrenaline. Anyways, anyone one else go to this show? And how was that deadsy show? and that downset show?.. To many shows to choose from and I picked the free one... guestlist!!! Anyways talk to you people later. Respect & Love. Late
Eyeless <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

Hey to anyone goin' to the sold out D E A D S Y show tonite, I'll see them there...Byee...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA USA -

DEADSY this friday in hollywood!!!! go go go!!!
WickedAnmorata <wickedanmorata@yahoo.com>
los angeles, ca -

malcolm, hmmm...pitchshifter! i could see them again! off to see Amen on sunday and then Papa Roach next week, ooh i'm so busy! looks like its gonna be when pitchshifter are on, does anyone have the Guano Apes album, cos HMV have sold out and i wanna know whether its worth buying or not!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

hey, great sound, can't wait for the album, i only just resently heared about you guys, but i already love your band. And hey, cool site.
Jon Carter <daft_tyrant@yahoo.com>
danville, ca usa -

aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh shroom gurl!!!!!! hehehe. welcome marianne. nice to see you here *waves* haha. hopefully you come back and see this. otherwise i'm going to feel like a total idiot. haha. oh well. so yeah *right on!* it was *nice* of you to join the speakout. laterz. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hey! me and Useful Boy have something in common i guess! i've been wanting to join fer a while on the speakout board . . . soOoOo so hi everyone and hugs - especially amanda - who's one of my bestest friends! :) cos she's *SLICK*!
bEsT*GiRL*tRiX <best_girl_trix@yahoo.com>
toronto, on CANADA -

Amanda thats exactly what I was trying to say... Some bands just want you to get some kind of vibe from the music its self. If you go to shows and see a band that just feels your adrenaline to the max and you feel you need to move... then do so, I felt bad for Aimee the last show. She wanted us to dance but no one was moving.. People shouldn't be afraid, they should move when it seems fit.. and thats what I think theSTART is trying to get across.. You know, its theSTART to a new beginning of music, where people aren't afraid to just get up and dance. Respect & Love. Late.
Eyeless <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA -

the GLASSJAW album is absolutely amazing! Dudes, the Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack is sooo great(god i love that movie) I havent listened to it in so long...Ahhh memories from child hood..How...well its sort of pleasant...
Dean
Bowie, MD -

Nasiest hangover? Oops, I meant nastiest.
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

Helloooo... I went to see Pitchshifter last night, they were really good from what I can remember! You can bet your bum I woke up with the nasiest hangover this morning, I've named it "La Rage". I'm not usually one for giving my hangovers a name, but this was so huge I thought it deserved one...!!!
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

God i'm exhausted.I got three hours sleep last night, and i've been falling asleep in my tutorials. AND this afternoon i've got to show a group of prospective students round the University, and I have NO idea what i'm gonna do. Ah well. Never mind. Jen, I leave uni next week for X-mas, then I have exams when I come back, so I guess anytime after the 20th of Jan is good. Mail me if you want to sort anythuing out, or if you want, wait till there's a gig you wanna see at Rock City , and you can crash here afterwards. Mmmm, Pitchshifter in February........
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

hello jeff! i'm sure he'll do a wonderful job otherwise they wouldn't have picked him. anyway - the_lugubrious_game - maybe the music is supposed to speak to us all differently. one person can pull this outta a song while another can pull that outta a song. maybe just maybe...they want you to dance! hehehe. "And DANCE FOR GODSAKE DANCE! ~Echo" you could sit here and discuss what the message, have the band answer the question, but why not just try to pull your own message out of it? that's just my input. i've been deprived of sleep too long. nite nite everyone. take care. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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malcolm > when do you want me to come visit? i finish uni next friday and then i have xmas parties to go to and then i'm working, so it looks like its gonna be some time in january! Tim, of course aimee wrote it about herself! why else would she write a song with that title! not that i'm saying she has a huge ego, cos i met her once and she was nice, so yeah...i'll shut up now!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

Whoa. I just got back from Soulfly. Marcello was cool, and the gig was pretty funky, but Glassjaw were AMAZING! They were some of the nicest, most enthusiastic people i've met, and they really put on a good show. Some of those tracks were so beautiful. I gotta get that album......unless anyone has it and wants to be a sweetie and mail me MP3's? :o)
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

hallo all. i thought that since i'd been watching the speakout for awhile, and thought that now would be a good time to say 'hi' and whatnot... so hi and whatnot. of course i'd also like to give homage to some of my favorite human beeings, aimee and the gang. so i sit here and toast my steaming bowl of ramen noodles to them. in the meantime, i thought i'd add some things about bands that influenced me to be who i am today. 1. soulfly, because max helped me figure out some things like what it means to have belief, faith, etc. with or w/out a god. 2. deftones, becuase chino just blew my world away the first time i heard them. 3. weezer, because i could relate to the sad love songs about always getting the shit kicked out of your heart. 4. nirvana, for helping me with the depression/suicide issue when i needed a 'helping hand' 5. placebo, for embracing things just because they feel right... that's all for now. i hope to see all you someday.
Useful Boy <hains@cc.wwu.edu>
bellingham, wa der usa -

someone i know, eh? that's a relief. here i was worried it was someone i DONT know. oh yeah, i fucked up. the album is called "who do we think we are" not "my woman from tokyo", thats the name of a song on that album. and...umm...emi, i deleted the mail you sent me accidentally so go ahead and send it again if ya want. there was something else i was gonna say but it completely evaporated from my thought process. ah well, it'll come to me...
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Dear Eyeless, thanks for the two cents. I guess we all need role models, idols and someone to worship...they say no person is an island...damn is that true! I just sometimes wonder if the people who are guiding us and inspiring us know where the hell they're going and how to sail this ship anyway! God...don't you hate enigmatic people???
the_lugubrious_game
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i was just wondering if Echo wrote the song "Gorgeous" about herself because good god thats exactly what she is. Rock over London. Rock on Chicago. Mattydale, town of champions.
Tim Seib <bboyytimk@hotmail.com>
Syracuse, NY US mutha fuckin' A -

One more thing..actually two, I would first like to welcome Jeff to 'theSTART'... Secondly I want to comment on the meaning of 'theSTART' or the lyrics at least that is.. Maybe the lyrics may not touch some people on a personal level, but if you think about it.. Some people relate and as long as a few people may be touched in some way by the music, thats all that should matter. Respect & Love.Late.
Eyeless
Anaheim, CA -

Just to let you people in cali know...Downset have regrouped and will be playing a special show on Sunday Dec. 10th at the Whisky in Hollywood.
Eyeless
CA -

hey everybody :::waves::: hey there jeff congrats :::thumbs up::: i have a HORRIBLE headache right now and my poor astigmatismic(i hope thats a real word)are kinda watery maybe its becuz we had a gas leak in my skool today but of course we didn't find that out til 40 minutes before skool was over anyway. well it seems that the Christmas season is on a roll and frankly im scared and annoyed i could go into a "how Christmas is all materialistic blah blah" speech but no.If you wanna hear that just go see "The Grinch" it had good imagery and a decent plot but the meaning is absolutely lost to me. "Christmas isn't about toys" yeah nice message but I'll remember that while I look at The Grinch waffle iron(yes it does exist) and all the other merchandise for it. Am i the only one that remembers that Christmas is a time when you chop down a tree,get into brawls with moody housewives over the last cool toy of the year..i guess it Pokemon this year,finds the brightest,tackiest and colorful decorations for your house or whatever so you can embarass the neighbors,invite the family over half of whom aren't on speaking terms but every year you love to see who's the first to throw a punch,cry,or have a nervous breakdown all the while you're standing back throwing back shots of that "special egg nogg",then after while everybody forgets what they were fighting for and leave utterly confused,you're alone completly blasted from that egg nog you stumble around singing "Silent Night" at the top of your lungs and off key,pass out under the Xmas tree,wake up next morning,battle that yuletide hangover,and then open the presents. Its the circle of life young Simba...Man,I love Christmas every year its so much fun! hehe now im done bye all for now ::::::::waves:::::::
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
milford, CT merica -

Yup, I saw em with Orgy for my first time, also. 3 times so far...and a million more to come.
Alex <>
Tustin, CA 92705 -

Hey Puke! Guess who I am.. lol.. this is so funny
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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yellow, i'm sad, bored and tired. I need theStart, what is everyone's first experience with them? Like my first is when they opened or Orgy, AMAZING.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca USA -

Woo! We have an update, thanks Jamie, and hi Jeff! :-) the_lugubrious_game, maybe there IS no message to theStart, maybe it's just music for music's sake. Sure, the lyrics are personal to Aimee, but a message for us all? I don't know, I don't really think about it, but whatever it is, it works, and I for one like it!
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

Who the heck is Jeff Jaeger? Anyway puke, thanks for the insights once again. You seem like a very intelligent person. As far as where you may know me from: you wouldn't! We've never met anywhere, at anytime. I've just heard about you. But then you may ask, "Well, from who?" Let's just say it's someone you know...
the_lugubrious_game
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im sitting at my math teachers desk in school right now. no wonder this guy has an inflated ego....hahahahahah...what the hell is this stuff going on at my desk...the last 11 words were contributed graciously from mr. s. himself, the mighty shack-fu of algebra 2. anyway...JEFF huh?!? what are his credentials? how can we TRUST him?!?! dont you all SEE?!?!? he might very well be one of THEM....or, he might be a chill guy, but at this point, who knows. FUCK ergonomic keyboards. laters
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Erm,m, yeah, Hi Jeff. (Damn, my plan has been foiled. I'll never get in the band now.....Unless..* So Jeff, when are we gonna do the acid drinking contest? You mean they haven't told you? Oh? Let me explain. Every new member has to prove their dedication to the band by drinking a vat of Sulphuric acid. Shall we say next week? Cool....(Mwahhahahahahaha) Seriously, cool that you're in the band, and early next year...WOO HOOO!!! Oh, and Deep Purple are OK, Why do people not get it?
Metal Malcolm
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i just like to say hello to y'all, and my ruin and suga coma were amazing last night (monday) i managed to get a hug and kiss off tairrie and then i was invited back on to the bus, then we went to the Ritz (rock club) it was good, but not as good as meeting aimee at the ozzfest! ooh, and by the way hello jeff! well done fo becoming an official member!
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
m/cr, uk -

welcome aboard, jeff. you're more talented than the watermellon and me put together. and, oh yes, i love your alcohol. i thought you looked familiar but it didnt occur to me until i saw your last name. you look better without the antlers. okay, now i'm REALLY done...
~puke~ again (a.k.a. "dry heave")
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where did i leave off? eight? okay then... #9 - deep purple "my woman from tokyo" & "perfect strangers" (a tie). every time i try to talk to someone under the age of 40 about deep purple i'm either met with ridicule or vacant stares, so i'm not even going to explain this one. #10 - the smashing pumpkins "siamese dream". now-a-days the name of this band conjurs up stories of heroin, cocaine, and courtney love's vagina. but i always think about some of the people that i've met as a result of mutual admiration for the pumpkins. okay, i'm done now...
~puke~
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ahhh, so you've heard of me? goodness, that makes me feel special. well, my take on the whole thing is rather simple. as far as the song "gorgeous" goes i think that you cant judge the song by its words alone. it's assembled in a superior lyrical format compared to the status quo of the current music world (i.e. "who let the dogs out", etc.) but aimee's lyrical endowments are not being questioned, their substance is. it might appear to some as being lackluster subject matter, but it speaks of the meeting of 2 people. the full story of the two is not told, only a fragment of time. it could possibly be the most important meeting of that person's life, like when tyler durden meets...well...tyler durden in fight club. it may not seem all that profound on its own, but to the person singing it (or listening to it) it could mean A LOT. until there's a lyrics sheet on front of me i wont be able to comment on many other songs, but i will - if needed - do so in the future. and where might i know you from, loogie? just curious... ciao, dawg
~puke~
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Hi there Jeff!!!! *waves* :) MM- ooooo!! I met marcello in jan. last year.. What a sweetie!! Have fun!! Laurrraaaa
LauRRRa <fable@writeme.com>
syd, oz -

Hey, Jamie...can you explain to me what is the message behind the Start? No one seems to know.
the_lugubrious_game
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Hey, thanks puke for the helpful insights. I liked your top 10 songs that changed your life. Unfortunately I don't have any of the written lyrics to any of the Start's songs nor of any HWP songs. From what I heard from the song Gorgeous, it seems she's singing about pouring honey on someone and making them sweet. Well, at least that's all I could decipher. Anyway, what do you think is The Start's message? By the way: are you the infamous Sir Puke-a-lot? Just curious. And thanks for the kewl nickname: "loogie". We're both named after things that can project out of the mouth and nose. Interesting...
the_lugubrious_game
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Oh yeah, I would like for everyone to say welcome to Jeff Jaeger, our new bassist, as he is now an official member of theStart!
jamie
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Hi sorry it's taking forever,we just recorded two brand new songs,"SHAKEDOWN", and "HER SONG" and re-tracked guitars and bass for "HANG ON ME" and "GORGEOUS".The record will be remixed and remastered in the next two weeks and the first single will be out beginning of next year. The record will be out soon after that.It takes forever for all the business of switching record labels to be finalized and we are sorry it's taking so long, not to sound cocky but it's worth the wait.If yor waitng for a change of the guard... well the road to Icaria awaits. thanks for being patient.
jamie
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The guy has a point, Human, can you at least give us an update? Even if it's just "Nuthin's up", it would be nice to know were not missing out on anything. My Ruin and Sugarcoma were great at the weekend too. Oh, and I NEED SERIOUS HELP! I was supposed to be interviewing Mikey from soulfly tomorrow. Unfortunately, Roadrunner have decided that It's gonna be Marcello. I've just thrown out half my questions. Anyone goty any suggestions? Just post up here, or mail me, by (UK time) 2:00 tomorrow if you can. Thanks
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

WHERE THE HELL IS THE DAMN ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M TIRED OF WAITING FOR IT!! JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shawn <thrillbound@aol.com>
Fresno, Ca US -

#1 - nine inch nails "the downward spiral". i rented it from the library cause, at the time, the only nin album in my posession was the head like a hole single. now i dont know if any of you know the words to "the becoming" but it spoke to me in a way that i had never heard. it was my life being sung by a someone who never met me. #2 - tori amos "under the pink". this was the second tori album that i got but was the first one to move me to tears and can still do so to this very day. #3 - mr. bungle "disco volante". the musicianship on this album was better than just about everything else that i was listening to at the time, yet was completely different from any music that i had ever heard. #4 - the offspring "smash". this was the album i was listening to when i joined my first band. it made me want to be a rock star. #5 - depeche mode "black celebration". another album from the library. after i played it the first time i just couldn't get enough. #6 - incubus "s.c.i.e.n.c.e.". at the time i was into the deftones and korn and other similar bands, but i heard a tape of this album and it blew my mind. it's power mixed with versitility kicked korn's ass back to bakersfield as far as i was concerned. #7 - def lepard "pyromania". i was raised on 80's metal because my dad, at the time, was a homophobe. needless to say a lot of 80's pop music never entered my house unless it was the background score of a movie or something. "f-f-f-foolin" was my favorite song as a child. #8 - marilyn manson. my dad finally got over his homophobia and marilyn was the cure. the reason there's no album listed is cause i never bought a manson album. what actually changed my life was his book, which my father read before he bought it for me. since then he's never pre-judged my music tastes. i think i'm gonna stop here cause my fingers hurt... to be continued...
~puke~
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this is a test. this is only a test. 512 858 7955. this a test. we now return to our regularly scheduled program.
kidneythief...
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Jade.....i write poetry, im on poetry.com..look for Dean Sullivan....
Dean
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hmmmm...albums...Let me think..1)staind-dysfunction, i know i know, but this album just fuckin rocks, the lyrics mean alot to me and they convey alot of the things i feel, and i think thats what makes a good album,2) The Cure-disintegration/kiss me kiss me kiss me, the cure is the same way, and goddamn Robert Smith can rock the guitar!...3) Knapsack-this conversation is ending, i love knapsack, why did they break up!....4) Fugazi-13 songs, hell fuckin yes, good fuckin music straight outta maryland! One singer sounds like a reatard, and the other thinks hes sexy, can it get any better? 5)Boy Sets Fire-after the eulogy, i just got this album for my b-day, and its just absolutely awesome, they have no definite sound, and they are really good live 6) ZAO-where blood and fire bring rest and peace, christian hardcore with satan singing, YEAH! 7)HWP-e-lux, i always have to go back and listen to this album no matter if they are no longer a band and i saw them oh so long ago, its still awesome(aimee youre amazing) 8)Hooverphonis-the magnificent tree, really different stuff, saw em with BT and i had to buy the album, cant turn it off. 9)Tori Amos- its a tie between Little earth quakes and Boy For Pele, i mean winter and marianne are my favorite songs, but little earthquakes has Me and a gun, but Boys has Caught a light sneeza and talula, little has leather, SEE! I cant decide.....10) hmmmm......Nine Inch Nails-pretty hate machin, when trent was new and fresh, and didnt sound like fuckin skinny puppy.....Fuck downward spiral!
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

goddammit. i have to babysit tonight. if i never post again, then that means these 2 infernal succubi dropped me for good.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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ok...maybe now i have narrowed mine to a top ten...in no particular order...1. Portrait of an American Family---yes i understand your objections, be there any, but i bought this album when i was 10, and for a kid that age, an album like that would definitely have an impact...2. Clutch---i first heard this album during an acid and mescaline binge my freshman year of high school, and, well, i dont know if any of you have ever given clutch a good listen, but their music serves as a hallucinagenic in itself. some friends and i drove around in a big cargo utility van and got lost on the deserted northern outskirts of austin with this album, and "spacegrass" in particular, on full volume. we somehow ended up on interstate 35 southbound for mexico 4 or 5 hours south of austin without any recollection of how we had turned around, and absolutely no memory of passing back through austin on our way down there. needless to say, an album like "clutch" on repeat for each of the 6 or 7 hours we spent that night lost in a bleak labrynth of county roads would indeed suffice an altered outlook on a certain experience in my life...3. HWP...i had never heard the estrogenical side of heartbreak, severance, etc...and the more abstract aspects of personal experience expressed in a way that i could adequately understand. that album was the emotional equivalent of a punch in the face. it followed close on the heels of 4. Snot...what can i say? i was running with a tagging crew, partying all night, mugging ravers, selling, buying, ingesting, imbibing every kind of drug i could eagerly get my hands on, and this album really served as one of those "life soundtracks" for that period of time. very, very punk. 5. Pitchshifter...speaking of punk, i was very into exploited, DK, subhumans, uk subs, us bombs, black flag, etc...etc...and had gracefully accepted that with very few exceptions (snot being one of them) punk was very, very dead, or at least it was never going to evolve. enter PSI...a band while, with all the samples and breakbeats, was un-d-niably p-u-n-k. it was the aesthetic, the attitude, its all there for them. 6. Aenima...this one goes without explanation, because everybody just GETS it with tool, even if they dont understand it, they GET it. 7. Mumbletypeg's "field of four"...this is a local austin band, and it's blasphemy that they arent signed yet. think of a bastard hybrid between janes addiction and the melvins; none of their songs follow verse-chorus-verse formula, and, well, theyre all completely nuts. COMPLETELY nuts. 8. 13th floor elevators. ive mentioned a lot of them these days...they put me back in 1968. very abstract acid headed shit. i recently found out a friend of mine, who has since moved to pennsylvania, was the lead singers daughter. craziness. 9. the doors. this is obvious. 10. a tie between the melvins and the jesus lizard. both bands that defy convention and are continuously putting shit out that gives my folks a headache and none of my other friends understand. gotta love those melvins and jesus lizards. my knuckles hurt. laters.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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1. SUBLIME(RIP)-"40oz to freedom": Sublime has a sound that makes you just need to flow to the beat and the teachings they have throughout the lyrics are timeless... 2.Mos Def- "Black On Both Sides": Finally an album that shows you must have heart and soul throughout your music or it just isn't music, it has opened up the spiritualness inside me.. 3.Blackstar-"Mos Def & Talib Kweli are...": An album which shows that their should be love throughout everything, no matter what race you may be and that instead of saying there's a problem, you should act on setting things straight.. the work is not done and happyness is the greatest goal. 4.Snot(RIP)-"Get Some": I was an alcoholic and my friend turned me onto this record and it just stuck in my head.. finally I picked the album up and I heard a song "tecato" that helped me realize that that I wasn't only hurting myself, but others as well. It also helped me see that I need to wake up before I destroyed myself. 5.KRS-ONE- "I Got Next": I recently picked up this album and it shows me a culture in which I've been searching for.. All my life I have yet to find a culture or religion I am part of and this album shows that the culture of hip hop is spiritualness, happyness, and how culture is merely not a thing you are a part of.. you are the culture and if you disrespect it, you are not of that culture.......... These are the reasons that these artists or goups that is has changed my life. I may not know them, but the lyrics show there deepness. Respect & Love. Late.
EYELESS <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
CA USA -

I have a question for all of you... the cds that you have listed that "changed your life", how have they changed your life? I was just wondering... I'm really musically oriented and well this could start some good conversation... Plus I think theSTART may want to know how "e-lux" or "get some" has influenced your lives. It kind of gives them a good feeling in what they do and why they do it. Respect & Love to you people. Late
Charles Mounce(EYELESS) <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

hey there people :::waves::: a few records that changed my life in no order are Our Lady Peace-Clumsy, Jimmies Chicken Shack-Pushing The Salmanilla Envelope, KoRn-self titled, Human Waste Project- elux, Live- Secret Samadhi(i live off it) Tool-AEnima, Goldfinger- Hang-Ups. there are more but I can't think of em and i'm sure Circles will join the list. Bye for now ::::waves::::::
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
CT merica -

Woo! Happy birthday Hyp!!! I don't know if any albums have really changed my life, there's lots of them that I absolutely adore for one reason or another, I guess if I had to choose some, they'd be Nirvana's "Nevermind", Hole's "Live Through This" and Human Waste Project's "E-Lux"! Love and Jellytots...
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

happy birthday to me...uh...not really. i'm celebrating on my own at the moment. my parents aren't home, nobody is awake yet and yeah it isn't much fun. oh well - hopefully the day will pick up. anyway - albums that have changed my life?? hmm...korn - korn (man i got that way back at the start (hehe) of '95 and i still worship that album). from way way way back in the day...pearl jam - ten (still a tight album after all these years). snot - get some (who couldn't be changed after the honesty in this album?) , hwp - e-lux (so wonderful...a life soundtrack) , tura satana - relief through release (another life soundtrack that kicks ass) , staind - dysfunction (says so much that we all have problems saying) , taproot - gift (this was the soundtrack to my life for a couple months) and i think that's about it for now. i know there are many more albums that have come and gone, some changed my life some haven't but the ones above are the ones i will remember forever.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Well, I can't name a cd thats changed my life.. There are many. So I'll name five in no particular order.. 1. SUBLIME(RIP)-"40oz to freedom" 2.Mos Def- "Black On Both Sides" 3.Blackstar-"Mos Def & Talib Kweli are..." 4.Snot(RIP)-"Get Some" 5.KRS-ONE- "I Got Next"<-- I just got this one, but I have a feeling its going to have an effect on my life. As for the lyricist or poets that are on here.. I am one myself. If you want to read some of my stuff, E-mail me and I'll give you a website or tell you what books to look in. Anyways, Respect & Love to you people. Late.
Charles Mounce(EYELESS) <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

Anyone write poetry, by chance?
Jade <vampirejade@hotmail.com>
Columbus, Oh U.S.A. -

oh, and does anyone else who is still in or close to high school hate the way they send "interim progress reports" home in the mail, and how your parents read the seemingly clerical error and want to castrate your sorry ass? yeah its safe to say my weekend is effectively fucked. god dammit. i think i will begin my winona ryder marathon ALL over again, because i need a good fix to get me through this demented ordeal. fuck.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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damn thats a hard question to answer. the first album i ever owned was stone temple pilots' core...that was when i was around 8 or so, and ive wanted to BE scott weiland ever since...marilyn mansons' portrait album was and still is great...even if he's dry humping the david bowie cash cow nowadays...clutch's self titled album was a gem for me...hmmmmmm...ill prolly change my mind in a few, but for now, those will suffice...pink floyd, doors, and 13th floor elevators came along a little later, and with a way i am, several more are bound to come along in the future that will undoubtedly change the way i look at music. that's just...too tough a question to anwser with a once-and-for-all demeanor, so just...keep in mind mine is subject to change by the virtual minute.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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hey, lugie... have you gotten any transcripts of theSTART's lyrics? it might help you out a little bit ya know...
~puke~
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yeah I know, I know...I pressed that little refresh button until it was crying for mercy...sometimes modern technology isn't always reliable. Anyway, no one cares to tackle my question? Well, I guess only Ms. Echo can really answer it fully...
the_lugubrious_game
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I'm going home on the 13th, back up on the 8th of Jan hopefully. See ya then I guess. Mail me if you wanna sort out more. As for records changing your life, probably "...And Justice for all", coz it made me realise that Metal Wasn't all just noise. That or "The spagghetti Incident" which was my first Rock LP, or "Roots" coz It made me realise you can still piss off you're Parents. And of course Circles, when THE DAMN THING GETS RELEASED!!!!
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

Malcolm > i'll wait then, mail me when you're going home! charles > i'm fine gotts prepare for the my ruin gig on monday, gotta buy clothes and things, and i'm also working so that will give me money for monday!!! I have a question to ask everyone, which album that you own has changed your life completley? mine is AC/DCs Back in Black! don't ask why its a long story
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

yeah...joe c croaks, so whats the world coming to? i know i sound heartless, but i always adored the little bastard. i never really understood what exactly it was that he DID in twisted brown trucker, but he was always the highlight for me. any band that would tote around a drunken, mohawked little person that rapped and flailed around on stage with a bunch of strippers and insidious white trash metal heads was alright in my book. even if their music wasnt all that great. joe c, RIP.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Hey Jen, feel free to come over whenever! I'm at The Uni though, so you might wanna wait until I get back after christmas! ;o) As for me Charles, I is fine. Got a BIG party this weekend. My Ruin gig, then all night celebrity party at Rock City till 6am. Oh, and then Soulfly/Glassjaw on Tuesday and an interview with Mikey Doling. Can ya see me grinning! Can ya? HAHAHAHA!!! Ahhh, life is good. Now all I gotta worry about is the course work due in the wednesday morning....oops..... Anyone here any good at programming for a maths degree? ANYONE? Sorry, haven't slept in 32 hours and unlikely to sleep for another 20, unless Narcolepsy takes over........
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

The speakout has been dead lately... where has everyone gone?... anyways, Here's a question addressed to everyone, including the band.. in hope to start up the convo.. Hows everyone beend doing?.. Not many people ask that question anymore.. so their you go. Respect & Love. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

the_lugubrious_game - No not paranoia, it's called the refresh button!!
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malcolm: it's not my birthday yet. saturday is though. and right now everyone is going crazy and making plans for it and i'm not even in the mood to celebrate it. oh well. thanx though :) byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Malcolm you convinced me! we have Jillys Rock World! which is kinda the same! where do you live then, i'll stay with you for a bit! I'd just like to say thati hope Joe C rests in peace...i read that he had died and i'd just like to say that he will be missed by all Kid Rock fans!
Jen Jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
M/CR, UK -

oh...nevermind...must have been paranoia...
the_lugubrious_game
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Hyp, am I reading that correctly? Is it / Was it your Birthday? ALL TOGETHER NOW... "Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you, Happy Birthday Dear Amanda, Happy Birthday to yoooooooooooo" :o) Sorry if I got that wrong.....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

hey everyone! anyone out there like linkin park?? i saw them last night! they were awesome live. really nice guys too, let us in to watch their soundcheck and even got us into the show!! damn those 19+ shows here in canada when you're not 19. i hate that venue. hopefully when theSTART make it here they won't be playing the horseshoe tavern in toronto. who hates shitty venues?? anywayz i'm tired. after a day full of fun, barely any sleep and then going to skool, still not being able to sleep and hearing everyone go crazy over your birthday when you don't really care - i need to crash. take care everyone. byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Since I've been missin in action I thought i'd drag everything back a few steps. 1 Faith No More 2 Mr Bungle 3 Fantomas (I love Mike Patton) 4 theSTART 5 HWP 6 Joni Mitchell 7 Terrorvision (cheesy yes but fun yes!) 8 One Minute Silence 9 Deftones 10 Glassjaw. I could carry on forever and yeah I've seen a few of my ten before but they're there because they are well wprth seeing again!! love you all alexa
Alexa <lexaplexa@hotmail.com>
UK -

I saw on Shoutweb that "Circles" will be out on February 27th,2001(my b-day). I know that the release dates have been and still are being tossed around, but that'd be cool if that happened...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA -

I MISSED THE TROUBODOR SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did the shirts look like? (heard there were going to be some)
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca USA -

hey, what gives? I wrote a splendid master piece and it didn't even get posted...I smell a conspiracy...
the_lugubrious_game
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alright, alright...i know i'll probably be pellted with rotten tomatoes, pebbles, flax mouthwash bottles, comet cleanser cans and a wide variety of edible and non-edible foodstuffs, but I must ask the question: what is the substance in your music? What I mean say is: what is the message; what is the point? These days modern music is just so...commerical and empty. There's no substance. I hear you wanting us to spread and promote your music, but what exactly are we promoting? Hey, hey...settle down kids! I ain't here as no antagonist! It's just an innocent question, but I know I am taking risks by even putting this question out there. I guess I just like s u b s t a n c e. And hey, who wouldn't? Once a person told me, when I asked why most music has no message or substance, they told me: does it really have to? Well...I guess not in the highest sense...Art for arts sake...but is there really anything great with a canvas painted black? Is it really "original" after the 100th time? So is it any wonder or acheivement in just another band, playing the same four chords and doing and saying the same old thing and playing just for the hell of it? We are starved for substance. Everything in this world is so pale and shallow. From what I've seen, Ms. Echo, you are encouraging us to be free thinkers and to speak out on what we believe. This is definitely refreshing and much needed. You say the things we put out come back threefold...a Wiccan maxim, tried and true. We definitely need more love in this world.
the_lugubrious_game
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god i am so devastated...i just found out one of my favvorite bands, whom i LOVE...CLUTCH...just played here 2 days ago and i never even knew it. im always the one that finds out about this shit ahead of time...whats happening to me?!?!? im slipping in my old age...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Ahhh, poor Jen. Come to Nottingham if you like. It still rains, but we have Rock city and the old angel, so it's not so bad. Oh, and my Uni bar is �1 a pint. Did I convince you? ;o) Actually maybe that should be ;o') since I got my nose pierced.....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottm, UK -

Has anyone heard of the group 'ACID BATH'.. They sound like a mix of hardcore with alice in chains, but with better vocals..If you haven't heard them, check em' out. They recently changed into a david bowie/ozzy group called 'Agents of Oblivion'. So check em' out. Respect & Love. Late.
Charles Mounce(Click here to find out about Acid Bath) <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

Please someone save from the hole that is manchester! whisk me off somewhere nice! preferably with no rain! thank you!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

I AM SOOOOO F*$@ING MAD!! The day that theSTART played at the Troubador, guess where I was? ACROSS THE F$#%ING STREET!! I was at the Key Club watching my friend's band play at an IndiFest thingy. I sooo wish I had known, I would've been in heaven, watching all these rad bands... but anyway yeah if anyone knows where they're gonna play next and when, please give me a buzz. Take care my brothers and sisters! ~Ruby
Ruby <rubygirl@cyberbabies.com>
Huntington Beach, CA USA -

I'm coming back........ I been slacking with my site and the cult, but I'll be back in the game soon.
Anne B <ajba88@mizzou.edu>
Saint Louis, -

My dad know's Mike's dad. i don't really know much about this band, except that they use to be Snot. Ok bye
Randi <goddessof_fire609@hotmail.com>
USA -

so, mikey was replaced by a watermellon, eh? i'm sure it had an impressive resume and all, but didn't someone over look the fact that it has no hands?! thats why i think i should take the watermellon's place. although it may have one up on me in the intelligence department, i actually have hands. no contest, right?
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NEW CLUB - JOIN!!! Hey! I just started a new club for all the girlies in bands, or going solo, playing heavy music! I admittedly may not be a fan of all of them, but they're all doing something pretty cool, so they deserve to be talked about! :-) Anyhow, come over and join at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/badgirlsgotohell or click on my name! Thanks! Bronagh.
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

i was watching an old SNL episode Darlene from Roseanne was hosting (i think her real name is Sara Gilbert but im not sure) anywoo the Counting Crows were performing and i thought if Downey had dreads he would be able to pass for Adam Duritz..and also John Cusack with dreads could kinda look like Jon Davis...i was going back and forth from this hard rock station and this opera station the other nite and i heard Godhead they kinda sounded like Deadsy...ok thats enough comparisons for me now....
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
CT merica -

i like what has been done to the first couple of pages of the site, its quite funny! and what the hell is that watermelon for???? and when the album is actually out, are you guys gonna tour over here?
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

i like what has been done to the first couple of pages of the site, its quite funny! and the hell is that watermelon for???? and when the album is actually out, are you guys gonna tour over here?
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

so has anyone actually heard anything about the new album? i'm beginning to think everyone in the world has died and i'm the only one left alive. but that's ok. becuase i have acid bath... yes...
Mr. Freeze <hains@cc.wwu.edu>
that on place, in usa -

kneecaps first? no no no, man. then you run the risk of not being able to finish them off. then we'd have to deal with a bunch of parapedgic mall creatures, still ruling the charts, but just in wheel chairs. the only thing we would have effectively eliminated would be those annoying synchronized dance sequences in all their videos and tv appearances. thats not enough for me; id prefer them headless.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Hey Scott. I know it sucks, but at least you get Distubed and the Offspring. I don't think we even have that! We're lucky if a "Rock" song is in the top20. As for shooting them in the face, surely the Keecaps first. Make them suffer just like we do.. Oh, and YAY!!! I'M interviewing Soulfly Next Week!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! *Starts bouncing off walls!!!*
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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i will now watch Less then Zero...in memorium. he aint dead yet, i know, but so much for the acting career at this point.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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hunni... sweetie... sugar plum.. who cares if downey got arrested? although it would be relevant if he got hit by a truck, thrown thru a wood chipper then bludgeoned to death. oohh i cant wait for the plane ride... i love aerooo planies.. i got ur christmas present today too.. you'll just love it.
alicia <venomousbeauty@hotmail.com>
CA -

god DAMMIT...downey got arrested AGAIN...cocaine and meth possession. fuck. see folks, as a proud video store clerk, its not WE whom sell the movies, it's the actors who sell the movies. and when good ones like downey fuck up over and over and OVER again, it makes me re-evaluate the worth of my profession. *sigh*...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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well, will ya look at that...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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to the start hi from down under,my friend and i run a rock/metal show and we have been getting endless requests for yous,we have looked everywhere for your music,but your music is nowhere to be found down here in the land of Australia. Thats why we where wondering could yous donate some of your talented music to our show,we would really apreciate your help,and Amiee we still play your old band(HWP) on our show it costed an arm and a leg to buy it but i was very happy with what i got.We still get heaps of requests for HWP.Thanx for hearing me out you can contact me through my friends email(howtina@bigpond.com)or the stations email(2bobfm@midcoast.com.au)or this address 31 stevenson street,taree,NSW,Australia 2430.please keep in touch!!!!!!!!!
The metal chamber(michael forbes) <howtina@bigpond.com>
Taree, nsw Australia -

lauren IS the fucking man. i was privelaged enough to have a beer with him "back stage" at the shack in anaheim after a famous show. it was so odd being able to look him in the eye and know that this man and his band mates started sixteen-o-five. if it wasn't for that, i dont know where i'd be now. has anyone else met lauren?
~puke~
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lauren boquette is the fucking man! i met him a limp bizkit show a couple of years ago and told him how a good friend of ours wasnt able to make it, seeing how she was in a coma after a horrid car accident. next thing i know, he comes strolling out from backstage with a silver adidas sneaker (dursts') autographed by every band member. lauren made our night. he won himself over about 50 loyal drown fans that night, too...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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yep...meeeeee to...meeeeeeeeee tooo...jamie's got something...you guys wanna start doin weekly top 10 lists? sort of a high-fidelity kinna thing...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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list #1 - the 90's (groups i've never seen): tori amos, tool, human waste project, snot, and drown. i didn't see tori amos when she came around last. i was broke at the time, but my friends told me all about it... i have never seen her live. tool are amazing but i've never seen them either. i never saw human waste project or snot cause i fucking missed ozzfest 98 and prior to that... well, i was 16 with no license and a mother that worries WAY more than humanly possible. i wish i could have seen drown too. i've seen Famous about 3 times but it doesn't make up for it.
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I like plan B
scott
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this looks like fun can i have a go.... 1) HWP 2)Coal Chamber 3) KoRn (i love jonathon the best) 4) Marilyn Manson 5) My Ruin (going to see them soon) 6) Flaming Lips 7) Foo Fighters 8) Sex Pistols 9) Black Sabbath 10) Radiohead...so there you all go! theStart would be on it but i don't have the album yet, they will be though when i get the album!!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

this is cool, my ten bands would be 10.The Who(67'-77')9.The Pretenders 8.Killing Joke 7.Siouxsie and the Banshees 6.Prince and the revolution 5.Buzzcocks 4.Missing Persons 3.U2 2.The Police 1.The Beatles I'll leave 10 more each week
jamie
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I'm trying to learn a bit about dark gothic stuff in London and Paris. one girl I know told me a little bit about a goth party she ended up at one night in London,
Kurt <robriziug@gurlmail.com>
Lincoln, NE 68508 -

I forgot some major people I want to see.. so, I'll make my list into 20 bands... 11. The Clash(Joe Strummer is superb)12.TOOL 13.AFI/rancid(Next Weekend!!!) 14.KRS-1 15.Cradle of Thorns 15.PJ Harvey w/ Thom Yorke(Hopefully will happen..) 16.Mos Def 17.Orange9mm 18.Mr. Bungle 19. Violent Femmes 20.Sugar Ray(In the Lemonade&Brownies Stage..)... Theirs alot more, but I have things to do.. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

and you know i cant wait, ali...*smooch*
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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yeah, scott, but if the guy hadnt gone and offed himself, i for one, dont exactly think things would be this way. people take for granted how much impact one album has...think if there was no nevermind in this decade...what if nirvana was gone before in utero was released? etc...etc...oh well. it gives us all a task---either give the good music BACK to the people, and send all these godawful mall creatures back to the food court that spawned them, or we simply resort to plan b, which includes something along the lines of dragging members of all these wal mart candy groups out into the street and shooting them all in the face. both solutions are possible, and both are, in the end, tolerated (and most likely encouraged) by john q public at this point. IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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1.Backstreet Boys 2.Hanson 3.Celine Dion 4.Christina Aughhhulara 5.Disturbed 6.Offspring 7.98 degrees 8.Verticol Verizon 9.Ricky Martin 10.NKOTB---------------------------- You see, kURT kOBAIN saw this coming, I don't blame him for doing what he did.
-s
los angeles, ca -

malcolm: jpegs work best.
hyp <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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awh tairrie posted on this board a long time ago.. i wuv her.. i saw my ruin perform @ the whisky before they went far far away to europe.. one of the best shows i've ever seen.. the start performance was superb as well @ the troubadour.. oh and nick... only 3 more weeks till my lil plane ride to ur neck of the woods..
alicia <venomousbeauty@hotmail.com>
ca -

Wait!!! I have 4 more bands that I want to see... 7.)Nirvana 8.)Motley Crue(back in the '80s) 9.)Sepultura(with Max) 10.)7 Year Bitch...Okie, sorry I had to post again...
Lorie
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Ooohhh...This is what I want to see 1.)White Zombie(could've gone to see them back when I was 12, but nooo) 2.)Human Waste Project 3.)Snot 4.)Victims in Ecstacy 5.)Tura Satana/Manhole 6.)Dead Girls Corp
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

Oops, and yeah, good idea Malcolm! :-)
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

Ooo, that reminds me, I got my ticket for Pitchshifter yesterday, YAY! :-D
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! HAPPY BIRHTDAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME! Yes yes i know, none of you care, but hell i do...Im the big 1-6 today...woop dee fuckin doo....As to the bands..... 1)Bjork 2)Tori Amos 3)theSTART(get your asses to Maryland!!!) 4)Knapsack(awesome fucking band) 5) Sunny Day Real Estate (back in their "diary" days) 6) and Fugazi (back during "13 songs")....and i really cant think of anyone else. I think todayis gonna be a good day though...one its my b-day and 2 my band has a SHOW! how awesome is that shit!
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
bowie, md -

FUCK you and your pix man! the MAN cant know who i AAAAMMMM, dont you SEEEEEEE??!?!!?? ITS AAAAALLLL OVER PEOPLE!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! LOL j/k...i mean, you know, sure, Malc, good idea man...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Okay, This is just a suggestion, and I simply want to know what people think. I've just come from the Pitchshifter Message Board (Yeah, i've been unfaithful, I admit). A guy on there has created a yearbook on his site where all the regular posters can put photos of themselves. The idea is that when you start talking to people, you have some idea of what they look like. If you want an idea of what I mean, go to www.angelfire.com/band/phoenixology/fanyearbook.html How about doing one for this board? Threre's enough of us to make it worthwhile, Hyp, KT, Me, Linds, Starlashes, Luxy, Jen etcetcetc. I could probably host it on My site, and if people have got pics of themselves on the net already all I have to do is link to them. Whaddya Think? Let me know, I want to know i'm gonna get enough people first. Oh, and Hyp, What kinda pics work best on Homestead, JPEG, bmp, gif,? C yall soon. Malcolm
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

Ohhh this looks like fun. Let me try... 1) JACK OFF JILL (I've seen them once...their last show EVER. And once just isn't enough.) 2) Ms. Scabtree (an old project with all the old Manson members and Jessicka from Jack Off Jill) 3)Marilyn Manson (Oh come on...I've never seen him live. But soon!!! On the 13th of January!) 4) Human Waste Project 5)Hole 6)White Zombie 7)Nirvana 8) Stone Temple Pilots 9) Madonna 10) Orgy (yeaaaa I know I've seen them 4 times already...but I can't get enough.)
Linds <XSTARhalo@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

Hmmm... I think we are only including the bands we never saw or haven't seen live yet: 1. TheStart 2. Tori Amos 3. Genitorturers 4. My Ruin 5. Videodrone 6. Driver 7. Hydrovibe 8. Guano Apes hmmmm.... cna't think of anymore... brain in cold.. lol
Glittery Kerry
NJ, -

THE KINKS! THE KINKS TOO!!! ok ill stop now...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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oh, and Parliament/Funkadelic! god how could i forget?!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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what about the start? scott? aimee? what about you guys? what about human? c'mon this heres a PARTY god DAMMIT.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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shit i already need my list revised: somewhere in there, i would like to have seen the Melvins (circa '84), Monterrey Pop fest '68 (that right there takes care of a lot: hendrix, the who, joplin, etc...), and to have been one of the people to have had actually seen the Ramones' last show must've been fucking cool...and defintely, TOM WAITS, oh my GOD, he should have been up on my list right next to nick drake, even though he aint dead quite yet. lastly, i would give anything, ANYTHING in the world to have ridden the rails with woody guthrie circa 1931...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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OOOH,OOOH, CAN I PLAY? Well 1) Nirvana - coz I never did see them 2)HWP 3)Alice in Chains 4)Nurse or Infernal love era Therapy? 5)theSTART (C'mon. c'moooooooooooon!) 6)The Wildhearts 7) Jeff Buckley 8) Pre www.com Pitchshifter 9) Radiohead 10) Soundgarden. Very difficult. I tried to choose bands who I couldn't see again. I'd need at least 20 to be happy though. Oh, and kt, why should I be careful? Surely other people should be careful around me! I have a habit of bouncing up and down at random. Can be dangerous!
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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Hmm...interesting thought: 1] Nirvana, 2] theStart, 3] Human Waste Project, 4] Hole (circa "Pretty on the Inside and "Live Through This"), 5] Alice in Chains, 6] The Doors, 7] White Zombie, 8] Rachel Stamp, 9] Sex Pistols (preferably before they got old!!!) and 10] One Minute Silence. That was a tough choice, I'll probably change my mind about it a million times, but #1 will always be Nirvana!!!
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

kt...you said MOTHER LOVE BONE..so I salute you! i can't possibly do this list but MLB would probably be tops with Queen, Kate Bush, the Go Gos and Monster Magnet!
glittyk laura <glittyk@hotmail.com>
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hi everyone :::::waves::::: kidneytheif i salute your thanksgiving message slaughter first ask questions later. ok heres my top 10 list in no order 1.human waste project 2.snot 3. blind melon 4.sublime 5. black sabbath 6.manhole 7. drain sth 8.ratm ( i saw in november last year but i still would like to see them again) 9.videodrone 10. jimmies chicken shack with all the original members
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
milford, ct merica -

oh good question!! ummm. Ok - here goes... 1. theBeatles; 2. theStart; 3. PJ Harvey; 4. Rolling Stones; 5. Portishead; 6. Smashing Pumpkins; 7. GVSB; 8. Sex Pistols; 9. Garbage; 10. Moloko... There are tons more though. cheers, Fee
Fiona <fiona@startcircles.com>
London, UK -

Well this is easy.... 1.Sublime 2.SNOT 3.Bob Marley 4.Pink Floyd 5.HWP 6.The doors 7.Bad Brains 8.Black Sabbath 9.Grateful Dead 10.Nirvana.... But to bad these aren't likely, it sucks.. Anyways, I think the next 'START' show should be at Chain Reaction.. That would be good, Five minutes from my place. Just a thought.. I need to go to work and get killed by the peoples nagging... I hate peoples ignorance. Respect & love. Late
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

i want EVERYONES' input on this---if any of you folk could see one band/musician, living or dead, broken up or together...who would it be? my top 10 list, in no particular order: 1. Beatles, preferably in SF, their last official concert 2. Nick Drake 3. the Dead/the Doors (show in SF, 1967)... 4. Mother Love Bone, circa '89, Seattle... 5. HWP... 6. Snot... 7. 13th Floor Elevators, circa '68, Austin... 8. Black Flag/Subhumans show in '82, Raul's Club, Austin... 9. Sex Pistols... 10. Pink Floyd, dark side of the moon tour...these i just all had to squeez in together, somewhere...so many more...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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happy thanksgiving everyone! hope you all have a good time! Malcolm, are you not coming to the My Ruin gig in manchester, if you were we could have meet up aah, well in the words of Kurt Cobain..Nevermind!
jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
m/cr, uk -

malcom, dude...be careful man, thats all i gotta say, just be careful there...LOL
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Ok, i'm jealous. Ican't imagine being that close to the band, it must have been heavenly. Aimee, you looked Stunning. Oh, and I want a UK tour, and I'm gonna sulk till I get one! :) On another note, is anyone going to the Rock ??City all nighter/ My ruin Gig in Nottingham who wants to meet up? I can probably provide a floor to crash on if people are travelling. Mail me if you wanna. Malcolm
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

yes yes yes...today is the day where all us yanks come together to celebrate that one magical, joyous occasion, long ago, where we put aside our differences with the native savages, and feasted with them, sharing new insights and perspectives, loves, losses, forever altering the wat we looked at eachother's world...before we subsequently mercilessly slaughtered them in droves of millions over the next three centuries, and now, three hundred some-odd years later, we still celebrate that day, while those same native savages dwell graciously on their tiny, federally subsidized pockets of the worst, most un-fertile land on the continent, where clinical depression and alcoholism run rampant like children, and their casinos are raking in what they can...kiddies, id like all you to join me in a singalong, the ones who know it, to celebrate what we, as americans, are thankful for: this country. "my coooouuuntry, tiiiiiiis of theeeeeee, sweet land of liiiiiiiiberty, of theeeee i siiiiiiing"...amen
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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So what are all you guys thankful for? Im thankful for music and lots of other stuff that i take for granted all the time...Like my friends, they give me so much support and i never really notice how much theyre there for me(sniff)...I love my friends.....and my music...
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

Alex, i went on the link you gave but there was no pictures on it! i thought it was the computer i was using so i moved rooms and went on a different spec computer but it didn't work...try putting them on again!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

P.S.- If ya got time, write me a mail and tell me what ya think. I didn't want to use flash and blind em, but I think they came out OK. The scanner is what sucks bad. I will get someone to do it for me. That is why they all have those real little white dots, and both of Jeff's are all weird. Sorry guys, I meant to do em all good.
Alex
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Yes, I am a moron for not putting that in my last message.
Alex <>
Orange County, CA USA -

I took some live pics of theSTART show at the Troub from last weekend. Go here to check em out. They are all about 200k, so let em load. Sorry about the shitty scans. I will redo them as time goes on. -Alex
Alex <>
Orange County, CA USA -

ii-iiii lo-o-ove you! you! boo boo bee doo!
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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skinamarinky doo.....
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD -

skinamarinky dinky dink
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD USA -

Scott - I have been trying to e-mail Timmy, but the e-mail addy i had for him isn't working. How is he - can you say hi from me if you get the chance. Cheers, Fiona
Fiona <fiona@startcircles.com>
London, UK -

i'm really not keen on the new radiohead album, but i've got to admit i haven't really given it a chance. i've been too busy obsessing over vast. ; )
Kenickie
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the new radiohead album is alright, its nowt spectacular, is anyone in the uk going to see my ruin at manchester university? it would be cool to meet up with a few people!
jen
m/cr, uk -

pics were taken for the site... I know this cause someone needed to get in front of me at the show saying that he was taking pics for the official site. And I am going to try and get some pics up at the UnofficialSTART site. But for now, just wait... Much Respect&Love, Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.coim>
Anaheim, CA USA -

human...are you gonna post any live pix from the show? were any taken? scott posted that you were stuck at the merch booth all night, and youre the one who gets all the live pix...*whine* dammit. that just now occurred to me as i typed it. ah well. play more 13th floor elevators, you bastard stereo...or maybe some dylan for now. "and its aaaalll oooooooooooover now, baaaaaaaaaaaby bluuue" *poof*
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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i still listen incessantly to pablo honey, the bends, and ok computer. i got kid a and...well...i really dont know whether im insanely repulsed or if im in love with it...even though ive been listening to it a lot...i really dont know...i know now what people meant who heard it before me and the only word they could pin to it was "different". not a good "different", or a bad "different", just..."different". and they were all right.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Notmany posts the last few days. Is my comp screwed or have I missed something? Anyway, I just wanted to ask something, seeing as most of you are based in the US. What's been the general reaction to the new Radiohead LP? It's been a hot topic of discussion here, and I heard it was #1 in the US. Whad'y;all think of it? Malcolm
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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I want to buy stuff online!!! Por Favor...
Maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca US -

it seems frequent posters are made of two or three groups--- those that live IN L.A., see the shows, etc...and those that live overseas. and then me, stuck in some bastard nether-region of the innermost, bleakest depths of the armpit of america. if you guys tour, and DONT hit austin, and instead just hit dallas or houston, or even san antonio...well, i'll...i'll... i'll be really dissapointed, because thats about all i can manage.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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god dammit! i hate you all for going! it sounds like it wqas a good show, Metal Malcolm, we should club together and go over for the next one! then we wouldn't miss out!
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
m/cr, uk -

Hey you were great last night and it was cool to see you get up with PMM. How about a show with MY RUIN? Wow that would just be the ultimate fucking gig in LA! I would love to see our beautiful MISS ECHO on stage with MISS B for even a second. Can someone PLEASE OH PLEASE arrrange this? I am so into the STRAIT UP record but why in hell is MISS B not on it does anyone here know? I saw HWP and SNOT play with MANHOLE back in the day and it's a shame that LYNN is no longer with us but how in the world could they put COREY OF SLIPKNOT on that record and not MISS B? She was such a good friend of LYNN and he always got up and sang with MANHOLE. Well I will stop my complaining and say again that your all rocked the house like always!!!!love love love and stars! caroline x
CX666
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LINDSAY I WANT MY SHIRT!!!!!
Jen
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i hate you all.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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WOW that was one of the best shows!! im into TAPE they really need to get something recorded. ENEMY was very cool too. theSATRT~ words can't explain, YOU GUYS WERE AMAZING!!! I was so stoked that Aimee got up with PMM. it was very crazy but sweet to see Aimee & Jeff on the stage together, then the hug,i got a tear a happy one. PMM RAWKED those boys, damn there good. Well i had lots o fun. Can't wait to do it again. met some new people saw some old friends an AWESOME line up, who could ask for anything more. take care everyone xoxoxo*Angela*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
USA -

I realized that about ENEMYs' set as well.. vocals needed to be raised, but did however do an excellent show. As for TAPE, Aimee they are now my personal favorite band as well.. In other words I enjoyed their demo-nstration. PMM put on an excellent show.. I enjoyed the Aimee input as well... And must I forget theSTART, You couldn't have been better, good job and thanx for the excellent show. Also, hello to the people I met last night.. Plus one more thing, if anyone who went to the show last night would be willing to do a review for the UnofficialSTART website, email me with the review and I'll put it up. Anyways, Much Respect & Love.. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

first of all, that was the best show that i've ever seen at the troubadour. tape were terrific. the singer kinda reminded me of MCUD so that was pretty cool. i'd definitely see them again. enemy's set coulda been better but it seems that, at times, the sound man was too busy snorting angel dust and giving himself hand jobs to turn down the guitar or turn up the vocal. oh well. theSTART fucking owned that crowd and thats the way it should be. and, of course, i had to forget my goddamn tie... and i was soooo amazed when aimee made the GORE-geous refference. i took pictures as well. malcom, i saw scott smile TWICE but as soon as i got the camera to my eye it was gone. and what happened to the hwp one-song reunion that i specifically requested, hmmm? tempesta was there, i saw him. well, actually angela saw him and told me but i have a good enough imagination... anywho, i could ramble on forever but i wont. it was wonderful. *sigh* so i guess i'll just be at the next one, wherever it may be. neither rain nor snow nor sleet nor hail...
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You guys amaze me every single time I see you!!! The show was really incredible and Aimee you kicked sooo much ass singing "Does It Dream" with Murder Music!!! I seriously can't wait until you guys play again!!! I just wanted to come in and say that bye.
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

I'm really sorry if this pisses you off Aimee, but......Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh! That's so sweet! My mother never bothered to come to the last few shows I did. Of course, what this means is you'll have to do another show so that she can see you. She couldn't move to England could she? :o)
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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Aimees mom got stuck at the merch booth and missed the show, so she gets thw MVP for being such a trooper!
scott
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Bored bored bored.....Yeah, put merch online..I wanna sport theSTART stuff.Anything to show im a fan...
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
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Damn it another good gig missed! come play the UK soon Mikey
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
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"i tried for so many years, to stay uncomplicated..." God Aimee, i love you..hehe....."one day all of this will be mine" Yeah, sucks i cant see you guys live yet, seein as to how youve only played on the west coast.....Get that album out soon.
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
Bowie, MD USA -

you guys rawked tonight.pmm was cool too.i also though enemy was very good. was jessicka or tarrie b at he show?does anyone know? i was so hoping to see them because i have photos from my ruins last show but my friend told me they were not there and that i should give up looking. i took some kewl shots of the start too..will send soon..it was fun tonight and it would be so supa kewl is the start and my ruin played together...like old times in a way?
spaingrrl
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I just wanted to be the first to say...THESTART OWNED THE TROUBADOUR! God dammit! I got some funky fresh pictures that I will post ASAP! Aimee, you looked and sounded absolutely stunning. You performed "Glimmerman" especially great. Scott, you owned, but the drums seemed kinda low in the mix tonight :( (that's coming from another drummer) You still ruled, though. Jamie was so awesome, also. I was far away from ya, but you still rocked the house. And Jeff was super cool. He can jump really HIGH! Anyway, thank you all for an amazing night. I will put up those pics as soon as I get them back. -Alex
Alex <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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ya know, i think theSTART should do a cover song... don't do an 80s song though... do something from the 70s like something off of the rocky horror picture show... "touta-touta-touta-touch me... creature of the niiiiiiight"
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Hang on me,Communion,Melt,Gorgeous,Her Song,Nemesis,Glimmer man,Veil,Shakedown.
scott :-)
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well well, today is the day. it came a bit sooner than i had thought it would... and here i am staring at a myriad of plain color t-shirts just waiting to be transformed. i don't want to look all cheesy, though, 'cause all y'all are going to see me. ah, fuck it. first impressions are overrated anyway. besides, tonite isn't about me. VIVA theSTART!!
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Oh, and have a great time everyone. I hope the other bands rule. And I Wanna see photo's. Can anyone get me one of Scott Smiling? I want photographic evidence that it has happened. How about putting up the set list on the board? Later.
Metal Malcolm
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! *sniffle* I WANNA SEE THESTART!!! That's it, If you guys haven't toured here by next summer, I'm damn well coming over there myself! And I'll MAKE you play a gig! FOR ME! ALL BY MYSELF! Then I will take over your minds, and using theSTART as my puppets, I shall force my way into George W. Bush's family. I shall replace his fragrant wife, kill him, and I WILL RULE THE WORLD!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha.....erm, yeah, so you better tour......or something
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

Iam just so stoked about theSHOW its gonna be so AWESOME!!! you kids RAWK!!! LOVE FOREVER ALWAYS *Angela*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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thestart is a breath of fresh air. glad to see echo was on strait up, if even for a moment.
kj <kjinkinz@hotmail.com>
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helmet rules! "IN THE MEEEEEEANNNTIME!! IN THE MEEEEAAAANNNTIME!" woohoo!
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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I will see everyone(whos going) @ the Troubadour tomorrow... Until then, Much Respect & Love.. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

Well, I think we all agree that we NEED merch online. If this doesn't happen, feel free to purchase from www.suinggod.homestead.com, where some drunk student will throw together an item of clothing for cheap prices. Oh, and I just got the last Fiona Apple CD. Whoa. It seriously kicks arse. I've been dinking, if you can't tell already.....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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good luck with the show! it would be good to be able to purchase merch on here - until then i'll just have to settle with some homemade stuff. hehe. take care everyone. byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hey everybody goodluck at the troubadour you guys! oh and i would love to buy theSTART merchandise online shirts,buttons,pins yadda yadda im all about it. see ya'll later :::::::waves::::::::
brookie
milford, CT merica -

yeah...there was once a day when a naive punk from bumfuck, texas wanted a HWP t shirt...and he got it---right along with a blown radiator, a totaled '92 civic, and a record breaking three week case of pinkeye. *sigh* i know that child well. he has recovered fully, but is still wary of the consequences of meddling with things completely (or SEEMINGLY anyway) other-worldy that would have me *ahem* HIM owning such an article of clothing only on the condition that it would be over his own dead body. he has since gracefully retired the shirt from his wardrobe and it rests peacefully in a box somewhere in the black hole vortex that is his closet. *ROFLMAO*
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Oops, forgot to say, I'm definitely interested in buying merchandise online!
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

Aimee, Scott and Jamie: Break your legs on Saturday (not literally of course!)! To everyone who is going: Enjoy yourselves (though not too much or I'll get VERY jealous!) and spare a thought for us over the other side of the Atlantic! Love and Jellytots, Bronagh. xXx
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

I wanna T Shirt! i wanted a HWP one as well, but everytime i went to Afflecks Palace or The Colesium they were sold out, or they didn't have a clue who i was talking about! it would be great if i could order one off here!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Wear a t-shirt of any fashion with the words "the start" on it to the show @ the troubadour in Los Angeles 11/18/00 or (18/11/00 for overseas) and get in for five dollars. There will be "the start" t-shirts and buttons/badges/pins whatever you call them on sale at the show as well..............if you'd like to purchase " the start" merchandise online let them know here on the speakout!
it's true
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Wear a t-shirt of any fashion with the words "the start" on it to the show @ the troubadour in Los Angeles 11/18/00 or (18/11/00 for overseas) and get in for five dollars. There will be t-shirts and buttons/badges/pins whatever you call them on sale at the show as well..............if you'd like to purchase merchandise online let them know here on the speakout!
it's true
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i just saw and met poe the other night at borders...she was such a sweetheart. has anyone read House of Leaves? turns out her brother wrote it. he was there too, got him to sign my copy. if anyone has read and enjoyed that fucked up book, get poe's new disc---it ties in with the book on many themes. thrilling. anywho, i just finished my winona ryder marathon and quite frankly it took a substantial amount of the edge off of my life for the time being---heathers, squaredance, welcome home roxy carmichael, all the way up too bootlegged copies of autumn in new york and lost souls. yeah you could say i have a crush...LOL so now i have to go renew my liscence...the great white shark has not been driven in days and it's begging me for a delinquent spin around the world. "dodge swingah, nine-teen seventy-three, top down, chassis low...panel dim...light drive...jesus on the dashboard...t-minus whenevah it feels right...galaxie five oh oh...panets align...a king is born..."
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Yeah, best of luck for the show guys, although you don't need it. I just hope the other bands don't get too down when you blow them off the stage! Talking of which, if it's gonna be a while before any merch is available on the site, there wouldn't be any nice wonderful person willing to get me something from the show? Just a badge or stickers or something? Mail me if you can, I don't know about paying, but I can always trade? Thanks anyway, and I hope you guys can get here soooooon! <3 Malcolm
Metal MAlcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

i've kinda half assed been following your election thingy, and what aload of balls! why can't you have normal ballot papers like everyone else, and whats the deal with not being able to count votes by hand, we do it over here in the UK and its not illegal, its usually very successful and doesn't cause a big cuffuffle! that Bush guy seemed to have won though, but at least you don't have Tony Blair and the crap petrol tax raising wankrs of our government, its pathetic all of it ours and your government, wasn't Billy Joe from Green Day running for it, if i was american i would have voted for him!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

echo, jamie and scott- good luck with the show!!
lauRa <fable@writeme.com>
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Good point Maria... and hopefully things work out for the best. And I'll see everyone at the 'Troubadour'.. Last time I went their was last weekend for a band called Nekromantix.. they're a psychobilly band and they're cool guys.. check em' out and see you at the show. Late. -- Almost forgot.. Respect & Love for you people... once again, Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

Man oh man, I come to the board to see what everyone is saying about the show on Saturday, and all I read is this fighting. It's stupid, to say the least. We are on the message board of one of the best bands around, and all everyone can talk about is whole stole who from this band. Damn, it is the pre-school version of a message board. At least Miss B has the decency to try to bring things to a closure, which is probably both appreciated and respected by all. Everyone should just drop all the bullshit and start over, talking about theSTART!!!!!! Let's talk about some cool shit that everyone is going to experience in... 3 days and about 2 hours. Come on, everyone should be getting EXCITED! See you all there. -Alex
Alex <>
Orange County, CA USA -

I agree with brook, there needs to be a re-election becuase Bush winning if just a case of fraud, plus no one will be satisfied untill there is a re-election. How can we go on if some peoples votes arn't even counted? What's the point of voting if were not even listened to? Our vote is our voice and were being ignored! First thing we need is a re-election, 2nd- do away with the electorial colleges. Whats their point? to give smaller states more power? what for? votees are supposed to be individual, each persons decision, yet with these electorial colleges were not independent voters, were forced to vote with a group whos decision might not be the same as our own which means were not counted in the vote for president or all other national votes. BE COUNTED and PROTEST!!! Re-election 1st, do away with electorial colleges 2nd!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca U.S. -

Hi everybody!!! I am bored and it's cccooolllddd... Can't wait until Saturday nite *starts singing Bay City Rollers* Yes and I have to walk around with a gimp arm, but it's not stopping from going on Saturday...Anyways...just wanted to drop in and say hi and to see some of you on Saturday... Bye...
Popple Girl
Los Angeles, CA -

none at the moment
Rebecca <MaLorY187@aol.com>
Torrance, ca usa -

Sorry to here about all the bull going on this page. Have a good show this weekend
steph
baltimore, md -

I messed up on a word..deterimed = determined
Charles M.
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If Bush becomes president.. I'm not kidding when I say this either.. my sister and I have planned to get a petition started in order for a re-election.. I am very deterimed to keep Bush out of the white house and am very afraid of his antics. I just don't understand why he got so many votes, when he is clearly everything people don't want.... And "Circles" is set for a Feb. release date, here in the U.S. that is... I'm sure it will be released international around the same time. With Respect & Love. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

hi people Megan theSTART's cd isn't out yet we all have been anxiously waiting for it and one gorgeous(pun intended)day and we heretics can flood the streets with our cds held high and say " WOO HOO" or something to that extent. Oh guess what its official the recount in florida is bush wins by 300 wow what a coincidence!! he sure is lucky to win in the state that his BROTHER JEB is in charge of wow! yes i being intensely saracstic. arrggh I hate this if bush wins i wanna move far away. i mean geez we Americans must really have horrible self loathing problems if we want him for Prez. oh well we'll just hafta wait and see but im scared. well i gotta skadaddle bye!
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
ct merica -

I look everywhere and I cannot find theStart cd. I've even looked online, but no place has had it. Does anyone know where I can find it?
megan Wood <infitfuldreams@aol.com>
MA -

Hi all I thought i would post instead of lurking and reading what you all have said Kenickie:- hope the US did rock for you :) and i hope to see you play some music in London soon? hypnaughtika:- I think all the world wants the US of A to get the next Pres in place and to have sex with everything in sight ;) Charles:- I watched Guano Apes play in a very small club, and the power in the Singer voice was amazing. Anyway take care ppl. Mikey
Mikey <Sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
Glumdon, UK -

forgot to ask before, is anyone living in england going to see marilyn manson? preferably up here in manchester? if so give us a mail and we could meet up! hypnaughtika - i agree with what you said, but i was forced to listen to music, my dad would always tell me to shut up and listen to things like back in black and highway to hell. but its all good, everyone has their own tastes and views in music. Where i live must punks and skaters are ripped to pieces for wearing something that isn't timberland or fred perry, it really pisses me off. anyway i'm waffling now, gotta go - love to all!
jen jen
m/cr, uk -

geez, at lot has been going on since i was last on here, i would have been on sooner but i have been in hospital recovering! i always kinda new aimee and tairre where like that, i recall interviews in kerrang and metal hammer when the magazines wanted them to slag each other but they wouldn't. But anyway, i'm off, i don't feel to well again. Chin up chickens!!
Jen Jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Manchester, UK -

Here is another female fronted band to check out... that you will all like. Most of you may have already heard of them, but I feel the need to introduce. The band is 'Guano Apes'.. They are an excellent band that you should all consider checking.. follow the link of my name and listen to those songs.. they are in Quicktime format.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

When I was talking on behalf of the "fans".. I was talking of those who where talking in that rude manner. I didn't mean to get anyone offended, I just saw that Aimee was hurt and I hate to see people hurt.. especially someone with as much as heart in her work as she does.. So I apologize to those I may have offended. I just knew that the other individuals would not apopoligize and I want Aimee to feel better. So I hope I cleared things up. With Respect & Love. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

Jen I <3 you. And Bettie :)
Linds <XSTARhalo@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

LINDSAY "WHATS YOUR DAMAGE"???? HAHAHAHAHAHA =)
Jen
VISTA, -

do we have a goddamn president yet? im starting to get a little pissed off here---all because of some old farts in palm beach cant read a goddamn ballot...at least according to CNN.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Honestly, you post one morning, come back in the Afternoon, and Tairrie B has already been and gone. Typical! :o) I have learnt not to believe most of what I read in the media, but it is still nice to see people say something in their own words. My already huge respect and admiration for both Tairrie and Aimee has gone through the roof. On other notes, I see your point Bronagh, but I presumed Charles was talking about the "Fans" who come on here once just to stir up controversy. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick. Hyp, yeah, most people suck, but doesn't it just make you appreciate the nice guys? Kenickie, yep, i'm in Nottingham, but I can't make it to VAST at the mo, not enough money or Time to see a band when I only know two songs, as good as those two are. Oh, and one little thing. Some friends of mine are suggesting I got ripped off with mi piercing. I admit I don't know much. I paid �25 for the ring (Silver plated Surgical steel) and the piercing. I think that's about $17. Did I pay a good price? Or am I an idiot? It was in a perfectly clean place, not some backstreet guy with a hot safety pin....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

Can I just say...that Aimee and Tairrie are the 2 most awesome women in the world (and JesSICKa). The end. *kisses*
Linds <XSTARhalo@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

...SO ANYWAY the leadsinger to the original psychadelic 60's acid band, the 13th floor elevators, lives here in austin, as i have recently found out. he plead insanity to a drug possession charge in 1968 (he was 20) and put in the state hospital for 4 years, then let out. he lives in a federally subsidized home in del valle, where, it is said, he keeps several hundred televisions and has them on and off in systematic shifts. in 1989 he was busted by the FBI for hoarding his neighbor's mail. while he was in fact hoarding his neighbor's mail, it was a big misunderstanding and he had actually been asked by said neighbors to collect and distribute their mail---until they moved away and he continued to collect, but not to distribute. the federal agents found every envelope, unopened, taped to his walls in fractal patterns throughout the interior of his house. he is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and does not currently take medication (!?). i recently came into contact with a friend of his, and have been invited to go out with him to dinner this coming saturday...what im wondering is...is this something im going to want to see?
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Charles, I don't think it's right that you should assign yourself as spokesperson for the rest of the fans here. I myself have nothing to be sorry for, I was against these frankly nosey comments from the start (no pun intended), I think it's up to the fans to individually apologise should they deem it necessary. I also think that Aimee will succeed (well, she has already really!), not just because she has heart, but because she's very talented and is just fantastic at what she does! The last thing I want to do is start an argument with you, but your comments bothered me some, and so I felt the need to address them. Cheers, Bronagh.
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
Dublin, Ireland -

i dislike when people stare at you cuz you have bright hair. sometimes i just feel like telling then to get over it. woah it's pink hair - big deal! anyone else know what i'm talking about? when you get those weird looks cuz the hair is bright? or facial piercings? it shouldn't matter what we look like yet ignorance is always going to be there. i find it hilarious how people like to comment on things and they'll shout freak after they've just walked past you. funny how they can't say it to your face isn't it? well i am bored. take care everyone. byebyez. p.s. - hopefully we see the shirts and buttons up for sale here soon. i think it would be kewl if there was like a shirt or sticker design or something contest. anybody else??
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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woah! go miss b! go echo! if you like both bands it's all good. if you only like one - the forget the other. no one forces anyone to listen to the music.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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To whom it may concern, I was asked by a couple kids to come to this site and read the message board. I really had no idea why but after reading it I have now the urge to leave my own personal message.I am very proud to see Aimee doing what she does best. She is one of the most talented women I have ever known and has a beautifully unique voice. We used to say that we were eachothers negatives but I really think we've always been eachothers positives. I am not a singer and Aimee is not a...well whatever I am? What we are is two women who have fought and continue to fight for the right to be heard in a very scary male dominated industry filled with lies and jealousy We have nothing to be jealous of or in competion with in regards to eachother because we are both doing music that is drastically different.I have seen The Start and they were great! Aimee is and will always be one hell of a frontwoman.It is exhausting and truly high school like to keep trying to pit us against one another. We both realize that we have many of the same fans who can appreciate us equally for who we are as artists. I do not hate Aimee nor wish her ill will. I think that people grow apart for many reasons and we have ours.I have been working on a book for the past year and 1/2 and Aimee will be a very big part of that book through pictures and tour journals and so on.I have put up photos on my site of us together as well. She was a very big part of my life and you cannot just erase your life. I am She is a brilliant lyricist who has brought tears to my eyes with her words and fire to my heart with her passion. I want her to know that I think of her always as well and there will always be a special place in my memory to cherish the fun we had together.We taught eachother a lot and we both deserve a break from this so please respect our message boards and stop the gossip.It is done.On the subject of Lynn Strait... we all love and miss him and I do not think it is fair to assume things without knowing the entire story. Aimee and Jaime have something very magical together and it's really nobodys buisness what or how it came about now is it?As for me, I am not a part of the "STRAIT UP" album or in the video for many reasons. I did what was best for me in the situation and I know that Lynn knows how I feel from where he is.Remember Lynn for the talented performer he was and spread his voice around the world and he will live FOREVER through his music! Love and Prayers TAIRRIE B
MISS B <YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME>
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Metal Malcolm - you're in nottingham huh? are you going to see VAST at rock city wednesday?
Kenickie
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i think we all have the habit of forgetting that "rock stars" are people too. jesus, if i had a bunch of people posting anything about my personal life on a message board and talking about it like it was some godforsaken daytime soap opera i'd... um... scream or something. i had a point, i'm sure of it...
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We have turned into the media.. Just imagine how aimee feels, we are supposed to be fans and not critisize a band on its own guestbook.. its just not right. Plus you shouldn't be spreading gossip on ANYTHING when you apparently have no clue about it. I'm sorry for us fans have acted torwards all of theSTART. I apologize from all the fans, Sorry. Maybe one day people will grow up..instead of always trying to be the center of attention..... And Aimee, I know you work your ass off.. I give you a pat on the back and I know that you will suceed in the biz.. cause you have alot of heart and thats the main key in suceeding. Much Respect and Love. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

god DAMMIT!
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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i would, hyp, but my computer is the technological equivalent of a 64 dodge dart. the thing simply cannot handle too much data or it will explode; im sure of this...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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my computer is the technological equivalent of a 64 dodge dart. the thing simply cannot handle too much data or it will explode; im sure of this...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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kt: head on over to www.strait-up.com and download it. i missed it last night when they played it on loud. ahhhh! so that's what i'm gonna do. hehe. echo: thank you for settling the debate on what happened - not that was anyone's business anyway. both aimee and tairrie are wonderful women. i've had the chance to interview both and etc...and i must say they are very different yet both are beautiful creatures. they have paved a way for women in music and i thank them for that. with that they earn my respect. take care. byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika
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carmex on my broken lips is sticky and uncomfortable...and the goddamn texas weather wont, for the life of itself, make up its mind. it was 72 earlier and now its 50...i feel as if my brain will liquefy soon, and i will sneeze it into a jar and carry it around with me wherever i go, for i will need my fluid brain to make important decisions. goddammit i still have not seen the angel's son video and im getting rather impatient...
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Hopefully now that'll be the end of it. I hate the way so many people try and stir up controversy, both in the Media and outside it, but hopefully that will be the end of it. Thanks for posting that Aimee, that should help. If anyone says anymore, I think we can just shout at them to check the Archives!!! On a slightly lighter note, I wen't home this weekend to pick up some stuff, bought a pile of CD's with me, and then found that The one I wanted most wasn't in the case! DAMMIT! *Hits head on wall* Now I just have to get my coursework done. Oh, and at the risk of sounding like I'm plugging other bands (I hate it when people do that), I just got the new Amen CD. It seriously rules. As is to be expected. Later.
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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ECHO - Sorry you felt you needed to post that...never good when people question bits of your life they don't know about. Anyway, still looking forward to the new stuff. : )
Kenickie
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yay!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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awww.. thanx aimee.. it'll all end now hopefully :) love ya, see you at the show... i need to get crackin' on making a shirt.. hehe
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
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Ok here it is... Tairrie and I have been friends since we met in 94'. Over the years we have drifted farther and farther apart as is often the case with busy people. There was not an event that caused a falling out. There was no falling out. We are two very different people with different lives. I think Tairrie is an amazing and strong woman and I do wish her, as always, the very best. In fact I love her. She is frequently in my thoughts. All speculation and nasty rumors can now officially be put to an end. Stop pitting us and our respective bands against each other. We are now and have always been individuals, separate and unique, with different ideals and goals. Our bands are completely distinctive and have always been, down the line, from Manhole and HWP to MYRUIN and THE START. The differences are reflected in our music, personalities, and elsewhere. We are also the same, two women trying to make our way in a overly male dominated industry. In that respect we will never be divided. It has always been quite a difficult struggle for both of us, especially when some people would prefer to have us fighting with each other, spreading nasty and vicious rumors of who said what to keep us occupied and driven away from our true focus, which is in fact music. I don't have any spare time or energy to lend to tearing anyone down. I prefer to spend that time and energy working positively,actively on my music and making myself a better person. So there you have it. Happy now?
Echo
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is "circles" out yet?
evan bird <x13monster13x@aol.com>
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I, for one, am not interested in what happened between Tairrie B and Aimee, either it was a huge tiff or simply a case of friends growing apart...either way it's nobody's business but Aimee's and Tairrie's.
Bronagh <bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
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My comment is about Tairre B and Aimee.I think it sucks and I wish that they were friends but I don't think it will ever happen.Aimee and Tairre are both cool but they are so different and as far as I can tell they don't have much in common anymore.Iwould however like to know what hapenned between them as i'm sure a lot of other fans would? Drain broke up?Damnit I loved that band too. Oh well. Videodrone are awful so thats no big loss.
eternaLUX
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DRAIN BROKE UP?!?!? why am i ALWAYS THE LAST TO KNOW THIS SHIT LATELY?!?!?!? god DAMMIT!!!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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hi everybody :::waves:: it seems lately that im having bad luck with music. Drain STH broke up,RATM broke up,Che(bassist) of JCS left and then I just heard Videodrone broke up too. they be dropping like flies I tells ya. wel i'll go now bye :::waves:::
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
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HYP - Well, seeing as boring old me hasn't ever dyed his hair (can you believe it?) then, no, I wouldn't know about hair dye being annoying. ; ) Oh oh! I did some new pictures...I just started drawing again...click on the link to see 'em. : )
Kenickie <kenickie@thedreaming.fsnet.co.uk>
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so it was my birthday today...now, in texas, im legally considered a prosecutable adult...should i get caught committing a "crime"...the Dripping Springs Toilet Paper Crew (of which i am a founding member of 4 years standing) paid a late night visit to my house and left me a glorious birthday gift of a work of art...all over my front yard, our trees, fence, porch...well, its safe to say that my entire property was effectively mummified; i know the work of my own crew and it looks like they are indeed the perpetrators, but with the skill and effort they put into last night was an amazing birthday gift...but if they dont get over here tomorrow to clean it up, im thanking them with my foot up their ass...LOL
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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*slaps himself in the forhead*
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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laura <Binkees456@aol.com>
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Has anyone on this board heard the song that JESSICKA of Jack off Jill does with TAIRRIE B of My Ruin? Oh my god it is amazing!!! I LUUUUVVVVVV THEM BOTH SO MUCH! Why wasn't AIMEE envolved?I loved Human Waste and have not heard the new record yet but I always read things about it...kinda Missing Persons meets Orgy? Kewl!!Is it true or just a terrible rumopr that AIMEE and TAIRRIE are no longer friends? Can you answer this question once and for all if you read this MISS ECHO? I know a lot of people have asked this on the My Ruin message board and no one knows the real answer. What happened between you guys? I don't mean to be nosey but whenever anyone asks MISS B she just says "I WISH HER LUCK" but doesn't really answer anyone. Was it something bad? Anyway I an so saddenned by the JOJ split up. I hope that one day all my favorite women can be pals again. LOLxoxoxsssss JESS13
jessicunt13
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hmm. anyone else hate when hair dye is difficult and doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to?! i just spent today dying my hair again...the roots were pissing me off! and well yes putting blue streaks in pink hair is not an easy task to do by yourself - but then of course the blue was crap and looks bad. so tomorrow it's mission change the blue to purple with the help of pink. haha. ok i'm rambling. take care. byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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videodrone broke up like... uh... a month ago i think. i found out about it from ralski. HEY, theSTART should be part of 1605! that would be tight as hell!! hwp played with drown, right? and mike is in pm5k and they're 1605... so is orgy. it would be terrific if theSTART became part of the family. anywho, just a thought. 1605 por vida
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Actually no, Josh did not write any of the songs on the record. We write all of our own music ,lyrics, melodies etc. The one exception being: Jay Gordon wrote the guest part he sings on "Sin Original" Thanks for your input.
the start
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since when the fuck did VD break up? i mustve missed something...just gotta email from 1605 and mentioned that...what a FUCKING BUMMER
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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An advanced copy?! I'm now seething with envy... >:-(
Bronagh <Bronagh@perfectmachine.cjb.net>
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hey I just heard your record(my friend had an advance copy) and it's really cool but I have to just say one thing that is sort of bothering me a whole lot. It sounds like Orgy has really"influenced" the direction of the record(sound,music and vocals) I am not trying to be an ass so please don't jump all over this comment.I was wondering if this was due to the production of Josh Abraham because I also heard he wrote some of the stuff with you guys? I have to say that I preferred HWP but I think that this could eventually really grow on me.another wierd question I was wondering was is are you guys planning on touring in the UK again?I am from Manchester and right now on vacation(thank goodness) in LA visiting a friend but I leave to New York next week and then back home again.I am a huge fan of the band My Ruin and planning on catching a few of the shows on the tour they are doing later this month(WHY IS THE START NOT COMING WITH THEM?) Is is true that Terrie B and Aimee do not get along anymore? That is sad if true but we would love to see both bands together.Have you heard of Snake River Conspiracy? My Ruin are taking them and I just bought the record.I think fans of The Start should check them out. Anyhoo gotta go(my friends computer ya know) so bye byez for now. lol missjade
jade666
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LOL
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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your left
nut!
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whoops...my bad
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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rock on, homeskillet!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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rock on, homeskillet!!!
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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the one song on that album that pissed me off was the fred durst track. how can you sing such unimaginative lyrics in tribute to a person who can run lyrical circles around you? it was a nice gesture, but we all know that fred only cares about "the nookie" and if anyone was out to capitalize on lynn's death it would be him. but thats just cause he's not bad ass enough to have a dominatrix fellate him on a giant toilet
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its freezing cold here and im fearing for my very life. my blood is too thick for the cold, and im not coping well...i attribute this to my bastard genes from roots in snowy as fuck ohio combining with a little down home year-long summer oklahoma dna and creating a twisted aversion toward all temperature in general. the heat and absence thereof are only tolerable when im in the right mood...which is rare in itself. my drinks-on-the-job boss at the videostore told me today to "Buy yer books, go ta school, an' eat yer teachers", then he just walked out. can somebody PLEASE tell me what in the shit this means? so anyway i got the strait up disc and have been listening to it nonstop. anybody who would say something the nature of "they just did that to capitalize on lynns death, duh..." is uncultured swine. it was the first time i heard angels son, and i was affected. things like...lynn's recorded philosophies of addiction were amazing to hear...i am very happy with this album, and it was well worth the wait to me...props to ALL the folk that contributed somehow to be able to play us this music...well im off, tis time for the fool to get out...
kidneythief (diggin' a slow hole to china...) <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Wow...Jamie, how awesome are you? I'm glad someone said something to shut that jackass up. For a while at least...Jesus.
Lindsay <XSTARhalo@aol.com>
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malcolm: i'm always around. give me a shout thru email or something. i tend to answer it when i've got the time. lately things have been crazy and i've been coming up with so many ideas for so many things. i'm here though. take care. byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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I'll repeat a comment I often say. I love this band. Thanks to Jamie for intervening. We need band input on things like this. I know when I spoke to Amenthey only had positive things to say about theSTART, and we don't need bitching from people on this board. Ahhh, I really need a reason to stop drinking so much. Hyp, where are you when I need you? ;o)
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
Nottingham, UK -

ja-HEEzus! im noticing aa pattern: theres always the one person who just sort of floats on in here and significantly JACKS everything up for a few days. then a band-member pops on and hits the tv real hard, said person who started everything disappears and everythings alright again. whoa... thanks for the save jamie. its (start)-ling to think what would happen if they never intervene...hmmmmmmmmm.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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go jamie
stuff
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Oh yeah.. Thanx Jamie..for clearing it up.Late
Charles
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Unless you were a member of snot or know Lynn.. Let the subject rest. Stop disrespecting the band, especially on their own website. Lynn wasn't that type of person.. I never knew him, but I know he didn't hold grudges. I'm a very spiritual person I can fill what a persons like. So stop putting Lynns' name in bad use. If you feel the need to keep bitching on the subject, email me.. I don't care. Just stop disrespecting Aimee, you don't even know her. They(theStart) show alot of respect to us by posting and talking with us and we should show respect back. I hope you aren't ignorant enough to keep bitching. Much Respect to Aimee & Lynn.. Sorry for peoples fixation on needing to heard. Late.
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
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Ok I've seen enough, Snot was a band of five of the most stubborn, thick-headed, individuals ever to placed in one group together, but we were also five good friends that wanted the band to go in as many different directions. Sonny mayo was the first to leave in March of 97, for artistic and personal resons. Each of us in the band had various side projects going on, Sonny, tumor with the M.F. Pitbulls, myself with it hates humans AND HERO. After Ozzfest 97 I decieded after a two year uphill battle trying to get Snots' music out it just wasnt fun anymore. Our entire road crew had quit, our label was folding and I decieded, to be fair to the Snot guys I would leave so they could get a new member that was as passionate about the music of Snot as the remaining members were. When anyone leaves a band it's hard to deal with, you've spent so much time together and you do become closer friends than some. When Sonny left Snot we all felt like the band was missing a huge part and some people who are extremly passionate about things were upset. When I left the band 5 months later the same people were obviously upset.Anyone who has ever been dumped in a relationship should know the exact feeling. So there wasnt this big war or stealing people from bands, Sonny left Snot, we were sad, I left Snot, we were sad, but we move on. Did you ever think maybe I stole Aimee and Scott from HWP? Can't wait for feedback on that. P.S. we all love lynn, so leave it alone
jamie
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Why is everyone on this kick that Aimee stole Jamie and Mike, They did what they wanted to do and you all like the music so why do you keep complaining about it. Just leave it alone. Lynn did not have a problem with it so why should you guys.
stuff
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dear mr charles mouse oh i mean mounce um erh..mikey and tumer left the band and broke it up when lynn died but jaime and the other mike left while lynn was still with snot so please get your facts STRAIT before you speak out dude cuz we all know the deal and hey love that new album it sounds like you stole some members of ORGY while you were at it.lynn was the shit man.he was honest and true and a good friend to everyone.if aimee didn't do that shit then a whole hell of a lotta people got the wrong idea and it came from the SNOT camp!
tecato 69
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There may still be hope! : )
Charles M. <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA -

Hello kids.. well lots of stuff is happening here.. "HEY MAN u really dont have to be rude and talk shit on Aimee" Leave ur name.. or "scared you'll get beat up by a girl" "lynns left hand man" and to use lynns name to be rude.. what a jerk!! Well "Strait Up" is a very great thing to have. it was kinda sad just because he is gone.. i had the privalge of meeting Lynn at the Roxy.. Snot & Static 1st time i ever seen Snot.. it was one of the most craziest shows.. i was on the stage trying to get pics when half the crowd was on me.. got kicked in the nose..Aimee hooked me up with some ice.. such an awesome girl.. but b4 they played i met him upstars and he was such a happy guy he was like "hey nice to meet u i'm Lynn".. then there was a lil pot smoking.. in the song that Jason fr R.K.L sings he says it just like it happen to me.. got teary...all the songsare rad! So SHIRTS... awesome hmm i have to get xcrafty.. better call Martha hehehe...Well be safe a nice.. take care. *Angela*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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"Am I paranoid? Why, in my dreams, have I seen the whole world destroyed? Civilization raped, ain't no escape... Situations esculate in the date of 2001.. Revelation, or is it just my imagination? Invasion dreams occuring.. I can't explain it.. But it's the same one everday" - The Psycho Realm 'Premonitions'
Charles M <http://www.psychorealm.com>
OC, CA N/A -

:*( Bush has become president... I believe he is the anti-christ and the Millinium begins next year.. lets hope that my theories I stated earlier are not true. I feel sick to my stomach and felt this way all day. I have a bad feeling about this.. and I'm usually right about these things. Lets hope this time I'm not. Much Respect to all. Late.
Charles M <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
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Stop being so ignorant... If Snot stayed together I would not like it. I think a band should find a new group if a player dies or leaves, exspecially the lead singer ... the fact is that the band went into acts such as AMEN, theSTART, and Soulfly...because they didn't want to go on with the main key missing. And if you look none of the sounds, really sound like SNOT. Letting us see their talent. Thats my words. Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

didnt amen steal sonny? don't see anyone bitching about casey chaos
lynns right hand
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if bush wins im packing my shit and moving to canada. i live in texas---ive had to deal with this guy's shit for years. this twisted frat boy fiend just PROVES that they were right when they told us as kids that anyone can be president someday. ew..."I have just one question for the american people: IS our children learning?" AAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! see what ive had to live with for these past several years? christ...NADER!!! ill work a videostore clerk forEVER if i can get $10 min. wage! GOOOOOOOOOOOO NADER!!! FUCK the MAN!!!...LOL yeah ok im out...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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lol@ puke. what a corny yet funny joke! it was worth the laugh. hehe. anyway i bought strait up today. i must say it is amazing. watching the video thingy on it was bringing tears to my eyes not to mention chills. it made me feel like lynn was there, like he is still here. that's the vibe i was getting. it's truly beautiful and was well worth the wait. if you haven't picked it up yet - go ahead and do so you won't regret it. the emotion is incredible. you'll even hear the lovely miss echo at the end of absent. all in all it was good work..full of emotion and totally from the heart. play it loud and pay tribute. take care and byebyez. -amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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it's good to see how politically minded we all are. it's no wonder we all have flocked to a very politically minded band. they did write GORE-geous after all! HA HA HA ha ha hehe hmmm... ohhh, thatwasbad ...
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heheheh... ralph wiggum...
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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I'm with Hyp, if people care enough about someone, whether they are close to their heart personally or emotionally, to go out and make a record in rememberance then we should repect that. It doesn't matter who's on th record and who isn't what matters is that the record has ben made and what it now stands for. The whole idea is beautiful, and every Snot fan should be out buying it. The bonus is that every fan of the other bands may go out and buy it aswell, bringing GOOD music in to the mainstream for a change. Nite! alexa
alexa
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alot of good issues, and if he gets enough votes this term then he will get more funding for the next time around. if you really want to vote for what you believe in you should, and shouldnt 'assimilate' into the lesser of two evils. telling everyone to denounce what they believe in and 'settle' for something else isnt exactly positive. 'seperate but equal' with the segregation laws and fight for civil rights. if blacks 'settled' for this injustice and didnt fight for what they believed in then where would we be now? same with women's right to vote. its all about standing up for what you believe in. of course i dont think democracy is great or even tolerable in any respect, will one vote really make a difference anyway? no. there has never been an election in history that has been decided by one single persons vote. we are all sanctioned into 'states' not 'people' ..'groups' not 'individuals'... its all a big trough of bullshit we're feeding off of and i dont want any part of it. your truly~alicia
alicia <venomousbeauty@hotmail.com>
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I ate my red crayon?
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Two very good keys to remember why to vote for GORE.. TEXAS HAS THE LONGIST LIST IN AMERICA OF PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW... IN THE MIDDLE EAST A WAR HAS BROKEN OUT AND ONE OF OUR SHIPS HAVE BEEN BOMBED.. IF BUSH BECOMES PRESIDEN, HIS CONSERVATIVE ACTS WILL BRING US TO WAR. HE GIVES AN IMPRESSION FROM HIS STATES RECORD THAT HE HAS A KEY SENCE FOR PAYBACK, WHICH WE DON'T NEED OUR COUNTRYS' IGNORANCE TO GET THE BEST OF THEM ONCE AGAIN. OUR COUNTRY HAS ALREADY TRIED TO SHOW WHOS' "THE BOSS" AND FOR ONCE WE NEED TO SHOW OUR COUNTRY HAS SOME FUCKIN' VALUES FOR LIFE. PLEEEEEAAAASEEE VOTE FOR gore, IF YOU'D LIKE TO AVOID WAR. BUSH I SEE AS AN ANTI-CHRIST.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

the "Strait Up" project I first heard about about a year and a half ago.. when no record company was interested, it was strait from the fuckin' heart. It however did become a bandwagon when immortal got interested, but I never met LYNN and he touched my life with the song "tecato".. It is possible to write a tribute about a person you've never known. Thats like saying the president doesn't effect your life, cause you never met him. The "Strait Up" Project has a very good key to it and that is ALOT of fuckin' heart. It is not for the bills, its to carry on a life that was horribly cut short. Much Respect to everyone, Late.
Charles Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
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Just a reminder to all of you folks in the US...GET OUT AND VOTE FOR GORE TODAY!!
adrienne <divinecomedy1@yahoo.com>
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shall we begin?
echo <echo@thisisthestart.com>
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