speakoutarchive 17 02/19/03-07/07/03

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*don't think there won't be more touring.. you know aimee and jamie like to surprise you all. and to miss cindy.. don't doubt aimee's love for hwp. people grow up and expand their horizons. that's all.
Annie Banannie <xqiq@aol.com>
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sorry to kick the dead dog or something, but if you actually read the article that tairrie is quoting aimee from, you will notice she took those quotes completely out of context. i think the link to the article is on the other message board.
punchy
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lifes? my god. it was meant to be lives. this is what happens at 5:20AM.
valentine
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You know, I think people just need to get on with their regular lifes and whatever drama comes onto the boards about the band, leave it be. It's just bullshit that seems to come up when Tarrie wants a reaction from people and for fucks sake, she is getting it. Laugh at the damned drama. I've been getting drama from fans of a band I like, and I used to bitch and complain about it all I could. It made me feel damned insecure and pissed off. No use in complaining about it really, sure it may make you feel better to hear that the drama and bullshit you hear is fake. But I learned giving in to the stuff is far more worse, and emotionally draining than just ignoring it. So far this year as of April 2003, I've made a pact with myself, don't give in to other peoples stupid bullshit they throw at you about people you care about. It doesn't matter. People will always be there ready to make you squirm by saying something stupid and acting childish, and if you try and deal with the bullshit, it just makes you look bad in the end. Ignore all the crap, it will go away. Sure it's going to come back, but at least you know you didn't give them any sort of satisfaction. Don't give in to the people who want to pull you down right along with them. People who start rumours and drama like that are not worth anyones time and effort. And sure, it may seem that I am contradicting myself by posting this here as a remark to the whole tarrie b crap, but I just felt like saying this. Some people are fake, and arent worth the time of day. They'll make you question the people you care for. That is all they're after, so why give them any satisfacion?
valentine
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cool
Jorge Andrés <jorge_salinas69@hotmail.com>
Lisbon, 00 Portugal -

I just read Tairrie B's journal thing, so you know, skip if you don't care. I am a bit confused about Aimee's relationship with HWP. At times she seems, not embarressed, but... I don't know, like it was such a immature thing to be a part of maybe? But at the same time the link to wasteproject.com is on here. I loved HWP and I love theStart. If it weren't for HWP, life wouldn't have went the way it did to give her/us theStart... It just seems to me that Tairrie is very disappointed, but that happens when we have expectations or beliefs of our friends (or former friends) that end up being wrong. I know how that goes, but I don't know if I'd say it publically. But then if I saw things printed I felt were not factual, I might speak up too. *shrug*
Cindy <cindyelder@hotmail.com>
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Oh no. "Tree huggers." Anything but that, please. Wouldn't want to preserve the planet or anything like that. War must be good for us, too.
Jessica
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Aww this guy thinks he's hard. Since I'm Anti-Anti-Anti-War-People does this mean I can kick your ass?
Jes(sic)a
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he plays drums in enemy on occasion. PUNCHY. NATALIE. CALL ME. I THINK WE'RE TRAVELLING AGAIN, I'M WEEEEAK. also you are both coming with me to a VERY interesting concert the week beforehand. you both need to ring me asap. phil, jenny, come join us. we'll dance with lincoln.
stefanie
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HMM.. HAD I KNOWN THIS WAS A TREE HUGGING BAND OF LOONY CONSPIRACY THEORY FREAKS (ALL THE ANTI WAR BULLSH*T) I WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT YOUR CD! OH WELL? HWP WAS MUCH BETTER ANYWAY......
USA #1
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i'm a new listener to the start, i just actually ran across them. cuz im a huge fan of snot which led me to wonder where the drummer went because he was so amazing and i dont ever hear anything about him. I was wondering if there is anything he does other then the start, or is this is only project?
Jamie <parkdx32x@yahoo.com>
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Aug. 13? Coool....it'll be at the troubadour. Can't wait to finally see thestart again!
Ellen
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ANAL CUNT REFORMED!!! Oh, and Halford rejoined Judas Priest!! EEE!
Jes(sic)a
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next time phil, next time.
jenny jen jen
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the way i took it, yes, that's what it means... they are making a new record, which would mean that the LA show is probably the last of 2003, which sucks, but they have been touring a lot so. another record is good too, which totally doesn't suck and is pretty exciting. i'm just upset i didn't road trip it up to St. Louis last time...
Phil
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so here's a question worth asking, thisisthestart.com says there's a show in los angeles on august 13th, a homecoming show which is touted as theSTART's last chance to dance before hard work begins... i'm assuming this means another record, yes? but does that mean no more east coast dates for a while, hence the possibility of a trip to dc becoming VERY necessary? i didn't like my life savings anyway... :)
stefanie
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Nah....the band was just there to hang out, watch the show. Aimee was on the side of the stage during S.T.U.N.'s peformance. :) They are excited to head out on tour w/ Taproot. I hope to catch 'em soon!
Ellen
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zuh? warped? pamona? band? did they play? why am i so confuzzled?
jenny
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Nice seeing you Aimee at warped tour in Pomona. I also saw the rest of the band, including the new members! Such nice guys. :)
ellen
ca -

Maybe there's a possible tour....*hopes*
Jessica
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theSTART and TSUNAMI BOMB are a crew...

that was a bit random.
phil
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Nice site. can't wait to see you guys live;) Blah
blahblahgrrrrrrrrl <blah@yahoo.com>
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hello people *waves* i need a new job desperately.i'm in a confusing headspace. i don't know whats best for me - to move out of home or go to this art college??its all scary and i have to makae decisions.hhmmm? i lent my hwp and tehSTART albums to a friend.i miss them and am hoping he doesn't lose them.i spent months looking for hwp.are people being bitchy?whats this tairrie b thing about?(ther are too many posts for me to scroll through them all!!) well i hope everyone else is ok.love Kx
kittenish_behaviour <sakuragrrlie@hotmail.com>
brighton, uk -

honestly, i don't care about tairrie b. thinks of aimee because obviously everyone here likes theSTART and aimee or they wouldn't be posting. so besides the negativity of tairrie's rant... stefanie, i like the new homepage look. i'm also glad you updated everything garbage. me and natalie were talking about your g site a while ago and how we missed it oh so much.
philip
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well...tairrie is the one who brought it up this time.
punchy
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why is the whole tairrie and aimee thing being brought up again, for fucks sake, cant people just leave it! its getting really old and repetitive now....

anyway guys, ive just been for a meeting with my boss and im gonna find out in a hour if i have lost my job or not, cos they decided to pull me up over me being off sick (which i was) and they told me that i am not allowed any more time off unless something terrible happens to me...i'll let you know later on, and can u guys start looking for a job for me, over there, cos im coming soon!!!!! YAY!!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

im DOWN.
punchy
- "and did i mention i'm a mad bitch." ~ tairrie b. from her song victim

RingRingRingRING!! whats that sound? it miss b's specially modified time-to-use-theSpeakout-to-give-my-long-winded-opinions-about-music alarm clock. it goes off at least twice a year.
who wants to start a pop punk emo band with me that writes songs about ice cream but uses tura satana references in the titles (i.e. venus diablo mint, or put your fudge ripple out.) sound cool? probably not. but funny? hopefully. wait, maybe one more title: cycle of vanilla. who's down? punchy, i'm looking in your direction...
~tin puke sunday~ <puke@rock.com>
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spastica.net has a hot new homepage. eno surrounded by babes. in any event yeah GRR ARRG NOTHING IS LEGITIMATE UNLESS IT'S THE SAME KIND OF MUSIC YOU WERE MAKING FIVE YEARS AGO. UNLESS YOU'RE ME, IN WHICH CASE IT'S ACCEPTABLE. it's way punk rock to visit spastica.net by the way.
stefanie
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as much as i like tairrie b, or use to, that wasn't nice and was was really uncalled for.
punchy
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What is Tairrie B. trying to say? That Aimee should be shunned for not liking metal that much? I must've missed when that became the only important genre in music.
Jessica
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Why does she even bother? Let her say what she will. Sometimes i wonder if she just does it for the attention...cos you know how punk rock hate mail is *rolls eyes* Maybe it'll be like on the simpsons, ignore her and she'll go away.
back to business: you know, you'd think NYC would be a big enough city for taproot to play with theSTART and Revolution Smile. its alright i suppose, i still love you guys :o)
natalie
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AH LOOK OUT, YOU'RE HEADING FOR EMO! PULL OVER, PULL OVER! i can't imagine how much time that girl spent writing that huge long thing, considering it really doesn't say much of anything.
s
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Miss Tarrie B(le) seems to have confused us with those who might actually give a shit...
LeBonque
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Sit back and have an ice cold Miller.
Jes(sic)a
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Hi Tarrie, nice to hear from you.
jamie
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click my name
uh oh
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no time, no money. believe me, i tried. i'll do it up next time, when i can afford to roadtrip.
stefanie
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I propose a roadtrip to the D.C. show on the 30th. Mike? Steph? Who's with me?
Jacob
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Hey herectics....here are some new dates w/ Taproot! July 28th Norfolk, VA - Norva (Feat. theSTART, Naïve) July 29th Charlotte, NC - Tremont Music Hall (Feat. theSTART, Naïve) July 30th Washington, DC - 9:30 (Feat. theSTART, Naïve) August 01st New Orleans, LA - Tipitinas (Feat. theSTART, Naïve) August 02nd Houston, TX - Numbers (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 04th Austin, TX - La Zona Rosa (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 05th Dallas, TX - Trees (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 07th Albuquerque, NM - Sunshine Theatre (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 08th Phoenix, AZ - Bash On Ash (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 09th Las Vegas, NV - Huntridge (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile) August 11th San Diego, CA - Scene (Feat. theSTART, The Revolution Smile)
Ellen
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Howdy ya'll. My band finally grew a pair and uploaded our four-track onto IUMA.com Please give us a listen and let me know what you think. So far Three out of the Four are Miller approved. The last track is brand new to the world. Feel free to use the comment button on the site. Toodlez.
tickXtock <FashionVictum@aol.com>
Westmonster, CA USA -

what's this about?
Monique Cortez <voidstrikeback17@hotmail.com>
coachella, CA Riverside -

Stefanie has awesome peppermint candy, worthy of even Jack and Meg Whites adoration.
valentine
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i am theSTART's jewish grandmother. hard candy, anyone?
stefanie
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well...i don't think they'll be joining wind-up records anytime soon.
punchy
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For those of you who have Xanga (online journal thingy) I have created a Blog (if you guys know what I am talking about) for theStart fans. :-) it is called thisistheStart join it! later!! peace out
Emily
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they're all aliens.
sapphire
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I'm a new fan & have only seen the Start twice. I have a question about song lyrics. I notice that many of the songs have references to religion, more specifically Christianity. Does anyone know if they are religious, atheist or what? It doesn't really make a difference to me it just helps to understand the lyric content & where they're coming from.
Stefanie <crashgrab@hotmail.com>
Austin, TX usa -

I was introduced to the start when i went to see alkaline trio in MN last week on the 25th,seeing em live made me an instant fan, was anyone else there? If so, do you know where i could find photos of the whole show? Thanks
Alex <gopher_boy64@hotmail.com>
nowhersville, MN USA -

YOU GUYS ROCK, I <3 THE START
Mike
cincinnati , ohio -

i am not in MA or NY, but i enjoy placebo. Ill go with you in spirit. :)
jenny
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Tis me again. OK, warning, this is semi-off topic. Anyone out there, preferably in MA or NY, that likes Placebo and would want to go to the NYC show with me?
Jacob
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YAY! Someone listened to me about setting up a chat time. Look at the news! Thanks human!
Jes(sic)a
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hey guys! if any of u are heading to the show @ the edge up north and dont have tickets contact me. i have 2 extra and am in need to get rid of them. its 20.00 for 2 tickets. ill meet u up or mail them to you. whatever is convenient. just post here if u want them. later kids! -richard
richard <colossuskid101@hotmail.com>
whittier, ca -

Hey Guys- I haven't been here in ages....i miss you all! So the scene on the 25th...i might go, i'm gonna be down there for pride on the 26&27th....yes....beergrass here i come.!!!!!
-erika
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NATALIE AND PUNCHY WE ARE SO GOING TO SEE NORTHERN STATE. i just got the confirmation email (took them long enough, bastards)! we need to meet there five-ish so i must organise some sort of half day, but it's more or less ON. and while we're waiting we can write whitegirl raps of our own <3
stefanie
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hey guys just saying hello, will post properly later on today cos ive got about 5mins of my dinner left...in a bit xxxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

OH! i've wanted to go to that wax museum in times square forever but i haven't been there yet. Stef we should totally make a play date.
blondie...shakedown? hmm interesting
natalie
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hey you guys....I got to hear shakedown live....among other songs...sorry, i get very few concert experiences. I was also wondering, is anyone here well versed in a foriegn language? i ask for matters of personal business
Christo
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if you don't hit up the wax museum you are totally missing out, i'll say that. <3 ohh i don't know, shoot me an email. maybe you'll be down in this area (highly likely, i'm right outside times square) and i can drop water balloons on you from a tall building... i just saw on some site that the first song on blondie's next album is called 'shakedown.' something to think about...
stefanie
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yeah, stefanie, sorry about that. i've been out being an idiot and such. umm, i'm out there for a few days because my dad needs to do business or something, so he decided to take mum, my cousin and myself. not sure what we're doing out there but i think one day involves seeing shania twain. *creepy eye* any suggestions? and yeah, "Dog" is probably my favorite HWP song now (well "One Night in Spain..." is tied with it) and when I first heard "Dog," it totally made me think like, "isn't this a song by theSTART?" it sounds like it would fit more in their catalog than with HWP songs.
philbert
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yeah ive seen aimee do a hwp song...WITH hwp when they opened up for the deftones..so yeah on you! slowtimers!! hahahha
Johnny L. <RNRriot@aol.com>
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Finally the Start are coming back to AZ! I can't wait till July 24! Last time I saw them was with Alkaline Trio. This is going to be my third time! I'm so excited. At the last show me and my two friends talked with Jamie when he was packing up some stuff and we talked to Aimee a little. Some of the nicest people! Jamie even said next time we could get backstage and he gave us a password and everything! He rules!
Daniel <DarbyCrash24@hotmail.com>
Phoenix, AZ USA -

its not fair!!!you all get to see theSTART loads cos u live in america!!*pouts* and its raining (as always) over here!!ggrrrr!well i guess i have work to do.i hate being stuck in the house, but i guess its my own fault for refusing to drive.love from a miserable kittenish stuck in england :(
kittenish_behaviour <sakuragrrlie@hotmail.com>
england -

So, is Aimee dating anyone? Cause I saw her at the Alk3 concert in San Fran and she was throwing me vibes. She was into my shit.
Jack Mehoff <fball75@yahoo.com>
poopville, CA Iraq -

I'm trying to see if I can get to the Houston show. Mang, you guys need to swing through Louisiana sometime.
Devon
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natalie i totally looked up the logistics for going to dc. driving is out of the question and unless you want to shell out $300 for acela i'd say trains are too. no good. i need to sort out the northern state thing... PHIL! i left you a message on the other board, what are you doing in new york city? i'm in there every weekday cos i'm a big important figure in the industry now (i totally mail things and get coffee) and i am the master of nyc tourist attractions.
stefanie
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PS
Billy Brimblecom has the coolest name ever.
natalie
ny -

I went to the the show in Cinci at Bogarts a few weeks ago and it was awesome!! I could see why my friend liked you all so much.. I saw that you all have a show soon at Bogarts again.. it sucks I cant go.. :( you all HAVE TO COME BACK TO CINCI ONCE MORE!! YOU ALL KICK ASS AND TAKE NAMES!!
Phil Saunders <phillipsaunders2004@hotmail.com>
Maysville, KY USA -

i think i need to get a car so i can just follow theSTART around EVERYWHERE cos everytime they play with bands i want to see (onelinedrawing, revolution smile) its never near me.
hey you guys don't mind a stalker, right?
natalie
ny -

i saw them do electra, it was amazing! dog is my favorite hwp song too, but im not getting my hopes up!
punchy
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i found electralux for 2 bucks in san francisco at amoeba.. i almost peed my pants when i saw it... and i know own it and got aimee to sign it at the show later that night. it was cute. shes like i dont even have one of these!
six <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
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HWP is short for Human Waste Project, Aimee and Scott's (Scott was theSTART's first drummer) old band. Aimee and Jamie played "Electra" on a few of the shows in May, i've been told... i wanna hear that.
Philly
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HWP???? I'm a might bit confused
Christo <artqst@hotmail.com>
Georgetown, KY -

puke.. if you read this...where the numbers at? they be over here... email meeeee and ill give you all the numbers i got
j & m <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

*sigh* I think it would be really cool if Amiee and the boys played a HWP song next time I see them. If I was lucky, 'Dog'. Yeah, that would be wicked. *Kisses and Hugs*
Jacob
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man alive, i was at the louisville show at jillians, and i got turned onto this band hard, i yearn to scrape up money for a CD *gasp* perhaps gainful employment will help. But i really thought this band rocked hard, and wantedto say something
Christo <artqst@hotmail.com>
Georgetown, KY -

i'm down with the DC 7/30 show. especially if it's anything like the baltimore one was.
brian
cornwall, pa -

new dates with Taproot are on Pollstar. not sure how official these are yet since there's no word on the page but check them out anyway. pretty much the same places they are hitting during the beginning of July with a few more additions too.
Phil!
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anyone going to the show in San Louis Obisbo, CA? anyway...to theSTART it's "pride week" when you guys play there and I think, pretty positive, that I read an article that aimee got pinned against the wall by some girl, you know thinking aimee was lesbo...so aimee watch out!
sara <acousticasara@yahoo.com>
CA -

Hi Steven!
jamie
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strom thurmond, the oldest bastard in the senate, dead at 100. I thought he'd never die.
jenny for senate
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OHWAITWAITWAIT THEY FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! wait no that looks like a couple of hubcaps.
stefanie
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Maybe we could have a few different times?
Jes(sic)a
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didn't we try this a long time ago? all the various time zones and schedules, none of the english people wanting to stay up past their bedtimes and none of the west coast people eager to give up their day jobs and educational obligations to rush home and meet at a convenient time for all. still. i'd be down if we could organise something.
s diddy
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this is getting a little out of control. SCANDAL.
philly j. blige
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We should figure out weekly times to go in the chat room! Anyone with me?
Jes(sic)a
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i used to have a little, but now i have a lot...im still jenny from the block
j wo
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you must be fooled by the rocks that she got.
notorious s.t.e.f.
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i'm not sure, not-so-jenny-from-the-block, but its really confusing me and a few others. hah.
phil
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whats all this crazy talk?
jenny
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where ever i am? im in new york melting in this 96 degree weather. sure i'd love to go and hang out with you lovely ladies again. i haven't heard them but i will check them out - and love them. :o)
and who does the current lineup for theSTART consist of? my friend told me he saw a girl with a start shirt on in maine - representin'! hehe
natalie
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hahah todd.
punchy
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i want THESTART to play some gigs in the uk!!!
zen <houy2002@yahoo.com>
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jack? as in thejack? and puke is todd, so that means puke is the bassist now? and let me guess, the new drummer, Justin, is really Jala P. Eno? have i been had?
woah
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shut up heather goes out with jack?!
punchy
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I heard matt skiba goes out with AImee goes out with heather goes out with jack goes out with jamie. fuck yeah.
hoho <yoho1234@yahoo.cccom>
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natalie wherever you are, would you be interested in seeing northern state at the carson daly show with me and punchy on july 8? anybody who doesn't know who northern state are.... click my name. you'll love them or i'll beat you up.
northern stef
yo it's fun to rhyme with my friend dj sprout, cos here is my handle and here is my spout <3 -

my dear dr. phil, altho we have already spoken, i will inform the rest of the board of the information i had provided you with. the show saturday rocked! the set list was the same as, only shakedown and love in a void were switch, love in a void was the last song played...i think...suddenly i dont remeber. one man army was pretty damn good too. and trio rocked. yes it was a plesent evening. many many thanks to puke. :)
dearest jenny
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well now my gerbils on eaaaasssy streeeett
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dear miss jenny, i attempted to call you several times tonight but to no avail. you must be having too much fun and that's definitely a good thing. i also left you a voicemail and such. i will talk to you soon, hope you had/are having? a great time and inform me of their plans for the end of next week. *cheeky grin*
just a boy named phil
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heard a rumor from a strange strange girl last night that the southeast us will be getting a heavy STARTing with a chance of eno...
stef "hurricane" schwartz
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ok, so i wasnt paying attention when i wrote my last comment, i meant who ever phil said i meant. its 930 am, and i havnt been up this early on a weekend since, i was like 10...that might be an exaggeration(i cant spell..unless i spelled it right, and then i can...) im gonna see thestart today wo wo wo. *does a lil jigg* mr. chesse(phil, aka dr. phil) call me tonite if you want. ill leaf the phone on. *mwah* kisses to all you crazy kids.
clean up on isle 6
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weird. i find it odd that people find aimee's vocals bad at first listen but then over time they enjoy them. ive met a couple people who feeel this way. WHATS GOING ON. i watched punch(y) drunk love last night and i enjoyed it. also, my new mouse is super smooth.
p to the unchy
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Cuz your friends don't dance and if they don't dance...!
Jes(sic)a
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spay you! that's scandalous! haha, totally bad spelling mistake, kinda like chesse instead of cheese. what an idiot i am. i think she meant Brittany instead of Natalie, mmhmm?
p-doggiedog
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holy crap she's gonna spay me. MY OVARIES DID NOTHING TO YOU, KID. NOTHING. and natalie has totally been here. that super soaker has messed you up!
super steffer 2000
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good job, jen. now the carpet is all wet here. ah and welcome to the board, you'll like it here.
philly creamchesse
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who said anyting about kicking!? hmm? and if you're not careful stefanie, im gonna spay you! ha ha ha ha. Nice to see you liked the band natalie. welcome to the boards!
jen
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this is a nonviolent board! no kicking, just squirt guns.
theSTEFANIE?
hey if everybody else gets to make up names, i do too. -

Last year I couldn't stand The START and the vocals killed my ears. Four people I know really love them and I couldn't understand it. Then, this past Monday I saw them, danced, bought some music (which I'm still listening to) and felt like an ass for ever hating them. Hell, they did better than Alkaline Trio and One Man Army. Someone kick me for I deserve it.
Brittany <blindfreakonadeadjon@37.com>
Camano Island, WA U.S. -

i just met a photographer who did alot of work with SNOT - Jamie he wants me to tell you Hello. His name is steven and he said "tell jamie the crazy photographer from new jersey said hi".
rock.
natalie
ny -

So I was on my way to the movies to see the Matrix again and one of the girls who works there sees my shirt and says theSTART! I saw them with Alkaline Trio! Haha. She bought the EP too, yay for good Alk3 fans.
Jes(sic)a
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*gets out super soaker 1million and 5* *soaks phil* *walks away*
thejenanator
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there will be no shooting of evil eyes here, jennaben. maybe shooting of water guns but not evil eyes. do you know anyone else going to that show?
philly vanilly
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*shoots stefanie the evuuuul eye* you know nothing. its a good drive friend, ill say more than 6 hrs. but very worth it, st. louis is a nice city to drive thru.
jenny
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i'm convinced it's ALL secretly jenny.
stefanie
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wow. who are all these people? hot damn. that circle just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
kt
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how long does it take to get to st louis from columbus, oh? too long prolly...
more travis
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no, im going to the st. louis show saturday. you should go, and you, and you, and especially punchy. :)
more jenny
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anyone going to the cinci show monday?
travis
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young punchy, why would i ever want to beat you up? and yeah, wanna buy me a plane ticket and ill come up to nyc.
jen
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oo melt and love in a void. jennny you don't want to go to the west coast, it smells. dont beat me up.
punchy
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hey anyone going to the show in SLO...hehe that rhymed! but seriously anyone going to the show in San Louis Obispo? I hope it doesn't sell out I haven't been to a show in a loooooooong time! and I want to go!
sara <acousticasara@yahoo.com>
CA -

*in surfer voice* like whooooa that's like tootally awesome dudes, hand loose man...the start on mtv bro..right on!
surfing jenny
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yeah!!!! the start's "gorgeous" was played on mtv's surf girls!!!!!!! I was so excited to hear it and while they were catching big waves tooooo!!!!!!!!
sara <acousticasara@yahoo.com>
CA -

i went to 5 shows. they were amazing. they added melt to the set list. *big smile* :) hooooraaaaaaay... they also been doing love in a void.. no her song.. but i heard they are going to probably work it back in sometime soon... so hooray..
six
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jenny, take a train. it might be more fun. hmm i might be in NYC this summer, pray for a show that i could possible be at. we can boogie if we want to.
philly
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lol. ok punchy let me hop in my car and drive...vaaarooooom..(thats the sound my car makes) i have never been to new york so if i make an effort it might happen, but id rather go to the west coast...why not meet me half way??
867-5309
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mtv was on at a friend's house this evening, some random 'reality' show about surfer girls was on and they were definitely playing 'gorgeous' during part of the show. i never watch tv either, so it was really bizarre that i caught this.. at a friend's house no less. woohoo for thestart once again making their way to the most random of television shows.
mike!
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phil and jenny should come to a show in NYC because i want to meet them and dance with them!
punchy
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No No! No more essays for 3 months!
Jes(sic)a
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i agree with phil,what is wrong with you people? post your damn reviews..unless u havnt gone to a show, then post your explanation to not going to a show. i would like your explanations in a 5 paragraph essay with a well stated thesis.
agreeing jenny
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i have no source. it's wishful thinking again. and yeah, people should start talking about the alk3 shows. how are people reacting to them? any dancing going on?
phil
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waaa taproot and the start? bleh. and double bleh for most liking not being at the fireside...whats your source on this dr phil? and why do i feel like im gonna barf?
i have been poked
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that is weird how no one is talking about the shows. i want to hear love in a void. and melt. and her song.
punchy
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naw, i meant Jenny as in lilmidget Jenny. she's my Chicago buddy.
phil
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Did you call me Jenny? Lol. Psh, I remember Matt from Alkaline Trio just gave his guitar out to some guy in the audience, I could have used it!!
Jes(sic)a
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awesome about Taproot... hopefully theSTART will be coming to Chicago with them... *pokes Jenny* hell yes. thanks for the set. i'll put it up on my site... glad to see they are doing "Melt" again and picked up the Banshees cover, too!
phil
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THe House of Blues show and PHX show rocked. Too bad they pushed everyone out right after the HOB show ended. I don't care for One Man Army. I really liked Paris, Texas, I think they are rally good. But I think theSTART did an awsome job. WORD
Andrew
PHX, AZ -

Hey I love you guys and now I love you even more now that you are touring with Piebald they are absolutely brilliant!
Mirage <swizzle26@hotmail.com>
UK -

Why is no one talking about the shows? -Emo tear- Heh, okay so The Glasshouse show rocked. They played The 1234, Hi Flyer, Los Angelos, Death Via Satellite, Nemesis, Melt, Shakedown, and Love In A Void (Siouxsie cover). I don't know if that's the right order but yes.
Jes(sic)a
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interesting.
punchy
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Haha I was asking you guys! Here's what Mike from Taproot said
I guess the dates would be in Aug. since July seems full?
Jes(sic)a
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wow. so i'm gone for a few days, come back to read that along with Sarah, Brian is no longer in the band?!? Whats going on?!? and whats up with the post saying "jonah sucks hard"? Jonah as in onelinedrawing Jonah? Because if that is in reference to him i probably shouldnt know cos i'll get angry and ... well, you wouldn't want to see me when im angry.
STEF, PUNCHY - whats goin on ladies? I miss you guys.
natalie
ny -

reading is going to b soooooo good. i'm all excited!!!this is my first proper fest (which is lame). but its going to b great fun. Kx
kittenish_behaviour <sakuraggrlie@hotmail.com>
england -

yes what is this you hear about everyones favorite band touring with taproot?
curious george
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What's this I hear of theSTART touring with Taproot? ;]
Jes(sic)a
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Hey y'all got a suggestion,well a recommendation actually.Ian Love formally of Rival Schools is now in a new band called Cardia,they've just released their debut album on SilverThree recordings, they've already played with bands like Thursday,Retisonic,onelinedrawing and they've got dates with Jets To Brazil coming up pretty soon,they're also coming over to the UK to play reading and leeds festivals with a few of their own dates in between.so check them out at http://www.cardiamusic.com where you can listen to samples of the album and check out all the tour dates etc....
Allan <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
West Midlands, UK -

Hey i turned my back for a second and the whole band changed what happened to Sarah? i was so sad when i saw them last thursday without her.
kat <chicknsox@aol.com>
whittier, -

tastes just like chicken they say
kt
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hi *waves* i'm new here.just joined the mailing list and it said i could join here and i wondered what it was - some kind of forum type place???well i guess it will become clear soon enough.errmmmm....i guess thats it love and sparkles Kxxx
kittenish_behaviour <sakuragrrlie@hotmail.com>
brighton, england -

oh yeah welcome back kt, i wondered where you were!
stefanie
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it's a cruuuuel CRUEL SUMMERRRRR.. leaving me heeeeere on my own!
stefanie
i am never quitting., -

where the numbers at???
yo
USA -

what the fuck is up. in this place. oh my god, so like, a WAR has happened since the last time i was here. it feels good to have a phone again. so that was a pretty good episode of Rowdy Rummie and the Pentagon Pack, wasn't it? holee shit. i wonder where they'll go next. watch as the salty old bastard chases those wonderdful weapons of mass distraction all over the world. meanwhile police officers in your cities have all been issued premium quality riot gear by the federal government in the last several months that feature no place for patch insignia or badge number display courtesy of the good ole pair o' patriot acts, that shiny new pair of jackboots our congress has handed our whitehouse. here was my war experience---a peak to end all peaks on the night baghdad fell. and yes. cubensis mushrooms and a crude attempt at concocting an ayahuasca-like stew were involved. some of you roll the eyeballs but hear me out. all that bears mentioning from those twele hours was the moment you all no doubt remember. the iraqi foreign minister was outside in the streets, waving his hands around the frame and irritatedly claiming that there were no americans in the city. this, which was airing live at two a.m. local time, was what you all saw, and was what went on to be one of the great absurd moments of the whole clusterfuck. but this, my friends, is not was i saw. i witnessed, and i mean i WATCHED with my own two eyes that man flail and wave his arms at the camera and SCREAM. in reality there was a split screen and from a different part of the city a statue was being filmed and broadcasted. the pundits talked over both these feeds. but again, i was watching something altogether different, and, might i say, all the more climactic. i watched smoke eddy from burning city buildings behind the leathery politician, while explosions rocked the horizon behind them. helicopters swarmed over him, casting shadows as he wailed about there being none of us in his city. i watched troops pour from nooks and crannies in the concrete around him. i watched tears fall from his eyes and grease his face in misery, humiliation, and defeat. MEANWHILE, back in realityville, all yall probably watched the statue get wasted live on tv, while the iraqi foreign minister was simultaneously bullshitting about our presence. all you guys saw was a pixellation in the left panel, the statue dissolved, the talking heads oohed and awwed. this, obviously, did not help my situation. i saw one image, the statue having been BEHIND the minister, with all the smoke and the hooting pundits only furthering the peak of the war as it appeared to me. and then, my friends, the channel got changed. right then, right there, immediately before we were about to see saddam himself come out of the rubble behind his tool and conjure the end of that whole silly war. the channel got changed, and i realized something. or maybe it wasn't so much something i realized as it was something i'd decided to finally acknowledge---the fucking aliens. yes, the fucking aliens. but that's all i can really put into words. so then it came to a head in the longer term...while everybodies' been barking about this puny excuse for a war, i've been chasing down other angles. if i was well enough off to not have casual worries, like anyone's usual daydream, i think i would devote my life entirely to chasing UFO's. i've always been fascinated by the topic but goddamn if in the last three months or so i haven't read volumes and compiled stacks of videotapes and photographs. i'm going crazy. to hell with last summer's project concerning catching a bigfoot.
kt <those bastards zapped my shit>
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we all know that all stefanie wants is another baby (she's gone tommarow!)
punchy
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C'mon now, you gotta respect the Base that is Ace ;) Thanks for the update :) I think the EastCosters should have a start BBQ this summer at my house. Any takers? I make a mean burger hehe
Jacob
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listen, kid, there's always a need to sing ace of base or GET OUT OF MY CAR. DON'T TURN ARRROOOUND... thanks for the fries by the way junky, i'll buy you something next time i'm in your neck of the woods. that waitress ruled... 'can i get... regular iced tea?' 'no.' 'can i get a coke?' 'no.' <3 we should visit her next time. anyway new members have the potential to be awesome... a fresh beginning. somebody take pictures!
stefanie
it's a beautiful life, ohohhhoooohhhh -

pukes right, there was no need to start singing ace of base :P
punchy
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Heh. I was just joking about a BTM. Those are only for people who fail. And obviously, theSTART is going strong. Glad the other two people are working out.
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
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no minister of thestart? i hear it pays well. lol puke you rock my world.
jenny
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and it was delicious. the huge ex-inmate waitress with bright red hair made for great additional atmosphere.
now what you guys really need is the honourable confounding watermelon to come on here and give you some news. take deep breaths and don't worry so freakin much, everything is fine. it's not "what happened" so much as what wasn't happening and everybody involved is on the same page and agrees with the new situation. even people who are no longer in the picture are cool with the recent events. bass player ~ todd, drummer ~ justin. they totally rock. they are not girls, like it makes a fucking difference, dude. they're very cool guys. this is all i'm gonna say because i don't want a reputation as the minister of information for theStart. there is no behind the music in the making because the music and the people who created it are doing just fine. all the anonymous posters can chill their shit out. the curiosity is understandable but stabbing your eyes out is unnecessary. if there was an undisclosed person playing guitar or singing you could stab as many eyes as you'd like.
in closing, this tour is a new chapter for theStart, one that you'd be crazy to miss, and the gang is super happy. you guys should be too.
~puke world order~ <puke@rock.com>
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I REMEMBER YOU.
punchy
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a few quick bits: sorry but jonah sucks HARD. also, manson is only as good as the chaps who make the music for him... what were you expecting from skold? you'd laugh if you heard the material skold is working on... sounds just like manson, oddly enough. anyways, just wanted to say hi to the starters and all the l00sers i bought dinner for at dennys. you know who you are. junky
junky <legacydevice@hotmail.com>
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this is crazy, im goonnna stab some eyes out soon.
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hey does anyone kno where i can order a 3rd strike hoodie? if ya do email me crazygirlb88@hotmail.com....thankx
lynn <crazygirlb88@hotmail.com>
nj -

under the paaaale moon where i! see! a lot of stars! ooohohooooooohh... i don't know what the deal is anymore than you people but hey, keep in mind that the rhythm section are pretty much a revolving door as the music is written entirely by aimee and jamie.. still, brian is a pretty rockin' dude. we'll find out soon enough, as soon as you damn kids start going to the shows and doing some proper reporting. life is demanding without understanding!
i saw the stefanie and it opened up my eyes
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oh jacob, you have made a powerful enemy my friend...putting that terrible song in my head...grrr to you...grrr.
angry jenny
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Just to lighten the mood, I felt the need to share some old lyrics from an addictive 90s song. She leeds a lonely life - she leeds a lonely life When she woke up late in the morning light and the day has just begun she opened her eyes and thought o' what a morning it's not a day for work it's a day for catching tan just laying on the beach and having fun she's going to get you all that she wants is another baby Hahaha *Hugs and kisses* Love ya alll
Jacob
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*screams* no more brian! he was my bud! where is puke to set the record straight!? someone give answers! now!
!!!!!jenny!!!!!!!
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ahhhhhh someone needs to find out! what about people from the show last night, did anybody go to that one?
phil
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Someone has to know who the new members are.
Jessica
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you people are jerks, tell us who it is.
.........
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somebody, anybody know?
...
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ok damn it...someone has to have some info. let us in on the bass and drum secret.
madly in anger with you
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Me and my friends traveled eight hrs to see Alkaline Trio and we were surprised to see a band as good as the Start and i got a new favorite band from that concert.
Dallas
cortez, co -

Daaaaaamn. There is a "Behind The Music" in the making. Where's everyone going?!
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
Sammamish, WA -

that's what im saying. what kind of pony digging is going on?
punchy
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No Brian?!? :(
Jessica
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LOVE THE START, CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY COME THROUGH ARE TOWN AGAIN!! (JUST WISH THEY WOULD PLAY MELT)
Melissa <cowgurlfrmhell22@yahoo.com>
North Hollywood, Ca USA -

uhh what happened to brian? and were they guys or gals?
phil
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New bassist and drummer. As in no Brian, no scott, no Sara, and no Jeff.
Andrew
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different drummer as in not brian? or different bass player and drummer as in not in that picture up there?
stefanie
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It was yummy. lol. Different drummer and bassist. I don't know who they are but they played well.
Andrew
Phoenix, AZ -

so how was the show last night?
punchy
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hey everyone whats up i was wondering if yall would check out my new website and tel me what you think. it is @: www.geocities.com/surf_78dlc/ash.html
ashley <www.surf_78_@hotmail.com>
san antonio, tx united states -

am new itown want meet peoplein naples
dr.synweep <synweep@hotmail.com>
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Be! Agressive! B-E Agressive! B! E! A-G-G! R-E-S-S-I-V-E!

ahem
Metal Malcolm
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alright, hows everyone? ive been ok, ive not posted for ages have i? hope you are all alright, it was my 21st birthday a couple of weeks back, yay me! and i got a present off my g/f rachel, guess what i got, go on...
hahaha i got my very own start symbol on my forearm, its there for good now! YAY!!! i got it to remind of the 4th november 2002 for the rest of my life!!! and my hand was for one second on Aimee Echos lovely arse!!!

see you guys soon, love you all xxxxxx
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

LOL MANSON! "I don't believe in the devil, but I know god didn't create something as filthy as you!!!"
Andrew
Phoenix, AZ -

i have heard that... goddammit, manson has totally let me down. i was hoping this album would be a return to awesomeness and in some ways it's great but that's skold's influence. it's not manson without twiggy; it sounds like an mdfmk record. and the lyrics are the worst... thing.. ever. goddammit. oh well. I GOT AN F AND A C AND I GOT A K TOO AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING IS... U!
stefanie
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speaking of manson, i heard he's doing a new version of rocky horror, he's playing frankenfurter...what a terrible frankenfurter, i think...anyone else hear this?
gossiping jenny
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be! obscene! be! be! obscene! beeee obscene, babaaayyy....
stefanie
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What's goin on? In case you didn't know, Marilyn Manson brought larger than life rock back into action with his new album "The Golden Age of Grotesque". His most accessible album and also his finest moment. Check out www.marilynmanson.com for all the latest info. Join our family at www.marilynmanson.com/themobsters ...Seen the video for mOBSCENE yet?...if no, then go here: http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1016885 Rock on.
October Midnight
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why must everyone yell?! my eyes hurt. stop yelling.
jenny
you know where i live, -

last day with alk3 seems to be June 25th in Minnesota on their site unfortunately but then again, on the venue's site for the Omaha date, it says it's TBA who is playing with alk3 so maybe they will play it? who knows? not me...
phil
chicago, -

I saw the Start in Bakersfield and I was blown away. The energy put out by the band infected the entire audience until everybody was dancing. I can't wait to see them again!
Lori <threechordwh0re@hotmail.com>
Bakersfield, CA -

HEY IVE SEEN THE START IN CONCERT TWICE AND I CANT WAIT TO SEE THEM AGAIN.THEY ARE INCREDABLE IN CONCERT
Mandy B. <startinglinehun@aol.com>
Commerce, GA USA -

U GUYS ROCK!YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST BANDS!!
Mandy B. <startinglinehun@aol.com>
Commerce, GA usa -

I noticed Alkaline Trio is playing Omaha on 6/26...surely theStart will be playing this too? I hope so.
Cindy
NE -

So, who's the new bassist?
yada yada
USA -

whoa! i'm gonna be in CA from july 2nd to july 7th, so i'm hoping they add some more CA dates. where'd you find those ones?
phil
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Fri 07/11/03 Goleta, CA Hard To Find Sat 07/12/03 San Luis Obispo, CA SLO Brewing Company Mon 07/14/03 San Francisco, CA Bottom Of The Hill Tue 07/15/03 San Francisco, CA Bottom Of The Hill Wed 07/16/03 Palo Alto, CA The Edge
Brrr
USA -

And a date in Arizona...July 24th....but with the luck Arizona has been getting...eerrrr...who knows.
Andrew
Phoenix, AZ -

ooh yeah i forgot to mention...
once you click on the thumb nail you'll get to a slightly larger photo, and under that it'll say "get original uploaded photo" or something similar. Click that to get the image in its full size, alot of the time its the only way the pic will get any justice.
natalie
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not fair! i wanna see theSTART + onelinedrawing together. I can rant for days about how amazing i think Jonah is but i think i'll save that for later.
So my computer is still broken but i uploaded my pics from ny,ma + ct yesterday. only problem is i couldn't edit them at all, which kind of annoys me, but whatever. click my name...
natalie
ny -

poor jenny. *tsk tsk*
punchy
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stefanie gave the band name. www.onelinedrawing.com. they are just dates in Texas and California.
phil
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phil what new dates? where?
confused jenny
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NEW DATES! fabulous... i wonder if it's gonna be a full tour or just them opening for the band on these dates? hopefully they will stop by in chicago sometime during late july! (so i'll be here) jenny, we shall dance...
phil
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if you live in texas there are new dates for july on the onelinedrawing site.
stefanie
philadelphia, -

hey will, nice photos. were u using a manual camera? if so what kind? and did u use a flash?
jenny
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A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX.
punchy
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are the start still playing in tucson on may 29th? and if so where?
carissa <neatosweetiepie@hotmail.com>
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you can still access the site at: http://www.thisisthestart.com/index1.html I am not sure what has happened.. looks like there has been a glitch with the domain.. will try to get it straightened out ...~human
human
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You guys were so awesome live in Anniston. It was completely unreal. I hope you guys can come to Atlanta soon! The people here will love you!
Natalie Clark <Fr0mCha0s@msn.com>
Conyers, GA USA -

hey hey! great start back at twilight in tampa. i have posted PHOTOS from that show online! http://www.morphusphotography.com in the bands section of course :)
will hawkins <morphus@morphusphotography.com>
tampa, fl usa -

the start rox!
Gaby Madrid <Miss_Margera666_CKY@yahoo.com>
Temple City, ca USA -

heh, didn't mean to sound nasty... sorry about that if i did.
phil
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uuh, if your idea of a long time is like 3 days or so, sure. it hasn't been THAT long though. my guess is that whoever is managing the site doesn't have time right now to fix it but i'm sure it will be back soon. probably when they finish with this tour before going with alkaline.
phil
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SERIOUSLY, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS UP WITH THE BANDS OFFICIAL SITE?????? ITS BEEN F*D UP FOR A LONG TIME NOW!
ratgirl22 <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
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puke on bass! oh man! puke what bass will u be playing? brand model, etc. lol BREAK A LEG! dont be nervous, and pretend everyone (EXCEPT GIRLS UNDER THE AGE OF 17) are in their unmetionables.
jenny
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hey dena, hes in the band "army of freshman" http://www.armyoffreshman.com you can get his email of there. yes sarahs final show, i got her final set list, one of my pals got her bass. good deal.
Johnny L <RNRriot@aol.com>
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who I'd like to see on bass (at least temporarily since he has his own band stuff I think): Dorian Heartsong, ex pm5k.
a fan
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Your show last night in Austin was fucking amazing. It's ok if you "don't speak." Get some rest, but never go home. Come back to Austin soon. YOU ROCK!
CrashGrab <crashgrab@hotmail.com>
Austin, Tx -

I went to the Austin show to night kicked ass but I was wondering if any one knew the guy int he level 27 hoodie... if so can you hook me up with his E-mail? ... weird post but since i cant really find a message board for thestart that is up dated often I thought I would post here
Dena <punkie_rocker_bruster@yahoo.com>
Austin, TX 78750 -

Haha yay for Puke! I want to be the new bassist...even thought I don't have a bass and don't know how to play but shh, they'd never know. But anyways, does anyone have an extra ticket to the June show at the Glasshouse that they would want to sell/give to me? Email me.
Jes(sic)a <IVIanicXsubsidal@aol.com>
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awww basspukeman. i want to go.
punchy
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I want to road trip to Tucson!
Vern
Tempe, AZ Mooo -

I want to know about the tuscon show aswell!
GOJOE <mzkchik18@yahoo.com>
PHX, AZ USA -

So the Thursday show is canceled? If "the WED. is the last night of the tour"?
Drew
Phoenix, AZ USA -

confusing, isn't it? this has to be the strangest tour so far. crazyness abound.
so, the el paso show, last nite of the current tour. it's not cancelled by any means. it's gonna be with the voodoo glow skulls at the empire and it should rock like hell. here's a little twist, i'm playing bass for theStart that nite. hahahahahaha, it's true! now don't come bugging me about what's happening with alkaline because i know about as much as all of you do. i'm not their new bassist or anything like that. the only reason i'm mentioning anything is just to clear up any confusion about the show wednesday. news travels fast, especially digitally. so c'mon down and check it out, it should be tons of fun. see you soon.
Puke Everyday
~repukement~ <puke@rock.com>
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the site's still up here, dudes: http://www.blackenedangel.com/designs/
brian
cornwall, pa -

hey, thats really weird, not only is thisisthestart.com gone all kaputz, but ive tried like 3 times to post here and its not working. i hope this one does. anyway, its funny how the new that is up on thisisthestart.com is really old. its posting their "new" ep for the 1234. wierd. how long has it been that way? i havent been on the site for about 4 days.
ratgirl22
fontana, ca usa -

hey, ya whats going on? thisisthestart.com is all f'd-up! and its funny cuz that one news that is posted is really old, cuz its talking about thier "new" 1234 album. weird.
ratgirl22 <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
fontana, ca usa -

What should I assume about the Tucson, AZ May 29th (this thursday) show? With it still being listed TBA and Sara leaving a few days before, is it going to be canceled?
Drew <guszmiller@cox.net>
Phoenix, AZ USA -

whoa. that's really weird... umm, something is going on with sites dealing with interscope and they used to be under a division of interscope when shakedown was released, so something must have happened to the site.
phil
chicago, -

Hey does anyone know what happened to the official website now it is just news and that news is old so if anyone knows please tell me. Thanks
Brett Rubin <Moviemaniac1026@aol.com>
Odessa, FL USA -

hmm, too bad that sarah left. i hope they don't have trouble finding someone for alk3. maybe SUPER JEFF will step in! i wonder if they are gonna be doing new songs for the 7" release... i hope so.
phil
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7" info: split with kissing chaos...limited to 1000...released though Lorelei Records..to be pressed this summer. OUT p.s. see you in s.a. and austin town.
JohnnyL <RNRriot@aol.com>
Austin, TX USA -

id like to elect eno for the job.
punchy
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it is. :( i wonder who's going to be the new bassist. ...maybe they'll do this huge fan search like limp bizkit did...oh yeah... ha ha
jenny
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so may 26th is sarah's last show with the band?
punchy
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23/5/03 my beau was playing internet pool with sarah saturday yday, i was disappointed to hear, when he told her i had seen you guys in brighton, england last halloween she said she was sure The Start had never played there! You guys f*&^ing rocked along with Strung Out and local band The Ordinary Boys. i lost ur 'death via Sattelite' case *swry* tho i still have the cd-phew-but then the other day i was cleaning my table and accidently wiped away th sticker my friend bought me at the gig too-Noooo! God-why do you mock me??! please come back to blighty soon so i can replace them! p.s am seein AFI in 2wks today up in London-YAY :)
bonsai <k8alina4@yahoo.co.uk>
england -

hey whats up every body I'm here to tell u guys about Kick Ass New Metal band called E-RACE from Bakersfield, CA. Click the link and check'em out , U'll be glad u did!!!
abram <defshank13@aol.com>
La, CA U.S -

or not...?

USA -

lovely sarah...saving face. http://www.savingfaceband.com
travis
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Can anyone tell me the name of the bassist that is currently filling in, and what other band she is in?
Tim <jadeashes@hotmail.com>
Orlando, Fl USA -

Does anyone know what the bass player's name is on their current tour. She is awesome and yet I don't see her listed on the offical site. Is she filling in for someone else and what bands is she from?
b <br053889@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
whorelando, fl -

i don't know what happened to those songs (i think i remember reading "flying machine" didn't go well when they went into the studio to re-record it for the album) but i really hope they bring back "the sin original" or put up a demo or something because i really wanna hear it. and does anyone remember how "veil" is? i know they played it a few years back...
phil
chicago, -

but when they ride their motorcycles we all know where they go to party <3 next time maaan.
stefanie
philly, -

see, we should have went to north hampton.
punchy
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Stefanie, Punchy, Mike and whoever else was at the Flywheel show (in MA) i just heard from a little birdie that Kim Gordon (and Thurston Moore and Lee Renaldo) live in NORTH HAMPTON, MA. hahaha!
natalie
ny -

ooops, its supposed to said excuse *me mr. puke,..
jenny again
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excuse mr. puke, its MISS jenny. get it right! whoa, i felt all dominatric-ish just then... anyways malcom-exams blow. i just finshed my finals, HELLOOOO SUMMER BREAK! WOO! *goes crazy, like a crazy college student out of college on break*
jenny jen jen
chicago, -

and that would be *especially* if i could spell.
natalie
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aww thanks guys :o) a split seven, huh? where did you hear this?!?
are Be Mine, Flying Machine, veil + the sin original ever going to make it to a release? i was listening to the first 2 today (first time in about a year) and i forgot how much i love them. espically flying machine <33
natalie
ny -

i <3 natalies pictures. i think its weird we've heard nothing about this 7"
punchy
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hm anyone else heard about the split with kissing chaos? any details? anyone? anyone?
travis
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natalie, those pics friggin rock! why do you think they are bad? i like them lots... thanks for sharing.
phil
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Mia - i got the cd today. thanks.
Stefanie! as soon as i get my computer back i'll upload everything and send them yr way, but for now you can use the pics i had from 2001. Anyone else who wants to see them is welcome (mind you they suck - disposable camera + light leak = bad bad bad) Click on my name. [click on the thumb nail to get a semi larger view, there will be a link under the pic saying *view original uploaded photo* or something similar. its the only way the picture will be done any justice.
new deftones tomorrow!
Natalie
ny -

I really hate exams.

And Puke, was that "See you soon?" A subtle hint that another UK tour is in the offing? Please, I could do with some good news today. On the plus side, I have tickets to see Radiohead in November. \m/
Metal Malcolm
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heres my website so you guys can check it out i for got it on my last post hehe... www.iamlipstick.com
jaycee <lipstick1480@yahoo.com>
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Hello everybody, Aimee if you read this I seriously doubt you remember me but I saw you guys play here (in el paso) awhile ago and i talked to you for like 20 seconds then i had to leave but you signed my copy of your ep ..hehe anyway i just wanted to let you guys know that this time around I'm gonna be opening for you guys along with Devices in Shift another band from el paso, tx....on wednesday May 30th.....I'm so looking forward to it and i hope you guys have fun and be safe on the road.... take care, jaycee
jaycee <Lipstick1480@yahoo.com>
El Paso, TX USA -

light it on fire and you've got moses on your shoe <3 it's not the same without puke. i love you dude. ah well. punchy and i are in the process of updating our geeky website. sorry fiona, no creepy photo essay. once natalie sends her photos over (HINTTTT) we will have 500+. ceeeeelebrate good times, COME ON!
stefanie <sms52@drexel.edu>
philadelphia, pa -

haha fieldys dreams. i tihnk i know of this beer pong puke. i was watching that fraternity life show and i believe they created some kind of beer pong table, it was...interesting.
punchy
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yay stefanie! stay cool and have a great summer. k.i.t. gym class was swell. i must introduce the west coast to beer pong. is anybody in the know about this? it's something else, lemme tell you.

malcolm, i've mostly been listening to cds purchased from bands who play the same shows as theStart. heiruspecs, as ms. jenny mentioned, are fucken cool. they're like the roots but their dj is actually one of the mc's vocal chords. he plays/sings other instruments too. then of course coheed and cambria, also this pianist amanda rogers who tours with onelinedrawing, jeph from the used burned me copies of both lovage and secret chiefs and they rule, stephanie introduced me to the cd of a band called shat, and we just got fieldy's dreams and it's a work of art.
and so we press onward. see you soon?.
~chunder asunder~
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hey phil i posted the setlist to today's show on the other board, but just so you know the show on the 13th was at the bloomfield ave cafe in montclair, nj not the hamilton st in boundbrook, and the show on the 16th was at the harmony grange in wilmington, delaware and not johnstown, pa. the setlist last night was much like the previous, BUT i found out i was wrong and gorgeous came before hi flyer. today's show was short but good, and i am going to miss that band like nobody's business. until we meet again..
stefanie
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if it helps, the setlist for the may 6th lancaster show was 1234/los angelos/death via satellite/gorgeous/hi flyer/nemesis/shakedown! nothing unusual, but still thoroughly rock-ass.
brian
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sent it on over. thanks punchy ;) thesetlists for those of you who don't venture over to the other speakout.
phil
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yeeah philly <3 email it to me! i saw the site, its fabulous <3
punchy <punchelette@aol.com>
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punchy, if you have an aol address, i can email it to you through there, otherwise i can send it to you thru aim next time. thanks for the offer too.
phil
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natalie, they have been sent out. If you don't get it by the 19th or 20th of this month the mail system here is seriously screwed. Let me know either way. AIM is blueamphetamine .
valentine
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tonight's show in wilmington was the best middle school prom EVA!!! but seriously, any other band would've thrown a shit riot and given the hell up considering the sound problems they had in that place, but noooo - aimee hopped into the crowd and sang her heart out amongst everyone. very cool. <3 aaaanyway, i can't wait for philly tomorrow.
brian <d2brian@mailcity.com>
cornwall, pa -

someone better send me the gorgeous video damn it. phil if you need help with a main page i can assist you probably :)
punchy
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Mia.
whats the deal with the tribute cds? i sent you my address again like you asked. did you have a problem or something? anyway get back to me and let me know.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

ah, there you are, mr. m. lemme know if everything is ok with the file. i think there's about a 5 second part where the video doesn't move and it's just the audio, but other than that, it's all good. thanks for that, stef. i'm gonna update those now and try to get a main page up so you guys can check it out so far...
phil
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natalie you better shimmy pat benetar style. WE AAAARE YOUNG! phil, the setlists are almost the same every night but i'm still not totally sure i'm correct: 1234, los angelos, death via satellite, hi flyer/gorgeous/nemesis (i think that's the right order but any two of those might be in the wrong place; i'll doublecheck tonight), shakedown, breed. last night in baltimore they played glimmer man as an encore.
stefanie
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ah phil, you are glorious. please god email it to me asap? trashboyx@yahoo.com <3 <3
miguel
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stefanie, have you been writing down the setlists by any chance? i wanna put them up on my page... the last one i have is the CT show.
phil
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the show they played at tribeca in nyc on wed was pretty awesome. i can't wait to shimmy on down to the philly show. AIMEE, you better listen to those cds already! xoxo
natalie
ny -

fucking rad show in baltimore last night... loads of start kids; they even got an encore? and all the other bands ruled. I DON'T WANT TO STOP GOING TO SHOWS. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME. i'm updating the directory with a few live photos.
stefanie
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mike, i have it on my computer at home and i can forward it to your email when i get there. does that sound a-ok?
phil
chicago, -

anyone with a way for me to get a downloadable version of the gorgeous video would help me immensely in a project that will not only benefit myself but hopefully the band as well (STEFANIEPUNCHYNATALIE aaah it's coming out so damn good you guys are going to love it i think?!) but yes, um, any help with the gorgeous video would rule, thanks. (and yes, i know i can stream it, i can't use a stream)
miguel
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http://www.spastica.net/stuff/sparklemotion
stefanie
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ill model them. i seriously own all every style of shirt except for 2, the eno shirt and the regular theSTART shirt with circle next too it. im so weird. i think i want the eno shirt now too.
punchy
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erm, nope
Keith O'Callaghan <ta1yn178@hotmail.com>
merseyside, outside US United Kingdom -

new shirt?! i'm so buying that if they decide to come back here.
phil
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woooooo new merch! \m/
jenny
chicago, sleepy -

it's a new design.. it says THE START and then underneath there's a picture of a satellite and it says "DEATH VIA SATELLITE" ... way cool 3/4 sleeved baseball shirt, white with black sleeves. the other new shirts are: the heart shirt in baby pink, and two logo shirts with the current logo slightly modified (looks more like theSTART than THE START if you can visualize that), one in black on red and one in silver on black. THEY RULE. the end.
stefanie
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stefanie- what design was on the baseball shirt?
travis
oh -

punchy you're now the proud owner of a new baseball shirt and a black and silver logo shirt. the new merch rocks. i will be acquiring some of my own later today hopefully... last night was pretty cool, new york today; hopefully i manage to get home somehow.... more later.
stefanie
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"anonymous" poster - battle of the bands contests are ALWAYS bullshit. it's about who brings the most people, who is best friends with the judges, and who can do a dumb squiddly solo, not who the best band is.
kenickie
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and for the record, the board isn't the speakout, or infact in anyway start-related. I post here purely cos it's got the least chance of being read by anyone related...
"
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Say, hypothetically, you were in a band. Say this band took part in a local Battle of the bands, and despite playing a brilliant set, were not given a place in the final. Consider a second hypothetical band. This band are not only remarkably boring, but also came 2nd, thus getting a finals place.
If this hypothetical individual were to go to his local bands message board, posting under a psuedonym, and protesting about just how useless the second band are, would this be wrong?

I apologise if this makes no sense.
A regular poster who won't reveal his name for obvious reasons.
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yo the start fucking makes me so happy that there is still good music
Brad
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Hell-o! I cant wait till the 28th of May. Thats when the Start will be coming back to El Paso. To all the people who want to have a guaranteed awesome time: Show up and bring your dancing shoes. Youre gonna need 'em!
Angel <AngOrope@aol.com>
El Paso, TX USA -

natalie i so want to do Philly. Lets talk. A train from my home to Philly would cost 60 freaking dollars, and im kinda poor, so I dont know about that. We have to figure something out. Stefanie (from MA) is considering driving to at least CT and doing something from there. This will be an exciting journey to say the least.
punchy
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this weekend was amazing. full of lots of good music, exciting suprises (electra!!!), and fantastic company (i <3 stefanie + punchy). And to think i'm doing it all again this wednesday in NYC (and maybe even in philly). I officially declare that theSTART and local h are the only bands allowed to do nirvana covers. this band gets better every time you see them, and i'm glad that number now exceeds the number of fingers i have on both hands. It was great meeting Sara and the lovely Fiona, and the little crew from MA. Lets do this again sometime.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

thank you for that, ohpunchyone. i put them up at my site which will hopefully be up sometime soon but i dont have a main page yet and im having trouble finding Hero dates in 1999 and dates in 2000. human gave me some... can anyone help?
phil
chicago, -

dear phil, i cannot remember what songs exactly they played everynight but if you IM me i will try to give you my best testimony as to what they played here is my guess. 9th: 1234, los angelos, dvs, hi-flyer, gorgeous, nemesis, shakedown, breed, electra 10th: 1234, los angelos, dvs, hi-flyer, glimmer man, gorgeous, nemesis, shakedown, breed 11th 1234, los angelos, dvs, hiflyer, gorgeous, nemesis, shakedown, breeed. I THINK. I can't rememebr if they even played hi-flyer all 3 nghts, but i think they did. I do know that the last 2 songs are right and the first 2 sogns are right. hehe
punchy
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videotaping action sounds good, cant wait to see it. do you remember what they played those dates? i wanna put the sites on my site... thanks.
phil
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Ah well. Headrush may be playing their last gig at Junktion 7 tonight. It's the last heat of the Battle of the bands, so anyone in the nottingham area who wants to come and watch would be appreciated. Come on, there's gotta be someone in america with enough cash for a flight and time on their hands.....or maybe not.
Metal Malcolm
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we intend to cross OUR fingers, for you. yes.
miguel cannot type
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5/8 5/10 5/11 = <3 <3 <3 finally got my thestart fix, thank god. and as stefania mentioned, yes. the show tonight has been filmed and an amazingly well responded to interview was as well. discussions still need to be held as to what will dominantly happen with this superb footage, but i can assure you that everyone will be seeing it soon. also, PUKEMASTAFRESH. not sure where you were hiding post-interview but our apologies for not bidding you farewell. we still intend to cross your fingers for you. *wink*
miguel
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just got back from the weekend's excursions, dead tired but i can't wait to do some more! wonderful show tonight and it was FILMED so hopefully you can all appreciate how totally super cool awesome tonight was via computer screens... i love punchy and natalie.
stefanie
PHILLY FINALLY, -

malcolm - you missed us actually. it was the other night. but as i got back from america the day before i didn't have a chance to post about it. :(
kenickie
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Kenickie - Nice one. Do I recall seeing King Monkey down to play Rock City soon?
Metal Malcolm
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HWP the other band did a cover of 'i feel you' by DM. but that was along time ago.
richard
whittier, -

The Start is fucking awesome!!!
Willy Dunsmore <wdunsmore1519@aol.com>
Mesa, AZ USA -

they did do a cover of siouxsie 'love in a void' at one point... the shows are going pretty damn awesome so far <3 "human waste project? was that a band?" "no, it was a grocery store..."
stefanie
um i'm in conneticut?, -

question for the band. Would the band do a cover song? If you (the band) were to do a cover song, who would it be? Bauhaus, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Depeche Mode, or Echo & the Bunnymen?...
Art <Jack6skellington@aol.com>
los angeles, ca usa -

malcolm - i'm not really into their music, but i'm really proud of darren (d-bridge). he lived with us for a long time and it makes me really happy that he's successful nowadays. plus, he's lending me a MD eight track to do some recording. ;)
kenickie
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Kenickie - Is there anyone I respect that you DON'T have a connection to? )EIB( are stupidly good.
Metal Malcolm
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i can't believe they played "electra," lucky ducks.
phil
chicago, -

Show was awesome last night. if anyone needs pictures. I have A MILLION haha
Kimmie <xforeverasonex@aol.com>
Coram, NY USA -

the show at the ultrasound lounge was quite awesome.
punchy
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Gay Prom is this saturday. but i'm outta town. too bad.
Meg
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Punchy ~ So sorry! I would have come and brought you had I saw the message before I left! :( Stef ~ Probably not. The rents are out this weekend so im having a lil party :) I'm gonna try for either the show tonight or sunday though. Most likely sunday.
Jake
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i feel bad for flooding the boards with our girly posts, but i must shave my legs now and i needed to share. also i got my first paycheck for 42 dollars.
punchy
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i'm all dolled up and ready for the prom show and i have an hour and a half before it's even mildly necessary for me to leave... time to load up on peppermints! i twitch in anticipation <3 jake can we expect to see you in easthampton?
stefanie
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well if you took me to worcester last night i might have been able to help you :P actually im taking the train so yahh.
punchy
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Gahhhh I wanna go to the show tonight but I don't have enough gas money :( Anyone from around here wanna go with me and help fund the trip? :)
Jake
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im going to long island tonight. ive been awake since 5:00 and im planningon going to school for a few hours. i was suppose to wear formal wear, but i couldn't get any fishnet tights or white tights so im screwed. ANYWAYS. im planning on dancing tonight. remember your shoes!
punchy
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if you see someone in a white collared shirt and jeans with an industrial barbell in their right ear, don't say hello cos it's totally not mike. k.
stefanie
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who can i expect to see in worcester this evening? i'm wearing a white collared shirt and jeans. got an industrial barbell in my left ear, come say hellooo.
mike
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Hey my fishmongers! seen you tour here with Strung Out-very fun! are you cumin to Scotland again soon? hope so! Anyway i gotta go! by the way the singer is hot!
nick <pure_mad_mento_chicken_oriento@yahoo.co.uk>
South_ayrshire, 123 Scotland -

Fantastic, Stefanie. I'll be expecting your call - Also, thank you for calling tonight to wish me a happy birthday, and take a shot of Jager in my Honor...I love you to pieces. You're quite wonderful.
Nikki <nikkimw@excite.com>
medford, or usa -

Hey guys. I saw you guys in March 2003 at Jannus Landing in FL when you guys opened up for the Used. You guys were f-ing amazing and the bassist that played with you guys.... she's a real cutie ;-) Peace you guys, keep on playing. ~Hixxy
Hixxy <e311@email.com>
St. Pete, FL -

i would walk, but i have school tommarow!
punchy.
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start walking punchy, its good for the legs!
jenny
chicago, -

damn it, that counts me out...
stefanie
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i want to go to worcester tommarow to see the show, but im in southern CT, with no ride. does someone want to pick me up? no people with the intent to kill please.
punchy <punchelette@aol.com>
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malcolm - d-bridge from bad company is my cousin.
kenickie
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Ahhhh, I really wish you would come here soon.
Emma <deadly_nightshade@elitemail.org>
Glasgow, Scotland -

You guys better play Glasgow again soon, I saw you last year when you played with Strung Out....we need more!
Emma <deadly_nightshade@elitemail.org>
Glasgow, Scotland -

The Start rocks, and Sunday May 25th at SIN13 in San Antonio Tx with a killer line up that's only in S.A. TX : The Start, Perk, Dynamite Boy, Army of Freshman, Kissing Chaos (formerly Pop-Unknown), Cruiserweight, and The Teliskas. www.geocities.com/perknotdead, www.dynamiteboy.com,www.kissingchaos.net,www.cruiserweight.com, www.theteliskas.com Please come on out and support The Start and check out these great bands. Pre-sale available at Hogwild record shop, and at SIN13 210.785.9461 or sin13.com
Angel M. <UTRProductions1@aol.com>
San Antonio, Tx USA -

I must admit all I know of dieselboy is that he IS DnB in america, but really, check out Dillinja and )EIB( (Bad company UK). They kick my sweet little ass.

Only joking. My ass is nowhere near little.
Metal Malcolm
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Great job in Baffalo last night. Just got home after my three hour drive to see you play well worth it and i got to see some new bands that rock. Cant wait to see you again.
jack
Syaracuse, NY -

metal malcom- i loooooove drum and bass. i listen to a lot of diesl boy. and BT, which isnt DnB but still... I heard this awesome hip hop band saturday whenthey played with thestart, heruspecs is the name, but unsure if its spelled correctly. yes. the shows May 2nd and 3rd in La Crosse ruled..i cant stop smiling. :)
miss jenny
chi chi chicago, -

well hopefully they mean a plane ride and you're coming to visit.. have a good birthday though. i'll call you from the prom show <3 ahh gad that just turned into peaches' 'rock show' in my head... PROM SHOW! YOU CAAAME TO SEE A PROM SHOW! YOU CAAAAAME TO SEE IT! someone tell me i'm not the only person in the whole world who finds her loathsome.
stefanie
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I love you too Michael. Stefanie, I expect phone calls this week, woman. Not on the 7th though...apparently Laura and Co are kidnapping me for my Birthday and taking me somewhere that is 5 hours from my home...that is all I know. Love you cupcake.
Nikkeh <nikki@jager.com>
Medford, OR USA -

weellll
punchy
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YAY! The start is coming back to my town,may 19th. Hey Sarah,you probably dont remember me,hell you might not ever even read this,but im the kid who said he was gonna marry you oneday at the Janus Landing show with The Used,and Stun. I just wanted to say hey and tell you im definatly gonna be at that show!!! Oh and by the way,even though it was aboout your boyfriend,I loved"I love her dude" vol.1. IS there is a vol.2 yet,cause I want it!
Ryan <Emexpeex5987@aol.com>
Tampa, Fl USA -

can theSTART play Glasgow when they are next touring the UK? please? [davey]
davey <xteenagedeathboyx@hotmail.com>
Glasgow, Scotland -

Interesting concept. I like the idea of a chris morris/chuck morris crossover. My brain is also melting. That's nice. :)
Metal Malcolm
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i just ignored your line about artists without guitars :P i also thought chris morris said chuck norris. hmmm/
punchy
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stefanie, i so want to buy you a corsage now. dear malcom, i have been listening to the faint, rilo kiley, hot hot heat, and the white stripes a lot.
punchy
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I'm curious as to what people on the speakout listen to other than theSTART, give me examples people, and let's try and restrict it to artists who don't use guitars.
If you're wondering what brought this on, i'm going to a Drum and Bass allnighter tonight that i've been looking forward to for months. Anyone on here live near miami and go to the Ram night at the WMC recently? And everyone should go and download "Elm Street" by Fresh )EIB( and "Twist 'em out" by Dillinja. Because I said so.
Also, has anyone bought the new Chris Morris DVD and felt incredibly ripped off despite the fact it was brilliant because it was only 10 mins long?
I apologise. I shouldn't post when i'm stoned.

Metal Malcolm, self appointed head of the "Get theSTART to play nottingham on the next UK tour organisation" or GtSTPNOTNUKTO for those with an overwhelming urge to abbreviate.
Metal Malcolm
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punchy are you buying me a corsage? save a dance for me <3
stefanie
wo, nj -

im excitied. friday will hopefully allow me to partake in dancing (in formal wear!)michealangelo, we must tan!
punchy
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Look! Aimee Echo #29 on missminx.com's 100 women in rock! http://www.missminx.com/poll2.html
Shannon <shannon@unearthed.com>
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I love The Start. You guys are the best! And to all the adoring fans, keep on rocking and being you. Support the band. Spread the word. I'm doing my part to inform all the people in my community about one of the greatest bands. Rock On!
Kassie Logsdon <Finchrox16@aol.com>
Crestline, CA 92325 -

ohh, less than a week until worcester. *glow* i will have thestart for my face and a SMALL DOG. ohhh. also.. stefania, nikkeh, and punchy? I LOVE YOU, DUDE. NO. REALLY. kthatsallbye.
miguel <trashboyx@yahoo.com>
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nine? thats it! psssh. :P
punchy
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Stef, NINE shows? You're hilarious - yet too awesome for words.
Nikki <nikkimw@excite.com>
Medford, OR USA -

omg. lancaster! omg omg omg omg omg!! *DIES*
TAP <colleen@fkrock.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -

leaving in like.. 15 mins for omaha to see thestart! YEYEYEYEY hopefully nothing wierd will happen like the last time they came to town, I want to see them play :-/ *crosses fingers*
Cindy
Lincoln, NE -

Hey...while you're touring the world...why not head down to new jersey on 5/13 and go to bloomfield avenue cafe? looks like a good show
Dave
West Orange, NJ -

Any word on how Aimee is doing after what happened at the water street music hall in rochester? Iv been wondering how she is doing. Cant wait till monday in Buffalo NY. Have a good one every body.
Jack Meneilly <neff4@att.net>
NY -

naaatalie... to levittown, maybe? shall we go? if we go, is there any way you can pick punchy up from new york or get her on a convenient bus or train or something so we can meet there? this trip just got more interesting... apparently this show is prom clothes-themed? HELLO. email me and let me know what's up. I'M NOT INSANE I'M JUST GOING TO TOO MANY SHOWS AT ONCE.
stefanie
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Heh, that's possible... I just remember someone telling me that they had "Gorgeous" on at Gadzooks (I never shop in there) and it was the video, too. Like whoaaaaaaaa.
Phil
Chicago, -

you know what phil, i think i heard them on some place once and i freaked out...it could have been gadzooks, but i hate that store...yeah...maybe it was contempo that i heard it..i dont know..ill leave now.
jenny
chi town, -

i love your music,keep on rockin...love yas all xoxoxo!
rachel <vamparellaM>
shock an rock, n.y halloween town -

im so silly. i thought the song was gorgeous but as i was thinking about it i realized that they like the 1234 and death via satellite, not gorgeous. but anyways still cool.
punchy
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Punchy, that's awesome! Haha, I would have never known... I haven't heard them played in any public places before, but I've heard random claims that they've played "Gorgeous" on the monitors in Gadzooks or whatever.
Phil
Chicago, -

apparently hollywood video loves thestart? as i was watching the training videos for all new employees (thats me) i was shocked to hear the opening lines of gorgeous. i was even more shocked to hear death via satellite. <33
punchy
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SATURDAY!!!!!!!! BE SAFE AND YEAH, ROCK ON!!!!!!
karen
flagstaff, AZ -

Happy birthdaaaaay Miss Saturday! :D
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
Sammamish, WA -

happy birthday to sarah saturday. today shes 23 :)
six <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
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i personally love the start and aimee echo is my idole. when i went to the concert on feb.15 at the trabadour i got a hug from aimee and a pick from the guitarists and it was great.i have known the start for a while now and i encourage people to listen to them cause they not only play good music but they are great people to they have wonderfull personalities. well ive got to get goin so bye and hopefully i have a chance to see the start again one day.
sandra <geekalousis@yahoo.com>
lake forest, cali. orange county -

m is a meanie :: sniffles :: and like, thanks for the birthday wishes! Woohoo. Vegan Chocolate Mousse for my birthday cake is like, really "hella good" for sure. <3
valentine
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happy belated bday to green mia
m
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happy belated birthday ms.mia valentine!
random
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One week from tomorrow a three hour drive to see them again. Wish they could come to Syaracuse NY. It will be well worth the drive. Nice plug on Smallville also.
Jack Meneilly <neff4@att.net>
West Monroe, NY -

hey whos going to show in nj on 5/13? my first time seeing the start, i cant wait
Dave <Visitor008@yahoo.com>
West Orange, NJ -

hey! theSTART are amazing! very unknown over here, but I love them! keep it up =)
David <xteenagedeathboyx@hotmail.com>
Glasgow, Scotland -

natalie check your damn email!! we have less than TWO WEEKS until we head on out <3
stefanie <the_menace@drexel.edu>
philly, pa -

sarah and andy rock.. support them :) http://www.iloveherdude.com
me
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i HEART theSTART!! ..never posted here before
..gina..
Jtown, -

to quote my friend after her telling me she heard theSTART on smallville..."my friends were talking about what a great song and band they were after they heard it "
wooo! anyways i picked up the VAUX cd last week and i can't stop listening to it. i wish i could have seen theSTART + vaux play together.
natalie
ny -

http://heretics.bythethroat.org/ a heretic directory. check it out. fill it out. it's all for the band kiddies... xoxoxo SiX
SiX <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

AFI tomorrow anyone? I heard the San Diego show had a bad crowd, people pulling Davey down when he crowd walked, people yelling "Fag", etc. If anyone acts like this at Hollywood I will kill.
Jes(sic)a
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<3 my little brother's band just got added to the START show in montclair. which means my parents agreed to go. uhh. this is gonna be an interesting show...?! who else is going?
stefanie
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Chris, I have a couple of him - e-mail me and i will send to you...
Fiona <feeski@mac.com>
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Does anyone have any pictures of Brian Ferrero playing at a show? It was impossible to get a pic of him at Saturday's show with Cave-In? I need it for my article. I'll give credit if I get one! Thanks-
Chris <fluxdiablo@hotmail.com>
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the start is awesome. my sister got me listening to them a while back. i heard them on smallville, thought it was cool to hear you guys on a show like that. shakedowns a great song. and it was played while lana was kicking some major booty. hahaha. yyeah. . . rock on! ROCK ON AIMEE --> later
allison <twistedkitty29@aol.com>
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cccoomments? - um yeah, the start is great. rock on aimee echo! woo woo
allison <twistedkitty29@aol.com>
south amboy, nj united states -

Glad someone noticed them from "Shakedown!" being played in Smallville. Welcome to theSTART and have some fun... are you going to get the album?
Phil
Chicago, -

I heard the song on smallville and I thought it was great. THen i saw the cd cover and knew i had to check it out. So then i went here. And i Heard Gorgeous and now I am a big fan..
mario telarico <mariot21@yahoo.com>
waterloo, ny usa -

hey there, went to the all american rejects show here in austin today and saw this girl that looked very familar, then i decided to approach her, and yep it was the one and only sarah saturday...she was cool ........
Johnny L. <RNRriot@aol.com>
Austin, TX USA -

I first learned of theStart when I lived in Seattle. I've been a fan and finally got a chance to see the band here in San Diego. It was inspiring. I thought it was a shame when Aimee said theStart were no longer on the record label and I was afraid the band would just quietly dissipate into that ether that dissipated bands float around in. Well HaaA-lle-luiah!!! Despite my never watching television, miraculously I just caught you on Smallville. Congrats on the publicity! I will definitely catch your next show in San Diego. Also, thank you for creating music that evokes something...anything. So many bands, these days, are void of that. ~low j
Jenna <mishupishu@hotmail.com>
San Diego, CA USA -

Hey I just heard your guy's song on smallville and loved it! Hope you guy's come to Indiana or Chicago soon! <3 *~Meg~*
Megan <Meg_55@ilovechocolate.com>
Portage, IN USA -

Jamie, Just wanted to say hello and that I am going to try and make your show in Balt. I hope you have been well! Tell your family I said hello! Take care, Rob Brubaker www.SUISONIC.com
Rob Brubaker <robbrubaker@hotmail.com>
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I believe it was Shalroth who took the pic? lovely man.

Hope you're well Jen. I only have the pic of me and Echo unfortunately.
Metal Malcolm
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so how was the show? the faint show was superb btw. -richard
richard
whittier, ca -

TO ALL THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE MIDWEST: thestart's playing 2 shows in LaCrosse Wisconsin May 2nd and 3rd..which is a friday and saturday...My suggestion is we all converge on these days go to the shows and hang out. let me know if you would be interested so i can get some group rates for hotels. email me or contact me via aim: toolmidget hope to see you there! peace jenny
jenn <ToolMidget@msn.com>
chicago, il -

has anyone got a copy of the picture that i had taken with the start and malcolm, at the gig you guys did in manchester, when you played with Strung Out, cos that guy never sent it me, i give him my address and everything....if you could please xxxxxxxxx
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yah>
manchester, uk -

hey guys, hows you been, not posted for ages computers been fucked....
bronagh - i remember the start from about then an all, they were great then, better now though

ooh, thats waht i came here for, has anyone that was at the start gig in manchester last year, there was a guy there who took a picture of me and my mates, with malcolm and the start, and i was wondereing if anyone has got a copy, and if they have can they send me a copy please....id love you for ever if you did....ta
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

i won it, on the contest on this site a looooong time ago. i have no idea where else you could get it :(
punchy
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Okay, that's cool. Where'd you get the sampler at? I've been trying to track down theSTART's releases. (I think I just need "the 1234" ep and the sampler now) I'm sure it's probably hard to find now.
Phil <mpagliaccim@aol.com>
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i have the sampler. im not sure if the gorgeous is the same as the album version ill have to listen to it again, but im with stefanie i think it might be diffrent because i remember when i bought the album gorgeous sounded diffrent. i think? ill get back to you.
punchy
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Err, I remember thestart being thestart while Mike was still in the band...before Shakedown! was released.
Bronagh
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That may be true, but in the credits in the Shakedown booklet, it says he played guitar on some songs. It doesn't specify which ones exactly, but he's still credited there so I don't think they took him off completely, but Jamie probably did redo Mike's main parts.
Phil
Chicago, -

buy TIX asap ellen! i can't wait to see you too! i'm leaving in 10 mins cause my interview with the band is at 5.
Chris
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Mike was in Hero and his picture appeared on the Start sampler but he was never in the Start. I heard that both Jamie and Mike played guitar on Circles but Jamie redid all of Mikes tracks once he was out of the band and they changed the name to the Start, and the name of the record to Shakedown.
jeff
silver springs, md -

i seem to recall the album version of gorgeous being a little different from the version used before that.
stefanie
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I think you're right, actually. After I posted, I remember a while ago seeing a little promo sampler with "Gorgeous" and "Nemesis" on it for theSTART and Mike was still on it instead of Jeff. I guess those would be the two songs that Mike plays on Shakedown? I'd actually like to hear that promo to see if there's any difference in the songs.
Phil
Chicago, IL -

Hey All, Haven't posted in a while. Hope everyone one is doing well. Cheers Timothy
Timothy <Timpossible@aol.com>
Buena Park, CA USA -

i think he was in theSTART. its kinda better without him, not to be mean or anything, but now jaime plays guitar and does keyboard, he use to do bass. It works better now I think.
punchy
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Why did Mike Smith leave theSTART anyway? Well, actually, I'm not even sure... was he in theSTART when they were called that? Or was he only in the band up to Hero...?
Phil
Chicago, IL -

class + fred durst does not = limpbizkit...no matter how you um, spell it.
jenny <toolmidget@msn.com>
chicago, il -

Chris! Can't wait to see you at the show. I haven't seen you in forever. I'm excited...lots of people are going. Btw, would it be safe if I just bought tickets at the door? It'd be a bummer to drive all the way to l.a. and find out its sold out.
Ellen
ca -

i guess you havent heard, its limpbizkit now. i suggest you get it right. i think the new punctuation gives them a little more class :P
punchy
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Good call whoever put up the Michael Moore info. Stupid white men is a great book. for any brits who somehow feel superior, I can suggest "Hard Work" by Polly Toynbee to set you straight.
One other thing has come to mind. It appears Mike Smith has been confirmed as the new Limp Bizkit guitarist. Just wondering if Jamie or Echo still speak to him, and what their thoughts are. Personally I think he's easily good enough for the job, and if it pays the bills, good for him, but he's still being wasted.

Oh, and a local band called Phoenix Down have supported Cave in in britain. We've supported them, so in the whole heirarchy of things, that would make us equal to....hmm.... a Uk tour support for theSTART?
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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i wish i could see theSTART again.....but i have to wait until june! :( why me!?! Be safe on the road! and ROCK ON!!!
karen
flagstaff, AZ -

I would say most likely they will play "Glimmer Man" on the 19th. And whoa, what a good first post here. I finally made it to the speak out. Woot.
Phil
Chicago, -

Rock on!
Stef Banis <goregirl323@yahoo.com>
Alpha, NJ 08865 -

Will theSTART play Glimmerman on the 19th?(Troubadour)
Evan McGraw <jughead049@aol.com>
Laguna niguel, ca usa -

Haha! ACE!?
Bronagh
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well why dont you objectify women a little bit more...especially a gem like aimee..
Jenny <ToolMidget@msn.com>
chicago, -

I know nothing of the band...but man, your lead vocalist? One fine piece of ACE...that is all...
Tarvis. (Ugh...by Tarvis I MEANT Travis...) <drdetroit75@lycos.com>
Boston, MA -

hey everyone..i'm going to be there saturday at the cave-in show...all you kidz get some nice rags and dancing shoes on cause i'll be there taking pics for my style page for the college paper (we're not a rinky-dink paper we've won best college newspaper in the us 10 years in a row) and i'm doing a feature on the band. If you wanna get on the page come up to me (unless i come to you in which case gotta look prettified- ties are a plus!). i'm the dork with the huge silver camera and black hair and--that doesn't describe me at all--oh hell i'm done with it i'll come to you...i'm off on a tangent we're 20 minutes away from printing and i'm a nervous wreck. i want to kill my copy editor and there's this guy jp- who was on the paper for like a day who has no bIZNESS being here -he wandered in here and is eating the krispy kreme donuts that I brought. he's 23 and balding and has the worst breath and plays the SIMS all day cause that's the closest he'll ever get to a girl. i want to kill everyone cause i have to pee and it's hot and why the hell did i ever decide to be a journalist? gawdddddddd
chris <fluxdiablo@hotmail.com>
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some video from the show in rochester. two 30 second clips. nemesis and 1234. can be found here :) http://www.geekiness.org/iloveherdude/video/
SiX
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if you're looking for lyrics go to thisisthestart.com human, or annyone who knows is the Hartford show 18+?
punchy
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hey aimee, i am in love with you and your band. i saw you guys for the first time today at Water Street and i bought your cd. would you put lyrics up for the songs in your self-titled cd? thanks a million!
sara <metalgirli@aol.com>
rochester, ny usa -

wow yeah I hope she feels better after that little blow to the head. good show!
G
rochester, ny -

I hope Amiee is feeling better after the Water Street show. I drove 2 hours to see you and it was worth it. Hope to see you again. Keep it up and hope you feel better Amiee. Later
Jack Meneilly <neff4@att.net>
west monroe, ny US -

Thanks...too bad it's when I'm in Southern California for the summer, but that means MORE shows in the LA area, so it's still a good thing. Anyways, thanks for the info!
Carrie
San Francisco, CA -

oops i thought she was talking about the one that they were ment to play with cave in on the 21st. :)
punchy
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I {{heart}} theSTART!
Evan McGraw <jughead049@aol.com>
Laguna Niguel, CA USA -

uuuuhh I think the Slims/San Francisco date is included on the Alkaline Trio/One Man Army/theSTART tour (June7-June 25)! NOT cancelled...STILL ON!
~human <human@thestart.org>
still free speech zone, Der Homeland -

I seen you guys last night with The Used. I like all of the bands that played. But id have to say you were right up there with the used. We loved you! =) p.s. aimee- quit smiling at my boyfriend :: wink wink::
christine <Silygirl18@aol.com>
Monroe, mi -

that is one of the ones that was ment to be with cave in right? it got cancelled my dear sorry :(
punchy
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Anyone planning on going to the show in SF at Slim's? It's not listed on the Slim's website, but it is on the updated tour list. I'll be there and I'm bringing friends and I hope I see some of you there!
Carrie
San Francisco, CA -

mmm hi, i saw the start on friday the 11th of April at the roxy. you all put on a great show and even though i got injured by stupid girls i still had a great time. thank youy all for being so nice and polite.
Alysha <fauxstar@attbi.com>
Atlanta , GA USA -

recommended reading.
stefanie
philly, usa -

Fucking Awesome show @ cinci. Thank you guys so much for coming here. Aimee thanks so much for fixing my order situation with the shirt and taking the time to talk :) I hope you feel better. I will be at every show you all play in this area. Fucking amazing :)
Steve <eiflers@nku.edu>
cincinnati, oh -

hey i just wanted to say that i was at the show last night and you guys were great i just wanted to say that i hope you get better aimee, i was looking forward to meeting you after the show, but you felt bad, so hopefully i'll get to meet you on the warped tour(b/c we all know you deserve to be on that tour and i'll seee you guys there. p.s. you guys need some pictures of sarah on the webpage b/c you know that sarah and aimee are THE HOTTEST girls in rock so.... see you at the warped tour. Stephen
stephen chapman <korn_a_holic@yahoo.com>
owensboro, ky united states -

hey guys anyone going to the bound brook NJ show 5-13? i am and im hyped for it! let me know if u'll be there too later! -Lindsay
lindsay <rubyshoh212@yahoo.com>
allentown, PA usa -

punchy! hit me up email style and i'll give you the link again
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

Hey everyone!I wanted to say i saw The Start at the Athens show and even though the used wasnt there the show still rocked!~Thanks amiee for signing my shirt i got and for letting me get a picture!I also saw u guys at the Atlanta show and thanks to everyone in the band for signing my white tie!Rainbow girl says hey!I cant wait to see you guys at warped tour in July!!KICK ASS!KEEP ON ROCKIN
Mandy(Amanda) <startinglinehun@aol.com>
Commerce, GA USA -

nataaalieee, do you still have a livejournal?
punchy
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I've been in such a good mood lately. i just found out the Start is coming back to Austin, a short 1 hour drive from San Antonio, and being the fan that I am, I have alredy requested that day and the following day off. Supposedly the Start will then make they're return to San Antonio, a show which, if does happen, I will attend again. If all this is true, I will have seen them 4 times in 3 months. And yet, that's still not enough.
marinette
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i found this rather entertaining. a good read if you're bored.
valentine
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uploaded some rare start mp3s... 4 hero demos, gorgeous acoustic, and time live... right click and "save target as" to save them to your computer so you can hear them.. you can get them here... http://mysecret.deaddesire.org/mp3/
jessixa <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

hey, just wanted to say that y'all rocked at the 40 watt in Athens..even though the used couldn't be there, y'all totally made up for it!..it was a great show
Jessica <OrangeStarDust83@hotmail.com>
GA United States -

The Start rocked so hard Tuesday night, and I was so glad to have been there. Echo you're my hero.
gaby
jax, Florida -

ello, its been so long since i posted on here, i havent been on the internet for ages, how are you all??

i was just thinking about the gig you guys did in manchester, and if you remember some guy took a picture of us all together (the start, me and malcolm) and i was wondering if anyone has a copy of it, cos i never got one. malc, if youve got a copy mail it me please (mwah), see yous later...love jen jen xxxxxxxxx
jen jen <freaky_one_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
manchester, uk -

A Message From Michael Moore (sorry it's long heh): Dear friends, It appears that the Bush administration will have succeeded in colonizing Iraq sometime in the next few days. This is a blunder of such magnitude -- and we will pay for it for years to come. It was not worth the life of one single American kid in uniform, let alone the thousands of Iraqis who have died, and my condolences and prayers go out to all of them. So, where are all those weapons of mass destruction that were the pretense for this war? Ha! There is so much to say about all this, but I will save it for later. What I am most concerned about right now is that all of you -- the majority of Americans who did not support this war in the first place -- not go silent or be intimidated by what will be touted as some great military victory. Now, more than ever, the voices of peace and truth must be heard. I have received a lot of mail from people who are feeling a profound sense of despair and believe that their voices have been drowned out by the drums and bombs of false patriotism. Some are afraid of retaliation at work or at school or in their neighborhoods because they have been vocal proponents of peace. They have been told over and over that it is not "appropriate" to protest once the country is at war, and that your only duty now is to "support the troops." Can I share with you what it's been like for me since I used my time on the Oscar stage two weeks ago to speak out against Bush and this war? I hope that, in reading what I'm about to tell you, you'll feel a bit more emboldened to make your voice heard in whatever way or forum that is open to you. When "Bowling for Columbine" was announced as the Oscar winner for Best Documentary at the Academy Awards, the audience rose to its feet. It was a great moment, one that I will always cherish. They were standing and cheering for a film that says we Americans are a uniquely violent people, using our massive stash of guns to kill each other and to use them against many countries around the world. They were applauding a film that shows George W. Bush using fictitious fears to frighten the public into giving him whatever he wants. And they were honoring a film that states the following: The first Gulf War was an attempt to reinstall the dictator of Kuwait; Saddam Hussein was armed with weapons from the United States; and the American government is responsible for the deaths of a half-million children in Iraq over the past decade through its sanctions and bombing. That was the movie they were cheering, that was the movie they voted for, and so I decided that is what I should acknowledge in my speech. And, thus, I said the following from the Oscar stage: "On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan (from Canada), I would like to thank the Academy for this award. I have invited the other Documentary nominees on stage with me. They are here in solidarity because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction because we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where fictitious election results give us a fictitious president. We are now fighting a war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fictitious 'Orange Alerts,' we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And, whenever you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up." Halfway through my remarks, some in the audience started to cheer. That immediately set off a group of people in the balcony who started to boo. Then those supporting my remarks started to shout down the booers. The L. A. Times reported that the director of the show started screaming at the orchestra "Music! Music!" in order to cut me off, so the band dutifully struck up a tune and my time was up. (For more on why I said what I said, you can read the op-ed I wrote for the L.A. Times, plus other reaction from around the country at my website) The next day -- and in the two weeks since -- the right-wing pundits and radio shock jocks have been calling for my head. So, has all this ruckus hurt me? Have they succeeded in "silencing" me? Well, take a look at my Oscar "backlash": -- On the day after I criticized Bush and the war at the Academy Awards, attendance at "Bowling for Columbine" in theaters around the country went up 110% (source: Daily Variety/BoxOfficeMojo.com). The following weekend, the box office gross was up a whopping 73% (Variety). It is now the longest-running consecutive commercial release in America, 26 weeks in a row and still thriving. The number of theaters showing the film since the Oscars has INCREASED, and it has now bested the previous box office record for a documentary by nearly 300%. -- Yesterday (April 6), "Stupid White Men" shot back to #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. This is my book's 50th week on the list, 8 of them at number one, and this marks its fourth return to the top position, something that virtually never happens. -- In the week after the Oscars, my website was getting 10-20 million hits A DAY (one day we even got more hits than the White House!). The mail has been overwhelmingly positive and supportive (and the hate mail has been hilarious!). -- In the two days following the Oscars, more people pre-ordered the video for "Bowling for Columbine" on Amazon.com than the video for the Oscar winner for Best Picture, "Chicago." -- In the past week, I have obtained funding for my next documentary, and I have been offered a slot back on television to do an updated version of "TV Nation"/ "The Awful Truth." I tell you all of this because I want to counteract a message that is told to us all the time -- that, if you take a chance to speak out politically, you will live to regret it. It will hurt you in some way, usually financially. You could lose your job. Others may not hire you. You will lose friends. And on and on and on. Take the Dixie Chicks. I'm sure you've all heard by now that, because their lead singer mentioned how she was ashamed that Bush was from her home state of Texas, their record sales have "plummeted" and country stations are boycotting their music. The truth is that their sales are NOT down. This week, after all the attacks, their album is still at #1 on the Billboard country charts and, according to Entertainment Weekly, on the pop charts during all the brouhaha, they ROSE from #6 to #4. In the New York Times, Frank Rich reports that he tried to find a ticket to ANY of the Dixie Chicks' upcoming concerts but he couldn't because they were all sold out. (To read Rich's column from yesterday's Times, "Bowling for Kennebunkport," go here. He does a pretty good job of laying it all out and talks about my next film and the impact it could potentially have.) Their song, "Travelin' Soldier" (a beautiful anti-war ballad) was the most requested song on the internet last week. They have not been hurt at all -- but that is not what the media would have you believe. Why is that? Because there is nothing more important now than to keep the voices of dissent -- and those who would dare to ask a question -- SILENT. And what better way than to try and take a few well-known entertainers down with a pack of lies so that the average Joe or Jane gets the message loud and clear: "Wow, if they would do that to the Dixie Chicks or Michael Moore, what would they do to little ol' me?" In other words, shut the f--- up. And that, my friends, is the real point of this film that I just got an Oscar for -- how those in charge use FEAR to manipulate the public into doing whatever they are told. Well, the good news -- if there can be any good news this week -- is that not only have neither I nor others been silenced, we have been joined by millions of Americans who think the same way we do. Don't let the false patriots intimidate you by setting the agenda or the terms of the debate. Don't be defeated by polls that show 70% of the public in favor of the war. Remember that these Americans being polled are the same Americans whose kids (or neighbor's kids) have been sent over to Iraq. They are scared for the troops and they are being cowed into supporting a war they did not want -- and they want even less to see their friends, family, and neighbors come home dead. Everyone supports the troops returning home alive and all of us need to reach out and let their families know that. Unfortunately, Bush and Co. are not through yet. This invasion and conquest will encourage them to do it again elsewhere. The real purpose of this war was to say to the rest of the world, "Don't Mess with Texas - If You Got What We Want, We're Coming to Get It!" This is not the time for the majority of us who believe in a peaceful America to be quiet. Make your voices heard. Despite what they have pulled off, it is still our country. Yours, Michael Moore
Jes(sic)a
CA -

hey! o man i went to the used and coheed and cambria show on april 5th...you put on a great show despite the hordes of used and coheed fans who booed. I was blown away even though i'm a coheed fan...i hope you come back soon so i can see you again! Ciao.
Spenser
West Palm Beach, FL Estados Unidos -

Hey every one check out this new cand called Urban Bridje @ www.urbanbridje.com I hope you check it out and enjoy what you hear.
Steven
Los Angeles, CA -

heyyy natalie... looks like there are new dates. how do you feel about coming up to new england with me and punchy? i could pick you up friday night-ish and drop you back sunday night? and i'm going to try to make it to the new york show and MAYBE the jersey show. but i don't know about transportation to those, cos i'm probably going to be routing back to philly afterwards... meh we'll see. drop me an email.

also my personal page has a new layout, so shut yo mouth puke.
stefanie <sms52@drexel.edu>
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The show was awsome (saw you w/ the Used at the House of Blues 4/6)!!! Hope you come back soon to do another show. I know I'll be there!!
Mallory <MoOsE923@webtv.net>
Saint Cloud, FL USA -

I recently saw your Jannus Landing show and in my opinion you outdid The Used. Your energy coupled with your musical intensity easily made it the greatest show I have ever seen. I don't know who the blonde on the bass was but she was great as well.
The Only One Who Matters <TheDeadlyNose@aol.com>
lakeland, fl usa -

heyyyyyyyyyyy i saw u guyz with the used at club ovation you guyz are sooo awesome im the kid that was with u guyz the hole time ...... when i said i was short and your like ok go sit up there with sarah and i got your autographs you guyz are amazing...!!!!!!! peace love and good luck
Ryan Hooper <Mixmaster0129@aol.com>
coral springs, fl usa -

When are you guys coming back to Austin???????
Amanda <ajalvarado@austin.rr.com>
austin, TX usa -

Joseph E. Cornejo Tele: 818-415-0108 jcmm77750@aol.com Website: www. jcmusicmang.com Bio: I have been in the music business for now 12 years, working mainly as a road technician, road manager, and band manager. I am starting a music management company for promoting, getting street teams, merchandise, booking, and so on, I will also be starting my own label very soon, we can go into details later on that. Everything will be documented, and contracted. The reason why I am starting this is to get more on the inside of the business and start something I know I started from the bottom and rose to the top. If you would like to sit down with me and discuss more in person or on the phone, on how I am going to work everything out feel free to contact me at jcmm77750@aol.com or u may call me anytime at 818-415-0108. There are percentages involved with the company. But I promise u hard work, and most of all loyalty. This will be just like a family orientated deal. I promise to all of you I will work as hard as I can for u, but u have to prove to me u will do the same, I know how it feels when u feel u are doing all u can and nothing comes back. Trust me, like the quote says, “ your expectations are high, mine are higher” so I hope to hear from u. Such bands I have worked with are: Triple-Seven “ Spun Out Records” Steve from Smash Mouth’s label. Salmon “ Red Ant Records” Willies Conception “ THC Records” The Brownies “THC Records” The bands that I have listed above. We help bring up such acts in the industry, or toured with, much love and respect: No Doubt, papa roach, videodrone “cradle of thorns originally”, deftones, korn, 311, insolence, trapt, dredge, fishbone, skeletones, snot “must pay respect to Lynn Strait” rest in peace my brother, incubus, hed pe, human waste project, dime store hoods “now 3rd strike”, tribal disco noise, bad brains, sublime “much respect and love to Bradley”, slightly stooped, and the list goes on… Certain individuals in the industry I would like to so appreciation that help me realize my goals and dreams here in the business are as follows: All of Salmon “l-train, tom walker, pat ruiz, arron Goodwin.” Gary Avila, Greg Morris, Kevin Higuchi, THC, Hi-Ryze, Craig Rubio, Joel and Kuir, Mattie Phillips, Jon Phillips, and so on….. Joseph E. Cornejo CEO. Website is under construction. It will be up soon. 1048 Wichester Ave. Glendale, Ca 91201
joe <jcmm77750@aol.com>
glendale, ca usa -

Guys/Girls (band) come back to meeee....Dallas, Texas. Oh well though I am finally getting transportation soon and I will have to FollowtheSTART. Whereever. Whenever. Sorry Mom and Dad. Love your fanatical darling, Meg
megziE
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ah im sick. but may is going to be awesomeee.
punchy
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hey go to thisisthestart.comand theres more recent stuff
poopa
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Stefanie, you are lucky as hell! Perhaps I shall enroll in Drexel..
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
WA -

AHH i just got back from travelling all over the goddamn country for a school trip... cleveland for the rock and roll hall of fame, nashville for ascap, sony and some country songwriter thing (awesome), new orleans for uhh bourbon st and atlanta because it was there. that fucking ruled. and now i see there will be east coast dates soon so i'm nice and road-weathered. fabulous. natalie, punchy, start saving up your gas money... it's on. i'm BAACKKKK <3
stefanie
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Hey great show lastnite in boyton beach.
Janelle <JaMxJaM27@aol.com>
Miami, FL USA -

sorry, it's me again, but just a suggestion, bt why don't ya get some pics of Sarah man!!! that would be GREAT. she's such a sweetheart!
Kiley <dumbkid6532@cs.com>
st. pete, fl usa -

hey, i loved you guys at jannus landing friday! theSTART rocks! and i'm sorry but i am a chick and Sarah is the hottest girl i have ever met!!! rock on babe! (badass!)
Kiley <dumbkid6532@cs.com>
St. Pete, FL USA -

Doesn't this world confuse you sometimes?? More often than not it seems as if nothing ever makes any sense. Don't get me wrong;I love theSTART but I was just wondering.
Lila Nielsen <fareystar@yahoo.com>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

dont really know what this is all about but im very inactive so i'll be an activist WOW i cant wait til the 19th to c the START AGIN!! at the same place... the troubadour how exciting
Kim McManus <dedbody66@aol.com>
Downey, CA USA -

hey guys when the start gonna come to the uk?
lee <leeantilles@hotmail.com>
london (ish), england -

Why, hello there young employee of the Sidewinder.
:)
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Hey!!! OMG the shw last night at Janus Landing was so good. I met my wife in another life last night(Sarah)Hey Sarah its me,That skinny kid Ryan that wrote my bands website on your arm (www.allelsefails.tk). I dont know if you remeber,but im now your biggest fan! Thanks alot for the great show,you guys/girls rock!!!
Ryan <Tampask8er@aol.com>
Tampa, Fl USA -

Hello everyone.(the start)I was wondering y in all off these pics that you guys have there is three guys one girl. when you at jannus landing with "the used" two girls and two guys. i think the bassists that night (im sorry i was to chicken to ask her name,if u email me back i would love o know) was the most beautiful artist i have ever seen on that stage!!! she looked a godess with all the lights and everything. i love u guys and hhope that u come back soon. love always josh
Josh <xtc420024@aol.com>
Tampa, FL US -

I'm so sad right now! George W. just killed my Native sister.....why did he do this? I thought he gave a shit about Natives, I'm so mad right now. It's not cool, she had 2 kids! Why did he take her away from them????? Rest in Peace Lori Piestewa! You're in our hearts!
kc
Indian Country, AZ USA -

Hey Feeline! Glad you made it nice and safe - have an awwwwesomely fantastic couple of months - what's the betting you don't come back!!! xx
Raepepper
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mine too, takes the buzzing out
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If only life were that easy. Taking out the batteries of my lover would cost my lovers life.
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i cheated on my lover the other day. didn't have much to say about it cause i took his batteries out.
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Cheating on your lover would be a pretty bad thing to do. That is, if you have a lover to cheat on.
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fiona is from england i believe and she is an awesome thestart fan who helped with merch on the warped tour last year i think as well as many other shows.
valentine
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may is gonna rock the hizzzous. i just might have to ditch school.
punchy
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whos fiona?
richard
whittier, ca -

it's a day late but happy pagan new year!
al gore, you wanna jam? i'd email you but you didn't leave an addy. can timmy come too? he rocks. by the way tim, sorry for leaving without notice. it was a last minute sorta thing. i'll see you in a couple weeks. mia, i wasn't at the jerry's pizza or fullerton shows but i'm definitely in the fold. fiona just joined us again too so now the van is bursting with fun. and personal belongings. for the first time there's an equal number of sexes! eno tips the scales a bit with his tremendous wang. there's so much new merch it's not even funny. everybody has to buy lotsa stuff. as much as you can carry. fata is booking tons of dates for may, mostly east coast. promote the hell out of upcoming shows so new people can show up, fall in love with the band and help pay to keep them alive and touring! there's a problem with the website though so there might not be any new dates posted. there was a computer crash. the mailing list is gone i think so you should probaby sign up again.

in regards to the "i pay for whatever, your mom talks shit about me, so and so gives me a total boner, i heard this about a band member, etc." i'll say this... when people who are just finding out about the band come to the site it would be good for there to be positive things about the music. if you wanna tell everybody what you were wearing when you met the band or how kick ass the last show was, that's great! but if you crave some kind of drama in your life leave the band out of it. hold your neighbor's cat for ransom or cheat on your lover or something. but if you spread negative rumors about the band or cause unneeded static you're a fucking asshole and don't deserve to hear their kick ass music ever again.
~st. pukeis~
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blast. they should play west hartford instead! :) anywayyyys i finished listening to thenew white stripes. right now my favorites are seven nation army, black math, in the cold cold night, hardest button to button, and its true we love each other. now that ive listened to the whole thing without a headache i dont know which cd i love more!
punchy
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i cant go to the cave In show because im going to see thefaint, but im still gonna promote the show. im gonna be passing out fliers at the Lunarclick show on thursday and at the electroclash festival on saturday. lets all support the START and make fliers. -richard
richard <orgyfiend16@aol.com>
whittier, ca -

for all the california kiddies. the start will be playing the troubadour 4/19 with cave in . there was some confusion on this but i recieved an email from aimee stating that they will be playing. bring a friend or two and buy your tickets because its gonna sell out.
SiX
Ca -

Damn some people are lame ,anywho the start rock kisses to all .Appreciate the music and the message not the money.Poor kids need music too.
THEend
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what'sup yall i just wanted to get it started get the party bumpin let me get the kids with no fingers to raise there stubs in the air .what what let me get the busty asians to raise there . WAIT a minute theres no such thing that was a trick . yo read yo books learning is proper hammer time
mine <musthavebust@hotmail.com>
boston, duh usa -

what'sup yall i just wanted to get it started get teh party bumpin let me get teh kids with no fingers to raise there stubs in the air .wha thwat let m eget eh busty asians to raise there . WAIT a minute theres no such thing that was a trick .
mine <musthavebust@hotmail.com>
boston, duh usa -

I got the new cd too. I love it. I like how they tried out new things that they haven't done before on previous records. Meg has such a sexy 1930's smoke lounge woman's voice. And the last song is so cute. I think my favorite so far is number 12. Long live the White Stripes. ps: Longer live theSTART :) <3
megziE
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i thought this was really weird, so i figure "why not share?"
so last night i had a really bizarre dream and theSTART had a cameo. their little part boils down to this: jamie, jeff and aimee joined the national guard or something (cos they were in uniforms) and there were kids that referred to aimee as Lt. (or Sgt i dont remember) Miller so i guess they got married.
that will be all :o)
natalie
ny -

Brian Molko...good god...the new Placebo....I am IN LOVE. IN LOVE I tell you. So....sssooooooooooo good. I made a post raving about it on the message board. So...unbelievably good. *nod* yes. Sorry. Still too in awe to put actual sentences together. Heh.
A#2 <gorgeousxtrinity@aol.com>
O of OC, yo., -

i love brian molko and jack white <3 two good bands, two new cds, two hot talented guys with great voices. uhm, ohhh "girl, you have no faith in medicine" is hilarious. you have to listen to it, its track 13. and indeed meg is adorable.
valentine
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mia, i care. i got the new cd today tooo. i dont think i love it as much of blood cells but im sure it will grow on me. meg is so cute on the song she sings. i think my fav so far is 'the hardest button to button'. i still have the last couple songs to listen too. everyone should buy it!
punchy
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WAR KILLS! ROCK LIVES!
Natalie <eilatan12@hotmail.com>
Culver City, CA USA -

Hey i saw you guys at Fullerton you were awesome once again even though it was so freakin hot. Anyways i hope to see you again at the troubadour. Hi Sarah.
kat <chicknsox@aol.com>
whitter, ca -

troy is hot.
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hey, check out my site about troy van leeuwen, isn't he cute? i just started to listen to theStart but i think they are really good.
trudy <dreadlockfreak@hotmail.com>
Wintersijk/Meddo, the netherlands -

i just got the new whitestripes cd. love, love, looooove it to death. not that anyone cares.
valentine
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..A little late, but theSTART was so great @ South Gate.. small crowd @ Allen but all there for theSTART!! Especially me!!! Sarah and Aimee are a sweet-hearts! ...dont exclamation marks make everything more exciting?!
Casper!
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NO! What would Jamie do?
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i want a wwsd bracelt!!!!!!!!!!!!
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was funny with WWED, then someone took it too far, now its ghey
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no! what would sarah do!!
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oops, I said you could also make it What Would Echo Do?
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You could also make it
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USA -

Oh god. "WWED"...that just totally made my entire day. Hugs and props to you, the genius who came up with that.
A#2 <gorgeousxtrinity@aol.com>
the O of OC, yo., -

dude, i'm craving a "WWED" bracelet!!!!
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praise eno!! i must go worship!
follower #2
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all hail eno.
follower #1
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ENO IS GOD!!!!!
another follower
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this is the church of theSTART. hallelujah!!!!!
follower
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This is interesting. I feel like we are at church and our neighbors are passing the bucket around curious as to how much we are go to put in. And if we put in more than someone else are we the better christian? Well, I don't think GOD really cares about that shit, and I don't think theStart does either. I love theStart, going to their shows has become part of who I am, and I get the impression that many fans feel the same way. It doesn't matter if your in Cali or New York or Arizona or where-ever, we are all connected to each other because we are connected to the band. So no more of this "Will the real merch girl please stand up, please stand up" Al Gore, I didn't vote for you because I was lazy, but you one Cali anyway so it's good right? To close, I'm not trying to pass negative energy on to others, Because I believe very much in Karma. So if you are reading this and you find it upsetting or offensive in anyway, I assure you I meant no harm. If you would like to respond to this anyways, Please Email me or IM me instead of posting. Much Luv Timothy
Timothy <Timpossible@aol.com>
Buena Park, CA U.S.A. -

Yeah, everyone just needs to chill out. You are all being very "un-dude". I've only been lucky enough to meet the band twice, but from what I can tell, they wouldn't like ll this bickering over who deserves what. Hell, I got on the guest list for one of there shows (well, my friend did for both of us), but it wasn't becasue I did anything special. I think it was just because they are that nice, and they appreciate their fans that much. So, to show my appreciation for that, I donated what I could to the skull. So, yeah. That's all.
marionette
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true. i was there and i know how much they put in, and it puts my donation to shame :( but anyways i agree with seymour. we're all fans. Not one fan deserves anything more than another no matter what they do (unless we save eno's life or something!!) so lets shut up and talk about something else. :)
punchy
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Mia has gone to shows and been on guestlist before. I know this as a fact. But I also know that I have seen her put money into the donation cup, and buy a shirt or two from the band from time to time, as well as cd's. Not only did she fly out to the east coast and support theSTART out there, she and her friend she went with put in endless amounts of cash flow into the donation skull. Yes, they may have attended those shows at no cost due to them being on gueslist, but they paid the full ticket amount, and then some, to the band by putting it back into the donation skull. Do your part as a fan and not think that just because you help someone, you get something in return. Do it out of love and caring for someone, and don't come around saying "I deserve it, it was well deserved". That is not the reason to do things for a band. I know stefanie and Mia never once went around saying "we deserve it so fuck off and don't give me shit." They helped out with merch out there as much as they could. They ran errands for the band as well, but they did not expect anything out of it. And in the end, they were nothing but eager and willing to pay full price for their ticket. Don't just do things so you can say "I deserve it."
Seymour
So Cal, Ca -

rock on.
punchy
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support rock and roll! theStart need everyone's support. everytime you go, bring a new friend to experience theStart. i've done that and created a lot of new fans. michelle and tim have been doing merch for a long time. one of my friends that i brought to a show recently has a crush on michelle. he'll probably kill me that i said anything :) support theStart! support music! music is the future, and without it the world would be silent! btw - gore i voted for you, not dubbya
maise <maise@blackenedangel.com>
CA USA -

p.s. one more thing mr. al gore, i have heard the same thing about tim and michelle i don't know what to believe. it is rather sad when other fans can spread rumours and start such things.
valentine
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<3 al gore. i agree with everything youve said, and still do. war sucks. you rock <3
valentine
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Just to clairfy - Michelle and Tim do do the merch most of the time. However, for the shows that they haven't been able to make it to or are out of the area for them (SD and Bakersfield and such) Six & I have been helping out recently. But yeah, I totally agree with below - all that matters is if you dig the music or not and in the end, the most important thing is that you support - doesn't matter how, just the fact that you do. Everyone shows their appreciation and support in different ways so *shrug* It all just ends up a never ending circle of nonsence to fight about something like that. Just rock out, let others be, and do what *you* can for the band. *nod* Rock on. -
A#2 <gorgeousxtrinity@aol.com>
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I'm confused, I thought Tim and Michelle sold merch at all the Cali shows. I know I got all my merch from Michelle. Also, I don't think you can buy merch from any of the Venues, you have to buy directly from the band. And let us not lose track at what this all about "the Music" Not who is and isn't on the list. We all want to support the band how ever we can. It doesn't matter how many show you have been to, how far you traveled to see them, or how many times you have listened to the record. Because when you show up at a show, All that matters is how much you dig the music and the people who make it. NOW, I heard a Rumor that the merch girl Michelle thinks the Merch guy Tim is Hot. This is the most ridiculus thing I have ever heard, so I called Michelle and asked her if she knew she liked Tim. She had no clue, In fact she told me she would rather date one of the ugly goblins from LOTR. Anyways. Much love to all. If I can I would like to take this post and put it in what I like to call a locked box. PUKE E-mail Me about Jammin.
Al Gore
Johnson City, TN U.S.A. -

no way, we totally rocked it out to spice girls on the way up to worcester. IIII'M... GIVING YOU EEEEVERYTHING, ALL THAT JOOYYY CAN BRING, THIS I SWEEEEARRRR!
stefanie
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hey... stef... was that a dis at my cd collection i brought along when we went on a road trip? =P
valentine
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stef gas money is no problemo. and i have a billion cds not to mention i work at a record store so if you want something i'll try and find it. but definatly count me in!
natalie
ny -

im getting a job at a discount grocery store so i can tag along <3 i doubt i can go southwards with you, but ill do the ct ones deffinantly, ny, nj, and ma (if the timing is right). woot. im excitied.
punchy
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natalie, i'm waiting til there are confirmed dates to get my plans going (cos i'm thinking of heading a ways south to maybe the dc/baltimore area this time around as well as north), but if you've got some gas money and a few good cds i'll count you in :)
stefanie
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stef, yr welcome :o)
that completely made my day too. if you don't mind me tagging along with you guys this year i'd be more than happy to donate gas money to the worthy cause
natalie
ny -

Devoted...... hmmm, if everyone got into concerts at no cost for being devoted, I don't think Phish or the Grateful Dead would've been able to tour nearly as much as they did.
ShadowSunflare
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ok, six, i never mentioned your name or said anything to you. and second, good for you on going to every fucking show in california. great. im glad you can support the band like that. as long as its supporting and not taking food out of their mouths or gas money out of their pockets its all good. <3
valentine
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i have gone to every fucking show in california. dont give me shit because the band put me on their list. i know you gave omar a hard time about this. which you really shouldnt have. you had no right to say what you said to him. and trying to make him feel bad. first of all they didnt have to put me and the others on the list. and i am grateful they did put me on the list. but also it was well deserved anyways. i have been working their merch booth at many of their shows so they can be with their fans and not have to worry about the merch. so they can just relax. so aimee can have a fucking break because she is basically managing the band by herself, she has alot on her plate. and i buy stuff from them. so even if i do get put on the fucking list i am supporting them. 1) they did it for me. i didn't ask them. 2) i support them in many other ways... buying their merch directly from them. so its supporting them rather than the venue and the other bands. 3) it is DESERVED. i am a devoted fan. i drove all over fucking california to see them when i really couldn't even afford to. that's all i have to say.
SiX
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i never said i was going to stop supporting the band. i enjoy watching them live, as well as listening to their music via cd. which is why when i saw them the last few times i paid the ticket price to get into the show. support your local rock band is my motto. if it werent i wouldnt be getting stickers and buttons made to send out to a slew of people on a street team that is run by money that i make by working. i mean, when mike left it didnt seem like that big of a thing for me, but when scott left i was like wow, someone left..... and it didnt hit me as hard. but jeff... its like, woah, dude, what just happened. only two original members now. brian is fantastic <3 and sarah is nice, but it just feels weird. i dont know. i know you probably didnt mean it the way it seems like i took it, but im just saying, change in the band means members will be missed as well as people who toured and worked with the band. but they still play the same great music we all enjoy live, and on cd, so they will still be supported. i havent really heard/read anyone say "i miss jeff" or anything, i hear alot of negative things from people, im just showing that i care about an ex member even though he decided to leave and live a life that means he isnt in the band anymore. <3 life goes on, we all support good music. i am in no way dissing brian or sarah. theyre talented muscians and im glad theyre in thestart now.
valentine
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Six isn't "scary". She just loves theSTART, don't we all? Please remember to BE KIND people. Also, yes things change, band members change, the only thing to do is to keep supporting the band as they grow. *Gets off Soapbox*
Jes(sic)a
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rather like mine. her bag looks like mine. corrections because im drugged up on wal-phed.
valentine
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indeed i do stefanie <3 i swear i think im dying though.=( kenicke... that girls bag looks my mine haha my patches are the distillers, thestart, nin and avril sucks on mine though. and stefanie, i misssss you too.=P
valentine
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bit of thestart love in my comic book - click the link to see a page.
kenickie
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mia, you get drunk on the weirdest things :P
stefanie
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yay! thestart on the east coast again. <3

speaking of thestart touring and what not. has anyone noticed its not the same anymore without jeff and puke and dan. especially dan. its so weird hearing someone ask for cigarettes and no one to turn them down. <3 sarah is nice, but i miss seeing jeff on his acoustic sitting in the van with his flip flops on playing with the trusty eno next to him. and there was no puke to tell "dude, you so owe someone a postcard" to. actually, there was no emily with a mr.saucy as well. sorry, i went on some rambling rampage, its the "wal-phed" walgreens vs of sudaphed crap plus ibuprofen mixed with some really strong herbal tea talking here. meh.
valentine
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I just saw theSTART for the very first time tonight at Ladyfest in Seattle and they totally blew me away. I knew they were great, but I had no idea what I was in for. AMAZING!!!! I want to check out Saving Face asap because Sarah Saturday is soooooo gorgeous. I couldn't take my eyes off of her. She signed my shirt and took a pic with me :) YAY. theSTART rocks my world!!
xjennersonx <xjennersonx@hotmail.com>
Kirkland, WA USA -

why am i scary?
SiX
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i do believe an east coast voyage is in order soon then... time to start saving gas-and-donation money :) thanks natalie; that made my day.
stefanie
wo, nj -

she scares me as well.
patience
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and you six, my dear, dear child, do scare me.
ann
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andy is awesome. i love him!! hes so nice... he's hot too. go sarah woot woot. im gonna be workign on a site for them too. the domain is already bought ill let you all know when i get it up. it shall be iloveherdude.com
SiX
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stef, punchy + any one else in the ny-ish area:
"we will be in NY at the Tribeca in mid MAY....."
a little birdie whispered that to me. woo!
natalie
ny -

One more thing, Sarah Saturday is HOT!!! Andy is sooooo fuckin lucky!!!!!!!! Best wishes to you Saturday!!! ROCK ON!!!!
karen
AZ -

Hey people! I went to a show tonight, to the same place I first saw theSTART. It just wasn't the same, I mean I'll always associate that place w/ theSTART. I love theSTART! I want to thank you for makin your music and makin me happy! You ROCK!!
karen <karenlynnchase@hotmail.com>
Indian Country, AZ u.s.a. -

weirdest thing ever, i was leaving after kelly osbourne's set at irving plaza in nyc a few hours ago (oh can it; it was cheesy fun) and i put my start hoodie on... and some dude comes up to me and is like 'do you like that band?' 'uh yeah...' 'my girlfriend plays bass for them!' andy i presume? nice guy. good times. aaand that's all i got.
stefanie
nj -

i like your pictures Ms.Valentine AE is gorgeous as always
2RH
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Did you know in Texas they are actual debates against making sodomy legal on the grounds that it will lead to the legalization of same sex marriages. How stupid and ignorant is that. Who cares if gays want to get married. You know, if it were illegal for black people to get married, there would be a huge uproar. Millions would be taking to the streets in protest to make it legal. It's a stupid law that needs to be repealed everywhere. Also, in the paper yesterday, somebody decided to devote an entire article to the fact that the Lt. Governor stood up the governor and other lawmakers for lunch. How stupid is that. Supposedly there's been a disagreement between to two sides on how best to increase revenue. Lawmakers want to increase taxes so that certain necessary programs won't get cut (after-school programs for at-risk children, medical benefits, etc.), while the governor wants to cut taxes (like his predecessor, our great President). I find it ridiculous that there is even a story about this. Also I found out today that there is a bil in the house that would allow students that aren't here legally, but were brought over at a very young age to qualify for legal residency and therefore be eligible for finacial aid for college if they've lived here for 5 years, graduated from high school, and met other qualifications. This is a very worthy cause. I once dated a girl who was from mexico (although it was legal), and A very close friend of mine for 9 years now would fall into this category. He is not a bad person, and thorugh no fault of his own, he is suffering these consequences. All he wants to do is get a good education so he can build a better life for himself and his mother, and his future kids, and he is being denied this while citizens fail to take advantage of our great situation. I highly urge everyone to support this cause. Also, the last hign I will EVER say about anything related to the Iraqi conflict is this. The reason I say the time to stop protesting is now is because MOST protesters don't get it. Take what happened in San Fransico for instance. The had this huge protest, and they had to know the media was there, and what do they do, they damn near riot. They start flipping over cars and breaking windows. And then they say that to stop protests is to infringe on their rights. What about the rights of the people who own those stores and cars. This just adds to the argument of people like Bill O'Rielly, and other morons who call protesters "anti-american." It's not unpatriotic to protest (hell, i support the right), but to do it like this does nothing but bring shame to the cause. You know, at the beginnig, we had an anti-war rally here, and the next day in the paper I saw a picture of a guy who claimed he wanted to protect our soilders. He wrote this on an American flag, and held it upside down. This was a slap in the face to all those he claimed to want to help. Also, some groups are encouraging riots, stating that it will force the government to use soilders to control the riots, thereby depleting the resources for the conflict, and refocusing attention on america, and not on Iraq. I'm all for redirecting the attention of the media and the U.S. citizens back on America, but that's a bullshit way to go about. If you're going to speak out, come with facts, and eloquent arguments. Son't just go out, shout your head off, spewing un-informed allgations and making an idiot of yourself. You hurt you cause more than help it. And now I am done.
marionette
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Ska music and Marijuana? you don't say... i would have never of guessed it!!! (hehe)
megziE
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Happy Birthday to me and Aimee. My sweet sixteen was amazing. We danced and danced and danced and....
megziE
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Hey, I think that war is ignorant and stupid!!!
Mary Charmaine <daviddraimanbaby3@hotmail>
Costa Mesa, CA United States -

hi friend i want to say about something ska music it's the best music that i have heard in my life with ny friend smoke marihuana and listen this music all the weekends because in week i study and some of them work viva la paz in this world.no war in the planet just the real justice !
robert <jabondekk@yahoo.com.ar>
la serena, chile chile -

also happy birthday to miss aimee echo also... we sang to her at the fullerton show yesterday.
SiX
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pictures from san diego, bakersfield, and fullerton are completely up for your viewing pleasure. enjoy... http://mysecret.deaddesire.org
jessixa
ca -

a little late but here none the less. pictures from the jerrys pizza show on 3/22/03<3 enjoy
valentine
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long time, no speakout for me! anyone from the peoria area going to the April 2 show in St Louis? I need a ride! help! will pay for gas money! :)
kelle <kelry99@aol.com>
peoria, il -

I'm an idiot...i thought i was signing up for this....not posting a comment....sorry folks
Brian....again.... <pdzero312@aol.com>
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Brian Lucett <pdzero312@aol.com>
Glendora, CA USA -

Right now the the UN is in session, debating the US action against Iraq. Are you seeing THIS on your TV? Many nations are trying to stop this war. It is still not to late to support our troops by bringing them home! Learn the true facts Team Bush doesn't want you to know!
Read: War On Iraq by William Rivers Pitt with Scott Ritter. It is only 75 pages..under $10...takes 20 minutes. Learn the TRUTH! Go to:War-On-Iraq.com...think peace
~human <human@thestart.org>
earth, -

Because of the war in Iraq, MTV Europe will not air videos and programs deemed "offensive to public feeling." A network memo written by Broadcast Standards Manager Mark Sunderland, recommended the temporary banning of videos that depict, "war, soldiers, war planes, bombs, missiles, riots and social unrest, executions [and] other obviously sensitive material." Among the videos on the banned list are OUTKAST's "B.O.B," which stands for "Bombs over Baghdad," SYSTEM OF A DOWN's "Boom!," which contains war-protest footage, and anything by the B-52's, because the band's name is also a type of bomber plane.
makes sense to me
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hahaha, well go ahead and refuse, it's your right. are your blinders on tight enough? so you went from being against an immediate iraq war to supporting the troops once the war started and now you're a defeatist and don't even want to acknowledge what we're doing over there.
has anybody seen 12 angry men? i read the play but there's a b&w movie with henry or peter fonda about twelve sequestered jurors debating a murder case. the trial was for a minority boy from the projects who was accused of killing his father. the jurors go back and forth over all the evidence and change their verdicts from guilty to innocent and back again several times. even though they're all in the same room debating the same trial that they all saw and heard, everybody has a different idea of what the real facts are and how to find them. individual prejudices hindered a quick resolution. some would say "look at where the boy grew up, he's a victim" and the others would say "look at where the boy grew up, of course he's guilty" kinda like how some say "iraq has 40,000,000 citizens, how can you not accidentally bomb innocent people?" and the others say "iraq has 40,000,000 citizens and i hope it's down to just 40 when we're through with them."
~pukesian gulf~
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Good point Puke. I’m surprised you mentioned Tom Robbins. I’m from Texas and I can see how you are pissed off by all those thing mentioned but if we give up on one thing, like fighting against the war, we’re bound to end up giving into everything else that seems hopeless. The reason why Bush is continuing to excel is because slowly the few people around him who have power to change things fell outnumbered and hopeless. Did anyone happen to watch the O’ Reilly Factor and how he was calling anti-war protestors “anti-Americans”? Funny how he sees is as “anti-war” and not “pro-peace”. These politicians are so pessimistic.
megziE
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Anyone from Texas, please back me up on this one. YOu all don't understand, Bush has already won. He doesn't care, he won't listen, and just the fact that all the networks show has proven that he's gotten what he wants, full attention on Saddam, and none on his own people. But yet, I'm still paying too mush for gas, my younger brother is still going to a school that is severly under-funded (thanks to Bush's brilliant education plan), too many people are out of work, our economy still sucks, cars a wasting too much gas, a very promising research has had its hands severly tied, there is legislation out there that many believe to be a precursor to abolitiong abortion, and coporations run the wite house, and yet all anybody wants to talk about is the war. Well I refuse. He's already won with all this war talk, and you all need to see that.
marionette
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Interesting point to consider. Look at the outrage over the iraqi's "Defying the geneva convention" by putting 5 POW's on tv. Then look at the US treatment of "Prisoners" in camp x-ray.

I heard a US ambassador on tv tonight trying to defend guantanamo bay. He said he saw no comparison between the two events. Does ANYONE actually buy this bullshit? ANYONE?
Metal Malcolm
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before you "turn off your tv" take a look at the pictures from iraq. instead of seeing billowing black smoke rising up from burning buildings somewhere out in the desert imagine you were watching the same kind of destruction in st. louis or cleveland or miami. we can't hardly fathom something like that. 9/11 made us piss our pants it was so ugly, but how the fuck do you think the iraqis feel about what we're doing over there? gee, i wonder why there's prisoners of war already. is saddam on tv encouraging people to go to work and go shopping like bush did right after 9/11? nope, instead he's on iraqi tv (i saw this live last nite around 1 am) saying that they've tried to comply with what america and england wanted and then we turned it all around and made our evil intentions known. he's asking american troops if they've yet found all those weapons iraq supposedly has. he was telling his people that this time around it's much more serious because we're looking to occupy iraq instead of just to slap their wrist like in 1991. all that bullshit that the media has been saying about how saddam might be dead and their empire is crumbling and then he's on tv this morning talking about shit that happened during the day yesterday, obviously not recorded a month ago, and unifying his nation. he's using words like "jihad" that he's only started using in the last 12 years. how can anybody defend this fucking war? how can anybody say that they hope for the best and they want the troops home soon? do you fucking remember what bush said right after 9/11?! he said we're going after the people who were behind it and then we're going around to every country that harbors terrorists and kicking their ass. so, you see, if you oppose this war you're behind the troops because if they don't die in this war they'll die in yemen or iran or afghanistan or korea. this is by no means over and if we start supporting it now we gotta be behind it for years to come. or we could be geniuses and decide to wait until the next election and THEN speak up. do you think that if the bush administration gets voted out that the new department for homeland security and all this other shit that just came to be is going to vanish? "All I'm trying to say is that it's disrepectful to the troops to say that this war is unjust. Then what are they risking their lives for?" that's exactly what i wanna know. why risk your life for something that might not even work? we wanna implement our democracy over there but we don't know if they want it or if they can even live by it. has anybody read the koran? it's their laws. imagine that, instead of the us constitution, we used the holy bible as the law of our land. if a more powerful nation took over your country and told you to follow a bunch of rules they made up instead of following your religion how would you react? or howabout trying to implement our judicial system over there. "no, you can't cut out his tongue, you gotta hire a lawyer and take him to court." it's apples and oranges. let's get real. so what is this all about, why the fuck are we even over there? why are we saying to all those against the war "well isn't it nice to live in a country where you can speak out?" when our bill of rights is being trampled on by ass-croft? if anybody needs to smoke a joint and relax it's that guy. so there seems to be two sides now. bush's plan worked, now that we're actually doing it more people will be supportive. you're either for it or not, no "i'm against it but i hope it works," that's the most retarded thing i've ever heard. so who makes more sense, george bush and donald rumsfeld or tim robbins and michael moore?
~puke qasr~
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cute one stef hehe. its a nickname aimee gave me. cuz i spell jessixa with an x instead of a c. i liked it. i needed a new nick name. mine used to be jessers. and i've had it for way too long and it wasnt that cool hahah. its so awesome my friend nate got me this pin that he had when he turned six years old. it says. "I'm 6" im gonna wear it all the time now... aimee loved the pin too. i got it at the show in bakersfield
SiX
ca -

stef, if yr serious i'm so there :o)
natalie
ny -

Dragged myself away from my essay (undone and due tom - yeah!) to have a rant - Bush and Blair keep talking of the 5000 Iraqi children who die each week due to malnutrition - but before the sanctions, international medical journals takled of overeating and overweight Iraqi children being the problem. It was only after the sanctions that worry about malnutrition started!!!! Saddam Hussein is bad enough as it is, and he does things which are as crazy as Bush, but if they lie about his regime, it weakens the whole argument against him!!! But we must remember that anybody he kills is bad. Anybody we kill is of course good. Obviously. And yes I say we, cos this is all being done in our name!!! Now onto my bloody essay! Genocide anyone?
Raepepper <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
UK -

okay well! according to cave-in's site theSTART are playing with cave-in for only one show, and that's in la on the day they were meant to be in hartford! so! that's some roadtrip; maybe we'll just skip that one. bah. who's up for a five-hour drive to rochester?
stefanie again
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are you the same six from blossom? and if so, how IS joey lawrence these days? <3
stefanie
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hey guys. just wanted to let you know i took lots of awesome pics of the last two start shows. san diego and bakersfield. you can see the bakersfield ones on the site. i havnt put the san diego ones up there yet but you can view them at http://mysecret.deaddesire.org/photos/thescene :) hope ya like em
Six
pasadena, ca -

Human, America must be borrowing the slogans of the book 1984: War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.
Jes(sic)a <IVIanicXsubsidal@aol.com>
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natalie i'm still trying to find out about hartford; i can't seem to get ahold of the venue...

as for the war... i just had a conversation with my mother about the prisoners of war. i don't think anybody should have to suffer like i'm sure the pows are, but when you sign up for the military you do run the risk of being killed or captured and i'm sure none of the soldiers from either side are oblivious to that fact. odds are good it won't happen to too many americans, but it will happen to some. as for protesting being futile... so our protests of the war didn't stop it from happening. that doesn't mean we sit back and watch our country terrorize (and i don't use that term loosely) the iraqi people. it doesn't mean we pretend america is 100% behind our president, because we're not. a few weeks ago a cnn poll showed that 60% of americans did not support this war. now they say 75% of the country does. unless 35% of the country were sitting on the fence until they were "shocked and awed" into changing their opinion, this is just bullshit. protesters aren't expecting the war to stop just because a few million people took to the streets with picket signs, but it's important to make it known that there are alternate opinions to that of the bush administration. america's reputation for greed and imperialism is being furthered by this war, and there's no reason for any of us to support it. the iraqi people have suffered under saddam hussein, but it's nothing compared to what we're going to do to them.
stefanie
nj -

human, i just read about the missles not being scuds. oops. well ill be more careful about what i hear on tv.
punchy
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come back! we miss you guys =(
ricki <screamsayonara@hotmail.com>
houstonville, tx -

ok im gonna take this moment to be selfish and whine about something that isn't the war. ok so theSTART are joining ak3 from june 6th to the 26 or something? buuuut ak3 is playing the nyc/metro area the month before. WHEN are you guys getting HERE?
natalie
ny, NY -

ok, so you believe war is peace now,
and conquerors are liberators.
what next, slavery is freedom?
hot is cold?
day is night?
"turn off your TV"(esp FOX, MSNBC, CNN)
Don't let them think for you!
(free your mind of what they say-) Think for yourselves! (your mind is powerful-think PEACE) (ps: BTW punchy there were no scuds)~human
~human
LA, CA -

i dont understand how you guys can say that all humans are equal, yet you want to leave the iraqi people with a "ruler" who enjoys making his people suffer! i could find you some examples of some of these lovely things the iraqi people have to deal with if they think for themselves. if they enjoy their human rights. i donnt know what you think we could do otherwise? talk to saddam? yes because everyone knows he's a real rational man. on the other board some people wanted to start a campaign to "feed thine enemy". oh yah that would really work because everyone knows if we give food or money to a country like iraq because the people in the country whoo neeed it get it! YAH RIGHT. Their greedy fat government gets it. I personnally think those Iraqi people deserve their freedom. What about you?
punchy
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I seem to love myself just fine. Like I said, there's a time for debate, and there's a time for action. Unfortunately, we didn't win the debate, and therefore the action is not one we favor. No matter. This situation isn't over. Bush has to run for re-election, and we can speak then. Also, everybody has to be prepared to die. we could all go at any second. Henry Rollins has some amazing statistics on how much we Americans kill ourselves. So we are more likely to die over here than in another country. Hell, we're probably more likely to die here then our soldiers are over there. All I'm trying to say is that it's disrepectful to the troops to say that this war is unjust. Then what are they risking their lives for? It's like saying "no" when your girlfriend says "Does this make me look fat?" Of course it does, but we never say it because it's disrespectful, and we're (guys) are not that stupid. We all know it's unjust, and they probably know it too, but they're already there, and they've been ordered to fight, so they do. Like I said, the time for debate is OVER. I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but leave the troops alone. In case you're wondering, I'm not a military person, but I have great respect for someone who would put their life on the line to protect millions of his fellow countrymen that he willnever see.
marionette
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it's hard to stay positive or even see any bright side when you've got all these bullshit ideas floating around. so now that the war has begun let's support it, great idea. of course it doesn't hurt to wish your fellow man well and hope he doesn't "come home in a box" as country joe might say. but if you've joined the armed forces you gotta be prepared to die and if you decide to have a family you need to realize that you might leave a widow or a few orphans if you're killed in combat. there's been all this "don't let the terrorists win" talk, it's dangerous to criticize our leaders or system or military during times of conflict, but we're letting bush win. we make a big antiwar stink but as soon as he starts throwing the shit in the direction of the fan we think it's good to shut up and hope for the best. no wonder we have this guy as our president to begin with. well whatever, if we're gonna have that kinda attitude maybe some outside country needs to come over here and "liberate" us so we'll have a more effective system. we seem to be bored with what we have, our voices are only good enough to a certain point and then we don't use them. maybe we shouldn't have them at all. we'll just let other people tell us who to hate and where to work and just go along with it. teach it to our children and pass it down.
~pukelestinian~
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Americans or Iraqis we are all humans. Apart of the same imperfect race whether we like it or not. You can't just care about one group of humans and not the rest. That's a counter productive theory that fuels hate, greed, envy etc. and those emotions spark war. To single yourself out and pull away from what you are is like denying yourself. A form of self-loathing---if you will. And if you don't even love yourself, your human self, then who can you love? ...Just a thought.
megziE
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IGNORE ME I JUST REALISED THEY SPLIT UP. AHAHAHA I'M AN ARSE. (only just found out bout em u see)
7words <bqad_atf_@hotmail.com>
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RAR YOU GUYS RULE. COME TO ENGLAND. NEONE KNOW NE DATES ABOUT HUMAN WASTE PROJECT IN THE UK EMAIL ME (GO ON) bqad_atf_@hotmail.com p.s DEFTONES IN ENGLAND WHOO HOOO \M/
7words <bqad_atf_@hotmail.com>
FARNHAM, SURREY ENGLAND -

i never said anything about an Iraqi life being worthless. You're just putting words in my mouth. What I said is that I care about Americans because i'm an american, and so are the people I care about. About reporters, that's their job to be there. If I were ever a photojpurnalist, and hopefully i will be, that's where I would want to be. Just like the military personnel, that's there job. As I've said before, I oppose this war too, but the time for debate is over. It's started, and now we must hope for the best of those involved. Forget about Bush. He'll suffer his fate come election time when he gets voted out, and our lives are free of this moron. But for now, i just hope our soldiers come back alive and well.
marionette
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I think war sux and people should just leave the others alone. If they want to be bad, then let them be how they are. That's all for now! Peace!
Mary Charmaine <daviddraimanbaby3@hotmail.com>
Costa Mesa, CA U.S.A. -

Sorry, I'm with puke on this one. There is NO WAY you can say an iraqi life is worth less than an american one. Both are equally sacred. What's pissing me off is the blatant hypocrisy in all these decisions. Surely you can't attack iraq claiming it's breaking UN treaties when attacking it would be breaking UN treaties as well? Surely you can't complain about iraq having missiles which go a few km further than they're supposed to, only to use weapons far far more destructive on said country? And surely you can't complain about how "Evil" Hussain is when it was the US government that put him in power?
Metal Malcolm
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"bombs over baghdad" , "liberating iraq" , "war on iraq" scrolling headlines on every non-cable television channel.
I CAN'T sit on my sofa with my remote at hand watching a city being destroyed.
I feel like a scum bag for watching WAR on tv. All of the explosions ... the orange + yellow lights yielding desctuction + fire. You can even hear shaking in the reporters voice. "Theres gonna be another big expl..." in reference to what hes witnessing only to be cut off by a big bang.
They look out their hotel room window to see fire and thick black smoke + buildings half standing.
I look out my window to see nothing but clouds consuming the sky.
i feel guilty.
i feel scared.
its too fucking eerie.

War on Iraq!
Live!
Tonight!
Sold Out!

natalie
ny -

I only care about Americans because, quite frankly, I'm an American. do you really think that citizens of other countries really give a shit about us. No, but they shouldn't. They don't see us every day. We're just people on t.v. to them. Let's be honest. Do you really care more about Iraqis than Americans. These people (americans) are your friends, your neighbors, your parents, your family, your teachers, and your police officers. You see, they are the people you care about most, and least, but they're there, EVERYDAY. That's why I say that I just hope this thing gets over with so they can come home. Besides, one of MY friends is over there, and I hope she can come back as quickly, and as safe as possible.
marionette
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"What's important is that this war end quickly and decisively so these men and women can come back to their families. Remember the most important thing is not liberating Iraqis and protecting them, it's the lives and freedoms of Americans. It seems our president and all those who called for this war forgot who they were supposed to protect."

dude, come on. aren't you getting sick of the american victim mindset? a nightclub in east asia explodes and hundreds of people die but all we care about is the three americans who were among them. so a guy in the marines has a family at home and it would be swell if he could see them again. guess what, he's a fucking marine, he's trained to kill, he even signed up for it! his job is to do what his commanders tell him and those in command shouldn't just be doing this for america. are we the only country in the world now? tony blair, one of the guys who "called for this war," isn't only involved for our country's benefit. oh yeah, it's a war on terror but just american terror, that would go over well. as it is what we're doing is illegal. we've violated just as many un treaties as iraq and iraq haven't killed nearly as many people with weapons of mass destruction as we have. our leaders need to look at the situation and think about how much they'd like it if the same thing we're doing to iraq were done to them, especially because it just might.
~victims of the puketure~
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excuse me puke, i think you are not experiencing the SHOCK AND AWE mr bush intended. apparently having your entire country bombed to shreds is not only shocking, but also awesome!
stefanie
wotown, nj -

what's really fun is seeing all the news coverage of the weapons that we're using in iraq. you can launch a tomahawk missle from 600 miles away and it has a gps to track it's target down to the meter. it's also fun to listen to bush talk about the mother of all bombs that he wants to use. we'll liberate iraq with the biggest explosions we can make. fight bombs with bigger bombs. gee, do you think he's got a small cock?
~weapons inspuketer~
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so what about those scud missiles that iraq doesn't have that were shot into Kuwait?
punchy
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heck ya baby!! only like 2 more months till it comes out!! then like another 8 monts until the third one comes out! fuck ya! im so there...that is if there IS A WORLD LEFT by then. fucking bush.
anna <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
fontana, ca ? -

Thank god the matrix reloaded is coming out soon. It's proboly the last breath of fresh air...
Greggy
middletown, NY -

I also am glad to state that I do not support this war nor am I decieved by the many veils that are tied to the truth in attempts to justify killing people. "There is no political solution to human problems because human problems are primarily philosophical. Political problems will only resurface in cycles until the philosophical problems are solved."
megziE
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First things first, Bush has the power to authorize military action without the consent of congress because he is the commander in chief, or the highest ranking military officer if you prefer. however, only congress can declare war, so if they vote no on declaring war, this becomes just another conflict. Next up, the "war" has started, and it sucks. I'm totally against the war, and I can't stand Bush. Most of you are lucky. He's only been your president for 2 years. He's was my governor before he was my president, so me and those around me have had our lives screwed up by this man for quite a few years now. Anyway, the war. I'm against it, but none of that matters now. What matters is the lives of our troops. nobody should be mad at them because they are just following orders, and doing there jobs. What's important is that this war end quickly and decisively so these men and women can come back to their families. Remember the most important thing is not liberating Iraqis and protecting them, it's the lives and freedoms of Americans. It seems our president and all those who called for this war forgot who they were supposed to protect. Let's see the Iraqis elect Bush into office next year, because i sure as hell hope americans don't. He really doesn't care what happens here and to us, only what happens to a land rich with oil, and the people who inhabit it half a world away.
marionette
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the war is stupid in first period our english teacher decided it was more important to wqtch the war on tv than teach so i left. stand up and take a stand war is wrong and anyone who supports it is wrong fuck the war fuck bush
nikki garcia <pollito022@hotmail.com>
irwindale , ca 91706 -

lol freedom fries. at work we don't call them freedom fries and we got like, 13 or so people protesting it the other day. this dude threw himself on the ketchup pumps and was all "if i were a fry.... i'd want to be slathered in delicious ketchup and have my first name changed to freeeeeedom.... i'd be mr.freeeeeeeeedom frrrrry" yeahh. some people go a little too far with this stuff.
valentine
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martial, not marital. bah.
stefanie
wo, nj us -

thank god that we're liberating the iraqi people. they may be "an enemy who has no regard for conventions of war or rules of morality" now, but once we're done with them they'll be so excited to be under marital law - oops, i mean democracy, and freeeeee just like we americans are! they LOVE our system of government and our state of morality! finally the people of iraq can understand how great it is to be an american, where a leader nobody elected is starting wars nobody wants, causing other countries to blow up all their defenses so he can rain the mother of all bombs down upon helpless civilians. i wonder if next time we decide to drop propaganda from our airplanes, we'll forgo the pamphlets in favor of freedom fries!
stefanie
wo, nj us -

When oh when are u going to be touring in england??? please come !!! You already have tons of fans over here!
Martin Bushby <dorfituk@yahoo.com>
Rotherham, yorkshire England -

put on a happy face, everyone! we're liberating! how heroic.
it's funny - not funny "haha," but funny "where'd my heartbeat go?" - that we sent un inspectors into iraq to look for weapons when all along we were planning on starting a war if saddam wouldn't step down. all that posturing and lobbying and now we're dropping bombs over something that we didn't finish a decade ago, letting saddam stay in power. oh yeah, isn't there something called congress and aren't they the one's who give the final heads up that we're gonna start a war? and what do the un inspectors hafta say about korea's weapons testing?
but nevermind all that nonsense, folks. fly yer flags high. or better yet just shut yer trap and let the big boys do all the work for you. donald duck says "taxes will beat the axis"
~barfhdad~
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No Salt Lake Show for us :( Oh well... Best wishes kids and Kidettes!
Amber <scarlingdarling@msn.com>
Clearfield, Utah USA -

hope you guys make it back safely :) i can't wait to see ya guys on friday and saturday!!
Six
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3/19 ATTENTION! theSTART has been trapped in Fort Collins CO since 3/17 by the worst snowstorm in the areas history since 1982. The snowstorm began sometime in the middle of the show Monday night at the Caladfwich. All Roads to Salt Lake City have been closed and, sadly, we will be forced to postpone tonights show at the Junction. We are devastated. We love playing SLC. But we did get some good Blizzard footage!! Wish us luck on our attempt to leave later this afternoon as we head towards Arizona. Is it snowing in Phoenix?
echo
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i loved those anti war adds, especially "war for peace is like f-ing for virginity". so true...so true... "its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel saaaaad!"
Anna <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
fontana, ca unfortunately, usa -

I saw two great antiwar slogans the other day in my campus' dorm room windows. "War for peace is like fucking for virginity." and "Touch your sack, not Iraq." Quite funny, but good nonetheless. I just find it ironic that humans are supposedly the supreme species - above all other living things on this earth. And yet, these are the sort of tactics we result to, we can't think of anything better. It sickens me to no end.
Amy <gorgeousxtrinity@aol.com>
Orange, CA -

Why are we always the victims? Why are we the underpowered ones. Peace can only promote more peace, contagious like a smile. Keep up the smile to the sad-hearted ones. War can bring no good, but more future war.
Summer <nachos4all@aol.com>
Orange, CA USA -

yes don't worry they're not planning on a war against the iraqi citizens! they just want to use a highly destructive bomb that destroys everything in a 1 mile radius and sets evrything in like a 8 mile radius on fire! i can't wait for that fiasco. i think saddam should be removed from power, but i really hope the have a better strategy than bombing innocent people that Saddam doesnt even care about! why does one need a bomb that large?! im referring to the MOAB i think it's called. check it out, it's massive. and i still like france!
punchy
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so i'm sure we've all done this topic to death but who saw the president speak last night and had to stop because they felt disgusting for being a citizen of this country that's about to do this horrible thing that the world will never forget? anyone?
stefanie <sms52@drexel.edu>
philadelphia, pa NO. -

You bet I'll be at Fullerton, just 10 minutes away from me. Ahhhhh, NAITE! Who's the one not e-mailing now, hhmmmm? Where's my reply from like, two weeks ago, hmm? Heh, just kiddin'. ;)
Amy S. <gorgeousXtrinity@aol.com>
Orange, CA -

I'm totally going. I'm expected. And I also live about half a minute from there. :) So who here can I expect to be making friends with?
Naite <naite@elseworth.com>
Fullerton, CA USA -

hey, im going to the csuf show, cuz i go to school there! im ditching almost all my classes, so i can watch them set up their stuff and stuff! you guys can get there early and watch soundchecks and stuff, its all out in the open, there is no audotorium or anything! there are no railings or anything, no barriers! i think usually around 9 or 10 is when they do the sound checks. i have class and 9:00 in the morning, and i almost always see the bands practically finished setting up their stuff around that time. so come on down and, to quote miss beautiful aimee echo, "bring your dancing shoes", cuz its gonna be awesome! and the more people that come, the more awesome it will be. oh yeah, by the way ITS FREEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anna <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
fontana, ca usa -

hopefully i'll be going to the fullerton show..if i can get these other people to drive because i wont have my car that week!! and im going to try to gather up enough moneys to make it to the bakersfield show...
Dawna
Lancaster, Ca -

im going to the fullerton show. :) i am going to san diego and bakersfield too this weekend. woot
jessiXa
pasadena, ca -

Hey peeps who's going to the CSUF show? ---Chris chick
Chris <FluxDIablo@hotmail.com>
Orange, CA -

I went to see The Start play at the Texas Blues Bar in Longview. It was THE BEST show I've ever beeen too. I had a REALLY shitty day and it just helped me to remember why I love punk music so much.
Nicole <nicknac456@yahoo.com>
Longview, TX USA -

Happy belated birthday Punchy <3
valentine
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stefanie, count me in!
natalie
ny -

hotel rooms!? now you're scaring me.
punchy
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natalie you can join the creepy roadtrip committee in july if you want... we can make this into a small army and we can go in on cheap hotel rooms up and down the coast. bwaaahahaha.
stefanie
philly, -

merci. natalie, i don't think they're doing it :( you can come to CT next time!
punchy
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUNCHY!!
ok so wait, they're not playing CT with hopesfall? oh man this is way uncool.
natalie
ny -

aww, happy birthday miss punchy.
~pukecels~ <puke@rock.com>
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happy belated birthday punchy!
maise
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i forgot to tell you my birthday was the other day. im 17 now. im so old. and man ive been coming to the speakout for a long time
punchy
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ECHO OBSESSION HAS MOOOOOOOOVED! Just posting this everywhere I possibly can, 'cause my old host won't let me log in to put up a sign post redirecting people to the new site... so yeah. Enjoy! http://echo.bythethroat.org
Bre <echo@bythethroat.org>
Arlington, WA USA -

natalie, from what i've heard they cancelled that date. Fata booking told me so, and those new Cave In dates that I saw somewhere start the 21st I belive and the first one is in San Francisco. 2 days from one coast to the other is pretty unlikely :( Anyways I was told there weren't going to be anymore east coast dates after the used tour until July or later.
punchy
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im gonna try my best to get up to CT for the hopesfall show. that is gonna be a great show. im so excited. i didn't see any nyc dates for the ak3 tour. ahhhhhhh!! guys im gonna cry. whats going on?
natalie
ny -

oh my lord. worst week EVER. my wallet got stolen. lame-o. then i wen to check on the start since i have been stranded from my computer for going on 8 months and what do i find? thSTART! the USED! together at last! i louisville, ky. a short hour and a half away. yeah. i am sooo there. warped tour on repeat. love lindsay p.s. war is dumb.do not use your political office to fullfill your personal vendettas and please write to your congressman. help that "special interest group" become a majority.
lindsay <onepiecekill@hotmail.com>
c-town, IN -

the glasshouse show with alkaline trio and theSTART goes onsale saturday. the tickets are 12.50. go to goldenvoice.com. i hope everyone goes. later!
richard <orgyfiend16@aol.com>
whittier, ca -

I got to see the Start on Monday, and it was amazing. Then my friend got us on the guest list for the show in Austin the next night, so we got in free. After seeing another awesome show, we said bye, and they invited us to the show tonight, but we don't have the money to drive up again, so I cannot attend. But they are just the best, and Aimmee is so sweet. It was the most fun I had in a while.
marionette
San Antonio, Tx -

I love the Start
Daidra Bell <moonbell_2000@yahoo.com>
Colorado Springs, CO usa -

I LOVED the Start the last time they played in Dallas last Summer. I was really hoping they'd come back our way, but unfortunately they havent :( They play Austin, Houston and every butt crack in Texas except Dallas recently. Boo-urns I REALLY hope they can make it to Dallas again. SOON! I can understand if it's because the crowd wasnt too big last time. Hopefully I can get my radio show going here in Denton, and I can play the hell out of The Start and have people fall in love with the music!
Frank Hejl <svsf_music@hotmail.com>
Denton, Tx United Sates -

i love the start
anna zelaya <ratgirl22@hotmail.com>
fontana, ca usa -

here are the dates for the start and alkaline trio Sat 06/07/03 Tempe, AZ The Marquee Theatre Sun 06/08/03 Las Vegas, NV House Of Blues Tue 06/10/03 San Diego, CA Canes Wed 06/11/03 West Hollywood, CA House Of Blues Thu 06/12/03 Pomona, CA Glass House Fri 06/13/03 San Francisco, CA Slim's Sat 06/14/03 San Francisco, CA Slim's Sun 06/15/03 Portland, OR Roseland Theater Mon 06/16/03 Seattle, WA Graceland Wed 06/18/03 Salt Lake City, UT Bricks Thu 06/19/03 Boulder, CO Fox Theatre Fri 06/20/03 Lawrence, KS The Bottleneck Sat 06/21/03 St. Louis, MO Mississippi Nights Sun 06/22/03 Louisville, KY Jillian's Mon 06/23/03 Cincinnati, OH Bogart's Wed 06/25/03 Minneapolis, MN Quest Club
richard <orgyfiend16@aol.com>
whittier, ca -

Hey, when are you guys coming over to the UK huh? come soon!!! pretty, pretty please???
Jen W <revsoc_03@hotmail.com>
Glasgow, Scotland -

The Start is out of control, I love you guys.
John BL <John.bush-luna@western.edu>
Denver, CO US -

Yes indeed! And she does have a new e-mail. Do you want it?
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
WA -

Thank you guys so much for swinging through and playing our city. You guys are one of my favorite bands. It was a plaeasure to meet all of you! Keep on rockin' and I hope to see you all here again. (at a better venue hopefully.)I love The Start!!!
Mike Richmond <descendingowl@yahoo.com>
Albuquerque, NM USA -

Thank you for such a wonderful time at last nights show. I'm sorry about the stage and feedback. I know it affected my performance, but you still rocked the night away. Thanks Aimee, Jamie, Brian, and Sarah Saturday for being the cool people you are. Its a night I wont soon forget
Justin Sidious <SoverNTbrigade@aol.com>
Albuquerque, NM USA -

I went to a show last night and I never knew the start, but after what i heard last night, i'll never forget it. They rocked and rocked...I loved every moment of it. I'm so happy I went to that show last night. I won tickets to it thru my university, I had to eat ice cream w/ onions, olives, jalopenos, and something else, i don't remember. But I'm glad I did 'cause I wouldv'e never met the start. I want to thank them for comin last night..it was the best! Rock on!!!
karen <liptonfeb@yahoo.com>
Flagstaff, AZ -

just wanted to post. i decided to make a start fan site. i asked my friend to help me too. i got a host and now its up and running. still working on some content. but here you go kiddies... http://mysecret.deaddesire.org/
jessixa <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

The start rock my world, everyone needs to unite to stop the war. anyone who supports war is either a nasty asshole or a complete idiot. or both (George Bush)
Jenny Walker <revsoc_03@hotmail.com>
Glasgow, Scotland -

i just want to say that i saw the start at the trabadour FEB.15 and i had the best time cause i got to hug my idle AIMEE ECHO. RROOOOOOOOOCCCCCKKKKKKKK OOONNNN AIMEE AND THANKS FOR A GREAT SHOW.
sandra <geekalousis@yahoo.com>
lake forest, cali. u.s.a -

I went to the Southgate show last night. It was nice and very intimate because of the small crowd that came. I appreciate that show very much. Thank You.
Olivia <melroselivy@yahoo.com>
Pico Rivera, CA USA!!! -

ROCKKKKKKK ON!
josh c <scarbourne@hotmail.com>
el paso, Tx USA -

i find it harder to get photos of drummers cos i always use my digicam or crappy disposable cameras, which aren't really even meant for concert photography and typically wind up sucking the big one. and brian seems to dislike me hunting him down and demanding photos pre or post-show. as for angie i DID hear from her about a month ago... she's been busy with her boyfriend and many many other things apparently. i do miss copacetic; that girl is amazing. i think she may have a new email? i will try to find out what that's all about.
stefanie
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lol. i was just making a light comment on something i found funny. oh well. long live the camera and roll of film...or in some cases the camera, computer, and whatever else the digital camera needs.

oh btw, while i am here, there are like, 8 tribute cds that got mailed back to me because they could not find the addresses..... anyone who had ordered, please send me your address again, i have been trying to fix this for the past month and none of you are responding to my email. im trying to get the cds to you. i even checked the address in usps.com and they all seem fine which strikes me odd. poorpinkflower, and pagliacci and a couple others went through just fine so far no returns as of yet. im going to end up going crazy from this. maybe its just my post office being stupid. which does happen alot. but please, just to make sure that the address is correct so you can get your cd, please eMail me at blueamphetamine@hotmail.com with "tribute addy" in the subject. i'll throw in some stickers with each one that was delayed as well. i am really, really sorry about the whole ordeal.
valentine
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i got more pictures from the show last night in south gate @ the allen theatre... heres the link. enjoy... http://www.burned-bridges.net/~lostgirl/thestart/allen/
jessixa
pasadena, Ca -

we enjoy photographing the guitar tech!
punchy
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I'm going to miss Jeff as well. Such is life!! Hey Stef... have you heard from Ang (copacetic.nu) at all? I've not talked to her in like... a year! Besides getting cards from her, she is MIA. Hope she's doing well.
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
WA -

hahahaha, it doesn't matter how many pictures of who were taken when and for what reason. it was just a comment. of course there's more pictures of aimee, she sings. aside from bands like dogstar (keanu reeves plays bass) normally people photograph, interview, and videotape the singer more than anybody. drummers are typiclly the opposite. and guitar techs... well, let's not go there.
~cappukeccino~
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heeeeey broooooo...
valentine
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duuuuude.
stefanie
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hey jerk, i have lots of jaime pictures too! but i guess you're right, while i do have a lot of jamie pictures i think i have mostly aimee ones. and an abundance of jeff.
punchy
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glad you all liked the pictures. i was standing on sarah's side and it was craziness so it was quite hard to take pics of jamie. im going to the show tommorow night and plan to stand on his side and try to take some more of him rocking out. and hopefully a few more of bryan. ill be sure to post them once i get them.
jessixa <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

hey puke, thats not true. i've taken almost as many jamie pictures(if not more than aimee pictures)trying to get that one shot of jamie mid air. what sucks is i finally got it, but you cant see his head. you can however see his feet off the ground. i guess that was the whole purpose for it anyway. oh well.

and on another note, not to be a downer on the whole new bassist thing, but i miss jeff.
valentine
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now there's somebody in the band who gets as many pictures taken of them as aimee. bravo, sarah.
it's not for sure but maybe i'll be joining the tour from ladyfest on. it depends on what happens at work. anybody played a line 6 variax lately?
~puke not nukes~
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jessixa those photos are adorable, thanks for posting :) no hard feelings? ahhh, when are they going to announce dates closer to here? punchy and i need to rack up our roadtrip points again. and here's a better question, is the illustrious puke travelling the nation with them again? ahhhh april is too far away. i'm all psyched now.
the notorious k-i-w-i
philadelphia, -

WOW!!! Awesome pics, thanks for sharing. I went to the show in Ventura, it was good of course becuase it was theSTART, but it was really weird. It was in the rec room of a church or something... very strange.
Shannon <shannon@unearthed.com>
ca -

i went to the show in newport and actually remembered to bring my camera... so here are some shots of the show last night which was utterly amazing... enjoy... http://www.burned-bridges.net/~lostgirl/thestart/
jessiXa <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

hey looking forward to playing with you guys at the allen theatre this friday. its gonan be a good one. hope you have fun. i know we will --the frustrated-wheels-
wheels from the frustrated <pdub989r@hotmail.com>
pico rivera, ca los angeles -

Well punchy, I don't about all the other new people, but I just discovered the Start 2 weeks ago when I saw them live. I was hooked instantly! So, that's where I came from.
shannon <shannon@unearthed.com>
CA -

where did all these new people come from? this board and the other has been unusually active. it's insane!
punchy
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Does anyone here live in the Cincinnati, OH area? If so are you helping to promote for the shows here and in Louisville? Drop me an E-mail if you'll be there :)
stephen <eiflers@nku.edu>
cincinnati, oh 45230 -

Speak out, Speak easy, Bring in the light. Aimee, you look BEAUTIFUL as usual. Hope to hear your lovely voice again. You are always close to my heart, literally!
elizabeth <countess@mail2leo.com>
Denver, CO USA -

I am looking forward to the Rochester show the 16th in NY. I cant wait to see the band that I have been so interested in ever sence the day I heard you on the radio a year ago. Shakedown is on hell of a CD. Not a bad song on it. Keep up the great music.
Jack Meneilly <neff4@att.net>
NY -

Hey guys I just wanted to ask that you promote Fair Trade. It helps to rebuild foriegn markets, and I belive that it would help to reduce the risks of war. Go to www.fairtradefederation for more info on how you can be involved. NO WAR let's help rebuild these countries the right way!!!!!
melissa <musikheadz@yahoo.com>
monrovia, ca usa -

http://www.moveon.org/emergency/
stefanie
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Hey, when are you guys gonna tour in England again?!? I saw you in Brighton last halloween with Strung Out and you rocked! I bought your CD and chatted with aimee a bit but i want (!) more cuz that was sooo lng ago. Im also pisd off cuz the case got thrown in the bin, not by me, so now i only have the disc :( Please come back to Blighty soon!
Kate <K8ALINA4@yahoo.co.uk>
England -

Hey, when are you guys gonna tour in England again?!? I saw you in Brighton last Oct with Strung Out who, along with yourselves, were amazing! I got your Death Via Satellite ep but the case got thrown in the bin so now all i have is the disc :( PLLLLEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE come to good ol' blighty again soon! :)
Kate <K8ALINA4@yahoo.co.uk>
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hey peeps. im baaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaack.
kt
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tj... I work in Valencis, but I live in Canyon Counrty (ughh!) I'll get out one day! Why? You live out here? Sorry for the delayed response...I haven't been back here in a while! :)
Shannon <shannon@unearthed.com>
usa -

Malcom! thank you for using the post... the world needs to know! thank you!~human
human <human@thestart.org>
LA , CA USA -

One more thing today...I Promise. Aimee, did you know we share a Birthdate? I bet you didn't. I just found out myself. Useless information that makes me happy. Maybe I can get out to the new Austin date considering it's closer. Anyone in the DFW area wanna talk to me about some kind of carpool leap of faith in strangers? Lemme know.... Ok i'll go now for good.
megziE
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That's why I ended it like I did to show that it wasn't so much judgement, as it was my opinion. But all the same I'm Sorry if you felt threatened. Nothing but LOVE here for everyone. <3
megziE
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For teh record I wasn't attacking you. Just giving my opinion. I am still entitled to that right?
megziE
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i understand you have bills and i don't mean to jump down your throat. it's awesome that you've been a huge supporter and whatnot but i dunno, i just hate it when people sell autographs on ebay... seeing people at shows who don't even know half the band members' names telling them what a huge fan they are and then selling the item they got signed the next day, for three times the retail value cos it's fully signed... i've known bands who started specifically requesting the name of person for whom they were signing autographs, just so they could prevent its going on ebay, and that just sucks that any band would have to do that just to prevent having to be turned into a vehicle for someone else's profit. i should not have assumed you were one of those, and i apologise. i was in a particularly bad mood and i'm sorry i bit your head off.
stefanie
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Jessixa, I don't think it's a big deal that you are selling the shirt to get to more shows. I live in monrovia, maybe we could car pool to the local show to save on gas:).
melissa <musikheadz@yahoo.com>
monrovia, ca usa -

I played a gig tonight with a "supergroup" of local musicians. We played effects-drenched post rock stuff. The first song I read a monologue. Iused the post on the last archives page.

Hoppe that's okay human. It was a non profit night if that helps.
Metal Malcolm
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you guys are amazing
kimberly brothers <kimmy@deadcitysunday.com>
roseville, Ca 95747 -

first off. all i am trying to do is go support my favorite band. however i have way too many bills. im planning to go see them 5 times this month and 4 times in april. but with insurance that is over 300 bucks a month and a job that is cutting their hours back plus gas being at least 2 bucks a gallon now it makes it a lil hard. i love the start. i have tons of stuff signed by them. i have a start wars shirt signed by everyone with special messages. i got all my cds signed and my ticket stubs. i got a pic from jamie. granted i do not want to give any of that away and i won't. because yes it means alot to me. it took me a while to come up with the decision to sell that one shirt i have. i know the start doesnt tour everywhere.and maybe someone would want a cool shirt like that. all i am looking for is some money to pay for my other start shows. either way the money is all going back to the start. i paid the 10 bucks for the shirt. if i sell it for 20. hey i made ten bucks. and that pays for almost two shows. its not like im selling everything that they sign for me. this is one damn thing. and for those who don't know. i have gotten multiple things signed for people that live outside california(and the u.s.) and have shipped them to them. FOR FREE. i have bought the shakedown cd for people because they didn't have money but really enjoyed the start. i love this band. and im not trying to make a profit off them. i know the band. i know theyre hard working. i've seen them an awful lot. and have talked to them all. i ran all over pomona to get aimee some medicene before the show cuz she had just had a tooth pulled. you guys are entilted to think what you want. i just think you were a lil quick to attack. and i never had intentions to sell the shirt for 80 bucks. thats ridiculous. i was just hoping to make like 10 bucks so i can go see the start again. and i see nothing wrong with that. cuz the money is going back to them. aimee even told me she would help me out with the shows in florida that im going to. but i want to do my best to try to help them out. because yes they do everything themselves and i respect them for that. i'll just leave it at that.
jessixa
pasadena, ca -

Exactly, different meaning for different people. Just a matter of what you believe in, and whatever that is *shrug* that's you. Just don't go attacking someone until you understand their side, that's what it's all about. *shrug* I've said my 2 cents, I'm out.
yeap.
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I'll try to get out to San Antonio but I don't get my car until around the 27th and It will be hard to convince my parents to drive out to see my favorite band. I'll try hard though cause I haven't seen them in almost a year or so. I understand this whole T shirt issue. it's not that it's ONE shirt it's the ethics and morals behind it. The point isn't the money, or that the profit is probably going back to the band, it's the fact that if that something you bought meant so much ( assuming it did in the first place since you purchased it) then why would you give it up for more cash unless you were to buy AGAIN the above mentioned t-shirt? Then all in all you made a profit, regardless of your intentions to use the profit, off of something that means a great deal to you (theSTART) without their consent. Kind of like you were the middle man in a strict manufacturer-consumer relationship. I dunno. It has different meaning for different people i suppose. But E-bay makes me feel dirty.
megziE
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Dude...calm down. It's not like she's looking to become a millionaire off this one little shirt, she's just hoping to break even to get to another start show to support her friends. Besides, she gave her money to the band for the shirt, and she'll most likely just break even if it sells. And what will she do with that money? Buy a start ticket, which is what? Oh yeah, more money for the band. If she were doing this with every damn thing she got signed then yeah I'd have a problem with it. But dude, this is just one friggin' shirt, where she's just hoping to break even. Calm down.
yeah.
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apparently sarah is playing bass on the out-of-california dates and apparently she fancies herself cuter than jeff. the grapevine tells me she plays a six-string? that's all i got. as for the ebayer... granted you already probably paid for the shirt and whatnot so you figure you got your dues and the money's just going back to the band, but when a band signs a shirt for someone they take it in good faith that the item means a lot to the person and that the item they're signing is not going to be sold and their autograph is just to heighten its sale value. that's just cheap, and even if you're using that money to go see the band another bunch of times, that's still just not cool. you picked the wrong band to do that for. try that on someone with record label support buddy.
stefanie
philadelphia, -

OK, seeing as I obviously can't make the show, and my computer seems to be unable to play the video, can someone please explain who Sarah is?
Metal Malcolm
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why would you sell something if meant so much to you? getting a band to sign something, and then sell it on eBay in hopes that someone will pay the amount they did for the Human Waste Project shirt (which was sold for 70 some dollars) is unethical. If the band means so much to you, why try and make a buck off merchandise signed by the band? i'll admit, i too am strapped for cash, but i wouldnt go around selling things like that.
a fellow fan
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it would be really sad if thestart couldnt even play the shows because you're trying to make money off them. just a thought.
me
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woops sorry guys didn't mean to post twice. also the video clip didn't work on my computer. i definetely wanted to see it..
jessixa
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29928&item=2512866555&rd=1 hey guys. im really poor. lol so i decided to sell this shirt.. that i got at the glass house show on ebay so i can afford to go see the starts next 9 shows... so if ya guys are intrested go take a look. its a one of a kindshirt. and yes its got sarah's autograph ahha ya gotta see what she did to it too
jessixa <her_nemesis@sbcglobal.net>
pasadena, ca -

theSTART is awesome!
nikki <nikkimw@excite.com>
central point, OR USA -

lmao
~i told puke so~
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Is there any chance that the Start will be heading to Fairbanks, Alaska any time soon?
Rachael <voice_killer@hotmail.com>
AK -

i love aimee! i think her voice and words are beyond sexy! i hope to be able to see them sometime
amy hoover <dalilah52@hotmail.com>
shelbyville, in usa -

i really enjoy listening to theStart and human waste project.
Ashley <waste_of_jill@hotmail.com>
El Monte, CA United States -

hey shannon, where in santa clarita are you?
tj
USA -

oo... i wanted to say The Start rocks! I saw them for the 2nd time at the Glasshouse(wednesday). Sexy Aimee and Sarah were awesome... I want more of them!
Casper
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I WANT THE START!!!
Casper <Offspring_Sublime_Chick1@yahoo.com>
Compton, CA -

I WANT THE START!!!
Casper <Offspring_Sublime_Chick1@yahoo.com>
Compton, CA United States -

I WANT THE START!!!
Casper <Offspring_Sublime_Chick1@yahoo.com>
Lynwood, CA United States -

I saw The Start for the first time on Wednesday at The Glass House in Pamona and I was completely blown away! You guys are an awesome band. I bought your cd right after your performance, and the only complaint I have is that it's too short...I want more! You guys rock!!!
Shannon <Shannon@unearthed.com>
Santa Clarita, CA USA -

i saw you guys for the second time at the glasshouse on wednesday and damn you guys fucking rock. i love you aimee. sara was awesome both of you are beautiful. THANKS FOR SIGNING MY SHOE AIMEE!!!!! i lovvvvvvvvvvvvve you guys i cant wait till i see you again.
Courtney Hall <heymoeemo@cs.com>
covina, ca usa -

Glasshouse Video Clip-preview Sarah Saturday!
human <human@thestart.org>
la, ca ysa -

sorry ignore the previous comment i thought i was just registering. I just wanted to say that i thought Sarah was soo cool at the glass house last night and should be a permenant part of the Start if she's not already. Sarah you Rock!!!
Katheryn <Chicknsox@aol.com>
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yep i have no comments sorry
Katheryn Naranjo <chicknsox@aol.com>
whittier, ca USA -

every time i see you perform live i am completely blown away|thanks for everything \m/
stevo
los angelos, -

Saw The Start at The Glass House in Pomona yesterday(Wednesday). It was a great show. You guys won my heart yesterday.
Tim
Northridge, Ca United States -

What you do here What you see here What you hear here When you leave here Let it stay here
VRGOVXN420 <vrgovxn419@yahoo.com>
Jasper, Tx USA -

yo
ben <virus81@msn.com>
lancaster, ca usa -

We should all support Fair Trade.
melissa tapia <musikheadz@yahoo.com>
monrovia, ca 91016 -

here's the ladyfest web addy http://www.ladyfestseattle.org/
maise
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I just was checking the start tour line up and they are playing the ladyfest in seattle WA... Does any body have the web adress for the info for the enterntainment at ladyfest? I'm interested to see what bands,in addition to the start ,are playing there. A band i'm playing drums for right now, we are playing the ladyfest in philidelphia, so I was just interested to see if the same bands were playing both. If anybody has info that would be cool, Thank you...
greggy
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Rock!
Caroline <filtergirl15@hotmail.com>
VA USA -

Mellowdrone.. crazy, I got their EP thingy when Artist Direct was giving them away. good stuff!
cindy <cindyelder@hotmail.com>
Lincoln, NE -

megziE, Scott works for White Trash Charms.
Goodness, a show with .hopesfall. now i'm excited. Onelinedrawing just played with them and co+ca. soooo i think aimee should give jonah a call and they should plan a tour together, cos that would rock me so so hard. Im gonna try to get to all the shows i can get to, so Stefanie i shall see you again this year :o)
natalie
ny -

megziE, why don't you venture on down to San Antonio. The Start is playing here March 10. I know I'm going. All in or near San Antonio should go, so we can have a big crowd to welcome them.
marionette
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Hey has anyone ever heard of Simon Stinger? They're from Cali and they're pretty sweet.
zoey <kitten12380@aol.com>
Lyons, CO USA -

Scott is doing good. He is playing drums for Mellowdrone (which is actually just Jon & Scott) and they are on tour with Johnny Marr (former Smiths guitarist) He was at the Troubadour show. Lance is the coolest. I think he is the first to stage dive during theStart. I hope theStart plays with the Art of Safe Cracking again. I'll see most of you at the merch both tomorrow. :) much luv Timothy
Timothy <Timpossible20@aol.com>
Buena Park, CA -

can I do a little bit of self promoting here if everyone doesn't mind? if you guys are bored head on over to my page I've got some surveys to do and crap. if you're especially bored and want a topic to fill out a long survey to, email me, tell me the topic and I'll see what I can do in 15 minutes. thank you!
Caitlin <darkness_pawn@itookmyprozac.com>
TX USA -

Ugh, Marionette!!!!! You're so lucky! He came here last month, but I couldn't go because I had to work. I REALLY wanted to see that :l
Steph <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
Sammamish, WA -

I heard Scott works at a jewelry store? I could be wrong. theSTART needs to hit Dallas so I can be saved again.
megziE
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Voices are amazing things...some people shouldn't have them. Others should shout more often.
Brandy Lail <bnl9710@uncwil.edu>
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If you like spoken poetry by punk rockers, you should check out Atilla The Stock Broker. My band had the privalage to share the stage with him in NYC last 4 of july, and his material is highly entertaneing.He had a few peoms in peticular, mocking today's hip-hop artistes and how they brag about how big there penis is, how much money they have, and that treating wemon like shit is cool. He tore apart m&m and puff daddy the most and how they have millions of dollars and they are still pissed off. It was the most entertainment i've seen out a show in a while.
greggy
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Has anyone been to one of Henry Rollins' spoken word shows. I went to one last night, and it was fucking hilarious, but very insightful as well. I recommend it to all.
marionette
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word punchy... this tour i'm actually planning on hitting not only the very local (philly and nyc areas) and far north (new england), i am actually considering going to shows in and around dc since they're not so very far from philly either... it hit me last time that the only thing keeping me from driving there (dc is so much closer than worcester, it's incredible) was uhh fear of southern accents? psch. i wonder if anybody would mind. i guess we'll find out. no, i have no life.
stefanie
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we;re there stef.
punchy
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19th of april i mean. just to clarify.
me again
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on the 19th someone posted on the other board that they're playing in west hartford with hopesfall. i'm so there it's not even funny. i'd imagine a new york area date will follow soon after...
stefanie
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any word of how the ever-so-lovely Scott is doing? i hope all is well with him.
also..HUMAN! what are the boys and girl doing after that Rochester (NY) date. I really hope they're coming right down to the nyc area. before i pull my hair out from the anticipation.
natalie
ny -

It was half at marionette and half a general apology. No offense meant or taken.
Metal Malcolm
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I wasn't referring to you, Malcolm dearest (LAWD, I sound like an old woman)...incase you thought I was?
Bronagh
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I have dreams of the world's ending fire, floods, destruction... should I have such visions pending? Your eyes are covered. A puckered lip lover. Your nation sets you free, but we don't all live through T.V.
N <marvelani@hotmail.com>
murphy, tx. U.S.A -

I apologise for the tone of that post. I was drunk and had spent a day arguing with fools at work. However, I do believe that every single argument for attacking iraq has no basis in logic or reason, and I would have said that I believe the people who espouse these arguments have not thought in any way about why they believe them, were I not too fucked up to type.

I've just cut all my hair off. Rock.
Metal Malcolm
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Two things. First, I was at the Tsunami Bomb show (a band you should check out if you haven't heard of them), and I found out the Start is coming on March 10. That's fucking great. Second, to the person that posted that article about the Bush administration, that was an excellent peice of information. It's one thing to say the war with Iraq is bullshit, and follow it up with something like that. And it's quite another thing to say if you support a war with Iraq, you're an idiot, and I can prove it. Don't say you can prove it, do it. Well done.
marionette
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RUSPECT TO DE PUKE!!!12 \M/
Haha, the patronising tone in that last post was priceless.
Bronagh
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see recent previous posts archive XVI
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i think that the start is fucken bad ass. i love the cd and cant wait to see them.
stephanie <s0913@msn.com>
la, ca usa -
war = bad. anything that involves a lot of people dying can't be good. love = good. granted that isn't all it takes to solve problems. neither is arguing. i love theSTART. i'm here for the music... ~ruby
ruby <r10t_grrl@hotmail.com>
San Diego, CA USA -
two elux oop on ebay right now...
human <human@thestart.org>
la, ca usa -
Anyone know if Elux would still happen to be in some obscure hole in the wall music stores or shall I search for it online or it it just hopeless?
megziE
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He has a point... this war is clearly about oil and it is obviously an unnessesary war.
megziE
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And please don't misunderstand me. If you support a war on Iraq, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
And I can prove it.
Metal Malcolm
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