speakoutarchive 14 02/21/02-10/01/02

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New date from aimee on the other board

10/15/02 Fireside bowl
mia
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yeah i am too...i e-mailed dan and he was supposed to find out yesterday, but i guess he didn't. but we will know soon..i hope it's not off because i've been conserving my money all week, eating cafeteria food (ick)
ricki
someplace, tx -

Okay, I'm starting to get worried now. I'm making plans to go home on friday anyways, but I'm not gonna have much to do if theStart's not doing a Houston show.
Kroze
TX -

Hey chris!!!! I miss you girl! Can't wait to see you at the show. :)
Ellen
costa mesa, ca -

Hey guys it's Chris long time no see...Ellen, Erika wassup. I'll be at the Chain show so see ya there. kisses. Erika i'll call ya this weekend or so. (finally back outta hiding)
Chris <noneasofthistimerightnow>
ORANGE, CA -

WHERE WILL THE START BE PLAYING TONIGHT 10-1 IN AZ!!!???
Andrew <guszmiller@cox.net>
Phoenix, AZ USA -

theSTART Street Team I made has a new address:

http://www.digaponymusic.com/streetteam/
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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human will post info as soon as she gets it
she kicks ass like that.
ricki
somewhere, in tx -

Hey ive seen the start two times in phoenix and they kicked ass. It was the best show i have ever seen. Also i talked to the band after both shoes and they were really nice, and answered all my questions. Jamie even let me play his keyboard a bit (it was on but oh well lol). Anyways im going to try and make it to Show on the 1st in AZ, but since its says TBA announced i have no idea where it is. Anyone know?
jesusincorporated <deadpaperboys@yahoo.com>
Phoenix, Az none -

Austin? still too far for a school day....grrr.
megziE
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Are Tsunami Bomb playing on the first or second date?
Bronagh
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tsunami bomb rock.
kenickie
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AUSTIN?! *sniff*
damn.
ricki
tomball, -

HEY WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON EVERYBODY!?!?
kt
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new theSTART dates!
Mon. September 30th ALL AGES
@ Skrappys
201 east Broadway
Tucson, AZ
With Tsunami Bombs
Thurs. OCT 3 18+
@ Flamingo Cantina
515 East 6th Street
Austin, TX

human <human@thestart.org>
la, ca usa -

i didnt see a TBA band for 10/3 on the java jazz site, there's a spot on 10/4 with fed by ravens, who they played with last time...hmm maybe they can swap houston and spring..they are only an hour apart anyways. im just being paranoid! =)
ricki
tomball, tx -

Hey everyone, Ick, I'm mad, since the texas AND louisiana concert dates are still TBA. If they don't announce it soon, I won't be able to go... I hope they do, since I would kill ( not literally) to meet Aimee... Anyone have any idea about those shows??? Kittie
Kittie <PuNkPiXiE696@msn.com>
Greenwood, La USA -

I checked the JavaJazz webpage; they have a band listed as being TBA on 10/3. I guess that's a good sign =). Most likely, at least one of the houston dates will work out, though, so I wouldn't worry.
Kroze
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erm...any word on where the 2 texas dates are going to be? this is kinda cutting it close..eep! hopefully they are still going to be able to play...my backyard is always empty...
ricki
tomball, tx -

I just saw theStart for first time last night at The Setlist in warrensburg Mo...(which by the wa is a kick ass place)...TheStart kicked ass....Thanks for the show...james
James <Thiefofhearts78@hotmail.com>
Warrensburg Mo, Mo Usa -

about purchasing the reSTART cd.....
All orders must be recieved by Oct.9th So that you can get your order on time.
We will only accept well concealed cash, and Money Orders. No personal checks.
Send an eMail to Mia@digaponymusic.com if you have any questions about the pricing please when you send me an eMail, ask the question then.

Mia
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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Orgasmic!! thats the same word i used to describe the new/old nirvana song. arrrgh. why are there no NY dates!?!?!? i will find a way this time. i gotta.
natalie
ny USA -

for the person asking if theSTART were playing NY on the 11th i think the answer is no. on the other board this guy said theSTART are playing in Telford, PA @ THE TELFORD BOROUGH HALL, Doors are at 6, and its 5 bucks.
punchy
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mmm yea that NEW/OLD Nirvana song is orgasmic.
megziE
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Pre-Order reSTART and help fund theSTART Europe tour -----
The time is drawing near. The tribute cd, reSTART, should be out sometime in late October. Here are the ways you can purchase the cd. Send a money order for the amount, and leave the name field blank. We will need to cash them in ourselves so that we can pay for shipping and then put all the donations together into one big check.
The price for the Tribute Album is $4 for shipping and then a donation of $6 at the least. From your total amount you send, everything, but $4 for shipping and handling, will go to theSTART.
So your total if you're only donating $6 will be $10 .
Remember, the money is going to fund theSTART in europe. This is what I want them to use it for anyway, knowing Aimee, she'll donate it to charity. But still, send in your orders via eMail to Mia@digaponymusic.com with "reSTART order" and I'll eMail you the address to send the money order to. The cd will not be sent until the money order has been recieved.

Please see http://www.digaponymusic.com
Mia Valentine <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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its a NEW old nirvana song. and like its really REALLLY good. hole did do a cover of the song in 95ish on their unplugged but i like the nirvana way diffrent, and like the lyrics are diffrent, and the was it is put together is diffrent. and wow, its fantastic.
punchy
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well by new, i dont mean it was written yesterday. i should have said unheard. yeah hole covered it at unplugged and changed all the words. she even admits she fxxked up the song.
ANYWAY. so is theSTART playin NY on oct 11th?? or are they taking a day off? anyone?
natalie
ny -

new nirvana song? ain't that like old? eh? hole did it on the mtv unplugged set. hmmmmmm
cruella <poor_pink_flower@hotmail.com>
UK -

for anyone interested. or who doesn't know yet. that *new* nirvana song, You Know YOu're Right, has been leaked in full. its on kazaa. length is about 3:46. it really is amazing. and i know some of you guys like nirvana. so go find it!
natalie
ny -

My bestfriend Rae and I went to the Portland concert at the Meow Meow on the 19th...it was THE BEST EVER! As we were buying merch from Aimee, we asked if the band was planning on playing "Hang On Me" (one of our FAV Start songs). She didn't know at the time, but when they got up on stage, their second to last song was "Hang On ME"!!!! theSTART totally played it for us, we were SO stoked!! Even though we probably seemed like total dorks, asking for their autographs after the show, they were SUPER nice about it! I LOVE THE START!!!!!!!!!! :-) They made mine and Rae's day!
Keeley <rockstarr653@hotmail.com>
Beaverton, OR USA -

oh yes i rememeber you...i thought it was kinda crazy you wanted to take a picture of me and phil, but yeah. so they didn't come out? that sucks. i'll be taking some at the upcoming shows, and i guess i'll see you there!!
ricki
huntsville, tx -

Yeah, I was at the Spring show; I was the one taking pictures. I know I said I'd post them, but none of the one's I took during the show came out that good.
Kroze
College Station, TX -

yeah i remember Nick, i talked to him for a while at the Spring show. crazy kid. i hope aimee keeps good on her promise that my bro can play bass on a song.. he would pee his pants. were you at that show??
ricki
huntsville, tx -

I can't believe you didn't notice that when you first looked at the tour list, Ricki; that was the first thing I noticed. Anyways, my friend Nick's band Rae REALLY wants to open for theStart when they play Spring if at all possible. Jaime might remember Nick; he's the guitar nut from the Spring show where Jeff couldn't make it. No big deal if they can't, though; me and Nick are just stoked about seeing theStart again. Later, everybody.
Kroze <haxorfied@aol.com>
College Station, TX -

I'm excited to see theStart tonight (I haven't seen them live since July of last year), but I will be surprised if a lot of people are there. the club hasn't promoted the show at all, and Soulfly is also playing Omaha tonight. oh well, as long as the show is still ON, I'll be happy.
Cindy
Lincoln, NE -

oh shit i just saw that they are playing spring AND houston...ohh...theSTART two nights in a row...im gonna cry or explode or something
ricki
huntsville, tx -

khfkjegbkerg! who all here is going to that Houston show no matter where it is? i know i am! ;)
ricki
huntsville, tx -

anyone know if theSTART is playing on the llth in new york?
ryan <rainnyx4@aol.com>
nyack, ny us -

Arrrrgh! I wish I was in So. Cal. They do lots of shows down there *Tear* DAMN! Someone went shooting? That's no good. My parents went to Cal High. Damned gang assholes. eE moved up to the Seattle area to get away from the rising crime and such... I actually used to live in Riverside which is probably worse than Whittier. Eesh. HAVE FUN AT THE ANAHEIM AND VEGAS SHOWS! :D :D
Stephanie <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
WA -

Alright, I know alot of you are constantly looking for a Street Team on theSTART so I decdided to start one. Its called theSTART Alliance. You can sign up by going to the site address, This site is in its early stages, I just threw it together this morning so please hold tight as it changes the site address and more things are added. http://mia.digaponymusic.com/promote/ you can also click on my name to get to the page.
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
fresno, ca -

YESS!! Im sooooo gonna be at that chain reaction show. Thanx for informing us Richard. See ya there!
ellen
costa mesa, ca -

Stefanie! i'll try to get to birch hill (oh so hard). do you have any tips on how to hot-wire cars?
natalie
ny -

NEW theSTART SHOW!!!! on oct 26th marck your callenders. theSTART w/ Noise Ratchet at chain reaction in anaheim. tickets through TM and are 10 bucks. www.allages.com. thats where i found it! the start twice in 1 month.. this is gonan be great. who will be at the vegas show as well? me and my friend omar will definitely be there! -richard ps. stephanie, cool that u grew uo in whittier. bad things have come about here. whittier high school was on lock down yesterday. soone went in shooting. hail to thee alma mater.....lmfao
richard <XxdeathsdoorXx@aol.com>
whittier, ca -

E! I cannot wait for them to come back to WA :D :D :D :D I am so friggin excited still from Friday. Richard from Whitter, I was born there! I still visit like twice a year cause my family lives there. What a small woooorld.
Stephanie <madetoburn@hotmail.com>
WA -

Hey there people, If you're looking for another band with a fabulous female lead singer you should check out the Kidneythieves. They're just beautiful. Click on the link below and sign onto my team please, you won't regret it. http://i-squad.net/cgi-bin/extasy.cgi?sf=1&s=yes&u=roht&a=kidneythieves
Liz <jockdestroyer@hotmail.com>
Allentown, PA USA -

ack i want to go to the birch hill show too, im gonna get a job and quit after my first paycheck ahahha. but im going to the worcester show for sureeee. hoooray for massachusets.
punchy
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aww my baby went to see theSTART in seattle yesterday and i couldnt go cuz i live in the uk so he went especially for me! and he bought me one of everything they were selling heheh. and he got aimee and jamie to sign a cd. don't ya just love guys :)and theSTART of course!
cruella <poor_pink_flower@hotmail.com>
UK -

hey everyone, theStart will be in spring, texas/houston/la! in october, but it's under TBA, so hopefully (prays) they will be coming for sure! _Kittie_
Kittie <PuNkPiXiE696@msn.com>
Greenwood, La USA -

natalie, come to the birch hill show if they're not playing in new york! bring bill! steal someone's car! they have a nice free parking lot! and it's a great venue! and... and... and... damn it, go!
stefanie
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So HWM and thrice and all those bands are playing NYC on the 11th. but i didn't see any dates for the 11th. is this because.... maybe theSTART are taking a day off. or are they playing a club by themselves?!? PUNCHY! help me out :o)
natalie
ny -

the paradox sells most of their tix at the door. you should get in fine tonight. parking is generally not too bad there, but it is on the ave. & it's friday, so the college kids might be out. anyways, i just got back from the portland show & can't wait for 2nite. they freakin sold out of the small shirt i wanted AND small hoodies already. 8>/
*jeris* <nerdykid01@hotmail.com>
bellevue, wa -

punchy is coming. mm.
punchy
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Sounds good. man i gotsa save my money for those tickets and NoDoubt/Distillers/Garabage and some Halloween concert i found out about yesterday. Good Music is a luxury.
megziE
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hey megzie and kroze, so they're gonna be back in texas in early october, hell yes! Megzie, we definately need to meet up, we'll have an awesome time! I'm bringing my friend Cara as well, she's not really a theStart fan, but hopefully she will be when I'm through will her, heh. Well, you guys email me or somethin, oh, does aimee have an email address??? _Kittie_
Kittie <PuNkPiXiE696@msn.com>
Greenwood (well, Shreveport, actually), La USA -

I'm just wondering. Are you guys a mod band? The name sounds like you would be.
Chris Edwards <cedwa@usa.com>
Indiana, Pa USA -

Hell yeah, the Start's gonna be back in Houston and Spring early October!!!!!! Now we just need to get them to play College Station ...
Kroze
College Station, TX -

oh it's so thestart road trip time. miz echo, i shall email you. mia is coming!!!
stefanie
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I strongly agree! Buy merch at the shows, people! I wanted to buy a hoodie, but I'm in Illinois and there's no shows scheduled near here :(, and I'm not sure when the online merch section is reopening. I want to support theSTART more! I have opened my first and second radio shows with theSTART, remember to listen on Tuesday nights, from 10-11 pm Central Time, on www.buedge.com! Now if I only had a hoodie! Click the URL to see a pic of me and Aimee at the Fireside in Chicago!
Kelle <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago/Peoria, IL USA -

Just something I'm sure you all know, but should be stated by us fans to other fans, buy merch when you see them on this tour. They need the money to help with the europe tour, as well as the tour they're on right now. At the show in Fresno there was a donation cup for donations and I think if you get into a show on gueslist, put your 10$ you saved by getting in, into that donation cup. Just my two cents. Thats what James, Emily and I did. And we bought merch the night before even though we already have one of whatever we purchased. We need to support theSTART so that they can tour and get a wider fan base.
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
fresno, ca -

that's it... *puts out the donation jar* help fund theSTART's return to canada.
hypnaughtika
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I've waited too long for this. No nottingham date though.....ah well, can't grumble.
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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Ok, has ANYONE here ever been to a show at the paradox in Seattle??? I need to know like RIGHT NOW if they sell tickets at the door. If we get screwed out of seeing theSTART I'm gonna get homicidal on ticketweb.com's proverbial ass. Grrr...
Bre <echomistress@hotmail.com>
Arlington, WA -

I was excited to see tour dates listed once again. I am disappointed in the lack of Chicago (or vicinity) shows. Please come back. My CD is wearing out!!!
Danielle <Lilacia3@ameritech.net>
Chicago, IL USA -

I'm in rowlett, but it's so small i just tell people i'm in dallas so if they come and you wanna meet up for the show i'd love to. i don't really know that many texas theSTART fans.
megzie
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I'm sorry! I am a dim witted fool! In my excitment in hearing the news of the starts live dates in england I got muddled up and thought i would get to see them on the 11/11/02 but actually its 03/11/02. But I'm still just as excited!!!!!!!!!
Allan Oakes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
Stourbridge, UK -

Someone from TheStart.org sent me an email! They said TheStart might be in dallas next month! Anyone going to come to the concert who might want to meet up somewhere? _Kittie_
_Kittie_ <PuNkPiXiE696@msn.com>
Greenwood, La USA -

YAY!!!!!!! I GET TO SEE theSTART ON THE 11TH OF NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED!!! :oD
Allan OAkes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
Stourbridge, UK -

come to new york on the 11th!!!
ryan <rainnyx4@aol.com>
south nyack, ny unites states -

aimee, human - you guys have got an email.
kenickie
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i just got back from the show at the pound and it was so great!! although i must say it was nothing like a show back in la. those really are the best!! i grabbed a set list and it went a little something like this: the 1234, los angelos, nemesis, gorgeous, death via satellite, hi flyer, her song, glimmer man, and finally shakedown!! to the three girls i met and got to dance with, you guys were awesome!! email me so we can go to another show together!! *carrie*
Carrie <carrieo@sfsu.edu>
san francisco, ca -

yeah, i know there are typos. bah humpbug! who cares. im tired.
mia
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my site on theSTART was just hacked not to long ago, actually today while i was at work. Why do people need to do shit like this? Do they think there is some point in going and taking down someones site and sticking a photo of a naked asian chick with the words "gorgeous-nemesis" plastered on her? If you're out there Mr/Ms.Who-ever-it-was-that-hacked-my-site, I dont see this as a terrible, awful thing. It all happens for a reason right? So whatever. I just felt like venting.
mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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Does anyone know if there'll be more dates on the Strung Out tour? I'll be travelling to Glasgow unless they add a Dublin date.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

You can buy tickets for the Strung Out/theSTART tour in the UK from http://www.wayahead.com/ just type in 'strung out' and search. well done.
Fiona
London, -

Hey Everyone!
so since theSTART are doing some east coast dates with HWM, do they plan on coming back to ny for a show or two? if they are i need to know! my little plan to go to portland was posponed and i dont wanna go when they're playing ny. cos then i'd miss them EVERYSINGLE time they were here this year. and i'd just have to cry for a few months. xoxo
natalie
ny -

OH MY GOD! theSTART ARE FINALLY COMING TO THE UK!!!! YAY!!!!!! btw...hello...
Cruella <poor_pink_flower@hotmail.com>
herts, UK -

I read the tour page but since this state forbids me from driving till the legal age then i was unable to leave Dallas to see them.
megziE
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honey, they were in texas about 3 weeks ago..

does NO ONE read the tour page?
ricki
huntsville, tx -

Aimee- Please please please play a show in dallas or hey even closer, hmm...austin, or new orleans? You are my ultimate idol and I would kill (not literally)to meet you in person! I want to take a picture with you, so hopefully you'll come to dallas or somewhere close soon.. Any idea if you're going to play a show close to here? Please write back.. _Marissa aka:Kittie_
_Kittie_ <PuNkPiXiE696@msn.com>
Greenwood, La US -

The Start Kicks Major Ass!!! My band was fortunate to open up for them in San Antonio and El Paso. If anyone is interested check out my band at www.Lylah.com. Lylah is the name of my band.
Bobby Lucero <Swag71@webtv.net>
El Paso, Tx. United States -

the show was amazing tonight! why is bakersfield so backwards?!?
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

the show is 8 bucks, and it starts at 7pm. you can go to www.jerryspizza.com and get all the driving directions and so forth! see ya there.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

Anyone going to Jerry's Pizza Tonight? I wanna know how much it is.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

okay i got my license but the rents won't let me drive to frisco sooo early, and bart doesn't go near the Pound so i think i maybe screwed from starty goodness!
Cruz <bobaboy@concentric.net>
San Jose, CA -

umm i am trying to go to the show on the 16th but i am a loser with no license and i am looking for a ride, ASAP i live in san jose near valleyfair so if anyone could help i would appreciate it, i will chip in for gas as long as a ride is confirmed, argh i saw em once at warped tour and missed em several times due to my gf's highschool dances. but now i have plenty of time just no way of gettin there. so someone who lives in the southbay maybe you can help me out
Cruz <bobaboy@concentric.net>
San Jose, CA United States of America -

september 11 and no new incidents. thank god. i pray that you are all safe and that i am not speaking too soon. hugs to all xxx
liesey
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Hey everyone! Tonight was my first show. It will be every Tuesday night from 10-11pm Central Time. You can listen on www.buedge.com. I opened with "Shakedown!" tonight. I think I'm going to play at least one Start song every show. Know any good local bands by you, or have a band? Email me! I want to feature bands from anywhere who are good, and have mp3s or cds out. I would also love to know about theSTART tribute compilation, and if I could play those mp3's on my show. See ya!
Kelle <kelry99@aol.com>
Peoria, IL USA -

eeeep. its sept 11th again. and i'm keeping my fingers crossed, as they've issued a "code orange".
anyways just wanted to let anyone know (who's interested) that two days prior to theSTART show in portland, New End Original is playing the same venue. they're also playing Seattle 2 days before theSTART (graceland tho).
natalie
ny, ny -

i cant believe the start is playing with coheed. they are yet another one of my favorites & local. i cant wait.
nicole <xdolliexrotx@hotmail.com>
ny -

Yippee! My fanlisting for theSTART is finally online HERE (previously my fansite)! So, go and join now, dammit! (You don't need to have a site to join, so no excuses! :-p)
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

i should be attending the portland show as well as the seattle one as long as everything goes as planned. 8>)
*jeris* <nerdykid01@hotmail.com>
seattle, wa -

sorry about my english i hear all of your songs and you guys fuckin rock i realy like your music im from mexico and its kinda hard get your records but i got it congratulations to all of you (jamie snot is still alive) thanx please answer my comment
dj chalupa <cat_scratcho@hotmail.com>
chihuahua, chih mexico -

is anyone here going to the show at the pound on the 16th???
carrie
san francisco, ca -

anyone of youguys gonna be at the show in PORTLANd on the 19th? cos i just might be :o) going cross country to see the coolest band around.
natalie
ny -

I am a dumbass that can't get names right. Just clearing things up as if it wasn't already seemingly appearent.
megziE
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I will be a DJ on a radio show now! Isn't college the greatest? I will be featuring local bands from all areas and nationally known bands who don't get promoted in the mainstream (like our friends, theSTART!). You can listen online at www.buedge.com , I will be on Tuesday nights from 11 pm - midnight (Central time). I don't know when my first show is, but I will let you all know. Also, I need some local bands' music to play. Is anyone interested? Email me! And speaking of local bands, The Blank Theory is one of the greatest bands in chicago!
Kelle <kelry99@aol.com>
I'm Now in PEORIA, IL USA -

I love u stef....hey I'm going to see garbage & the distilers in october hope to see you there....Hope the start comes back to ny soon. I give them 2 \m/ \m/ up.
billy <mxoraven>
ny -

for your viewing pleasure http://mia.digaponymusic.com/whisky083102.html
mia
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ahh so i haven't posted in a while; i just moved into my new place in philly and i haven't got internet or phone there yet (i'm dying i tell you)... just checking in and damn it theSTART had better hang onto that hot water music tour because it so happens to hit the northeast over my columbus day weekend and i could so hit up 2343243 of the shows and damn it i want a roadtrip.
stefanie
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actually, "light and magic" comes out this month. but i read somehere...dont remmber where(maybe outburn or AP)that there first ever US tour is at the beginning of next year. i cant fucking wait!!! lords jesus, maybe Soviet or Adult will open that tour.
richard <XXdeathsdoorXX@aol.com>
whittier, CA -

hey if the band have any plans of releasing "her song" as a single then can one of the band contact me cuz i've just had an amazing idea for a video for it, sorry the song inspired me. my email address is allanoakes@hotmail.com
Allan Oakes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
UK -

I'd imagine that Ladytron would be touring in the fall, considering that their record comes out pretty soon.
Chris <emposer@hotmail.com>
Fresno, CA USA -

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!! I HAVE JUST FALLEN IN LOVE WITH "HER SONG" ITS THE BEST SONG I HAVE EVER HEARD!!!ITS SO BEAUTIFUL.IT NEARLY BROUGHT ME TO TEARS!!!!!Sorry just got a bit excited. Thank you aimee,scott,jamie and jeff for writing such fucking beautiful and amazing music!!!i can't wait to actually see you guys live if you ever get to come over to the UK.
Allan Oakes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
Kingswinford, UK -

Oh hell yesss!!! :D I heard ladytron is doing a tour in the fall...do you know any info about that?
ellen
costa mesa, ca -

Patience is a virtue.
Fiona
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Touring Europe, eh? *sits and stares at tour dates page* Come onnnn!!!
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

ha!! i knew jaimee liked theAEffect, being that they are synth laden and all.i saw them at warped tour...let me just say it was dance fest USA!!! awesome band.would make a great pairing with i am spoonbender and ladytron. right ellen??? ;)
richard <xxdeathsdoorxx@aol.com>
whittier, ca -

theSTART is the monthly feature on my webzine!! CHECK IT OUT!!!! http://manichaze.cjb.net
laurie <laurie@ademanatic.com>
rochester, ny usa -

well i finally got out to a show, the HOB one you guys were rad !! i brought one friend that never seen theSart but has listen to the cd.. she was like "I SEE WHY YOU LOVE THESE GUYS!" whats up with the zip up hoodie?? i need one!! take care everyone. Spiders & Stars
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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YAY.
Fio a
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Your welcome Jaime...I had a blast seeing you guys this summer. Oooh I like the aeffect....neat!
ellen
costa mesa, ca -

Hi, I just wanted to thank everybody that came to see us on our tour and to the people that found us by accident on warped tour and enjoyed it. ya'll rule. Oh yeah, go check out THE AEFFECT. bye
jamie
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its true, i didnt say that.
punchy
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i thought puke said that... not punchy. and yeah, pop/punk bands get pretty annoying. new found glory, blink-182, and so on and so forth. They shouldnt even be considered "pop/punk" Blondie is more pop/punk than any of those bands I just mentioned. blah, anyway enough of my ranting and all of you people check out this site http://www.digaponymusic.com .... it has almost all the info on the bands who are working on theSTART tribute cd and what not.
mia
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I agree punchy. TheSTART is definately not a pop/punk band. They are just plain good music. Now a days people don't understand anything unless it fits into a catagory anyways. Toodles.
megziE
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Just read on theprp.com that theStart is going to tour Europe. Do you know where are the dates pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease???
Lebiche <Lebiche@hotmail.com>
Nancy, France -

"iiiiiii'm stealin' babies so you better get this party started."

could somebody please please explain to me why promoters still continue to call thestart "pop/punk"? doesn't anybody listen to the albums before they book a show? it can be detrimental to the band, too. there are plenty of people who hate pop/punk that would totally love thestart and, without knowing exactly what the music sounds like, they might read that they're a "pop/punk" band and refuse to see them play. i know that's what i'd do. what's wrong with rock? they're a fucking rock band. nobody can say "rock" anymore unless it's "hard" or "classic". that's BULLSHIT!
~pukeanasia~
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:D :D :D Glad you went and had fun!!!
ellen <TracyFlick107@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

oh man!! my girlfriend got the car and we went... it was so brilliant. but saturday was still the best START show ever. they mixed up the set to a little, they opened with "the 1234" and played "nemesis" 3rd. the stage was so short but it was big. it came up to my ankle, like a step. i was the one in front with the blue dodger hat and TheFaint shirt. it was aslo better that noone danced on stage during the last song...its better that way. it was great! Ellen next time ill take u. by then my car will be great and running, and u can always depend on me for a ride. -richard
richard h.(depecheboy101) <XxdeathsdoorXx>
whittier, ca 90606 -

aw richard..i feel ur pain....my friend kelly could've given me a ride to last night's show....im kicking myself now....damn...oh well.
ellen
costa mesa, ca -

hey guys, could anyone please give me a ride tonight to USC and back. my car is shit and my cousin can not give me a ride anymore. i really NEED to go. i will gladly pay for gas money. i am in the city of whittier. that is around downey, pico rivera, montebello, la habra etc. if anyone can please give me a ride AIM me at XxdeathsdoorXx please. thanks u so much. -richard
richard (depecheboy101) <XxdeathsDOORxX@aol.com>
whittier, ca USA -

oops http://www.usc.edu/student-affairs/KSCR/ the KSCR must be capitalized for the link to work.
Maise
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KSCR Presents: The Start with special guests: Stolen Babies Magnet Date: Monday, September 2nd, 2002 Time: 8:00 PM Location: GroundZero Coffeehouse FREE! Head out to Ground Zero and chill with KSCR and the Pop/Punk stylings of The Start - after USC Football defeats Auburn! http://www.usc.edu/student-affairs/kscr/
Maise <Maise@digaponymusic.com>
OC, CA -

jamie miller is the best musician to me
melrose <melrose_ch@hotmail.com>
hong kong -

the USC show is TODAY. Im not sure if the show starts at 7:30 or if that is when doors open. So be there around that time. Its at the Ground Zero Cafe, on the USC campus. And the show is FREEEEE. And I think there are 2 opening bands. http://www-scf.usc.edu/~coffee/ i think thats the webpage.
punchy
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Puhleeze come back to Texas soon! I don't mean to sound like a whining spoiled teenager/opressed junkie/dying virgin but OH MY BOY GEORGE i need something to deliver me from the ::yikes:: harsh world of adolesence. Feeling sorry for me yet? Oh well i already swore to Liza Manelli that i will follow you as much as possible next summer.
megziE
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Thanx Punchy - will do.
liesey
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anyone got info on the usc show? i must be there :)
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, -

theSTART show was AMAZING!! The crowd was very energetic, the band played beautifully. I was with aimee's mom.....she's a cutie! The band was very nice to talk to....I wanna go see them tomorrow, but no ride or ticket....but they are playing a FREE show at usc on monday. I finally got the ep and its so good!
ellen
costa mesa, ca -

You guys wouldn't believe this!!! I went to check out the house my parents bought. I went into one of the bedroom to check out the room space. Then I saw a Circus poster of Amiee in Human WAste Project on the wall. How cool is that! i didn't see the person who lives in the room, but I know her name is Allison or something. She lives in Chino Hills. Do you guys know her?
Emily
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Hello to all. How has everyone been? For those going to the show tonight, grrrr! I have to work...:( Have fun kiddies
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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you should email theSTARTmerch@aol.com about your 1234 ep.
punchy
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Not to whinge but I need some help: I want to order the Death Via Satellite EP however my 1,2,3,4 EP hasnt arrived yet. I have tried emailing to find out if my payment has gotten lost in the mail but to no reply. What address should I be sending my query to? Thanks for any help at all. xxx
liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
Oz -

Uk people - you can order the EP online from the store on this website, most big record stores sell the album on import, try Andy's records as they send things out really fast and are reasonable in terms of price!
Fiona
London, -

How do British fans of the start get hold of the album and the new ep? i've been looking in all my local records stores and no-one has a copy and they don't seemt o be able to order it?
Allan Oakes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
England -

skye, you must not have looked hard enough. click my name and you will find all the lyrics you need and they're the most accurate on the web, I think. Me and Stefanie even asked Aimeee about the glimmer man lyrics so those are probably very right.
punchy
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Does anyone have the lyrics to glimmerman? I've looked all over the internet for the words and can't find them.
Skye <skye@youeatpoopy.com>
Dallas, Tx USA -

I've been here fucker, just browsing. My net time is limited, so I only post if there's a particular reason to.
As for phil, that sounds like an amazing idea. I apologise again for missing you calls last time, but you actually called while I was checking the answer machine, and I could hardly call you back. Unfortunately, we've moved house, and I don't yet know what the new number will be. As soon as I do the terror may commence.
oh, and Erika, did you get the parcel I sent you? mail me.

Thought for the day. With all the Iraq as warmongers i'm hearing in the news, here's a few questions for you. Which nation has the bigger stockpile of arms, has more of a record of involvement in battles, and is the only country to have used a nuclear bomb in attack, the US or Iraq? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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hey all i love the start and i wish they could come and play a show over here in sunny old England, last time I saw Aimee and Scott on a stage was way back in 1997 when they supported Tura Satana.Also I want to send the band a copy of my bands demo cd to listen to is there any kind of address i can send it to?
Allan Oakes <allanoakes@hotmail.com>
Birmingham, England,UK -

dude---malcolm! send me your goddamn 30 digit number again. i never got through harrassing your roommate, Phil. and i need you to send me the number of a cab company around your place so i can call him a cab and then, on its way over, call him and tell him i'm on MY way. and he'd better have my fuckin money. then i'll hang up and the cab will show up, the phone will ring again and when he picks it up and a synthesized human voice says "the taxi has arrived". WHADDAYA THINK!?! it'll rile Phil up reeaal good!
kt
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WHERE'VE YOU BEEN ASSHOLE!?!?!?
kt
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hope everyone is good. For the record, The Passport office in london is so full of mindless bureuacracy (sp?) that it's driving me absolutely mad. I'm in a shitty little net cafe again, and going absolutely mad.

Hope you're all well.
Metal Malcolm
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I liked the show that was in San Antonio at Sunset Station. I was dissapointed because I did not know about it until that morning, my boyfriend heard it on the radio. We were originally going to go to the show in Austin, but we didnt get to borrow his mom's car. So for that matter I was glad yall were able to even come back to San Antonio. The show was pretty small, but it was all in good fun. You guys were good the first time I saw you, and now your even better. The new ep is great, and the show was amazing. I got all but jeff jaeger to sign the new ep, so next time you come back to san antonio, be prepared jeff! Oh, and Amy you have some pretty amazing eyes as well, (you commented on mine, and I was pretty suprised and didnt know what to say, lol. sorry). Keep up the great work! and come back to San Antonio soon!!!
amber <gwendavis13@yahoo.com>
San Antonio, Tx United States -

have you kids heard about theDistillers, No Doubt, and Garbage all in one concert? if you care about those bands, this is amazing.
megziE
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hello
cruella <poor_pink_flower@hotmail.com>
UK -

aw that sucks :(
punchy
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um, hon...they were in austin on saturday. emo's. =/
ricki
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You guys need to come play in Austin! Sara
Sara Madlom <JustADork16@yahoo.com>
Austin, TX US -

well i haven't been on here in 2 years, but hey my computer is crap. just got a new one, ta da. well good show maybe i see you guys soon. love and granola justin
Justus <glitterspider@beer.com>
san antonio, tx usa -

thanks, nat ;)
green knit cap = puke? i thought so...if you read this mr puke, i was the chick in the red and dark blue striped shirt..muhahahah! by the way kt, the word "clusterfuck" was beautiful. did jeff make it to austin or did he get stuck in traffic again? i think this reinforces the notion that bands SHOULD travel together, but that's just me...
ricki
houston/huntsville, tx -

Hot Topic is very evil. i hope, for the benefit of our generation's legacy, that yall, my dear dear Friends DO INDEED recognize this. that hideous place adds to the over-all ambiance of the whole costume-store feel of the American Shopping Mall. there is no, absolutely no fuckin defense here either, no POSSIBLE reason for such an awful, exploitative demographic clusterfuck. if you ever doubt this, if you ever feel like buying that fishnet shirt or those silly zippered 89" pants, i advise you wander over a section or two to the undergarments. Note the thongs and cotton socks with embroidered ANARCHY symbols. When this dawns on you, get the hell out before you have a nosebleed, like i always do. Anyway yeah the show in austin was excellent, with like two and a half times the turnout since last time. the played the outdoors stage and it was hotter and sweatier than the goddamn hanoi hilton in that fuckin place. i assaulted PUKE when i first arrived. Aimee pointed that bastard right out to me, and there he was, with goddamn green knit cap. luckily he answered the "guess who motherfucker" question right, so i let him by without any permanent burn marks on his face. he fared rather well in that regard. At one point I almost set Dan's scalp on fire but he turned around too fast. the band went on and tore shit up. a raver kid, probably older than me but like two heads shorter in one of those funny sideways raver hot-topic baseball caps kept bopping in the temple with his brim. they dedicated a song to newswhore frankenstein's bride greta van sustern's facelift. again it is reinforced, upon watching this band perform, how they kick the shit out of all these shoe-gazing boring-as-fuck emo-core pansy bands that are everywhere right now. anyway so my mom wanted a t-shirt and i bought her one, and i told her about the hospital-food thing aimee and puke were talking about and so now guys she wants to cook yall a meatloaf or something and bring it to you next time yall come back to town.
kt
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Ricki, that comment deserves a pat on the back. bravo.
natalie
ny -

ps. i liked the refrences to SLC punk.
megziE
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hey it was a joke. of course Avril, John, and Kurt aren't punk. It's the ridicuolousness of how punk is defined now-a-days. jeesh.
megziE
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sure avril's punk...the kind of punk you buy from hot topic for $150.
ricki
huntsville =(, tx -

i saw theSTART for the 3rd time last night at Emo's. it was amazing. good work guys and girl. hope to see yall soon. www.solicitingintelligence.com = my band
kevin <si@rn.com>
austin, tx us -

Uh...since when was Avril punk? or Mod for that matter? But I do understand the confusion over Mr.Lennon, I didnt know he was punk. =) A punky Lennon. Oh yeah. Can you imagine? "ANARCHY IN THE UK!"
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
fresno, -

Since when was John Lennon punk? Or Kurt Cobain for that matter!?
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
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Anyone going to the L.A. show this saturday? I can't wait!
Ellen
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"Avril is more punk than Kurt Cobain and John Lennon but put together with safety pins."-my bud Davy. i live in Rowlett which is about 15 minutes away from Dallas. a small texas town blah blah blah-i need not say more. and since i can't drive legally and no one wanted to take a small 2 hour road trip i was screwed. oh well i won't complain. it'll just make it incrediably fucking amazing when i finally get to see them again.
megziE
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anyone that went to the javajazz show knows theSTART can rock out as a three-piece (way to go jamie for being a "swiss army knife"!) the story goes, jeff rode down separate and got stuck in traffic, and didn't get to the venue until around 11:30, so they played without him, rocked nonetheless, with me front and center singing along as usual (i got a mic pointed at me for a HEY! on shakedown...a dream come true) and thanks to the guitar tech person (i never caught the name =/) for the picks, and you bet avril better watch out! later

ricki
houston, tx -

anybody to the san francisco/bay area shows? i just moved here and was wondering if i would see anybody there...
Carrie
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where the hell is jeff.
punchy
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Aimee! you must find a computer and check yr email.
natalie
ny -

i went and asked alice when she was ten stories tall. she looked down at me and said "NO!"
kt
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WHY CANT YOU GO MEG!??!? hell where do you live?
kt
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wow. i'm in highschool again and no recess. on top of that there is absolutely NO WAY i can get to the show in Austin and on top of THAT this is my 2nd time missing out on my favorite band which i have only seen live once and on TOP of that monday is another glorious week of highschool. (One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all.) Someone pleeze fucking shoot me in the back of my skull then bring me back to life shortly before summer starts ok?
megziE
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puke...you are the epitome of sell out. i plan on learning all my selling out tricks from you. but first, i need to learn the secrets of your faaabulous hair care. haha. whats up man. when you get back into town i have a cd you might be interested in...keep it real homie gee funky.
leviathom
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ROFLMAO see you there man
kt
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yes, if the heavens allow it i shall be there this time. i might get hit with a meteor (or space peanut) and die before we reach texas, who knows. and you can mug me all you want but will never find anything of the slightest value on my person. that's what happens when you work for free. but maybe i'll sell out and go corporate too. you'll see me rollin thru town teching for new found glory next month (or, as jamie calls them, "new fat glory").
~lollipuke~
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puke is so there. bug him about his real name, he likes it <3
stefanie
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No don't mug him - just tie him down and cut his hair into a mullet.
Fiona
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so is the illustrious PUKESTER techin' it for the band this time around? if he is, i'm going to mug him. LOL lookout puke...
kt
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oh.
kt
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kt, emos is listed on thisisthestart.com
punchy
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oh...ok...well...i had glanced at the tour section and it was not only gone but replaced with (ugh...) san antonio...BUT IF YOU SAY SO HUMAN!!!! and i'm really sorry, but i never got off the shit. the advice you gave me, all those months ago...and i'm still hooked. stay away from this shit my Friends...OXYMETAZOLINE NASAL SPRAY 5% HYDROCHLORIDE IS WORSE THAT FUCKIN SMACK!!!!!!
kt
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8/24 Austin Emo's (outside stage) right?
human <human@thestart.org>
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HEY WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE AUSTIN SHOW!?!?
kt
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ah, KT - how we have missed you.
Fiona
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The start playes the Nile on the 28th, but at what time?
Drew
AZ -

herald the end of an era, my Friends. my last shift at the video store was yesterday. so concludes the 3-year legendary tenure as clerk at two different videostores in dripping springs, tx, pop. 1033. a move into the big city is imminent and blockbuster video is the target...look out, peeps, cuz KT IS GOING CORPORATE!!!!
kt
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I need a ride to the social in fl tonight to see the show or i can meet someone up there email me aimz
ruby <felixrabbit82@hotmail.com>
sebring, fl usa -

Mia, thanks again. it worked that time! HUMAN!! I MISS YOU!!!!
To anyone in the NY area. EYES ADRIFT are playing at joe's pub on the 19th (tomorrow night). if you don't know who Eyes Adrift are heres a little info. the band consist of: Curt Kirkwood (formally of the MEAT PUPPETS), Krist Novoselic (former NIRVANA bassist!!!)and Bud Gaugh (former SUBLIME drummer). I strongly suggest if you have a chance you should check it out. if you want more info just mail me.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

i really like the new ep. & im making everyone else that breathes around me like it to. tonight @ the dinner table i made my mom learn the chorus to one of the songs, then she told me to go away. i really think its getting to her! keep up the good sound. xo
nicolee <xdolliexrotx@hotmail.com>
ny -

Austin... a mere 195 miles....
human
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which of those cities is the closest to Dallas? I will not miss out seeing them the 2nd time. This is starting to feel like Detroit Rock City except KISS sucks and theSTART are amazing.
megziE
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Just got this update on Texas show dates... looks like Dallas has been changed to San Antonio??? 8/23 Spring, TX Java Jazz 8/24 Austin, TX Emo's 8/25 San Antonio, TX Sunset Station 8/27 El Paso, TX Club 101 all are all ages.... sorry about Dallas... ~
human <human@thestart.org>
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natalie, im sooo sorry i was half asleep/awake when that message was posted this is the actual address http://bandname.com/
mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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thanks Mia! the page says "this site is planned for developement" so i guess its not up yet or they're changing stuff.
natalie
ny -

i think the drummer of the color red is Dan's (theSTART's tour managers) brother. im pretty sure, i can't remember.
punchy
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yu can go to bandnames.com for more info on band names that arent, and are taken. Mia
mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
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hey i got the Color Red's new album "clear" and its great but the guitar player Billy is wearing a coool t-shirt it says "theSTART" isn't that rad!! representing on his cd.. just a note. Spiders&Stars
angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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same here. i, too, seek info on the Dallas date.
megziE
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Anyone know where the show in Dallas is going to be at? It still says TBA and it is less than 10 days away!! Help!!!
Cory
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listen to punchy! go see thestart in el paso (and everywhere else too) lylah is great!!! :)
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
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hey guys check out teh site punchy and i did for theSTART... email us or leave us some kind of feedback pleeeease <3
stefanie
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hey. this is a bit of a weird question, but maybe someone can give me a hand. is there some kind of copyright site where you can see what band names are already taken? if anyone has a link or knows stuff, i'd appreciate it muchness.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

for enyone in EL PASO, the site says the date is on the 26th with the venue TBA. I went to the club 101 site, and apparently they are playing on the 27th at Club 101 in El Paso, TX with this band Lylah, its all ages and 6 bucks. and i guess it starts at 8? www.club101.com is the website.
punchy
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New Tour Dates, I also found out that Noise Ratchet will be opening for theSTART the dates are listed below. FRI 9/13 Jerry's Pizza Bakersfield, CA $7 6PM w/Noise Ratchet SAT 9/14 Elementz Fresno, CA $9 6PM w/Noise Ratchet, Plain White T's MON 9/16 The Pound San Francisco, CA $8 7PM w/Noise Ratchet TUES 9/17 Capitol Garage Sacramento, CA $6 7PM w/Noise Ratchet THURS 9/19 The Meow Meow Portland, OR $8 7PM w/Noise Ratchet FRI 9/20 Paradox Theater Seattle, WA $8 8PM w/Noise Ratchet, Q and not You SAT 9/21 6th & Main Boise, ID $8 7PM w/Noise Ratchet Check out my site for more up to date tour info.
Mia Valentine <mia@digaponymusic.com>
fresno, ca 93726 -

The start needs to come play in mobile or pensacola
Caroline Snuggs <badtz_maru02@hotmail.com>
Mobile , Al USA -

I might be crazy, but I had ANOTHER dream about theSTART. This makes 3! Has anyone else dreamt about them? Maybe I am just a really big, scary fangirl... Hmm, do you think it would be cool if there was a comic book of theSTART? I have comics on other bands like the Rolling Stones and the Cure. It might be cool to see Aimee and the boys in cartoon-form!
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL -

Ohh my god, I am going crazy, i happened to look at the tour dates and saw they are supposed to be in concert tonight in georgia. but it doesn't say where its at! I went to ticketmaster and it said nothing, I really wanna go too... eek this sucks!
Scarling.Star <xxjackoffgenxx@aol.com>
Atlanta, GA USA -

if you say so....
megziE
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ahahha B T Parnell<33 i love it. thanks for the compliments Kelly :) :) :)
punchy
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The Gap owns Old Navy, Bananna Republic, but not Hot Topic. Hot Topic is its own "Incorporated." Just goes to show how a little research goes a long way... Nice sites, punchy and stefanie!
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

B T Parnell... how lovely to hear from you! Enjoy Florida!! Oh, and use those British words wisely...
Jankey Fee...anky
London, UK -

1528 hendrick ave. jacksonville, fl 1014-7 tickets are 7 bucks and jack rabbits has a 300 person capacity. doors are at 8pm. buy merch, please. :) also, if anybody has pictures of jamie playing that yellow samick please send them to me. make sure the subject tells me who you are and why you're sending me attachments so your mail won't get deleted.
~pikey puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Does anyone have ANY info on the show in Jacksonville? Like, what time does it start, how much does it cost, address of Jack Rabbitts? Please. Help me. PLEEEASE.
XXXBulbasaur420 <Adena_the_Princess@hotmail.com>
Lake Placid, FL USA -

The show at chain reaction is postponed for THE SHOW AT 7. But they are playing at Hogue Barmichaels Aug. 19th. More info www.showat7.cjb.net.
OMAR
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Since the tasteless suits at theGAP figured out they would make even more money if they opened a store that appealed to a "different audience". It's like profiting from yin AND yang. But shhh it's a secret :X.
megziE
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since when does the gap own hot topic?
maggie
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hm so does anyone want to take me on the remaining tour dates for thestart? i think you do.
punchy
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I have been wondering who owned Hot Topic since a band I like was sponsered by them on tour. thanks for posting that info.
anon
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Hot Topic is great but it is also owned by theGAP. so either way we are suckers.
megziE
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Yeah the forum isnt working so i decided to tlak through this little place. :) I hope i have found someone who likes the band out in minnesota...?? Ive been trying to get people to this site and listen to the music to see if they like it... and if they do to request the cd in our lovely hot topic store! but i dunno if anyone has visited yet? rock on! Amber rose
Amber Rose <soSOgorgous@hotmail.com>
corcoran, mn usa -

WHos opening for theSTART in AZ?
Andrew
AZ -

jeff buckley. <3
nicolee <xdolliexrotx@hotmail.com>
ny usa -

THIS IS FUNNY. I GUESS YOU ARE TOURING WITH MY BROTHERS BAND. AND I JUST FOUND OUT THAT A FREIND OF MINE WAS IN YOUR VIDEO? BYE
JENNE <cemeteryparty@aol.com>
san diego, ca us of a -

ok i know me and punchy have been posting an awful lot but we're excited and we'll calm down eventually. i did a photo essay to rival punchy's, click on my name for it. also we updated the lyrical archive a bit; second verse of nemesis should be more or less 100% accurate thanks to ms echo's divine intervention. http://www.spastica.net/thestart.txt is as always the address for that. i'm sorry we're such weirdos guys :P
stefanie
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anyone here going to the show in orlando on monday?
greg <gh30three@netscape.net>
winter park, fl usa -

Hello people! just wanted to say i love this band and i love you all!! rock out!.... oh and yeah to the band.. come back to minneapolis!! rock on!
amber rose <soSOgorgous@hotmail.com>
outside minneapolis, mn usa -

EK! i thought it came out JULY 30. I was misinformed. thanks for clearning things up stephanie.
megziE
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hehe thanks :) i think jeff really loves us!
punchy
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punchy, i just read everything and looked at all of your pictures and i must say i am soooooo jealous! sounds like a lot of fun and the site is awesome by the way! the band definately is the nicest band and puts on the best show! is jeff really scared of you guys :0)
carrie
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for the love of ENO click my name to read all about me and stefanie's roadtrip for theSTART, I promise its very exciting and there are lots of pictures. ANd I worked non stop tonight so if you don't look ill cry.
punchy <punchelette@aol.com>
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Hey! The show in Hartford was so wonderful(!) and I hope to see you again next time you come around. You sounded so beautiful, and the music keeps getting better. Thank you!!!
Kim <pomona@snet.net>
CT -

the ep won't be out in stores until the 24th but you can order it from most record stores.
stefanie
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oh yea you can email me i forgot.
megziE <DirtyLionZymurzy@aol.com>
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Oh man i swear i have been to about 4 stores and still can't find the new EP. Would anyone by any chane have any suggestions for the dallas tx area? I mean somewhere i haven't looked yet?
megziE
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i just got home from jersey. im so sad :( i dont get to see theSTART anymore. dan is my boyfriend <3
punchy
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the show at cbgbs was great. i had alot of fun. as for maxwell's. fhdsjhfdshfdshjf! i remember leaving my house at 6pm & arriving there at 10pm. not only are new jersey drivers horrible.. there were NO bloody SIGNS for hoboken. it made me so upset, that i couldnt see you kids playing last night. but i know & have seen you rock n roll. so im set! im sure you were wonderful. good luck on the rest of the tour! xo
nicolee <xdolliexrotx@hotmail.com>
ny usa -

ok, we just got back from the maxwells show... decent turnout, horrible venue, and something is seriously wrong with jucifer's live set. but theSTART took it in stride and played a fantastic set which we very much enjoyed, and if it were not for dan's mad navigating skillz we'd probably still be lost somewhere. hello, the cross-bronx expressway can suck it. umm yeah good show and we'll have all our big cheesy photos up all over the place quite shortly. we also attempted to get some lyrical corrections on some stuff so we'll get that up soon. but right now... ohh it is bedtime. hey dan :P
stefanie and punchy
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Lyrics for all the songs can be found at the link below (click my name)... they're all pretty accurate, at least I think so...
Bre <echoobsession@yahoo.com>
Arlington, WA -

Hey guys! Just wanted to give you the heads up and say that -The Show at 7- is playing August 16th at The Chain Reaction in Anahiem. Starts at 8pm and tickets are $10. www.showat7.cjb.net P.S. Can't wait for the upcoming START shows!
OMAR
Ca -

WOW!
I am soooo amazingly jealous!!!

Sounds like everyone is having the awesomest time!!!! :)
Amy
Sydney , Oz -

Can someone help me please??? What are the words to the song Los Angelenos??? I must know. Thanks all.
Stephie
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This is just a question for Jamie. I heard you were playing drums again, in Enemy is that true?
Jesse Morris <capmo823@msn.com>
Huntington Beach, CA US -

hey we just got back from Hartford, it was great. we rule. we're going to Hoboken tommarow because we're so awesome. the band played reallly great and they even played big shot <3 oh yah we were working the merch table pretty much the whole time, so HELLO. you probbaly bought stuff from us if you were there. YAY theSTART rules. HI DAN <3
punchy and stefanie
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Well here it goes... I just got back from Hartford, CT. I have been waiting ever since hearing Human Waste Project to see you guys. It was everything I could have possibly wanted, and so much more. Not only did you guys play beautifully, but you became real to me. Aimee and Jamie, you guys are magic on stage and off. In times when so much seems dull and lifeless... you are shining stars, keep up the wonderful work, thank you for everything. *Fan For Life*
ben dupont <deadpool2882@hotmail.com>
providence , ri usa -

you know, come to think of it i have a demo cd from The Color Red in my cabinet upstairs, still shrinkwrapped...maybe i'll give it a listen. TBA for tourdates does usually mean they don't have a venue yet, but most likely they have found one but they haven't updated the site yet. they do it for thisisthestart.com before here
ricki
houston, tx -

hey just to let you guys know ... The Color Red just released their major release "CLEAR" today!! they are from Riverside ca. The guitar player Billy is wearing a Start t- shirt!! Its on he inside sleave of the cd.. They are a Rad band you should pick it up!! just a lil note.. Spiders&Stars
Angela C <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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OHMIGOD!!!! theSTART TONIGHT!!!!!! AHHH I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED!!!!!! The problem is I cant figure out what to wear!!!! lol
Christina <SilverRemy@aol.com>
Cromwell, CT USA -

on the tour dates doesn't "TBA" mean they don't have a venue yet? i dunno help me out i'm lost.
megziE
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theSTART in 17 days....AHHH!!!
ricki
houston, tx -

ahhh! this is the first time i've ever missed a show. i've been to everyone theSTART have played around here. I got stuck at a train station during that insane storm with my friend (with his 2 bags of luggage and a guitar) for 3 hours. i couldn't make it to the long island show, but i'm gonna try for Jersey. I talked to Bill. He said Aimee was lookin for me :o) i can't believe i missed them.
natalie
ny -

You know what would kick ass? If theSTART played in Freeport at a club called Phenomenon. It's about the size of the Fireside, in a town much smaller. That would be amazing. I would do some independent promo for that show to hopefully blow it up.
Brian <yogaclassforcats@hotmail.com>
Lena, IL -

I LOVE THE START AND I HATE GEORGE BUSH...ROCK ON!
Charlotte <a_girl_named_charlie@hotmail.com>
Elkhart Lake, WI USA -

theSTART is peoria is definitely in the works, possibly before or in the spring of 2003. My friend and I are also working on a brand new 'zine covering the music scene in north and central illinois, and we are trying to get theSTART to play the metro, chicago. wheee! check out this awesome aimee site i found last night.
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

Hey everyboby, well, the 31st is not to far off and I was hoping to meet some more people who go to all the L.A. shows. So, I will be at the merc both all night if anyone wants to come say hi. Aimee, if you talk to Greg Graffin at anytime try and gets me an autograph, if you can. I miss you. Timmy
Timmy <Timpossible20>
Buena Park, CA -

I saw the start at CBGB's and they rocked a really good show.
Heather <keebler1228@msn.com>
Jackson, NJ USA -

your welcome. always a pleasure to compliment. hehe.
megziE
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awww thank you megzie :)
punchy
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Hey everyone, I'm excited to see The Start on the 31st, I just wanted to tell you guys to get there for the opening band as well, Twig, who has actually recently changed their name to Ther Nervous Return, because I've seen them twice and hung out with them and they are fucking awsome! Thanks! Becky
Becky <blink31572@aol.com>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

great pictures. i specially like the one with jaimee winkin and the one with eno stickin his tounge out and the one with aimee's arms spread out...damn i like them all.
megziE
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Hey Kelly, that would be awesome if theSTART came to Peoria.
Brian <yogaclassforcats@hotmail.com>
Lena, IL -

Since a lot of you are lucky enough to be seeing theSTART on this tour, would anyone be interested in writing a gig review for badgirlsgotohell.org? Full credit will be given, of course! *flutters eyelashes* Mail me @ bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org if you're interested!
xo
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
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click my name for 59 pictures from CBGBS last night, and a half assed review. GREAT FUCKING SHOW. THANKS SO MUCH GUYS <3
PUNCHY <punchelette@aol.com>
CT -

oh by the way, we did ask aimee about the plea for peace tour and while she did say that would be great and she would love to do it, as far as she knows they're not on it. so boo.
stefanie
nyc, -

punchy lies not. where were you natalie? bill was worried... much thanks to all of theSTART but particularly aimee for making last night so unfuckingbelievable. she let us siiiing <3 ahh that was the best. a fair amount of people turned up and the set was wonderful and this band are so goddamn sweet and put on such a great show. i loved it. a few of our pictures are up, click my name. tuesday and wednesday are going to rule.
stefanie
nyc, -

cbgbs was soooooo goood. we love aimeee <3 she let us sing! <33333 i have lots of pictures, ill put them up later I just got home, i took the train from NYC to Connecticut, so im sweaty and dirty but soo happy <33 im seeing them in CT on tuesday, i so cannot wait. there is no excuse to not ever see this band, they put on the best show EVER.
punchy
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i heard that band sucked!
shelby
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Didn't they used to be called twig? ...or something?
phillipe
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Has anyone heard of the Nervous return?
jason
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Thanks to Amy for getting a really good new band on the Aug. 31 show at the Whisky in Hollywood, Ca. The band is called "the Nervous return" and you can check them out at http://thenervousreturn.com Thanks Amy!
jason <twig666@earthlink.net>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

La la la, lala la la, la la la, lala la la.
Name the Tune! Win a prize!

Yup, i'm bored. If anyone else feels the same, we've got a new track on MP3.com. Go see.Or don't. I ain't fussed.
Metal Malcolm
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thanks for the tip about getting into 18+ shows. Yea when i dl music or burn cd's it feels so much better when i have the actual cd or record so i know how you feel. I wonder if you found "flying machine" on hard copy or whatever if it would be with "be mine"?
megziE
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Hey Hey... ya know since yall are talkin about the song "Hi Flyer" I started thinkin about the song from the demo "Flying Machine" I was wondering does anyone know where i can actualy get a "hard" copy of that song on cd... i eventualy listened to it so many times on real player i decided to just record the audio and put it to wav file even though the quality is very poor... prollem is i hate having music that I haven't paid for, it's like one of those little things that no matter how justified i am in it. perhaps they recorded it under a different title, or something of that sort... The biggest reason i want to find it is because it's like my fav song by the Start hopefuly this wasn't just a track that got forgotten after they started recording the album and their ep's... does anyone know? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~�� *Trish litter
Trish LaDish Litter <trash_punkqueen@yahoo.com>
Las Vegas, NV -

crazy...merrick, ny. that's where debbie gibson was from. ha
anon
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Joey, the band members will definatly help you out with that. actually it was Dan who helped my sister out with that problem last year.
so does anyone know what/where that other jersey show was susposed to be?
i'll see you guys at the show tonight :o)
natalie
ny -

also in reference to 18+ shows, get someone in the band to say they're your dad. i swear, it works. i've done it.
stefanie
nyc, -

pictures, lyrics, what else would make for an awesome theSTART site? we're not trying to steal your thunder, mia, i promise, but we need to do something instead of just making an incredibly huge text file. help us out here guys, what would go on a really awesome site? ignore the staples like news, tour dates, everybody has that. hm.
stefanie
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That has happened to me in the past. Both theSTART and the venue's site said all ages but when i got there it was 18 and up with ID...who knows.
megziE
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Is anyone going to the show in Merrick on Sunday because I saw a flyer for the show at my local music store and it said 18+over with ID on the website it says nothing about 18+ over and where is the Union Square Lounge?
Joey
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Is anyone going to the show in Merrick on Sunday because I saw a flyer for the show at my local music store and it said 18=over with ID on the website it says nothing about 18= over and where is the Union Square Lounge?
Joey
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i think we should. i made a layout. im gonna put whatever pictures i take up there with the lyrics. i dont know if i want anything else, but i probably dooo.
punchy
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as always we have all the lyrics to the ep, not 100% accurate but likely very close. click my name to check it out. punchy and i should really make a page i think.
stefanie
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NOOOO!!!! That song is called "Los Angelos". And it says "I'll clean up later." Hi Flyer is the one that says "put he gun away".
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
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I think the new song that you are thinking of is "hi flyer" on the new EP. But I don't think Aimee sings "I need." I think it is "It's just a little mess / it's not the end of the world / I'll clear / up later." This is the song Aimee dedicated to Kurt Cobain, at the Fireside in Chicago last night. I could not find anywhere with lyrics for the EP. Maybe they will find their way onto the lyrics page soon. And to you all at the Fireside, you guys rock, I love dancing with you all! Thanks for a great time! Nice to talk with you Aimee, Jeff, Jamie, Bryan, Dan, and Tim.
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

yey! thanks human for confirming. I have always wanted to hear that song, cuz I loved the lyrics when I read them.
anon
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there was this sweet song you guys played at the warped tour in cleveland. i be leave it was a new song and in the chorus of it the words are something like "i need" and scott only plays on the toms. i really wanna know what that song's called. thanks!
george <assowipo@yahoo.com>
hudson, oh usa -

Oh, sorry, I forgot to mention that I bought the EP on tour, just last saturday, july 27 at warped tour in tinley park, IL.
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

I think that might be the case, because the tracks on my cd don't match what the cover art say. It's the weirdest thing. At first I thought I was outta my mind, but if someone else has the EP, let me know if it happens on yours too. And onto something completely different, I am working on getting the Start in Peoria, IL. Anyone interested? AND, I have just gotten an offer to collaborate for an online e-zine about bands, music, and the scene in North and Central Illinois. Anyone interested in that? Email me!
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

when did you buy it? i think the copies that are on tour are messed up somehow? like the record company printed them wrong? thats what i heard, im not sure though.
punchy
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The tracklist for the EP: 1.Death by Satellite 2. Bigshot 3. hi flyer 4. the 1234 5. los angelenos 6. trinity it is different than what is on the cover, because on the art, LA is number 3 and hi flyer is number 4 and so on. but at least on my cd it plays as i listed above. does anyone else have the EP? i wonder if mine is defective or they are all like that... maybe i ought to ask the band!
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

i knew those trinity lyrics were up somewhere! i saw them on a site a while ago, and i was like "ive never heard this song before" but I couldn't find the picture of the lyrics anymore :( oh well
punchy
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hey anon.. you're gooood..yes it is..(trinity that is) ~h
human <human@thestart.org>
LA, CA USA -

on the new EP: "Trinity", is that the song (and my memory is fuzzy so I'm probably wrong) of which the lyrics were up on this (when the band was still Hero)? and thanks for posting the tracklisting. plan to order it from my local store asap.
anon
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Chris Cornell has been recording with RATM.... my other half works at the studio and they were there a couple weeks ago.
Anne
Denver, -

natalie, ask stef shes in control, im just along for the ride :)
punchy
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Hey Guys, It's timmy. Just wanted to let you know i miss you and can't wait for you to get back. Hope the crowds are giving you much love and i hope you are having a grand time. Fiona, i miss you and i'm sad i didn't get to see you but i'm sure you are having a blast. Love you all
Timmy <Timpossible20>
Buena Park, CA -

Stefanie + Punchy! what time are you guys gonna get there? is billy going with you, or are you meeting up with him? that way i can find you guys. ooh yeah its almost here and its gonna be great!
As far as the rage/Chris Cornell thing. Chris walked out, and they decided not to release it. but i read somewhere (theprp.com i believe) that he got back in and it is susposed to be released sometime this year. i've heard the unmastered/unmixed copy of the cd. its good. i didn't know what to expect cos it was kind of a strange combination, but its definatly cool.
has any one heard the new silverchair cd? i really dig it so far. sounds like daniel is finally happy.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

is anyone going to the Baltimore show?? i've been trying to find ticket information and not having much luck... maybe it's just a cover charge kinda thing. anyway, i'm excited to finally see theSTART again. it's been waaaaay too long!
TAP <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, pa usa -

Tracklisting for the DBS EP is like this: - 1. Death By Satellite 2. Big Shot 3. Los Angelos 4. The 1234 5. Hi Flyer 6. Trinity
Fiona
London, UK -

KT - yep I read that too but then I think chris cornell walked out or something - I swear I read that somewhere! probs good to go onto ubl.com and figure out what is going on.
Raepepper
UK -

Are they really playing tonight at Fireside Bowl? This according to http://www.thedogandeverything.com/ The show starts at 6 with the dog going on at 8:30. Does that mean the start is playing before or after the Dog?
pbaker
chicago, -

anyone know the full tracklisting for the new ep?
anon
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oh my goodness, the day after tommarow is almost here! theSTART <333 its my first theSTART show. its gonna rock so hard. natalie, I have no idea when the show starts, we're gonna be there very early because we're devoted fans hehe.
punchy
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stefanie! small world, isn't it. I'll definatly see you guys down there. Any one know what time the show at cb's happening? or at least what time they're going on and how much its gonna be? so 2 jerzee shows...the 7th at maxwells and where is the one on the 9th? its not on the page. is it by any chance at THE SAINT?
natalie
ny -

wuddn't there supposed to be a release from the ever mysterious, now defunct former-members-of-rage-with-chris-cornell project this summer? i coulda SWORN i read that shit somehwere, months ago.
kt
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Rage Against Rage Against the MAchine
kt
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Sorry Anne! Think we are on about totally different things!! Fairtrade not Free Trade - sorry hun! didn't mean to rant!! Will find some websites about Fairtrade very soon.
Raepepper
UK -

PS for those living in the UK Starbucks doesn't do Freetrade over here.
Raepepper
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But Anne - went to Africa a couple of years back and actually went to a Fairtrade plantation. And yes we did pay them a surprise visit. My swahili-speaking friend and I interviewed the workers in a club that night and they said they were much better off compared to when they were selling for Kenco et al - so perhaps Fairtrade isn't that bad - but then again I've not been to all the countries which have fairtrade growers so I'm still buying them until I see for myself a situation I think is crappy. Thanks for the info tho!!
Raepepper
uk -

i was at the warped tour in tinley park on july 27th... theStart was really the only band i wanted to see and when i did, i practically screamed i was so excited. i still can't believe it... YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
victoria <lala_tori@hotmail.com>
burlington, ia usa -

Raepepper.........starbucks sells freetrade coffee. free trade goods are a big scam for the most part. read up on NAFTA.
Anne
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thereee is a street team, but its not really funded by anyone so its basically promote with your own stuff because you love the band <33 legions is the name of the team, I think you can join on the news page. if you love the band just make flyers promoting whatever they're dooing, be creative!! the band doesn't have record label support, so they dont have people with the money to do a regular street team, but that doesn't mean you can't promote!!
punchy
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MSI are so awesome that would be great. I wasn't trying to fight i was simply replying to her message. I'm so glad there is finally a new dallas date.
megziE
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yup. theSTART ruled it on the 25th. the best. thanks guys! best birthday ever! i think that 1]there needs to be a street team. and i should join. 2]theSTART should tour with deadsy. yes. that would be an excellent tour. or with mindless self indulgence. that would be good as well. that is all. have a great day! lindsay
lindsay <onepiecekill@hotmail.com>
columbus, IN USA -

im so bored, this board neeeds to be more active. geeze my hair smells so nice.
punchy
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OR MAYBE I WILL JUST SEE THEM FOUR TIMES. OKAY!
stefanie
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woo, more merch for mee. stef, there are more dates. 2 in NJ on the 7th and 9th. come online. for you people who only go to the speakout the bran new dates are on thisisthestart.com, but i think human sent out a mailing list e-mail with a bunch of new dates too. YAY./
punchy
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natalie, punchy and i will see you there.. bill emailed me and i guess we're all meeting up to be wild and crazy kids. i guess there's no philly show? ehhh ok, we'll just see them twice instead of three times. all the more money to spend on merch instead of gas.
stefanie
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theSTART rules! I've met them twice and I LOVE THEM! Does anyone know if there's a street team I can join and get the word out? Email me if you have info!
Kelly <kelry99@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

why don't we just murder some corporate honchos? eh? we can find addresses. yeah, i said MURDER.
kt
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PS Buy fairtrade products (ie coffee, tea etc)! Regardless of popular belief they ARE NOT more expensive than stuff like Nescafe/Kenco, and the producers get a decent living wage! God am I on a rant today or what!!
Raepepper <redhot>
UK -

Actually KT the official boycott of Taco Bell was started in the last couple of weeks specifically due to the farmer situation, RATM joining it is a good thing cos it heightens the profile - it doesn't matter why people join so long as they do! Just rem peeps that still up there on the boycott list is Shell, Esso, McDonalds, Nestles and Starbucks. Defo loads more but it is good to start somewhere!!
Raepepper
UK -

punchy rules...yup, and i hope you have fun at theSTART concerts you sexy bitch you.
antoinette <silverchairrox2000@hotmail.com>
wichita, ks usa -

hi, bye (nowt to say sorry)
jenjen
manchester, uk -

i declared war on taco bell a long time ago. and it doesn't have anything to do with the farmers. how come more people don't do shit without waiting until RATM says it's the thing to do?
kt
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Hey! I know many of you probs LLLOOOOVVVVEEE Taco Bell, but please try and join the boycott of this chain. Perhaps then they will start changing their policies!! Check out www.ratm.com for more info: "Farmworkers in Florida are facing corporate power head on. They've called for a boycott of Taco Bell because the multi-billion dollar corporation refuses to meet with workers over the sweatshop conditions in the fields where Taco Bell buys its tomatoes." Taken from www.ratm.com
Raepepper <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
UK, -

Punchy! i'll be at cbgb's.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

poor DT... i'll miss ya, buddy. i'll make sure i tell everyone you said 'hi'. and i can pick up any merch you may want me to. :) i know, it's not the same... just, i dunno, become "deathly ill" on the 12th and you're all set. lol
TAP (also a Homicide Lady) <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -

Someone take me to Philly!!! GRRRRr. I can't go to Baltimore so I was excited about Saturday, but no! I'm not allowed to drive the turnpike yet and to my parents drinking wine with attorneys comes before making sure I see the Start for the ONLY TIME THIS YEAR!!! -DT :(
DT -- a Homicide's Lady <riccigal@aol.com>
Harrisburg, PA USA -

alright, does anyone know where the hell the Philly show is happening? And who all is going to CBGBS?
punchy
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hey, i dont think she was bragging! lets not fighttt :)
punchy
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Nope i still think 3.99 is a good price and your extensive bragging didn't sway my opinion. but thanks for trying hun. and whose to say that's their real autographs? EBAY?...hehe
megziE
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PICS NOT WORKING??? What the fook...? Ok, thanks, I'll go fix those right now... I feel like an ass...
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Arlington, WA -

Never posted on here but post all the time on the other board. Anyway, you think 3.99 was good for a copy of Shakedown? I got an autographed never before played one plus 6 stickers for $5 on eBAY the other day. It sits next to my autographed 1234 ep and my old copy of shakedown plays on. Doesn't eBAY rock? all kinds of interesting stuff.
spiderwebs <spiderwebs@eagleslair.net>
OR USA -

oh... haha. i feel stupid now. oh well... i'm glad i'm not the only one none getting some of those pics to open right. i was beginning to think it was just my computer, which is always possible. yeah, thanks for clearin that picture thing up for me guys... :)
TAP <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, pa USA -

well gee... that site is really nice. great layout and all, but it'd be nicer if a good chunk of the pic links weren't broken. i'm really beginning to loathe http://www.spils.com/
moni
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that picture is with Ross. not mark. but i can see how someone would think that.
MessY JessY
queens, ny -

it's ross. that picture has been floating around for years. in clearer versions.
Anne
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nah, i'm pretty sure that's mark. it looks like back in the day when he had the dark brown hair... i remember Aimee telling me how she's known Sugar Ray since they were the Shrinky Dinx cuz they used to play togther in LA..... yes. must buy hoodie to save me from the evil air conditioner vent that is located next to my computer... and someone said there's new tshirts right?? kick ass. i cant wait!
TAP <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, pa USA -

I actually thought it was Ross Robinson, the name of the pic is "rossjonaim.jpg"... but now that I look at it.... hmmm??? Thanks for the kind words! Yes, and you must buy a hoodie... or buy 5! Hehehe...
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Arlington,, WA -

thanks Bre! i'll definitely be picking one up... and i love your website by the way! very cool. i personally like that pic you have of Aimee with Jonathan Davis and Mark McGrath when he was real young. haha. made me laugh... yeah. i'm bored and tired. i'm gona go let Butch Walker sing me to sleep...
TAP <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, pa USA -

Hi! I heard the Aimee and one of the guys have a side project going, does anyone know the name of the group? or where I can find out more?
Nene <Nene_5272@yahoo.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

so does anyone know if the start is playin the plea for peace tour? b/c aimee mentioned bein on it, but they're not listed on the plea for peace site.
*jeris* <nerdykid01@hotmail.com>
bellevue, wa -

ah. the site stilll doesnt have the new tour dates up yet, and a few of the dates are happening reaaaal soon. i think everyone needs to tell everyone about the dates, it would be a real shame if the band toured the east coast and no one knew about it!
punchy
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yea there was only one left.
megziE
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3.99? thats insane you should have bought 30 copies.
punchy
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me and my friend were at a discount cd store today and i am getting her into theSTART and she got the SHAKEDOWN cd for only 3.99. God the best things in life are *almost* free.
megziE
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holy shit my friends! set your VCR's now cause JIM TRAFICANT has thirty whole minutes of national television coverage later on this evening as he appears one last time before his congressional peers who will most likely have voted to expell him for his 10 or so federal felony counts of corruption. he asked for 8 hours of time, in order to explain, most likely among MANY other things, how he will run again this year from prison, and how he will win. how playboy bunnies will conjugally visit him every night. how he won't care that any of this is "on record". he has also threatened to wear a denim outfit and do the michael jackson moonwalk on the floor of the hearing. i don't know about yall, but this makes my fuckin day, and i'm rooting for this guy all the way down.
kt
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hi-flyer about kurt c? i wouldn't doubt it. the lyrics, oh the lyrics.
punchy
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the start is one of my fave bands. i have the good fortune of being able to share a stage with them in september. i am stoked as fuck.
Evan <evan@straightedgeonline.org>
sacramento, ca usa -

she didn't dedicate it to him exactly...she said it was about him.
*jeris* <nerdykid00@hotmail.com>
bellevue, wa -

wow. i have not been here in sooooooooooooooooo damn long. let me ask you guys a question. That song HIGH FLYER. who/what is that about. i heard Aimee dedicated it to Kurt Cobain at warped in WA. i was just wondering if anyone has a clue.
MessY JessY
QueenS, NY -

$25, and well worth it.
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
hell, WA -

how much are hoodies?? gotta make sure i save enough money....
TAPicide <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, pa USA -

Eeeeeeee!!! Echo Obsession is the OFFICIAL Aimee site now! Damn I love that woman, she's so sweet! Pics from Warped at the Gorge shall be up by Friday!!! I GOT A HOODIE!!!!!!!!! Yeah, go to the site (linky below) and read muh review and shit. Heeeeeeee..... and yes, Dan said theSTART would be back in WA in September, and I can't wait!!!!
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Mooootown, WA -

Aimee told my friends that theSTART will be coming back to WA (probably the Graceland again) in September.
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood, WA -

fuck me, i really dont come on here as often as i should, ive just spent half an hour reading everything ive missed, the aimee/tairrie thing is still going on, when will that end??
hope wveryone is well and good, and for all the birthdays i missed "happy birthday" to those whose birthdays that have passed. i will make more of an effort to be here more often but its difficult when i never get a chance to get on the laptop....

for now my puddings....see you soon xXxXxXx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Grah. I hate having no Internet. My dad's iMac is useless, my mum's is busted, and i'm sat in the local library with everyone looking over my shoulder. Hope everyone is good.
Metal Malcolm
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Aimee sang on a Father Roach song? Now there's something I didn't know!
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

theprp also forgot the philly show, perhaps they didnt mention those because they are lacking venue info right now? i think those shows are on, they better be
punchy
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p.s. Punchy! thePRP didnt list august 7th. (the show in poughkeepsie). and seeing as tho you got them from Dan, i'm sure your dates are the ones to look at. anyway, the august 7th show. is that at the Chance? anyone have any ideas who they're playing with at any of these shows?
natalie
nyc -

they've played atleast one or two shows at the graceland in seattle before...but hopefully they'll be comin back soon on that poison the well/international noise conspiracy tour that i heard aimee mention? just thinkin about it makes me wanna dance. 8>)
*jeris* <nerdykid00@hotmail.com>
bellevue, wa -

aimee is definatly on Dead cell. i completely harassed papa roach when they played warped tour a few years ago. and they insisted that she was screaming "dead cell" in the chorus.
natalie
ny -

I missed theSTART at the Gorge but 2 of my bandmates got to hang out with Aimee again, lucky bastards. OK, I downloaded the song Dead Cell, but hear Aimee nowhere on it, are you sure that's the right track?
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
stanwood, wa -

You guys kick ass. I had only heard you name before, but never heard you until I caught part of your show in WA at Warped Tour. It was awesome and I had lots of fun. You should so play a show at Graceland (downtown Seattle). It would sell out and I really want to see you guys live again. Catch ya later. :) ~Miranda
Miranda <xtremechik_2005@hotmail.com>
Seattle, WA USA -

there are some more dates up at theprp.com for those interested.
Anne
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the new dates suck!!!!!!!!!!! ALL I ask is for them to come to upstate ny!!!! at least once!!!!!! bah! anyway, if any of you have Livejournals, i have a community for theSTART, its been up for quite a while, but yeah. http://www.livejournal.com/~thestart go join, make me happy!
laurie <laurie@ademanatic.com>
rochester, ny usa -

they are also playing in Houston (well...Spring) on August 23rd with Embodyment, FedxByxRavens, and Glass Intrepid at Java Jazz coffee house! wristband is ten bucks which lets you go in and out freely and you get free drinks all night (smoothies and soda machine, no alcohol!) be there or be square =)
ricki <shinedownunshy@hotmail.com>
houston, tx -

i got these from Dan, i hope he doesn't mind me posting them, but I dont think he would. He also said there are a bunch more that should be getting posted very soon. Ill be at the New York, Philly, and Hartford shows with theSTEFANIE. July 31 Fireside Bowl - Chicago, IL Aug 1 Alvins Detroit, MI Aug 2 CBGB L NY, NY Aug 3 Philly Aug 4 Union Square Lounge J Merrick, NY Aug 5 Middle East Boston, MA Aug 6 Webster Theater Hartford, CT Aug 7 Poughkeepsie
punchy <punchelette@aol.com>
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nevermind...answered my own question. I just went on the House of Blues website and they are playing there September 1st at 7:00 and tickets are on sale July 24th for $10-$11.
Carrie
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So I was just reading on another message board that theSTART will not only be playing with lunarclick on August 31st at The Whisky but will also be playing at the House of Blues in Anaheim on September 1st...is this all true? I know the Whiskey is happening, but is the House of Blues for sure? I must have the worst luck...I move up to San Francisco the 23rd of August :'( Hopefully I can come home for the weekend...
Carrie
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I love to listen to theStart in my car on the way home from school. It is a 2.5 hour drive and when the cd ends, i just START it all over again! You guys need to come to Michigan again!
nikole <Nthespian@aol.com>
Warren, mi usa -

i believe the papa roach song was dead cell. also, thanks for the visit to washington today. certainly made it a memorable warped tour for me. hope your "experiment" works out, that is workin for your fans rather than the man. the new ep sounds great. come again soon! 8>)
*jeris* <nerdykid00@hotmail.com>
bellevue, wa us -

Does anyone know what papa roach song aimee did background vocals on? I'm dying to know......
chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
hicksville, wa -

im gonnna rock everyones socks off in new york. you're all gonna love me.
punchy
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from what i understand thestart are definitely playing cbgb's on august 2nd. on monday i will have more information. however, it would be really cool if you guys would post at least the schedule you hvae right now, cos you're not leaving a whole lot of time for fans to actually like figure out that the shows are happening and whatnot. in any event, to those of us who are rockin the big apple, yeah see you guys there :P me and punchy are there with bells on.
stefanie
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that was actually susposed to say "aimee sings on My Mercy and she does the most beautiful background vocals on Burgundy. both songs are off CC's 2nd album, Chamber Music (as someone stated below)
x
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i love the start...i think their music is fucking awesome...and it makes me feel good. and in my opinion thats all you really need, music you can feel. its definitely a breath of fresh air. and you shows are fun. scott was just too cool. love you.
leigha
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hey... whoa. i guess i learned my lesson, dont ever forget to sign online and keep up with this board... lotsa catchin up to do now he he he... well I looked over that whole long thing with the band stuff, whatever... not really my kind of argument so im glad i didn't get in the middle of it... someone asked if they cold call me kitty, that's actualy my drag mama's name "Kitty Litter" (drag mom: person who first helps a drag queen to learn the various things ya gotta know to be a drag queen) so well the name's taken ha ha ha... This Town is a great song, it was what origionaly introduced me to HWP (i am also a huge korn fan from a long way back) i must have listened to e-lux repetitively for a very long time... eventualy i was lookin them up online and was ready to cry when i found the band broke up... but found the start and forgot all my sadness... right about that time i was first starting to perform in drag... The very first song i ever performed on stage (lipsync which unfortunatly it's more accepted then live singing in drag but i plan to change all of that ha ha ha) was This Town by KoRn and HWP... it was a huge hit and really gave me the kind of start in drag that i needed... anyway so basicly i owe my start in drag to Amiee and HWP, as well as KoRn... it happened to be the exact establishment of style i needed and now im workin on changin drag and wakein' the other queens up with some music that's actualy fun and loud... but it's not like yall wanted ta know my story... well if your still reading then i guess too bad you just got my story ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 'with happy thoughts ~~~~~~~~~~~~~��
Trish LaDish Litter <trash_punkqueen@yahoo.com>
Las Vegas, NV -

yes. aimee sings on
x
USA -

aimee sang on coal chamber's second cd, "chamber music" awesome cd by the way...the song is titled "my mercy"!!!
-erika
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yes theSTART is playing at the whiskey on August 31st. They're going to be playing with Lunarclick*. It's going to be an awesome show. I'm making a road trip specially for it. I'm quite excited.
jennifer
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aw man it never really ends, does it?
stefanie
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I have a question for someone here on this board. I was on the My Ruin message board and there is something about Aimee singing on the new Coal Chamber record is that true? I am not a fan of Coal Chamber but I will make it a point to find someone who has the record so I can hear it if it's true. Also it said that The Start are playing at the Whisky on August 31 the day after My Ruin is that true? I think they should just play together and save everyone the money of wanting to go to both shows.Wow what a great weekend it will be anyway!
emilie
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time* i hate correcting myself.
MegziE
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I drew a cartoon picture of Aimee today to pass the tima in driver's ed. It didn't turn out as well as my whitestripes one though.
MegziE
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Wow kt, perfect description of the ole chap!
MegziE
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whats a winamp or skin anyways?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, CA USA -

malcolm, you going to distortion tomorrow?

click my name for a new piece of artwork.
kenickie
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with raisins.
kt
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he was lumpy.
kt
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i baked him this morning.
kt
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Do you KNOW the muffin man? Cause alot of people don't.
MegziE
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HUMAN!!! i need confirmation on the shows in ny/nj. are they really doing cbgb's 8/02? and are they playing theSAiNT in NJ again? i need to take off of work!
anyone pick up the VEX RED cd? i'm in love with it.
natalie
ny -

Go Chevy-poo! Eeeeee... 2 days... Warped Tour goodness... theSTART hoodie... GARG! I must have my start fix! For people who don't know, my Echo site is up and running. It's kinda naked since it's new, but that will change soon. Go see at the link below, and don't be shy, sign the guestbook and the message board! We don't bite much! So GOOOOOOOO!!!!!! *hugs to everyone*
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Craphole, WA -

Happy Birthday LauRA!
human
LaLaLa, -

Hahaha. Ok, I'd like to say, that yes, Jessicka did cut her forehead and bleed on my boyfriend, and YES, I licked it off, but that was entirely by my choice. I love her, and what I do is for no one to judge me. If it had been Aimee, I'd have done the same thing. Luckily though, Aimee doesnt hurt her beautiful self.
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood, WA USA -

the START rocked the Warped Tour in S.F.!!! I think the song order on the new cd is incorrect though... anyway come back to Sacto soon!!!
Kris <projectstealife@hotmail.com>
Sacramento, CA United States -

bronagh, according to aimee the new EP is out 7/30...
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, ca -

I have a question! What's this I hear about the new EP being out and when can I get my grubby mitts on it?
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

and a half my punchalette <3
stefanie
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HOLY COW. THESTART IN CT. IM SO THERE. STEFAANIEEEE. ROAD TRIP.
PUNCHY
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HAPPY BIRTHDAYYYY LAURAAAAAAAA!!!

wOOOOOOOOOOOOt!!!!!!!!!
Amy
Oz -

if you consentrate on screaming and yelling wouldn't that defeat the purpose of going to a live show to HEAR the band's music? just a thought.
MegziE
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DUDE. I just heard theSTART are coming to CT in August. I'm brining all of my freinds and we will be up front and center screaming and yelling I promise!!!!
christina <SilverRemy@aol.com>
Cromwell, ct USA -

happy birthday laura! sorry it's probably late...
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Hmm, when can we buy more merchandise online? My t-shirt is getting shabby. Lalalaa.
Bronagh
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I was just wondering will the new start shirt's be appearing in the store at some stage? it's my birthday today and everyone is invited to the party, there will be cake!!!
lauRa <circles@ispdr.net.au>
Oz -

You don't need permission to do a cover. The songwriters automatically get mechanical royalties. go here: http://www.nmpa.org/hfa/hfafaq.html
Chris <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
Fresno, CA USA -

Man, This Town - what a blast from the past!!! Have to dig out the Echo/Davies version cos it is very cool indeed! In fact, it can be said to live up the the original! One top song indeed!
Raepepper <redhotraepepper@hotmail.com>
UK -

he's from the goddamn ROMULAN EMPIRE!!!!
kt
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Scarling were cool but yes that drummer is odd. He is scary in a bad way not good. Very Soft Cellish and feminine. The gutarist seemed to have a strange relationship with the singer(Jessicka the GUY guitarist that is) I did not like how she treated him at all. Veru abusive and not cool even if it was part of the show. Hey lets break our equipment and beat on our bandmembers. That is very Marilyn Manson and Nirvana. Its been done by both.The music was great though. I think The Start should consider OTHER bands next time. the blood thing is a little contrived too. Aimee please do not ever cut yourself.
God of Fire
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but puke...what about the fucking ROMULAN!?!?
kt
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satan, "This Town" was actually a Go-Go's song, so that's who you'll need to contact for the rights to redo it.
ricki
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mel rocks.
~sir puke~
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^_^ I really don't listen to these bands much. But Theres one song rumored to be by Kittie and Korn which is actually by Human Waste Project and John Davis. It's called This Town. I think its a kick ass song, and one day I hope to get a hold of both of them to get the copy rights to it so I can remake it for my band. I think the song rules. ^_^ Please check out my site btw, so you can get info about the band that I'm in. Just like to say to everyone whos aspiring and in a band, that you dont have to play whats popular to get big, and those that do are sell outs! Play what you feel, or its not worth playing.
SaTaN <firegoddessx0@hotmail.com>
CA USA (WE RULE!) -

melanie is really cool. aimee introduced me to her at the austin show. one of their members, the shorter one (guitar?)...he was sitting at the bar really bumming me out with his blackcladness so i yelled at him to cheer up. jessicka was really nice. the last guy though...the Romulan...i didn't talk to him. you guys know who i'm talking about...now he's fucking scary.
kt
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i know i enjoy a good clean safe blood lickin'
MegziE
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its not a rumor, melanie WAS a part of my ruin.
stacey
cleveland, oh -

I love THE START!!! I finally got a chance to see you play live and you rocked. The venue sucked but whatever.Most venues in my town do suck but it was worth every penny spent. I was really dissapointed with Scarling. Okay I thought Jack Off Jill were an okay band not that great or anything. I have read a couple online interviews with Jessicka the singer and she said that Scarling were nothing like JOJ and that there was a big difference. What difference she cuts herself up (and ewww she rubbed her blood all over some boy and then some girl licked it off of him how sickening and dangerous is that?)and then started verbally abusing her bandmembers and herself. She always gets compared to girls in rock like Aimee and Tarrie B of the band My Ruin that everyone seems to be mentioning on this board but I don't see it at all. I saw My Ruin when they played with Kittie and Flaw and they rocked just like THE START. Tarrie dances and has fun and laughs on stage like Aimee and screams and gets really nuts and scares everyone like Jessicka but Tarrie isn't putting on a show like a play or something. It just looks more real as oppossed to Scarling's act.I just don't buy it. Please tour with a better band next time that people want to see. I heard that Melanie from Scarling used to be in My Ruin but I never got a chance to ask her. I can't imagine it because she is so mellow on stage. I think that's just a rumor. My perfect show would be THE START and My Ruin with Snake River Conspiracy and Kidney Thieves. Aimee you were wonderful and so was your handsome man Jaime. *hugs*
Hi Flyer Girrl
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um hi. haven't been here in a week and now there's some theSTART/My Ruin saga. better catch up on it so i can have a valued opinion as well.
MegziE
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Hey, does anyone here have experience setting up an inexpensive home recording studio?
Kroze
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Wow!!!I haven't visited the messageboard for two days and I missed so much discussion. Two years ago when I moved here from Chicago.. I was extremely glad to find out that I live cloase to a town where all different types of genre of music's band all play at this big city. I don't think people who live in LA realize how lucky they are to have all these talented bands who play here mutiple times a year. Personally...we are extremely spoiled. I mean it's hard to get up there everynight and perform in front of people. Plus... different types of people likes differenpt types of music. I don't think we should really care what others listen to because I know nobody really cares. As a person who never "heard" of My Ruin's music and just hear the band's name all the time... I am sure they are great. But theStart's music is something that I would listen to and I am not even a "punk" person. So there is nothing really to fight about, because if you don't like a type of music then don't listen to it or support it. I mean remember when Shakedown came out and we all went out and bought multiple copies of them just to support our favor band? Well...if you like certain band then go out there and tell your friends about it. It's alway better to talk good about something instead of the bad. Let's all stop being spoiled, and just appreciate the music. That's what really matters.
Emily
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I love My Ruin and The Start i havent missed eitherones shows in almost 2 years Ive been a fan of both since Manhole & Human Waist Project The BEST FUCKIN show ive been to so far has got to be in early 97 at the Roxy line up Human Waist Project SNOUT (rest in peice) Tura Satana i will never forget that night i remember it like it was yesterday In all they both have there own style u either like it r u dont i love there voices they r both awsome
miss taz <misstaz2121@earthlink.net>
Mira Loma, ca usa -

Well on Monday the 8th of July I saw the Start for the 1st time. I loved you guys! It was awesome. Scarling was great also, I didnt have a clue who either of the bands were because my friend Jon took my sister and I to see them. I just came to tag along. I really wish there were more people and more dancing though. It would of been better I think. Well your great. I dont know what kind of music The Start is, so if anyone knows let me know. Thanks and Later. Dawn P.S. Please no junk mail, thank you
Dawn <dawntodust@yahoo.com>
Laguna Niguel, Ca United States -

hey, cara, do you know what an opinion is? it really doesn't matter if you think that it's fair or not. that's all i'm gonna say...
~pukeling~
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Hi Aimee,I have been a fan for a while now but never posted because I don't like getting into dumb arguements with people but I have to post something so I hope you don't mind. I think you are a truly gifted singer with the voice of an angel. I have been to many Start shows but always just do my own thing. I am not totally shy but not really agressive either. I went to Chain Reaction and The Troubadour to see you recently and both shows were so great!!!!All this talk on the board about My Ruin really makes me sad. I know you and Tairrie B the singer were at one time very good friends and even toured together in Europe. I thinks it's a shame that it has become The Start vs My Ruin because both bands are incredible. As a real fan of all types of music I can appreciate everything you sing about and everything Tairrie B sings about. You both have something interesting to say but you just do it in slightly different ways. While you have the angelic voice she is more demonic sounding. It's a little funny how opposite yet alike you both are(i'm not trying to put down Aimee by comparing her here so anyone who thinks that just get a grip). I am just saying what I think. At the Chain Reaction show I got into an arguement with a girl who was talking shit about My Ruin to my friend as if it made her cool to hate them I finally said something after she said "if you like The Start you can't possibly like My Ruin" and that no real Start fan would ever be seen at a My Ruin show. That is such crap. I go to see both bands and i'll bet there are a lot of other people who come to this board that don't always post who are My Ruin fans too just like there are Start fans on the My Ruin board. Not everyone feels the need to talk shit all the time. I think what you posted about Tairrie was very cool and nice. My question is this are the two of you still good pals? I only ask this because there are so many people who go around pitting you against eachother so often. I guess it would just be nice to know what the deal is. I'm not trying to be nosey or in your personal business I just know that I for one am curious. Thanks Aimee, you are a real person and I respect you for that. I love The Start and wish you luck on The Warped Tour..tear it up!!
Angelique
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If anyone wants to see pictures from the troubadour show just copy and paste the link =) hope you enjoy. http://www.geocities.com/ts070602/
Mia <mia@digaponymusic.com>
ca -

i really don't think that will ever happen. for the past two years i've posted on this board now, that old argument has flared up at least once a month, every month. usually by some yahoo who shows up and posts something everyone jumps all over. it was fun for a while but i'm pretty exhausted. usually said yahoo never comes back. so it goes, as one crotchety old bastard would say.
kt
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Jesus, can we please forget the theSTART vs My Ruin/Aimee vs Tarrie debate...
anon
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"It's not WHAT you know it's WHO you know?" I love The Start and I love My Ruin but that is NOT fair! Tairre B is not one of those people at all. My Ruin shows are not chalk full of rockstars from various other bands they are filled with fans and friends of My Ruin from what I can tell Puke. I also love the band Scarling but I do think it's namedropping of them to include references to Marilyn Manson and Chris Vrenna and Roman Dirge (Lenore cartoonist guy)in every things they talk about and also the girls from Drain STH and Nadja of Coal Chamber. I have been to Start shows and seen Orgy members there and even read interviews with Aimee where she drops names. Most of the time I read members of My Ruin propping other people not saying oh we're friends with him or her to be cool. I have the most respect for Aimee and Tairre but you come off like you have so much hatred for My Ruin how come? Was Tarrie mean with you at one time or did something happen do you know her? As for Manhole well, I never saw the band ut I have the record and she had and still has some intelligent and thought provoking lyrics. I think she was a minority in her field of music and really still is. Bands like Kittie and Otep and Spike 1000 have all been influenced by her as a vocalist whther they would admit it or not just like she has been influenced by people before her. I always thought it was cool that she addressed issues that most people didn't want to hear about. Aimee did the same thing in HWP. This board is like the I hate My Ruin club and that sucks because they are a good band and Tairre B has worked really hard as far as I can see...just like Aimee has. I love Tori Amos as an artist too. She is another fine example of a strong woman along with so many others. Have you even heard the last My Ruin record or seen them live? I do agree that the cover of Tainted Love was not my favorite but hey she did it before Marilyn Manson. You should check out the Nick Cave cover it is beautiful and soft very unlike Tairre to have done.She also did a song about Lynn Strait from the band Snot which s a fucking tear jerker and better than any of the songs on the Strait Up tribute record..especially that Fred Durst mess. Maybe you just need to give her a chance?
Cara
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she says maynard james keenan makes the best cookies she's ever had.
kt
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supposedly they were seeing eachother once but courtney love fucked it all up. "malicious meddling" is how it was referred to. they'd make the greatest couple in music history, though. they'd blow lennon and ono out of the water. it can happen. tom cruise and nicole kidman were married with two kids and i still say that him and penelope make a better couple. it's showbiz, baby. they should at least do an album together. c'mon, they keep talking about eachother in their songs, it's meant to be! besides, they'd have some damn sexy musically blessed children.
~i'll hang on puke~
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Don't forger; Tori sings about doughnuts too ('cause you'll never gain weight from a doughnut hole)
Kroze
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Tori sings about Cornflakes... or rather Cornflake girls. And Trent sings about being taught how to kiss. :) Gotta love both of them. They'd make a cute couple if Tori wasnt married and had a beautiful little girl. I am soooo bored.
Mia
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i love the start :)
Jessica <zzthesourgirlzz@aol.com>
pasadena, ca usa -

there was a time when i liked the band known as manhole. if i'm any judge on talent i'd say tairrie has some. i was never really sure what to think of her whole "woman in a male-dominated industry" crusade, it always seemed to me like she was trying to play the minority card. i also think that she's a very good example of the old saying "it's not what you know, it's who you know" because she's quite the name dropper. i tried listening to my ruin but none of the songs did anything for me in the slightest and their soft cell cover almost made me do my namesake. of course all of this is just my measly opinion and if anybody wants to think that my comments about tairrie are coming from some kind of bandwagon then think again. there was a quote from tairrie posted on this board that i read and did not hear in any context and based on that quote came my following post. from her answer to the ice cream question i came to reason that she believes that songs dealing with inanimate objects and food and the like are normally sung by "punk rock nu wave pop" bands. i found it interesting that all three of those genres have been used to describe thestart. so, since she made a generalization like that, i decided to make one of my own in regards to the genre that her band belongs to and the kind of subject matter discussed in their songs. get it? you don't need to explain the painful/beautiful stuff to me, i'm the world's largest nine inch nails fan - second only to tori amos on occasion - and neither of them write songs about pancakes. well, maybe tori, but she's really talking about something else i think.
~red hot chilli puke~
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Hey, I read in one of the local rags that some of theSTART's influences are U2 and the Police, two of my favs. Actually, I run a fansite for the world-renown, All-Girl U2 cover band EXIT. They've been mentioned in PLAYBOY magazine, featured on the front page of U2's official website, and their guitar player even played with U2 live on stage at Staples Center. More than just a cover band, these girls write and perform their own songs along with U2 covers. Their large and loyal fanbase has come to love EXIT more for their originality and passionate performances than for just playing U2 songs. That's why I made the fansite! There are tons of amazing pics, fan reviews, and MP3s of EXIT at http://www.u2lafans.com Sorry I just found out about theStart right after they played the Troubador. Hope to catch them next time. --Andi http://www.u2lafans.com
Andi <andisono27@aol.com>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

i just got back from the chain reaction show and they kicked ass, as always. although the venue sucked and couldn't get the mikes or speakers to work very well, they still made the best of it and made it an awesome night! thanks again guys!!!!
carrie
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DAMN RIGHT!
stefanie
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stefanie is fucking SWELL!!! oh wait I know another person who is swell.. GIRLYBROW!
mia
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i don't even really see why the two have to be compared. just because one likes theSTART, it does not imply liking my ruin, or scarling, or even human waste project. it seems a tad silly that all these bands come as a package when they are all so different, and whatever reasons whatever band has for allegedly disliking another, that's their problem. tairrie's swell, aimee's swell, liz, you're swell. everybody's swell. there's no reason for the fans to rally against another band or talk shit about someone else when the fact is that the music should speak for itself and the fans are there to support that. until celebrity deathmatch between tairrie b and aimee echo, i really don't see the point in pursuing this whole deal.
stefanie
nyc, -

Just for the record I waould like to say that Tairrie was not being nasty towards Aimee or The Start. She didn't say we are leaving in a mean way at all. Her band seemed a little annoyed at being there. I think that Tairrie does support Aimee because I have read nice things she has said about her in the past on the Ruin board and in interviews. I was really out of line I suppose in going up to her like I did and I feel like an asshole now. I don't like how people on the Ruin board jump on the I hate Aimee bandwagon because of this or that and here it's the same for Tairrie. It's all so stupid really Both women are equally talented in different ways.I don't think it's fair to say ALL Tairrie writes about is being hurt and in pain and so on because she is in a metal band and that's all she has to offer. Aimee writes about being in love a lot does that mean that is all she has to offer. They each write how they feel in honest ways and that's what I love. Aimee's lyrics are beautiful and many people can and can't relate just like Tairries. Just because a song is painful does not mean it is not beautiful too. I have all of Tairries allbums 5 total and they are written by someone who doesn't care about making a hit song she just says what she needs to say and yeah I do think people test her a lot. In the press and in person. I did in a way. I think she is exactly what Aimee described her as and if Aimee actually knows or knew her then maybe she has somewhat of an idea. I think Aimee is an amazing woman too who writes from her heart. I think that some people on this board should open up thier hearts and heads a little bit more. I plan on going to the My Ruin board and posting also. I don't think that My Ruin and The Start would go perfect together on a show but it sure wouldn't suck either.I apologize for starting this mess and will learn to keep myself in check in the future. I just don't want this to look like I made Tairrie out to be all bitchy about The Start cause she wasn't at all. Aimee, thank you for responding. I really am a nice person and I feel bad about the whole thing.
Liz
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He said "are you angels?"
No, We are just Men.
ROCK!!!

:o)
Metal Malcolm
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puke...you always make me laugh to nearly the point of losing the soda i just poured in my mouth....and for that i thank you!

on a slightly irritated note, it is a pain in the ass to hand wash, hand stretch, and hang dry a tee shirt that is one size too small. but i paid ten bucks for it, so its not going to sit in the damn closet!
ricki
the constant state of confusion -

tairrie is right. i've heard sooooooooo many punk rock nu wave pop bands that write songs about ice cream it's starting to drive me mad. i have this friend in a band and he told me that they wrote a song about rainbow sherbert and i was like, "hey, dude, that has been done to death by way better punk new wave pop bands than yours!" plus i had 'sunday, hot fudge sunday' by u2 stuck in my head all day yesterday so i turned on the radio (something i don't often do) hoping that something better might be on. unfortunately they were playing weezer's 'keep neapolitan' and i had a new ice cream song in there. so then i said "fuck this, will no one just leave ice cream alone?!" i put on mtv and there were the white stripes playing 'i fell in love with a scoop of black cherry' and i nearly lost it and bought a waffle cone right there on the spot. thank the stars above that tairrie is more original than that. she writes songs in a metal band about being hurt and pissed off, subject matter from a genre that nobody has thought twice about touching.
~gadpukes~
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it's my new personal belief that we should quit giving so much goddamn credit to people who say what they think. EVERYONE should be doing it anyway. THAT is the new evolutionary STANDARD, my friends. "Ooooh, he's/she's so cool because they SAY what they THINK!"...well...give them a COOKIE then. i guess i just hold direct verbal communication on the same level as eating, breathing, or taking a piss. i couldn't even to TRY to half-ass any of those even if for some reason i would ever want to.
kt
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LIZ I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ASKED HER THAT!!! I AM LAUGHING SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW I'M CRYING!!! Liz, i am going to hunt you down and KISS you for doing that, my darling darling!
kt
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For the record, and I don't want a huge thread following this, I have never posted on the My Ruin message board. I have NEVER said anything negative, derrogatory about Tairrie and/or her band My Ruin. I, in fact, have only wished HER/them well in person and right here on this board. I have never seen My Ruin live but I hear they are very impressive which I don't doubt because Tairrie is (as I have always stated) an incredible woman. And for the record let me also add that she is one of the most courageous and charismatic people I have met, not to mention smart as a whip. So to you, the soulless, who choose to fuck with others because you have nothing in your life-I say FIND a new hobby. I hear yoga works wonders.THE ONE AND ONLY ECHO.
echo
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I went to the show on Saturday Night and The Start were wonderful. I didn't much care for Scarling or the other bands. I do have a funny short story. I saw the singer of My Ruin Tairrie B and her band there. I went up to her after Scarling and asked her if she could ever write a song about ice cream or pancakes(I was a wee bit drunk I guess) and she said "sure but I don't wanna be punk rock nu wave pop...so I won't" Then she laughed and gave me a hug and told me to go enjoy the show. It was like she knew I was fucking with her and it freaked me out. I asked her if she came to see The Start and she said"no we came to see Scarling and now we are leaving" then she took a picture of me. Not with me, of me. She wasn't mean at all when she said it but her band looked really insistant on leaving like they didn't want to be there at all.I am a fan of My Ruin no matter what anyone writes on this board and I will be a fan of The Start no matter what they write on the My Ruin board.That was really the first time I had courage to walk up to Tairrie. My friend has met her a few times and said that she is always nice. I was in a silly mood I guess. I think both Aimee and Tairrie are great vocalists in different styles. They have both worked hard and payed the dues most people haven't and they both deserve a break. I am glad Tairrie wasn't horrible. Maybe she was a little bit smart ass but that's what I like about her too. She isn't afraid to say what she thinks. The show was fun as hell just like when I saw My Ruin and Tape. I love the Troubadour because it feels so homey there and personal. After the show I tried to stay and say hi to the band but my friends wanted to leave. Until next time..Shakedown!
Liz
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woah... they're doing cbgb's again? when did this news come about? details pleeeeeeeeeease
natalie
ny -

does *anyone* else think that scarling sucks? i LOVE the start but i cant fucking stand scarling
glamgrl5
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Mom, I asked you to stop coming on here as "ruined girl" your making me look bad. P.S. The tour was great and the Troubador was sold out last night, dumb ho.
jamie
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yes the show at the troubadour was extremely fantastic!!! can't wait to see some of you again at chain reaction..
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca 92626 -

i seem to have missed the email detailing a thestart performance at cbgb's in new york on august 2... anybody heard of this? who's playing with them, etc... i'm so there.
stefanie
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Haha, my friend is called Trish, I call her "The Dish". I thought I was being original...damn. By the way, how GOOD are Tenacious D!? I saw them last night, it was the funniest gig I've ever been to!
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
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What can I say? Such a gorgeous show at the troubadour tonight!!!!!! You can going be this "bring down the house" vibe from our LA heretics!!! I am extremely glad to see all the old/new fans!!! Thank you of course to the one and the only TheStart for the good energy and letting us dance along with the band. Yeah! Thank you Scarling for the beautiful poetic music. They rocked. Tonight was so beautiful, I wanted to cry after the show. I was so happy I didn't miss it!!!! later y'all
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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Heh, that reminds me of something that happened to a guy that does an online comic I read. He drew this, http://www.goats.com/archive/980313.html, and then sold some tshirts from it. Hershey found out and made him stop. Later, he drew this, http://www.goats.com/archive/000828.html, presumably to settle the score.
Kroze
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nope, they aren't licensed. echo even said she hopes they sell out before any one important notices...heheh
ricki
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Hey, I was just curious if anyone knows if the "Start Wars" shirts are licensed from Mr. Lucas? Although it seems like it wouldn't be something he'd really go for, he has been known to be pretty loose with the Star Wars franchise before (*cough*Star Wars Christmas Special*cough*)
Kroze
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ah HA!!! i fuckin KNEW IT! old Elvie must've been taking a piss or something.
kt
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While driving thru Dripping Springs en route to el paso ( which we have lovingly renamed hell paso-I know not very clever but if you'd been there you'd understand.)I looked to my right and there it was... in all its gray cement glory, SHOWSTOPPER VIDEO, yes THE SHOWSTOPPER VIDEO of KT legend."PULL OVER NOW" I screamed from the rear of our ruby red van and we screeched to a halt. Inside I found several strangish folk playing video games in a sidish sort of room and i ran to the counter...Noone to be found running the place... no KT, no noone.... I ran out as fast as I ran in and managed to stick a start sticker. It was I who stuck the sticker.Say that three times fast now...
echo
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Because i often forget to write in my ACTUAL diary and this way is alot easier to document everything. plus it allows me to open up and connect to others whether they are close friends or stangers
MegziE
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a public diary? why don't you just write memoirs?
i knew a drag queen once by the name of mystic balls. no joke. then there's this friend of mine who sometimes talks about being a drag queen some day and calling himself cocoa bunny. so trish litter, eh? can i call you "kitty" for short?

i'm all excited about tomorrow. that place had better be packed. bring your friends. tell your neighbors.
~praline pukecan~
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Hey although i'm not a drag queen i still think i'm pretty interesting so check out my online diary www.freeopendiary.com and in the "jump to diary" box type :Follow_theSTART
MegziE
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well puke actualy I'm a drag queen, and Trashie is a variation of Trish... I have some major involvement in some of the kinky chatrooms and i could not let those who know me find out im me before i know they are them ha ha ha... but my full drag name is actualy Trish LaDish Litter... it's nice ta meet ya though.. i can be harsh and crude at times but to be honest most people who get to know me from online become addicted to my abrasive attitude ha ha ha ha sleep well ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ �� -Trish Litter
trashie <trash_punkqueen@yahoo.com>
Las Vegas, NV -

Why don't I mail you something? Because you never sent me your address you Idiot! (Sorry, i'm suffering from sleep deprivation and my usual witty repartee is suffering.
Metal Malcolm
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I can't wait to attend the Troubadour & Chain Reaction shows...who else is going to those? I would love to meet some of you...email me....
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Hey, I jusy saw you guys last night in AZ. Though it was a small crowd (AZ SUCKS like that) you still came and rocked the house. YOU GUYS KICK ASS!!!!
Andrew Miller
Scottsdale, AZ USA -

goddammit...Dan, Aimee, Jamie, Jeff, Brian...when was this fucking sticker stuck onto the comedy section at the video store?! this was fuckin you guys, right? you stick around long enough to meet old Elvie, the owner? he sure as hell didn't remember seein the likes of you southern-California folk.
kt
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you think malcolm is a bad name? thestart's first tour manager, back when they were still with agm management, had an interesting name. his name was ted keydick, but that's not the interesting part. his middle name is lee. ted lee keydick. teddy leaky dick. i had a manager who's name was richard weiner and everyone would call him dick just to make his name redundant. then there's my 11-year-old cousin, first name summer last name tanner. that's gotta hurt. or think about the guy with the worst name in the world - dick van dyke. nothing against dicks or dykes, i just wouldn't wanna be named that. puke is so much better sounding.
~pukecumber~
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hey asshole, why dont you fucking mail ME something!?!
kt
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Whereas Malcolm Really is my real name. I think my parents wished to punish me at birth or something...

Oh, and Erika, I know i've taken absolutely years, but I should finally be putting a letter in the mail to you tomorrow. Again, i'm sorry for being lame. :o)
Metal Malcolm
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really?! well then you'll probably be spared, but your parents would be tele-visually executed. lol
~te puke~
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but but but punchy's my real name :)
punchy
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saw your show at emo's in austin, good show guys! keep up the good work and best of luck! -c.c
clarke <clarkevolta@netscape.net>
austin, tx usa -

i wanna see those pictures so please email me
MegziE <DirtyLionZymurzy@aol.com>
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heheh always, malcolm. always
~pukage~
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I LOVE The Start! I just went to their Austin show the other day, and I loved it!! Aimee is the sweetest, and the guys seemed really nice, too. It was truly great experience, and a wonderful performance!
Carrie
Austin, TX USA -

Wow, someone's feeling optimistic today.....
Metal Malcolm
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okay, so we've got human, frozert, hypnaughtika, punchy, kidneytheif, the honourable confounding watermellon, puke, and now trashie and kroze? all this individuality in one place is dangerous, people. pretty soon we're all gonna be targeted like american muslims attending their local mosque. just wait until we have a ratings system for music like they do movies so we'll hafta put up with that besides the parental warning (which is totally like warning labels on cigarette packs only for cds instead). the government will start cruising popular bands' message boards looking for young left wing upstarts with funny names so they can be executed in front of a pay-per-view audience. you might raise an eyebrow now, but mark my words. that way i won't need to actually say "i told you so" because you'd have my words marked and you'd know that i already told you so.
today's 'cheerfull thought of the day' has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood...
~puddle of puke~
fucked, up -

don't worry about it Kroze...i did the same thing ;)
and also i live about 20 miles away from the woodlands, in Tomball!
ricki
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i got my pictures back from friday, and they are excellent! if anyone wants to see them, feel free to instant message me on 'embrace youth'
later =)
ricki
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My bad, I thought the comments were like something you would read if you clicked on someone's name; I spend too much time on regular forums. Oh well, enjoy my bastardization of that little poem
Kroze
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They called me heretic and flout But still they refused to leave me out They drew a circle to draw me in So I drew a circle around all of them
Kroze <haxorfied@aol.com>
Woodlands, TX USA -

hey guys. i dont know how many of you are nirvana fans. and how many of you would care, but there is that whole box set issue (go to pitchforkmedia.com - they have the resolved story). i think Courtney is trying to blow up this song "you know you're right" (which by the way is amazing) to the size of teen spirit. anyway i just wanted to post links for anyone who might be interested. This song is unreleased. No no like REALLY unreleased. you cant get the whole thing. Someone put it out in lil snippits. (hole actually covered it when they did unplugged). so if anyone cares here are the links. and if you dont, then just ignore this.
http://onlinerock.com/fans/zigzag//nirvana_ynyr.mp3
http://onlinerock.com/fans/zigzag//cut1.mp3
http://onlinerock.com/fans/zigzag//cut2.mp3
http://onlinerock.com/fans/zigzag//cut3.mp3
natalie
ny -

Do you happen to have the time?... i woulda posted on this message board a long time ago, but the prollem is i am totaly anal about knowin a conversation before i get involved... and like there are no dates, i dont know how long it has been since the last person talked or such... but all the same hello, i would aspire to say more but i made sure to wear my deoderant today. all the same i shall introduce myself... my name is Trashie ** cough ** hello ��-Trashie
Trashie
Vegas, NV -

god, i havent been on here for so long, how is everyone....i started a new job earning �400 a week but i quit today cos the company i was working for was so dodgy, it was a bit weird! so once again im on the dole...lol...bye for now luvvies xxx
jenjen
manchester, uk -

warped tour is going to super duper rock! :)
-erika
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yes beware the rain. two stages at warped tour here got rained out..so finch and glassjaw didn't play, and my brother didn't get to play. he was so bummed =( the "start wars" shirt i got him cheered him up though
ricki
houston, -

Hey. For anyone who ever needs to email me, i've got a new address. The old one still works, but Microsoft being Microsoft, it's so full of junk mail it's bordering on unusable. Feel free to mail me at this one, but beware that if anyone signs me up for any crap I will hunt you down and stick your genitals in a breville toastie maker.

Oh, and our website has had an update. Whaddya think?
Metal Malcolm <mal@headrushmusic.co.uk>
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beware the torrential FUCKING RAINS, man!
kt
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I just saw the Start for the first time on Friday in Houston, and they just blew me away. You could say I'm a metalhead when it comes to my taste in music, but they just won a fan for life. Aimee has one hell of a talent for connecting with the audience and the rest of the guys definitely keep it moving. I don't know how they can dance like that and not screw up what they're playing. I've seen a lot of good bands before but they tore it up like no other. In fact I'm probably driving to Austin tonight to see them again! Keep it up guys.
Hanzi <rivierapar16@hotmail.com>
Houston, TX USA -

I mean Death Via Satellite....don't I feel stupid...LOL
Cory
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yeah i got a ride there. from people i know, calm down. but they wouldn't let me in. i'm too young to hear good music i guess. anyway Dan the maneger was super nice to me and my friends and tried really hard to get us in which i admire him for and he brought out Aimee and i got to chat with her for a while so it all turned out great in my book. Plus they'll be back in a month or so and there is NO WAY IN BLUE HELL i'm missing that just because i happened to be born in 1987. and if i was in there i would have danced with you all.
MegziE
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you guys, well, totally blew me away tonight (saturday the 29th of june). my friend Jordan and I were the only two people in the whole goddamned club that actually danced - what a bunch of sleepy losers in dallas, I say. thanks for coming our way with the new-wave rock party, and thanks to Ms. Echo for giving me a hug so that I'd leave her alone hahaha -spiky haired redhead from Dallas. peace!
Sam Machkovech <sam@redcreamsoda.com>
Dallas, TX USA -

WoW!!!! What a great show....all I can say is wow!!!! Amazing energy, stage antics......even with the technical difficulties cough*mic wire!*cough.....I can't wait to see them again!!!!! Rawk on!!!!! Look out for the Deathray Satellite!!!!
Cory
Fort Worth, -

Or instant message me: DirtyLionZymurzy
MegziE
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PLEASE if you are going to the Dallas show tonite call me 972 463 2153 i NEED a ride. mine fell through i have money, a ride home, but i NEED one there. i would name my first born after you. no joke.
MegziE
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Chill out man...I meant that in a good way....
Cory
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you should look really....... http://union.moonfruit.com don't miss out on the revolution.. www.twinstarrevolution.com
miss.em <marie@twinstarrevolution.com>
London, UK -

last night was....grandiose, but that is even too weak of a word to describe...it ended up being a free show, so that was cool, and i got to meet dan finally (his girlfriend graduated from the same high school as me, how random is that?) and we got to hang around with aimee and the boys most of the night. she is feeling better but she still has the sniffles =/ brian was an excellent drummer, albeit pretty shy, but a fantastic addition to theSTART! way to go brian!
oh and i would like to take a moment to thank Jessicka for the 800th time for getting the gum off my butt...she rules.
ricki
houston, tx -

WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU SAY THAT?!?!?!?
kt
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And i just have to say...for some reason...I expected you to have something to say about my post....if you didn't, you just wouldn't be you....
Cory
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oh...KT....Lighten up....it was a joke....it was meant to be lame...among other things....
Cory
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ew...cory i think you're going to have to leave us now.
kt
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Just one more day and I get to see theSTART!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I just got a tingle..........in my pants....teehee...!
Cory
Fort Worth, TX -

Fuck the G8! When are they going to learn that actual people suffer cos of the way they dish out money and not govs. And while I'm on a rant - BUY FAIRTRADE! Only three companies own 84% of the worlds coffee - that means people in places in East Africa only get pennies for a months wage - and not it is NOT all relative. Buy Fairtrade goods and help such people get a decent wage.
Rae <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
UK -

Im in shock. I was gone all day yesterday and just found out about his death by your post. I have never cried when someone has died, but this is a little different because the who were one of the first few bands I listened to when I was little. No new kids on the block for me, I had the Who and bob dylan, depeche mode, the turtles and pearl jam. If eddie v. died Id cry. Im not this emotional. God I feel stupid for posting this.
Mia
fresno, ca -

i'm still heartbroken over john entwistle. it's bad enough i'll never get to see the who with moon ... but now this. farewell, ox. you're resting peacefully while the rest of us can't seem to sleep. some day we'll all be jammin on a cloud.

"long live rock, be it dead or alive."
~mourning sickness~
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I went to go see Stone Sour last night "cory slipknot person's sideband" then people said that My Ruin played at the Roxy last night. Did anybody know? it was for some award's show. umm...
Emily
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hey guys...so we were back to the aimee-tarrie thing? god when will we grow up and learn to ignor igorant ppl? i hope soon :)
-erika
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i can do a throaty solo rendition of something if yall are interested...LOL
kt
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Ooooo! Mia, I'm interested in the re-doing theSTART songs thing. I have a band, but you'd have to wait a while for the mp3, 'cause we don't go into the studio for another couple months. I'm sure I could talk the others in the band into doing a cover of 'Nemesis' or something :) And again, sorry about the lack of credit for your pics on my Echo site. I'm working on a new layout and stuff right now, so all that should be up soon.
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Arlington, WA -

ah Hotmail decided it would be cool to not let me get more e-mail until i cleaned out my inbox (damnit) so if you e-mailed me Human, you'll have to send it again...damn burden of technology >:o
ricki
houston, tx -

"I plead Alignment to Flakes...in their Enlightened State of Hysteria...and to the Republicans, for which they Scam...One T-shirt, Underwear, Invisible and with Licorice and Jelly for All!"---Calvin
kt
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"I plead Alignment to Flakes...in their Enlightened State of Hysteria...and to the Republicans, for which they Scam...One T-shirt, Underwear, with Licorice and Jelly for All!"---Calvin
kt
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oh sure...bring gloves.
kt
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I was thinking about working on making a theSTART tribute cd. Of course we need bands, and that is where you all come in handy. If any of you have a band and would like to be a part of this, please post here or email me so that I know if anyone is interested. Also, this is not a paid thing. The reason that is, is because I would like to have them on MP3 format on someones site so that we could burn them ourselves. Just for fun. Not sure on how the band would feel about it, but I think it would be interesting to see what styles we'd all bring to theSTARTS music. I am kind of stealing this idea from the garbage board, but that cd sounded pretty much like the way garbage sounds, and I think if we did a cd for theSTART itd sound a bit different. Mia
Mia <blueamphetamine@hotmail.com>
ca -

Yet again I miss more My Ruin fans coming here ranting about stuff they know nothing about. Kt, can I come along on your "VISIT"? ;)
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Brian is the new drummer =P And there is no Y in his name. I asked him myself and pointed at his box that had his name on it. =)
Mia
ca -

there is no brad... only BRYAN.
Anne
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I read from PRP that brad plays the drum now?? when did this happen? I need to keep up with my news.
Emily
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The Denver show last night was awesome! I loved Scarling and The Start. Aimee sounded great eventhough she felt the need to apologize because of her cold. And it was also very cool that she was working the merch booth herself. She was right, corporate rock does suck.
Worm <Worm@cannibalsexparty.com>
Aurora, CO USA -

wow there are some major topics going on here.. i have no coment because there is no way i can read all of it right now.. i was just online and wanted to say that the glasshouse show was great, even if we didn't get to hear "Shakedown" my new favorite live song has to be "Hi Flyer" Aimee rocks!! and Finch the are awesome!!! cant wait to see you guys in LA & Anahiem!! be safe!! *spiders&stars*
Angela C <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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spent the day with aimee and jamie and bryan. aimee is feeling a little better. tomorrow they have a day off so i'm sure that will be good for her body to rest a bit. bryan is a sweetheart and everyone should treat him extra special because i think he's still feeling super shy.

the band got to open up for fishbone tonight. it was a weird mixture of bands. but it was amazing. everyone had an awesome time dancing and whatnot.

i'm tired. time for bed.
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
Denver, -

i'm serious. could you ever imagine such a thing?
kt
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LOL
a fan of both bands
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i'd like to ask tairrie if she could ever write a song about ice cream. she writes really good songs about hating herself and everybody else, so i wonder if she could write a really good song about something like pancakes on a sunday morning.
kt
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the drama that goes down on the my ruin board gets out of hand sometimes. theres always someone posing as someone else (like that whole megan thing). i'm a fan of both also. i just wish people would grow up. aimee, i miss you!! Human you too!
natalie
ny -

I love The gorgeous song. You guys are so cool.
Sonia <Shrtstff317@yahoo.com>
Los Angeles, CA USA -

The Bellingham show fucking kicked my ass! It's monday now, and I'm still sore! All the bands were awesome... and pics from the show will be up at the link below within the next week. I CAN'T WAIT FOR WARPED TOUR!!!!!!!!!! MUST... HAVE... theSTART... HOODIE...
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Arlington, WA -

i like both bands tooo :)
punchy
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Not all My Ruin fans are like the one who posted here. And I find it as an embarrassment that someone did that. I like both bands, and I don't care what happens between them. I like their music. Plain and simple.
a fan of both bands
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the person who posted on the my ruin board totally wasn't aimee, it was somebody who thought they would be helping the band out by pretending to be somebody they're not and going to the last board on the planet that they should have gone to in order to try and get people interested in going to see thestart. good idea to a certain degree, but don't fucking lie about who you are, you're not doing anyone a favor by doing that. it's interesting, though, to see how many of my ruin's fans were just waiting for something like this to happen so they could spring back out of the woodwork to make rediculous comparisons between aimee and gwen again. i'm sure they all think tairrie is the female jim morrison (which is far from a compliment, if you ask me). "god wants a piece of my ass." ??? uh huh, that's grammy material right there.
~puke soup~
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yea hedwig is such a great movie...there do live shows in the hollywood/santa monica area...check out the website...http://www.rainbowcarnage.org
carrie
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well on a more exciting topic, has anyone seeen hedwig and the angry inch? awesome movie.
punchy
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i figured it was more of the "not her" because they left your email address human.
hypnaughtika
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I just got back from seeing The Start on tour in Utah. I drove two hours straight to get there and waited two hours more before the opening act started, and damn was it worth it! You guys rocked hard, sounded great, and have seriously affected the way I look at music. I could tell you were all tired before and after the show, and I know that Aimee hasn't felt well, but during the show you all sang and played amazingly and gave it your all. I will make the journey to see you guys again; hopefully so will everyone that hears about you from me. ROCK ON!
Jeff C. Jensen <Boozing101@hotmail.com>
Logan, UT USA -

Spoke with Echo today. She has not been near a computer since she left LA. She is on tour in a van. She did NOT post on the my ruin board. She has no idea who did. Perhaps a misquided START fan or some other imposter. Not that it matters much.. Just wanted to set the record straight. ~human
human <human@thesart.org>
LA, CA USA -

i swear to fucking GOD if someone comes sailing in here flapping their arms and waving the christforsaken myruin flag one more time im gonna fuckin log their IP's, track their addresses, take a week off from work and go VISIT these motherfuckin people. VISIT them hard.
kt
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AMEN to amanda.
Anne
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A-Girl-Ruined, you said this in a previous post - "so why would a metal fan like the Start then?"
could it be because not all my ruin fans are metal? could it be because a person can like more then one type of music? could it be because someone might want variety?
i'm a fan of both. hell - i run websites on both (which are lacking updates) but fuck it. is it not ok to support both bands? i've read the shit over there and the reposes to the aimee post, whether it was her or not, just seem incredibly ridiculous. to make it short and sweet - aimee and tairrie are two different women doing two different things. why is this so hard to recognize?
end of story. i shouldn't have mentioned anymore, but i was re-reading things and just... ugh! you may not like the music but you've got to respect it because at least some of them are doing more then any of us will ever set out to do.
hypnaughtika
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i agree with anne. if you want to argue about it, go talk to someone who cares, because after the last few posts it's pretty obvious no one here does...
ricki
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AIMEE- Just wanted to say whatup! I was at the Bellingham show, purple hair, obsessed....my boyfriend made you that green poster. Rock on! Hope you're feeling better!
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood, WA USA -

Och, no! It's over! No big deal to anyone - it's just my sense of 'fair-play'.
A-Girl-Ruined
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Och, no! It's over! Not THAT big a deal to anyone - it's just my sense of 'fair-play'.
A-Girl-Ruined
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i thought this shit was over with. suppose it'll never fully be done with though.
hypnaughtika
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Blah. Repeat. Stupid. Repeat.
If any of you My Ruin fans noticed... we don't sit and bicker about who's the badder rockstar chick on this site. If there's a discussion, it's usually about something worthwhile. So please save your drama for rainy day when we might actually be bored enough to care.
Anne
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My problem is not with theStart's fans - it's with integrity and being used...I wouldn't like to be... :)
A-Girl-Ruined
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just got back from theStart rawking tacoma. good times. I cannot wait for warped tour. The new ep sounds great. Hope ya get over that cold aimee! 8>)
*jeris* <nerdykid01@hotmail.com>
bellvue, wa us -

*sigh* Can't we all just get along? And maybe grow up too?
a fan of both bands
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Ummm....no. You tell me what you think on the board - and I'll read it! I've already dealt with a virus sent by some asshole I don't even know (I'm not saying that you would, but more people than just you read the board) & would rather it didn't happen again. Aimie has, for a very long time, been blanking Tairrie, so SHE would be the hypocrite? I'm happy to explain any part of my opinion you have difficulty with. Just ask!
A-Girl-Ruined
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A-Girl-Ruined... your talking about people making a desperate plea to be noticed on someone else's board... aren't you being a hypocrite? I highly doubt anyone cares what your opinion is- leave your spite on your own board. And if your so strong about making an opinionated statement.. why don't you leave an email address next to your name so that some of the Heretics can voice their opinion to you.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

I like the 'My Ruin' website better than this...it's a bit more atmospheric and there's loads more stuff on it too-plus Tairrie B and her band My Ruin make really GOOD music, it has to be said. I do agree with Ruined Girl about Miss Echo posting on this site though...she thought 'people who like Tairrie might like her? Why? Aren't there more appropriate bands than My Ruin for a Start fan to like? Miss Echo, long ago, said that she did not cosider herself metal - so why would a metal fan like the Start then? It seemed more like a desparate attempt to poach Tairrie's fanbase. There's room to like lots of bands, but they should show support if they want to receive it...it's really good of Tairrie not to mind though!
A-Girl-Ruined
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That person just looks stupid. The End.
Anne
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I just thought it would be funny to come here and post because a few days ago Aimee made a post on the My Ruin message board that has caused quite a controversy. I am not a Start fan and I think it really sucks that Aimee felt the need to post on the My Ruin board when she does not even support or like the band much less the singer Tarrie B.All these people keep saying that The Start and My Ruin should do a show together but in my opinion My Ruin shouldn't bother. Maybe Scarling and My Ruin would be a good match but who knows considering I have not yet seen Scarling. I just think it's funny how suddenly Aimee makes an appearance on a certain site after how long? Gimme a break Aimee Echo you can try all day to be whatever it is you are trying to be now but Dale Bozzio, Deborah Harry, Gwen Stefani and yes Tarrie B all do it better! The Start should let Jaime Miller go be the DRUMMER of a band worth a shit cause he is wasting his time in your circle. How's that tour going? Selling any tickets yet?
Ruined Girl
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KT, Dude, I apologise for my excessive lameness. I'm leaving my house for good at midday. It's now 2am ish If you can call me before then, the only reason I won't answer is if i'm online, so mail me. If you can't get me then, then i'll mail you my home number for the summer.Hopefully talk to you soon dude.
Metal Malcolm
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Hey all start fans I just got back from the bellingham show and they rocked my socks if you havent seen them yet I really recommend you do and I hope to see you at the warped tour Don Neal WE ARE LEGION!!!!!
Don Neal <venom_107@hotmail.com>
Everett, wa usa -

'ello love-eee-lees. any news on the east coast thing?? when/where/with scarling (ooh please please please)??? Human! fill me in.
natalie
ny -

HOW the fuck did phil not get those messages?! i left like THIRTY of those fuckin things!
kt
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i just watched I AM SAM and now i wanna beat sean penn to death with a fucking oscar trophy. yeah Scott, if you don't come back and post every now and then, we're going to come and throw a molotov cocktail through your window
kt
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Scotttttt..... you're gonna miss out on the Watercourse restaurant now. Maybe one day they'll create a frozen foods line.
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
Denver, -

Well Scott, I wish you nothing but the best of luck. You're talented enough to do whatever you want, so please do so. As long as you're doing what makes you happy, then nothing should go wrong. But keep in touch with all of us here, eh?

KT - Dude...I'm so so sorry, I had to rush off on monday and i've only just got back. I'll be in for the next 24 hours if you can still call. And no, Phil didn't get the messages. Which is a shame. Anyway, Mail me or something.
Metal Malcolm
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As all the others have said....best of luck to you Scott!!! :)
Amy
Oz-Land -

SCOTT!! We'll all miss you. You have to keep us posted on what you're doing. damn. its depressing though. Well best of luck to Scott-ness and theSTART. Love you.
natalie
ny -

'Dig a Pony' was largely made up in the studio and the words make very little sense. At one point it was called 'Con A Lowry' (possibly to a reference to a make of organ used in the studio) but John changed it to 'Dig A Pony'. "because 'I con a Lowry' didn't sing well... It's got to be d's and p's, you know." Similarly, the line 'I do a road hog' started 'I dig a skylight' and then become 'I did a groundhog'. "It had to be rougher," John argued. "I don't care if skylight was prettier." The chorus was taken from a separate song of John's written about Yoko Ono called 'All I Want Is You'. The original song listing for the album used this title rather than 'Dig a Pony'. In January 1969 when the song was recorded, John explained the secret of its composition,"I just make it up as I go along". In September 1980, he laconically concluded, "(just) another piece of garbage".
stefanie
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Read those lyrics over and over again for about a half hour and i'm still oblivious to the song's meaning. HELP ME!
MegziE
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The "You know you dig a pony" is in referrence to John Lennons Dig a pony whose lyrics can be found here http://www.keno.org/john_lennon/Digapony.htm and aimee hinted at it being something else ... lol ... read the lyrics and you'll see what it means.
Mia Valentine
ca -

I saw theSTART last night in San Francisco. They played at the Pound. I just love their sound and energy! Great, but short, show!
Cris
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::tear:: on the brighter side they will be here in nine fucking dayz. and yes i will have the infamous hotpink britney purse of disdain.
MegziE
Dallas, -

Scott! i'm gonna miss you man... :( I hope you keep playing and rocking! don't forget all of us. :) Thank you for always being SO awesome to me and my friends. we will truely miss you!! Lots of love!!!!!
TAP - Homicide's Ladies <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -

hmmmmmmmm this brian fellow...can we TRUST HIM!?!?!?!?
kt
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scott you MOTHERFUCKER LOL
kt
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I just wanted to add my good luck scott!!!
lauRa
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hey, wouldn't it be great if good ol' chris vrenna could drum for theSTART? mr. founding drummer of nine inch nails, doing nothing now except for remixes and some solo project that doesn't do any live gigs. aimee already knows him, she should ask him to audition or see if he's interested, shouldn't she? he'd never really take scott's place but he'd certainly be able to fill any missing chair, or stool in this case.
~puke of hurl~
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good luck scott!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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good luck in whatever you do, scott...we will miss you!
ricki <shinedownunshy@hotmail.com>
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wow, scotts gone, bugger, miss you man!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

as long as everyone is still friends, that's all that matters. good luck to you, scott.
kenickie
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How sad! =\ I'll miss you, Scott! Hey, can we make fun of Bryan because he's the new kid? Give him wedgies and the like? ;-)
Bronagh <bronagh@badgirlsgotohell.org>
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good luck to you scott... i'm thinking this (http://www.nme.com/news/102086.htm) would explain the audiogalaxy thing... fuckers. i want mp3s. now i'll just have to hunt down a new program to download them from, and they can spend a year figuring out it's happening and then suing the pants off of THEM. don't they understand this process? they're not going to curb mp3 trading at all by shutting down the programs. bah.
stefanie
nyc, -

ARRRGH! I can't fucking wait until friday... *does a little dance*. I'm going to see theSTART and all their glory in Bellingham (who else here is going???). I'm hoping to hang out with Echo again... Aimee, I KNOW you remember Don and I from Graceland 3/22/02 in Seattle... our band is called Rottencore??? Hehehe, I'm dragging the whole band with me this time. Yeeuh. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm so damn excited...
Bre <freakho42@hotmail.com>
Arlington, WA -

so does this mean that scott will be doing something [band-wise] different or leaving the music scene completely [please say no to that one]
carrie
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All the best to Scott and theStart respectively! Does anyone know why everything on Audiogalaxy is blocked all of a sudden???
liesey***
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First off, I apologize to everyone, and I love you all. I love theStart as much you do, but I felt it was time for me to stop. I wish only the best for my friends and hope you all go out and see them on this tour.(go get a shirt and CD while they are cheap!)(and yes, be nice to bryan)I'll be around. I love you, and I thank you for everything. Scott
scott
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human is the coolest :P
stefanie
nyc, -

Just got my tickets for the show on the 29th.....wooohooo!!! BTW, HUMAN....you rock!!!!
Cory
Ft. Worth, TX -

OOOOPPPPSSSSSS!!!!! i was 2 days off. add 2 to all those numbers. ah like you care.
lindsay <onepiecekill@hotmail.com>
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brian what'sit? why no more scott?! a babys gotta do what a babys gotta do i suppose. 35 days till warped. 35 days till my birthday. 330 days since i bought SHAKEDOWN! do we see the connection?
Lindsay <onepiecekill@hotmail.com>
Columbus, IN USA -

i need as much info as possible over this new drummer thing
MegziE
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ahh they are playing mary jane's here...MARY JANE'S. i hate that place =x
ricki
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on the new page on the other site it says: "BRIAN FERRERO will be playing drums for theSTART for the summer... Be nice to him..." but what does that mean?? is scott still the "official" drummer?? IS there an "official" drummer?? *confused*
Colleen <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -

vex red and will haven are both playing tonight. of course not at the same place. blast my luck. i'm still wondering what the deal is with the ever so love-e-lee scott.
natalie
ny -

well, as long as a good time was had by all..
ricki
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it was utter insanity. a car chase and consequent lawsuit ensued i think. i honestly had nothing to do with that one, so i don't really know.
kt
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oh man...egg whites are so hard to wash off lol
ricki-
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oh no, dont get me wrong...it all ended up cool. Robert Mann...who's their singer i think, and i ended up getting along just fine, until the end of the year when my friends egged his '57 chevy.
kt
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well that was a bit abraisive...
but i guess everyone was a geek in highschool, including me

don't diss straightedge =p
ricki
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RECOVER!?!?!? I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!! my freshman year at McCallum High, i had a few classes with them. their singer used to and probably still does drive that obnoxiously cool babyblue '57 chevy bel-air. we, the heavy-metal dope-smoker kids, used to get into fights with them, who were in the fuckin' straight-edge fuckin 'XXX for life!!!' emo-core group, back when they were called Colorcast. they all used to wear their little blue Colorcast T-shirts on the same days and shit and shit LOL...oh man...and now they're Recover or whatever and getting all fuckin...RECOGNIZED and shit...ARGH!
kt
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my esteemed colleague, a thundercloud subs employee, or if you know the franchise, a 'thunderhead', just emailed me this priceless hilarity:"forty fuckin dollars!seem pricy for a concert? get down on your knees and thank bill for that price. the only place you can get tickets for the tool show is from bid sites and bidding starts at 120. but we're going. no thanks to 101x friday night the announcer said tickets went on sale at 1200pm and at 1145am I was up and at my computer with my girlfriends mom's credit card . but guess what. ticketmaster had every show but austin and the only way to get them was through 101x's site. I don't know if you have ever been to this piece of shit site but it can't handle a million furious fuckin tool fans that can't find their long awaited and deserved tickets. Finally I get the main menu that informs me tickets went on sale at 10:00am at HEfuckinB. In a frantic dash for the door I bring the room crashing to the floor around me as the hatred of these fascist musical cock suckers of satan, nuzzle up to choke down a breakfest of the hope of a thousand universes as their fathers all have torrid affairs with skanky women in their midst. long story short HEfuckinB 101.5 and all of satan's little blow hards are goin down on us, we're goin to TOOL!!!"
kt
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yeah don't disrespect the austin...
out of texas, i think austin has the best music scene *ahem recover ahem*
ricki
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hey man, FUCK YOU!!! AUSTIN RULES!!!!
kt
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the start, please come to san antonio. austin is not good enough, some of us(yes thats you and me, emphasis on me)cannot make the commute.
Dee S. Susan <jiveterkey@hotmail.com>
san antonio, tx earth -

not knowing anything about scott's circumstances but having read this on theprp (which has a habit of being right about stuff like this, if rather late in getting the information), i can only say that scott has been a giant part of making theSTART's sound as unique and original as it is, and to lose him would be a tragedy... but if he's decided to leave, then we can only wish him the best in future endeavors and hope that this bryan guy is just as good? but umm CONFIRMATION is cool? eh.
stefanie
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Yeah, someone told me that Scott left and was replaced by some guy named Bryan. I cant wait to see them on Warped tour in cleveland. I hope theyll be at the merchandise booth signing autographs n'stuff.
E-liz
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what in cunts hell malcolm, you never mailed me back! Grrr at you!
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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Scott's left!? Oh nooo! :-(
Bronagh
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someone told me about scott a while back, so i guess it is true.
kenickie
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ARTHUR ANDERSEN HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY!!!! YAY!!!!
Metal Malcolm
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Puke - Yep, soccer. It's the world cup, and so you can't get away from the damn thing. Still, it looks like we've got Brazil in the next round. Which will be nice.
kt - It's on the way

and yeah, confirmation of the Scott thing would be nice. If he is leaving the band, then best of luck to him, but I hope it isn't true.
Metal Malcolm
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Damn, i hope it isn't true.
ME <thesimpletreatment@hotmail.com>
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hey malcolm, when you say football do you mean soccer? and, if so, why the fuck are americans the only people who call it that? maybe canadians too, i dunno... how odd. "well they do say that america and europe are two continents separated by the atlantic ocean. and it's true." ~ ed.iz.
~punky pukester~
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so. i was just on theprp.com. and it says that scott is out of the band. (assuming this is true...) why why why why why?????????????!!!? and why didn't he say bye? Is this brian fellow going to be his replacement, or just temp??
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

hey asshole send me your number again i lost it
kt
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kt - I so thought you were about to go into an ozzy-style "I was pissing on the alamo" kinda tale. If you still have that phone card, I'm probably gonna spend most of this week alone as my last housemate moves home tomorrow, and i'm gonna be alone for a week, so I could do with the conversation. Or anyone else that wants to bring me some beer and dope and discuss politics and music whilst getting completely shit-faced
Let me tell you all about the last few days. On saturday I got up at 2 in the afternoon, went to work, worked till 9, then went out to a techno all-nighter which I left, far from sober, at 6am. I ended up in a random persons flat until half 11 in the morning while they got ready for their acid to kick in. I eventually passed out 4 oclock monday morning. I then got up at 2 in the afternoon and got a lift onto campus for a meeting, then went to the university battle of the bands, then to a party at work with free drink for 2 hours, then to a club, and then ended up passing out in a friends room at 5:30 am after walking my exgirlfriend to her door and back because she was scared to walk there by herself. I got up at half 10 to go to work, leaving at 5, and drunk and smoked until 2am. got up at half 8, went into the studio to record a new track, and partied until 9am thursday, passing out in the same friends room as before. Woke up 5 hours later and kept going, including at one point having 16 people in one room, and a 2 1/2 foot long spliff. Finally got home at 5am, got into work friday morning at 11, finished work at 4, and it's nowhalf past midnight, and i'll probably stay up to watch the football game tomorrow.
It's been a fairly busy week.

Oh, and check out my bands' website. It's had a fairly serious overhaul.
Metal Malcolm
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thanks a bunch puke =)
well i didn't complain much about the cost of the shirt, because first off no one was even looking at their merch, everyone was there for incubus except a tiny handful (lo and behold it was me and my friends) so i was being supportive
ricki
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shirts were ten bucks i think, hooded sweaters twenty five. so for thirty bucks you coulda gotten three new t shirts or a sweater and an ep or something. ah, i remember the days when i could get an incubus t-shirt from the mall for 15 bucks, from the mall for fuck's sake. you probably still can, but they charge thirty at the arena because they know you'll buy it. when you go to shows like that the only good thing to buy is the program because they'll never sell it anywhere else for less money. but you just wait, in two years theSTART's shirts will be going for the same ammount when they play an arena. maybe.
hey, kt, you got the compliment of the century! try washing your pants with a bunch of tissues in one pocket and a blood stain on the outside and see which hangs in longer. besides, there's nothing wrong with being outside, just ask david bowie. "it's happening outsiiiiiiiide. the music is outsiiiiiiiide."
~pukeular warfare~
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err i have a question for anyone who's gone to a show recently

how much are the t-shirts? last show i went to (incubus tour) i paid 30 bucks, was worth it though. but alas i am a poor art student...
ricki
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hahahha....nice
ricki
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My friends, the other night i found myself in the parking lot of the Motorola manufacturing complex on the bleary edge of town at around 5:30 in the morning. i didn't have the cab fare to get me any farther out into the bush, where i live. i was very intoxicated and could not figure out how to work the cellular phone i was recently given. i hate cellular phones. i had been discussing with esteemed colleagues and thinking all night of heavy things such as the 12 million count figure the US government projected wil die when india and pakistan square off. I was wondering what morning it will be when he hear that this has happened. I spent hours weighing the merits of our grandparents' generation and our parents, the baby-boomers, and then their children, us. us...it was mind-bending. I had to take a piss so i stumbled over to the dumpster near the depot entrance. while i was relieving myself i felt the glaze of distant headlights swell to cast the differences of my shadow hunched over itself in front of me against the dumpster. i turned around, and in the reserved parking lot space fifteen feet away was a black volkswagen passat. when the driver turned his headlights off i could see his face; he was a younger man of about 27 or so, bearded with slick glasses and dressed sharply in a suit. he got out of his car and stormed up right up to me with his briefcase wearing the most offended and furious look on his face. he yelled something like "What do you think your DOING?" and i said "Taking a piss. What are YOU doing?"..."What am I doing!? I'm coming to WORK, and when I co..." and before he could say anything else i interrupted him and said "Sir! If life is a pair of pants...what pocket are we in right now?" and so he frowned, backed off, then pointed at me with his finger accusingly and said "YOU'RE not IN the pocket! YOU are the STAIN on the OUTSIDE!!!" and then stormed right off. i stood there for a long while after that, my friends, trying to figure this one out...in the midst of everything else. i dunno...the whole time, during and after the whole encounter i had been thinking...hey man, i'm pissing on a fuckin DUMPSTER!
kt
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such a good show tonight, guys. you need to make that blue shirt in a boys small tho. and what's with no scott? what happened? sadness! anywho, i shall see ya at the upcomin ca dates. -lex
lex
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i just got back from the show at the glasshouse with finch and i never heard of you guys till tonight but id like to tell you i think u f-ing rock!!!!!!!! the chick singer is sooooooooo frikin awesome!!!!!!! u guys are like the next big thing. i hope to see you again!
courtney <heymoeemo@cs.com>
covina, ca usa -

thanx stefanie. and you live in chicago right?? if you could when ever you find out about a show could you please email me giving me the info. a million thank you's. take care.
lisa <missworld22@aol.com>
la puente, ca -

ahhh, utah.... as Steve-O says, "the asscrack of civilization"

gotta love SLC punk =)
ricki
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hey lex...... i've seen theSTART about 18times, and have missed a couple of shows....sniff sniff!
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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they will be coming through the chicago area at the end of july for warped tour. so no worries. and chicago isnt that bad of a place to be "stuck in". i mean you can always live in....utah? yeah..
steFanie
chicago, -

hey everyone.... i have a message for scott, jamie, jeff, and aimee... PLEASE PLAY IN CHICAGO!!! you have one of your greatest fans (anthony) stuck there and he really wants to see you, so PLEASE play chicago some time real soon! i hope one of you gets to read this. thanx!and take care.
miss. world <missworld22@aol.com>
la puente, ca usa -

scott? where? hey you son of a bitch!!! you guys gotta come out when yall swing through austin and we can BURN MORE SHIT!!!! LOL eh???
kt
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damn you, scott! you made me sad.
~puke~
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whoa wait, put the gun away?! what kind of pony digging is going on here?
stefanie
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also, you dig a pony.
stefanie
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hmm, you rule.
stefanie
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I wasn't looking for Buddha...that's what the pundits say...you know he dig a pony... My wrists had grown so tired from bleeding and pleading again- look at me- put the gun away......Would it be perfect if I said what shouldn't be said? I'll let you have the reins, I'll even give you a leg up... to have just forty more I'd bleed- I'm pleading again...
HMMM
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okay, click my name and look at the lyrics... the 1234 lyrics are up and if ANYBODY can help us with the missing lines it would be so much appreciated. digging ponies since 1983.
stefanie
philly, -

LOL
kt
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i dont get it.
kt
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[nelson]
*points at head of Label*
HAW-HAW

[/nelson]
Metal Malcolm
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HMMM - YOU GENIUS.
punchy
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I can't believe you're finally coming to Bakersfield. I'll see you when you get here on the 18th. Just look for the dumbass with too much naivete and that certain "use me" look in his eyes.
Ty <KmatrixK@bak.rr.com>
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i guess i will start....12 times
lex
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anyone going to the glass house show? and i got to wonderin today...how many times has everyone here seen thestart?
lex
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you know he dig a PONY...
HMMM
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The big shot who owns "the LABEL" also owns the PONY shoe company.hmmmm
hmmm
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The chain reaction show for THE SHOW AT 7 will start at 7:30. We never get to play at 7. Oh well.
OoO OMAR OoO
Ca -

hey malcolm...i just gotta phone card so i'm gonna call your English ass right now. i don't know what time it is over there, but i dont give a shit. its been too long since i reached out and touched anyone...
kt
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that was bad. i knew t was bad, but i had to
kt
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*boom boom*
Metal Malcolm
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*ROFLMFAO*
kt
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cool, what time is the show?
kt
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Hey guys, whats up. Just letting you all know that THE SHOW AT 7 are playing at Chain Reaction this coming tuesday, June 11.Its a local band show case, all ages. Good ol' Punk rock. 8 bucks. Hope you all can come! www.showat7.cjb.net
OoO OMAR OoO <WoNdErShOw7@aol.com>
ca -

god damn, i missed something spectacluar?? i hate it when that happens....

i had noticed that a bird named lizzie wanted a horse, who is she and why does she want a horse? they dont do anything i had two when i was a kid and their crap....so lizzie, get something productive, horses are only good for glue....
jen jen
manchester, uk -

i think that happens a lot, i had english teachers who couldn't use the correct form of "you're" or "your" how are they supposed to teach US that?
ricki
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i attened a public skool. the lausd system, there is a budget on the income for the teachers to what they plan to do is release many non-cridental teachers and add more students to a class. the only problem is that this doesn't help anyone. there will be a protest at our skool, and we hope everything turns out fine!
-erika <mobidhalo5@aol.com>
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yeah that's happening here too, we got a Kohl's, a Chili's and a Denny's, and everywhere the pretty countryside is being plowed down to make parking lots. and tons of people are moving in, our highschool was way overcrowded. eesh!
ricki
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we havent gotten any fucking wal marts yet. 99 percent of the business in this town is completely independent, and this is due directly to the fact that Dripping Springs has been dry since fucking prohibition. it wasn't long until the locals figured out it was a great way to keep out ugly franchises...until the last few years, it has worked. but yuppies from austin are infesting in droves, the thick wooded hills are being cleared for TRACT HOUSING and gas station/ fast food hybrids are popping up everywhere.
kt
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hmm yeah, i live in a small texas town too, but there are no movies being filmed here. just WalMart and some cows.

moo.
ricki
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yeah, whats the deal? are we just OFF over here or something in good ole Dripping Springs? that much certainly wouldn't suprise me. this whole town, all 1548 of them, are going apeshit over Ron Howard's $100 million production of the Alamo, being filmed here in town. this gives me something to do this summer. hell, i've always wanted to break onto a movie set. maybe i can find Opie himself, grab him by his collar and scream into his face that i've been on the blunt recieving end of his industry for three years and its about time i had my chance make the jump to the other side. i could be Col. Travis, goddammit...drawin' my line in the sand...
kt
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ms echo, admit it. you dig a pony. we understand. if anybody understands this line better than we do, help us out here. biiig shoot, you know you dig a pony. phony? no, pony. i swear.
stefanie
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kt did you hear about South Park Mexican? forty-five years in prison with no chance of parole for sex with a minor(s)...

so sad, what's with people and molestation these days?
ricki
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you live in a small town in texas, right?
~puke~
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hey puke...for the last 12 years i attended public school, the word "God" was there, in its original place in the pledge EVERY FUCKING MORNING
kt
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yeah, and i believe they mean PARTICIPATING IN, not owning.
kt
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kt. are you serious? ok. never liked that r kelley anyways. i really do think the 1234 EP should be called the PONY EP. Unless me and stefanie are having hearing problems. am i the only one who thinks aimee says "dig a pony" in big shot?
punchy
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R Kelly has just been officially charged with 21, thats TWENTY ONE counts of child pornography...
kt
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good idea heh....i do think Flying Machine needs to be revived though...i've been trying but tripping over school as usual. i'm starting college in august though, so i'll (theoretically) have more time to work on it... heh
wish me luck?
ricki
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punchy and i were trying to figure out lyrics to the 1234 ep and disregarding all the horse references in hi-flyer ('i'll let you hold the reins/i'll even give you a leg' or something like that), we were almost certain we heard something about a horse on the other tracks :P now we're concerned. almost got 'em done though, i'll post later and maybe people can help with what we don't have. i THINK miss punchy and i need to start a website for theSTART this summer.
stefanie
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when they take the word god out of the pledge of allegiance, i'd say yes, there is such a thing. people can still come to my door and try to talk to me about their beliefs since that bill wasn't passed that tells everyone to keep their religions to themselves. that would be unconstitutional, which brings up the whole hypocritical aspect of a government having to govern something that it says shouldn't have anything to do with public government. but religion is a tricky fucking thing to handle for anyone, let alone politicians. as far as not having any limitations, well, we've created so many, if we want to start tearing things apart and starting over i'm all for it. god knows we're trying to muster up as many do-overs as possible.
~me~
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you think there's a separation of church and state in this country, Monsignor Regurgitorious? you honestly, like REALLY think there is ANY such thing?
kt
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limitations? FUCK limitations.
kt
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well said human.....:)
-erika <moridhalo5@aol.com>
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i agree with a percentage of human's post, especially the freedom to choose part. abortion isn't nature's way of anything, it's science's way of destroying a life to save another. miscarriages aren't common and consistant enough to be compared to abortion. for every one true story about a girl who's life would have been over and needed an abortion there's 20 other stories about women having ten abortions a year (if not more) because that's their choice for birth control. if stress was a major factor in miscarriages then all an unwanting, stressed out mother who's considering abortion would have to do is just worry a little more and the problem will fix itself, right? and what about every deformed or diseased person that you've ever seen, obviously nature didn't weed them out, so would you wish them dead? reproductive freedom is something we're all born with but society can take away. every fight for this freedom is a fight against that particular society and, yes, many people have died in that battle. but america fourty, eighty, or three-hundred years ago was a very different place both morally and scientifically. the puritains frowned on a lot of shit that is totally commonplace now, not just birth control. religion was way more a part of peoples' lives than it is now with the more enforced separation of church and state. modern medicine allows women who normally would have died in childbirth to live through it, the same way many of us would currently be dead or disabled if it weren't for "western" science. we all need the right to choose but with than comes the need for limitations. it's difficult for me to say, but it's true.
~mr. vomitrocious~
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i mean PUNCHY. you did miss quite a nerve-rending spectacle though, jen.
kt
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i don't know jenjen, but according to the liner notes of these cds, someone named Lizzie or something wants herself a damn horse. hey Aimee! if and when you guys come down hereabouts, and if you've got the room, we can go like right down the highway and STEAL one! eh? i got horse tranquilizers, you know. lots of the stuff. maybe then i can actually use em!!! eh!?
kt
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hiyer...im back, whats the stuff about abortions? i missed a lot when i went away didnt i!!

see yous l8r...bubye
jenjen
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aimeee, do you have a thing for ponies?
punchy
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i know :)
punchy
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punchy... i'm not battling anyone's words. i'm just stating facts about issues. that's all.
stephen. hi, yeah i remember you. long time no talk.
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
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i say we can save money and time by having abortions and capital punishment consolidated into one service, performed at the same death-for-all facility. why half-ass it, you know? there can be a line for women at one end of the room, and a line for death row inmates at the other. the women leave with lollipops and painkillers, the inmates leave in bodybags. shit, forget the body bags. they can just dig a big hole out back to throw EVERTHING in! heh? heh!?
kt
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human, what you said was so awesome. perfectly stated. thats all i can say to that. you have articulated my [and im sure other people's] thoughts perfectly. im so happy you saw waking life stephen. it is one of my favorite movies. i just wanted to back you up and tell everyone to watch it. it is so incredibly thought provoking that you will want to see it again just to begin to think about everything addressed in the movie. how cool is the guy on the bridge?! 'on really romantic nights of self, i go salsa dancing with my confusion' haha
carrie
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anne, i never said i was for the death penalty, but i think i can see where you got that. im not exactly sure how i feel about the death penalty, i dont think i have thought long enough about this to have a firm enough belief to support it, so i wont go into it. anyways i agree, i dont think these 2 subjects contradict each other because they have nothing to do with each other. i guess if you apply "ever life's worth living" view, like jen said i think? im not sure, to the matter i can see where there is contradiction, but there is a big diffrence to me between a baby who did nothing, and hasn't lived their life at all and someone who has probably lived a good portion of their life and has made their own descions to get themselves in whatever position they're in. but im just repeating myself.
punchy
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umm without delving into this subject since my views are likely to get me into trouble... i got my 1234 ep today and i must say i am adoring it, particularly the title track. great car music.
stefanie
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Well said.
Bronagh
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In nature, if the fetus is malformed or unhealthy, or if the mother is under severe stress, often an abortion (miscarriage) will occur. Abortion is natures way of protecting the mother, so she will still be around to reproduce when the conditions are better. In America land of the free, it was once illegal even to have birth control information. Of course wealthy women always had access to abortion, even if they had to travel abroad to obtain it, where poor or working class women would have many children, and often died in childbirth. We have come so far. Women now have reproductive freedom, along with which comes with the ability to work and earn economic equality. It is easy to forget the women who have died and suffered along the way to earn this freedom. There is really only one freedom. It is the freedom to choose. If we can't choose we are not free . ~human
~human <human@thestart.org>
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Anne in DENVER, hey whats up..... stephen here, remember from the weezer show? just thought i say hey... oh yeah. ANY ONE THAT HAS NOT SEEN THE MOVIE "WAKING LIFE" SHOULD SEE IT>> ITS BRINGS NEW PERSPECTIVEs TO life!!! its predominantly about lucuid dreaming, the web site is cool too!!!! Peace love and live to live!!! Mpulzzz
Stephen <Funkism7@hotmail.com>
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This has always been an issue, although, only slightly riding with my own beliefs, I believe it's where hypocracy falls into topic. When one says that "every life is worth living," you can't pick and choose who this is to apply to. It must apply to all.. so even if someone has commited a crime, murdered, if every life is worth living, so is theirs. Personally, I could say that my own hypocracy is that I am pro-choice and anti-capital punishment. But when it comes down to my own moral beliefs, I would never actually get an abortion, therefor, no hypocracy. I hold the pro-choice stance in knowing girls who have been raped, in knowing girls that have been 14 and have been pregnant and have been completely alienated from all of their friends and some of their family. But as I never thought before whether or not I'd get an abortion if it came time to make that decision, I also witnessed a girl, whom I went to high school with, go through a pregnancy senior year, be alienated from friends, teachers, and family, and get straight A's and walk down the aisle in cap and gown the day before she was due. Capital punishment.. perhaps another issue completely. But again... hypocracy of moral beliefs, I suppose, it what it really comes down to.
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
Denver, -

I am both pro-life and anti-death penalty. I don't think anyone "deserves" to die. Two wrongs does not make a right.
jennifer
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while i totally agree with punchy on the issues being completely seperate, i feel completely opposite. i am pro-life but anti-death penalty. in my government class we have extensively discussed this because many liberal politicans feel the same way that i do and conservatives feel the opposite [like punchy] and people think this is contradictory. i think that terminating a preganancy at the very first stages and killing a fully developed human being are completely different, but that's just me....
carrie
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"While holding back my own opinion... for those who are very firm about their pro-life stance... I can only hope that you're anti-death penalty, just to back up your belief that every life is worth living. Just a thought..." -- annne well i guess im pro-life, but having an abortion and killing someone who was convicted of a crime is something that is totally diffrent. on one hand you have an innocent baby who essentially is being killed because it's not wanted, or whatever the reason. then you have someone who is most likely guilty of a crime deserving of the death penalty. im not sure how i feel about the death penalty, but i do think those are 2 seperate issues that shouldn't be compared to each other.
punchy <punchelette@aol.com>
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hey echo -- i just found out you guys are actually playing here again, i'm so excited...i noticed though that there is no venue set yet, if you guys need help finding somewhere to play by all means let me know and i'll help...

p.s. - warped tour is the next day, but i guess i'll have to go tired...i don't know if i can handle theSTART, glassJAw, finch and recover all in one weekend ;)
ricki <shinedownunshy@hotmail.com>
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i drew a short comic. click on the link.
kenickie
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I think u guys rock i just love your music u guys are so cool thank u bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Malory <ChicOnALeash@aol.com>
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"i'm pro choice, pro death penalty, pro assisted suicide, pro regular suicide. i'm for anything that gets the freeway moving faster." ~ bill maher
~puke~
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While holding back my own opinion... for those who are very firm about their pro-life stance... I can only hope that you're anti-death penalty, just to back up your belief that every life is worth living. Just a thought...
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
Denver, -

Just as a matter of interest... the news tonight documented a state parliament meeting held recently that brought the topic of legalising abortion in my state. There was 15,000 abortions last year when it was relatively illegal. Their theory is, how many more will occur if it is available on demand? Interesting thought. I really still believe that there is no 'one' answer and its necessity is in relation to many factors. Anyways, take care all,
liesey
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hey mal....como estas?
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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Hey thanks puke for acknowledging what i had to say.
MegziE
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heyho, jenjen is back from te ozzfest, it was so cool, ozzy is a dude, i also started liking kittie, which i thought was a bad thing but when they came on stage and played their set i really enjoyed it, so there you have my confession, im a born again kittie fan!
jenjen
manchester, uk -

Wow. I go away for a week and we all get political, fantastic.

I've just found out we're headlining the Uni summer party Indie stage, and we clash with Liberty X, the popstars losers....metal \m/ \m/
Metal Malcolm
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Hahaha, Kt, you're the best! :-*
Bronagh
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great! now lets all FUCK!!!
kt
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id also like to add that megzie is a brilliant individual.
~puke~
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hey, elysah, if you scrolled down you would have seen my comment about rape victims. allow me to quote myself "personally i believe that there should be acceptions [to an abortion ban]. i think the morning after pill is not abortion (and i do support it) and that a rape victim should be allowed to abort their child during the first and maybe the second trimester only. third trimester and partial-birth abortions are fucking grotesque and there's no reason why they shouldn't be outlawed."
i totally agree that sex can be a way of expressing your love for someone, i never said that everyone should be stripped of their pleasure sensors and have a legal limit of three children; although the latter does sometimes seem a novel idea. since i don't despise all forms of abortion i can't exactly call myself pro-life, so i too am pro-choice.
~sir puke~
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I fully agree with what puke has said and all the things he hasn't. Sex was designed for reproduction whether you choose to rule it "old fashioned" or simply choose to ignore it. They are sooo many other ways 2 people can be intimate and share their selves but it just takes more creativity and intelligence then unzipping your pants. And with that i'm not saying sex is the idiot's playground. I am pro choice because i feel that every life is worth living whether you were born loved in silk sheets or abandoned in a dumster. Anyways experiences aren't good or bad they are simply experiences. It's our mind that desides the effect the situation had on us. Once you honestly and fully accept that suffering is as an equal part of life as being happy then you can realize pain isn't sad it just IS.
MegziE
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I�m not saying that anyone is a "mistake"...it's just that sometimes a pregnancy isn't planned and it usually isn't at the best time. shit if everyone who didn't plan for their child would abort, then I wouldn't be here, so please don't take anything I said in the wrong way. I just think a women should have a voice, and hers is what really counts in this matter.
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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as a woman, i wasn't offended by what puke has said. i didnt find his comment sexist at all.
punchy
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i think that if a woman is raped she should have the privilage of having the choice to abort or not. but do you understand how little the percent of abortions come from raped women? most women abort for convienence. if abortion is ever banned, there should deffinantly be some exceptions, like if the woman was raped or the pregnancy is dangerous to her own life, etc. abortion is a form of birth control. you're preventing the birth of a child right? its like a last resort birth control.
punchy
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now, i agree with all of you that people need to be more responsible and use protection during sex. that would most definitely cut down on unwanted pregnancies, obviously. but, i've noticed that you've forgotten a very important issue. what if the woman is raped? no amount of responsibility can save her from that. and what if that happens and she's just a 13-14 year old kid? it's not her fault. she shouldn't have to bear that burden because of some sick asshole. some people, like puke, are always so quick to blame women for getting pregnant. get a broader perspective. a woman doesn't ask to be raped. she does not provoke it. a man doesn't rape someone out of sexual arousal, he does it out of anger, using sex as a weapon. now, don't you think a woman should have a choice then?
elyzah <morganna_moonstar@hotmail.com>
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*meant.
hypnaughtika
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kt: of course. that's what my "ah" ment. my bad i should have made it a wee or something.
hypnaughtika
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I totally agree with kenickie - its completely up to the woman involved. There has been several attempts to ban abortion where I live, yet none have been totally comprehensive. You can still get them performed, provided that it is safe for the mother. On the other hand, my boyfriend was an adopted child and his philosophy is that if his mother had of aborted him, he would never have existed. I really believe that it is up to the individual and reliant on the situation. I dont believe, however, that sex has nothing to do with closeness. Perhaps you've just never expeienced the right kind or with the right person. It can be fantastic but of course, if you dont take any precautions you must be prepared for the consequences. Abortion is not birth control, but for some people it may be a necessary 'evil' where the birthing of the child may be dangerous (for the child or the mother). Its really up to the individual and the individuals situation. You'll find that there will be alot of resistance to pass a bill of this kind. I'll stop raving now :) Take care all,
liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
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i believe it should ALWAYS be the woman affected who is the final decision maker on something like this - and state banning of abortion is a stupid idea that would serve no realistic or useful purpose.

having unprotected sex when you're not ready for children is a dumb idea; equally, not having sex period to avoid the risk of pregnancy also smacks of fallacy to me. sex is as much about expressing love as it is procreational.
kenickie
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anyone know where the start will be playing in San Diego? Hopefully its not a 21+ show!
Jen
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but, really Hyp, wasn't it always more fun this way?
kt
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ah. the board is starting to remind me of older days.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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practically, yes. honestly, no. but when i lost my virginity i was having unprotected sex at the time. five minutes later my girlfriend and i talked about pregnancy. at that point in time i realized what a mistake i had made and was totally freaked out at the possibility of being a father at 16. of course i had just lost my virginity so i wasn't about to stop having sex and all i was thinking about was myself in the present, not myself my child and my girlfriend in the possible future. after we broke up a few months later i was starting to "sleep around" but refused to have sex without birth control. then more and more of my friends started becoming single mothers or were having pregnancy scares of their own. i started to figure out that sex is mostly in the mind. i noticed how people would experience the pleasure and emotion of intercourse and get hooked on it like it was crack cocaine. and since i refuse to give in to any addictive vice (sans possibly marijuana) i decided that moderate sexual encounters with the constant use of birth control was the way to go, or better yet just staying away from it. the only form of birth control that is 100% effective without fail is to not have sex at all. the only sure fire way to aviod herion addiction is to not do herion. of course i usually feel like some kind of prude or a really lame individual for not hooking up with someone every time the opportunity presents itself (which honestly isn't often) or feel like a hypocrite every time i'm overcome with "earthly desires" and would do practically anything for a little copulation. but feelings like these are a lot easier to deal with than the feelings that go along with unwanted parenting.
~puke~
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puke are you a virgin?
echo
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...i like dead babies.
stefanie
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"I believe a women should have the right to decide what she wants to grow in her body or what she wants out." ~ call me crazy, but that really shouldn't be a post-coital decision.
~sir puke~
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erika- My conception was what you'd call a "mistake". My parents were both young unmarried, just out on their own and they REALLY did not want a kid at that point in their life. However my mother decided to take responsibility for her actions. And you can't even begin to imagine how incredibly grateful I am for that. She choose to think of someone other than herself and to give me the greatest and most precious gift possible....life. And even though they didn't want me at first they didn't really have to "learn" to love me. They had nine months, just short of a year, for the idea to grow on them. There actually is a prebirth attachment that occurs. And no I don't feel in any way that their love is "fake". Even though I know I was not wanted at first.
jennifer
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Hello to all.....puke...I have to agree with Brogan, that was a bit sexist, but clear and blunt way of stating a actual solution. If people only noticed how much poverty there is due to having so many offspring�s; not only poverty but negation and all sort of abuse, whether physical or mental a child is due to suffer if not planned for. I personally am very pro-abortion....I believe a women should have the right to decide what she wants to grow in her body or what she wants out. Yet, the stupidity of just having sex as a recreational time, is something most absurd. How would one feel if one were to know that your "parents" in-fact didn't want you, yet, learned to love you; would it not feel fake? I don't think anyone deserves this, no matter how much a person opposes. The women who is going to give life/birth to this offspring should have the right, and I think they will ALWAYS have the right to decide. Abstainance is the best way, but some just don't understand that, and it's cool and all, but just be careful of what you do, and remember...it was your choice to open your legs now it's your choice whether to keep them open for life, or to have that piece of you removed. I do feel a women should have a right, so I totally am pro-abortion.
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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all i know is that i dont have anything to say CAUSE I AINT GETTIN FUCKING LAID!
kt
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hmm, okay. firstly, bronagh, i respect your opinion a lot. you've taken a stand on many subjects on this board and i've completely agreed with you. you're very insightfull, we just happen to differ in opinion on this topic. differences like these can lead to what some may call "arguing" and can make everybody uncomfortable and i'd like to squash that as soon as possible. i've never been reffered to as sexist in my whole life, i actually find it offensive. maybe i can clarify a few things. "but I'm sure as hell not going to tell any other woman what she should and shouldn't do with her own body." and "but id never condemn anyone for their choice, i just wouldn't agree with it." were statements that i disagreed with. people are free individuals (depending on what country they live in) and have the right to make their own choices, but to say that you would never condemn or judge someone based on those choices or to say that you would never influence another person's personal choice is just not true. as an example i used a refference to smokers (and lumped them in with drug users, because that's what they are, the same as people who drink coffee and soda all day for the caffeine rush) stating that smoking is a personal choice. smokers are condemned every day because of this choice. there have been laws passed making it illegal to smoke just about anywhere. of course second hand smoke can cause cancer and second hand abortion is just disturbing, but it's an analogy for chrissakes. also, correct me if i'm wrong, but a fetus is a body in itself connected by the umbilical cord of it's mother. so having an abortion isn't a woman doing what she wants with her own body, it's a woman doing what she wants with her body allowing a much smaller body inside of her to get cut into little pieces and flushed out.
now about the comment that made me a sexist, i'm not taking back a word of it. males can't get pergnant (unless you're a member of the seahorse family) so obviously the ugliness of my words were directed towards females. sorry, that's just how it worked out. but frankly, if you're not in a position to have a child then you shouldn't be having sex at all. that goes for males and females alike. like lola said "it's not fair to bring a child into the world who isn't wanted" or, even worse, a child who wouldn't even be able to survive without government help. the answer isn't death, the answer is abstainance and moderation, something that this world doesn't want to understand.
~puke~
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i agree with puke...sex is taken far too lightly these days...its become a form of recreation...i find this disgustiong...people need to respect each other and themselves and stop being so indifferent toward each other. whatever happened to saying 'good morning or hello' to people you walk passed? well...i guess it doesnt really matter...were all gonna be slaves soon anyway. good fences do not make good neighbors...just a future of antisocial aliens. PEACE RESPECT AND REVOLUTION!
leigh
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Oh, by the way: "if you didn't have the answers to these questions before you decided to get fucked then you're a dumbshit and you do NOT deserve to be able to waltz into some office and have them scrape out your offspring. you deserve to have your boyfriend leave you and your parents disown you and wallow in your own stupidity. years of pain for minutes of pleasure." was the most sexist comment I've heard in a long time. Well done.
Bronagh
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I really hope you don't use that first paragraph as pillow talk, puke.
I don't think you can compare a drug user with somebody who has an abortion? I personally don't care if a complete stranger uses drugs. Again, it's their choice. Now, if it was somebody close to me, of course I would, out of concern for them, not because I'm taking a stand against drugs in their entirety. As for the children comment, parents are responsible for their wellbeing, AGAIN it's not a case of a group of strangers dictating what a woman should and shouldn't do with her own body.
It's a shame that this argument always gets to the point of somebody getting overly upset about other peoples' opinions. I respect yours, at least do the same for me.
Bronagh
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i would have to agree with bronagh, although puke did say some things that make sense (the whole jellybean thing was very funny :0) i think that in some cases abortion is being abused but to get rid of it would not be right. i mean, everyone who has an abortion has a different story and there are so many valid reasons that there is no way to make a law to pick and choose. i also think that the morning after pill should be more readily avaible because it would stop many unnessary abortions. it's not fair to bring a child into the world who isn't wanted. i know someone's thinking "what about adoption?" well, here in california there are so many kids in adoption that it would be impossible to give them all homes, and spending the first 18 years of your life in foster care is tremendously painful. i think that everyone should have a choice of what to do with their body and not have someone else's morals imposed on them.
lola
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having sex for your own pleasure is as selfish as becoming a minister for your own salvation. we have sex organs because we're supposed to use them to make children, plain and simple. if it didn't feel good we'd never do it and our species would die out.
as far as choices and condemnation go, for someone to say that they'd never tell someone what they should and shouldn't do with their own body is 100% pure bullshit. you know why? because we don't draw the line at your body, we start thinking about how what you do with your body affects mine. for instance, i remember when smoking a cigarrette was considered a personal choice, something you're doing to your own body. but now, good god, show me a smoker or virtually any other "drug user" and i'll show you somebody being condemned for their choices. or what about if/when you do have children? you wouldn't influence them or scold them for decisions that they make concerning their own bodies?

nobody knows what choice they would make until they're staring the situation in the face, true. but too many people have knee-jerk reactions when faced with something they're affraid of. a girl becomes pregnant and she starts worrying about tons of shit like "is the dad going to have anything to do with this, will my parents be supportive, how much will childbirth hurt, am i financially capable of feeding two mouths" and so on. if you didn't have the answers to these questions before you decided to get fucked then you're a dumbshit and you do NOT deserve to be able to waltz into some office and have them scrape out your offspring. you deserve to have your boyfriend leave you and your parents disown you and wallow in your own stupidity. years of pain for minutes of pleasure.
~puke~
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oh but i do agree with puke about the women who were raped. they should have the choice to have an abortion.
punchy
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totally agree with you jen, that's how i feel. and i agree with puke too, those partial birth abortions, i think they're called, are pretty sick. but id never condemn anyone for their choice, i just wouldn't agree with it. *shrug*
punchy
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I dunno, if sex was JUST about having children then there'd be no pleasure to it, or it wouldn't be so hard to GET pregnant in the first place, which IS surprisingly hard to do. I'm definitely pro-choice. I don't know if I'd personally have an abortion, I don't think anyone really knows what they'd do unless they've been in that situation, but I'm sure as hell not going to tell any other woman what she should and shouldn't do with her own body.
Bronagh
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abortion is like jelly beans. i really wish i had an actual analogy to go along with that but i don't, it's just a cool statememnt, don't ya think? but anyway, i guess it depends on what you consider abortion to be. of course pulling a baby halfway out of the womb stabbing it in the back of the head and sucking out it's brains would be an obvious example of real abortion, but christian fundamentalists have argued that even masturbation is a form of abortion. personally i believe that there should be acceptions. i think the morning after pill is not abortion (and i do support it) and that a rape victim should be allowed to abort their child during the first and maybe the second trimester only. third trimester and partial-birth abortions are fucking grotesque and there's no reason why they shouldn't be outlawed. the morning after pill is a very acceptable form of birth control for those who's other means have failed. since the fertilization process takes up to 72 hours, if the condom breaks or something stupid like that the woman can take the pill within a certain time which kills any sperm in her system thus perventing any fertilization from taking place.

on the other side of the argument, infacide exists among almost every species. we've even found evidence of this in early man. if a tribe couldn't feed and support a newborn then they would kill it for the benefit of the tribe. we were killing our children long before we ever dreamed up god or money or morality as we know it today. it's only been "wrong" for the last few centuries. of course adoption wasn't really around during the early days of man but the notion of maturity sure was. if you think that you're mature enough to handle sex then you should also be mature enough to raise a child. correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the whole point behind sex to make children? or am i supposed to believe popular culture and think that it's going to bring me "closer together" with someone?
~puke~
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I personally do not believe in abortion no matter what the case, in that sense I guess I would be considered pro-life. HOWEVER I also believe it is NOT a political issue but a moral issue. And I do not and will not condemn anyone for having one, some very close friends of mine have had them before. We all have a free will for a reason, and it is not my place nor anyone elses, nor does anyone have the right, to impose a set of values or ideas on another person. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with theirs either. If that makes any sense at all.
jennifer
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i dunnno if id go so far as to say im pro-life but i think abortion is a pretty sad means of birth control.
punchy
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IS anyone here "pro-life"? i'm trying to find someone to validate the argument for me.
kt
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Ehh, Jeff? I don't think Elyzah said anything anywhere about holding a gun to your head and insisting you're pro-choice. That post is not "dictating", it's having an opinion.
Bronagh
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Hey, man... let people make their own choices. I certainly don't plan on dictating what someone else's choices should be.
Jeff C. Jensen <Boozing101@hotmail.com>
Logan, UT USA -

It won't be made illegal, it'd never pass.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

greetings, fellow heretics. i just signed a petition for million4roe.com. go there! they are trying to get lots and lots of people together who are in favor of keeping abortion legal. i swear, is bush a moron? maybe i don't need to ask that. but i wonder if he realizes that by making abortion illegal, that will only increase the amount of women who will die using illegal and unsafe methods of abortion, such as wire hangers. it will also increase the amount of children born in potentially neglectful and abusive households. if you personally are pro-life, i will respect your opinion. but i would just like you to think about something. what good is life if your parents don't want you? i've seen a lot of kids in that situation and it is absolutely heartbreaking. abortion does not prevent life. the soul that would have been born in that body will go to another body who has loving parents. and so i urge everyone, please, please at least consider going to that site and signing the petition. it's free, and your karma level will most surely go up. thank you all.
elyzah <morganna_moonstar@hotmail.com>
souderton, pa u.s. -

i graduated high school last night...i have been awake for over forty hours now
kt
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malcolm: i haven't checked my mail in the longest time - so its probably some shitty thing that's just sending itself, cuz i haven't been around to touch it. fucking bloody free e-mail services.
hyp
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Alright, I feel a little stupid now. I am really excited, because I'll be able to see you guys in Salt Lake on the 23rd. Rock on!
Jeff C. Jensen <Boozing101@hotmail.com>
Logan, UT USA -

I just got back from a cruise. Somewhere between Key West and the Cayman Islands, I hear this "Gorgeous" song on the TV. Absolutely awesome! I just ordered both CDs, and I'm going to join the mailing list. Are there any plans for a US tour?
Jeff C. Jensen <Boozing101@hotmail.com>
Logan, UT USA -

I've been getting lots of strange e-mails, all worms I'm sure, since they mess about with your address book.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Hey, Hyp, are you still around? I've been getting a few strange emails, including one from you, and i'm wondering if it's a virus or just Hotmail being useless.

Oh, and if you didn't already know, check the settings on your hotmail account. apparently Microsoft have added two new options to share your email address with companies and have automatically put "yes". Just thought i'd let you all know.
Metal Malcolm
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hello to everyone....i want to do shameless self-promotion for a friends band....www.angelfire.com/la3/southeastsabrosura/1.html(please check them out....a real talent i tell you all :)
-erika <morbidhalo5@aol.com>
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Ok, I'v signed up for the streetteam every day for like 2 weeks. For those of you on the team - How long did it take for you to get an email telling you you were accepted? I'm longing so badly to get on this team, and I'm starting to feel bad.......please let me know!!!
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood , WA US -

Thanks to a wonderful person named Dan Schartoff who gave me info on the Dallas show. I will be sure to say hi. -hey Aimee remember me the chick with the anti-Britney Spears hot pink purse?* * just wondering
Megzie
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Jiz - Yep!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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i was listening to E-lux today and thought i'd try and find a Himan Waste Project site, i did then found this site and i've just heard gorgeous and it is tottaly exCellent. Is the album out in the uk?
Jiz
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*bites tongue*
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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i think i'm still shaking in anticipation of the mere thought that i can see scarling and theSTART on the same night, in the same room + maybe possibly hang out, right Aimee? ::wink wink:: ny sends all our love. Are we doing the starbucks thing again?
natalie
ny -

hey! i just found out about this band! geez....am i so late? tell me things about this band! ( i know i can llok around the site and what-not, but it would be cool for you people to tell me too). the only songs ive heard are gorgeous and shakedown. I cant wait to get the whole album. I need money to spare though :\ okay,
Dawna <girltraptnabox@aol.com>
lancaster, ca -

they finally found her body. in the same park she last searched on her computer.
kt
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Ooooh! More news on Condit? What's happened? Tell me!
Metal Malcolm
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oooooh, i bet Condit is a sweaty, sweaty man right now.
kt
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"discover sewage that no ones EVER discovered!"
kt
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hey, you know what i did today? i finished my last exam. which means i have completed the degree i have been working towards for the last three years of university.

huh. what do i do now?
kenickie
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from what i've heard of how everyone's favorite little terror, Ms. B, treats the layfolks, telling an interested fan to 'do their homework' definitely sounds like something she would say
kt
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yeah nevermind u guys i found the date the'll be in dallas all by my little self! :) i don't have much else to say and all
Megzie <CaramelRockstar@aol.com>
America's Idiotsville, TX -

Hey everyone i'm new here because I have finally got computerized "yeah". I love the new record and can't wait for the tour. I just saw a band called My Ruin a couple weeks ago when I went to see Kittie when they came to my home town. I am a fan of all girl fronted bands and some are even metal. I met the singer and asked her is she had ever heard of the Start and she told me to do my homework so I did. I had no idea that Aimees previous band and Terri B's previous band toured together and they have been firends for like years or something. I felt really stupid. I think that My Ruin, The Start and Scarling should do a tour because although it would be a little incestuous it would be fun to see for the fans of all three bands. Just a thought for later. What does everyone else think?
Little Miss Gorgeous
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aimee...do you know if the burning brides show will be before or after you guys tour with scarling?
lex
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Hello everyone. I'm busily working on ideas for my theSTART website, my friend made one and now I'm inspired! Hopefully someday my band ()Rottencore) will tour with the fabulous Aimee Echo and her band. I'm kinda bummed though, I really really want to go to the show in Seattle/Tacoma on June 22nd, but it's not all ages! I hate being 15. So, I'm gonna try my hardest to go to the Bellingham show....
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood, WA 98292 -

I'm new. Hi everybody. *waves*
Chivahn <lollirot_angel@yahoo.com>
Stanwood, WA USA -

Scarling will indeed be with us on all of our dates. Some cities are still tentative and subject to change...
echo
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i bought my start cd after the weezer concert and it is the BOMB!!!!!! i think aimee is a good singer and so onnnn. g2g brandon
Brandon <none>
Richmond, VA -

Will Enemy also be on the tour with scarling?
Jen
CA -

uh oh... so I just saw on a local venue's page that Scarling is playing Lincoln Nebraska on June 26, then checked out the tour dates to see TheStart will be playing Lawrence that day. are ya'll playing separately that day or is the venue wrong that Scarling will be here? (hope so, as I want to see both...)
Cindy <cindyelder@hotmail.com>
Lincoln, NE -

new tour dates... are up... sorry no burning brides show just yet... but we will be playing with them in the future...hi
echo
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the reason Mike smith is in Limp bizkit is the same reason he is not in theSTART...
yes that girl
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Limp Shiznit?! Oh dear Lord...
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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hey, not been on in a while cos i've had no internet, hope you are all ok...see you soon love you all xxxxx
jenjen
manchester, uk -

burning brides are touring with thestart...this is going to f-in RULE!
lex
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Yeah, Mikey was the old guitarist. Left a while ago, then Jamie switched from bass to guitar and Jeff took over on Bass. The Mikey "Rumour" seems to be true, as Kerrang printed it *ahem*
In my opinion, he's a great guitarist who was asked to join one of the biggest bands in the world. Whatever anyone thinks of Limp Bizkit, and I think my opinion of them is fairly well known (For those who aren't sure, It's not a particularly favourable opinion), I don't think anyone would ever turn a job like that down. I say best of luck to him, and I wish him the best of luck.

I still want Fred Durst to drown in a vat of his own faeces though.....
Metal Malcolm
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who's mike smith? was that the start's gtarist in the beginning? sorry, the brain does not remember.
not a newbie, but short memory
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Hey there! Just to tell all you car owning people that it is Boycott Esso day on Sat 18th May, 2002. The reasons can clearly be seen on www.stopesso.com but basically, they gave Bush one million dollars for his election campaign and he then conviently pulled out of the Kyoto agreement. They also deny that Global Warming exists. Also known as Exxon or Mobil. Go on, help save the planet!
Rae <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
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Yep apparently the Mike Smith stuff is true and an 'official' statement is on the way.
Rae
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i heard that mike smith got the job for the new limp bizkit guitar player. for some reason i am doubting the person that told me, but i thought i would see if you guys heard this, too? if he did...sorry bud.
lex
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hey does anyone now the exact date they will be coming to Dallas? if so email me @ CaramelRockstar@aol.com
Megan
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from the other site, the confirmed dates *so far* for the tour w/ scarling: June 15th LA CA the Troubadour (with BURNING BRIDES and SCARLING) June 18-Bakersfield CA - Jerry's Pizza June 19 SF CA TBA June 20-Portland OR- Meow Meow June 22-Tacoma WA- Hell's Kitchen June 23-TBA-Salt Lake City June 24-Denver CO-Bluebird June 25-OFF June 30-Austin TX- Emo's
Cindy
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I need someones help!! at work (tower records) my manager is giving me a listening station. So i get to pick 6 cds that are going to be on display for everyone to hear. My 6 are: Jack off jill - clear hearts. Far - water + solutions. New End Original = thriller. Circle Jerks - golden shower of hits. My Ruin - a prayer under pressure...
and bikini kill - the singles. ( i would have picked deadsy + theSTART, except they're already in the IN-store play.) Anywayz, i have to write bio's for each of the bands. Maybe 10 lines each. maybe a little more than that. anyway i'm wondering if any one would like to help out with this. if you think of something spiffy to say, just email me. anything will be appreciated lots + lots.

so whats the deal with theSTART/scarling/enemy doing east coast (NY!!!) stuff??? oh and Human! i love you!
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

Sucks that the START's not touring all the way to the east coast. :( Any advice anyone has on what to do if one is a lead singer without a band? I don't know anyone who plays instruments, and i don't know of how to meet any.
Joe <cyruskhan@hotmail.com>
Tampa Bay Area, FL USA -

Join the DEADSY Undercore http://www.ufanz.com/teams/deadsy/tracking.php?ti=163&mi=5109
Jen <xtraego@hotmail.com>
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hey all...I just uploaded a bunch of mp3s to my powerman 5000 site, including an mp3 of human waste project doing "shine," live from that Monster Mosh CD. I've seen the file on audiogalaxy a few times, but thought perhaps some people might be interested in d/ling it. anyway, if so, its in the mp3 section of my site, bottom of the page. http://www.hell2025.com/pm5k
Cindy
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ahhhhh! holy shit--i freaking love msi....damn it, i'm so going to try emi...are you going??? i'm going to cream my pants if i go.......hehehe!
-erika
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Hey you guys... just wondering if any of you guys are going to see Mindless Self Indulgence on wednesday night at the whiksy. Well. if you don't know about it.. their fans are having a sleep over the night before. I guess they are really hardcore fans. Well.. another reason is because MSI never play at LA. But yeah..I just wanted to know if anybody plans on going?
Emily
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Being a music industry major at SUNY Oneonta has opened my eyes to the fact that if I remain in Watertown for the remainder of my life I may have to live devoid of a music scene. That is, unless I can bring one there in the future. I just want to say, assuming someone from the band catches this message, that were I closer to your shows I would go to everyone I could, and you have my support. Echo, your vocals are beautiful and are a very, very welcome change from today's spiraling music scene. It's good to see a group standing for something again, I thought that almost died with Rage Against the Machine. Thanks for the boost, con amor, Dev.
Devin Jon Spencer <TheEFV@hotmail.com>
Watertown, NY USA -

i don't think she tries to be anything like d'arcy actually, but that's just me.
stefanie
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I just bought the Start CD. I must say it is fantastic. It goes to show that there are still a lot of good band out there.
jimmyzee
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i dunt like abandoned pools. Why like them when they try to rip off another bands sound, and style *cough chick bass player whit blonde hair who trys so hard to look like d'arcy cough* but you have your own taste in music. I am seeing garbage on may 27th. cannot wait. then I am seeing theSTART when they tour in june, then on july11th i am seeing tool. Good tours this summer. =)
mia
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bleh, haven't gotten my 1234 ep yet. booo. i went and saw the garbage tour a few weeks ago, three times in two days cos i'm a lunatic... great show, and abandoned pools are actually a really really fantastic band if anybody is looking for new music to download - early pumpkins-ish, actually, and really great guitar stuff. but in any event i wore my theSTART shirt so woo. advertising. everybody should try to see garbage and/or abandoned pools, yes? yes. not like i didn't miss theSTART on the lineup, but the two are quite different. yes.
stefanie
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OH, ok man. well in that case, fucking A
kt
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sir puke, you lost the shit out of me...anyone going to ozomatli on mothers day??? i sure am, bye people!*******
-erika
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sir puke, yu lost the shit out of me...anoe going to ozomatli on mothers day??? i sure am, bye people!
-erika
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"...on your death bed you will recieve total consciousness. so i got that going for me, which is nice."

you know what i mean.. the slightly irregular subject matter, multiple uses of the word "fuck", suggested violence, the (some would say) negative connotations. not nearly as colorful an arrangement as what i've seen you write, but that's what it reminded me of. didn't mean anything bad by it, sorry if you took it that way. that's what i get for talking about shows on the devil box.
~sir puke~
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kt-esque? what the hell, man?
kt
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thanks everyone. got my dissertation in today (clocked in at 87 pages) so i can finally celebrate. my band are comign up to go out to rock city tomorrow night.

oh! that compilation album my band is on is out now. it's called pounded and also has the bouncing souls, mtx, ann beretta, bigwig, the sloppy meat eaters and whole load of other good bands on it.
kenickie
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did anybody ever watch that show family matters? some people called it "the urckle show" or however you spell that motherfucker's name. anyway, if you did, answer me this: when the fuck did little ritchie become an orphan and how did this take place? you remember little ritchie? no, not little richard. you know, aunt rachel's kid. bitch done got knocked up, had a kid, raises him at her sister's dysfunctional house and had a rather successful restaurant career. then one day they never fucking speak of her again. little ritchie still rides his goddamn three wheel through the kitchen all day and nobody wonders where his mother went. that's more than just a little odd. if you ask me that bitch of a grandmother fucking ate her alive. and do you think a kid like steve nerd-offspring-of-beelzebub would be able to pester laura winslow at school like that without getting slapped with some harrassment suspension? bullshit, how about a restraining order. you know the kids nothing but trouble. he'll probably end up working for the government one day.

ps, i just noticed how kt-esque that all sounded. sorry for the lack of originality, i just wondered if anybody else noticed little orphan ritchie.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Hey whats up fellow Heretics. I just wanted to inform you guys that The Show At 7 are playing May 19 at the Hogue Barmichaels in Newport Beach. 3950 Campus Drive. Doors open at 6 and its 7 bucks. If any R interested e-mail me or check us out at www.showat7.cjb.net Nothing hard core, don't let the flyer scare ya. Just good fun. thanx P.S. LOvE ya Echo.
OoO Omar OoO <Nemsis22@aol.com>
ca -

wOOOOOt!!! HAPPY Biiiiirrrrtthhhdddaaaayyy!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Amy
Oz -

I had this AWFUL dream last night where I went to see theSTART, but forgot to take my camera. Seriously, it scared the bejezzus out of me. :-p
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
dublin, ireland -

happy birthday tooooo youuuuu..... xoxox
echo
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*pops out of cake* Happy birthday! xo
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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happy birthday kenickie!!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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HHHHAAAAAPPPPPPPYYYYYYYY BBBBIIIRRRRRRTTTTTTHHHHDDDDAAAAAAAYYY!!! woooooooo!!
lauRa
oz -

it's my birthday today. yay me!
kenickie
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:o)
Metal Malcolm
UK -

oh. my. God. Is this real? theSTART AND Scarling??? I hope you guys make it out to NY or i'll be a sad sad girl. I cant get over of that idea. Aimee + Jessicka. Wow. this is going to be amazing!
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

oh YASSSSSSS!!! Roll on September!
Bronagh
dirty olde dublin, ireland -

i completley agree with fiona WWWOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHOOOOOOO. come on september!!! oooohhh oooohhh!
jen jen
manx, uk -

sounds good, great chik, feels free.
krusheki
mexiko -

i am going to cream my pants....hell yeah! can't wait to go...since i haven't gone in a while....aimee email me back babe!
-erika
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wooooohoooooo theSTART, scarling, and enemy!!!!!!!! i cant contain myself!!!!!! 3 times in southern california!!! this is wayyyy to much to handle! thank god for the amazing aimee, jeff, jamie, and scott!!!!!!!! you guys are the best!!!!!!
syndey
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haha...hii richard!! yayyy im gonna see thestart!! i miss them.
ellen
costa mesa, -

oh my GOD!!! i cant believe it..scarling and theSTART. why jesus why?? this is llike my dream come true. i might have to be follow this tour!!!!beter start saving all my money!
richard h <orgyfiend16@hotmail.com>
whittier, ca 90606 -

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!
Fiona
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OH yes there is read again..." RUMOURS OF A UK TOUR IN SEPTEMBER"
HCW
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bastard! i see no mention of headlining tour over here, i have also noticed the CD isnt even out over here yet! GOD DAM IT!! im gonna have to buy a plane ticket when i finish uni and go over the pond to see you guys! so there better be shows on in august or i'll have to kidnap you and make you do a gig just for me!....lv jen jen xxxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I can't fucking believe it. This is fucking orgasmic. theSTART/ENEMY/Scarling... all in one show... orgasmic!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

Hold on to your hoodies... announcing- drum roll please- The first headlining tour for theSTART with ENEMY and SCARLING as support!!!!! saw a tentative routing and dates and it is shaping up nicely....the tour will run from June 18th thru July 8th beginning in central CA and hitting the following cities: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lawrence KS, Oklahoma City, Austin, Dallas, Houston, El Paso, Albuquerque, Tucson, Phoenix, San Diego, Los Angeles, Anaheim. Cities are tentative. and get this...Talk of a tour from Minneapolis out to the EAST COAST and Back to Los Angeles through all of AUGUST after WARPED TOUR. and for SEPTEMBER there are RUMOURS OF A UK TOUR!!FINALLY!!This is the inside dirt and You hear it first. Keep your eyes open, It is all happenning....
Honourable Confounding Watermelon
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Kt~ I don't get what your beef is. I see you here talking about kids on the bbs like we don't come here. for the longest time I was allout anti-bbs for this band. But it does clean up this board. conversations like the ones you love to carry are easyer to take on the bbs. Unlike in here, it just seems like your ramblin. If anyone read the post on the whole manson trip... it's clear that you were sticking up for the guy when everyone was talking about how much of a sellout he is and a wash out as well. You defended him and what not... and when you saw that everyone get sick of hearing you, you started to agree with the board. Maybe I'm wrong I dunno. But I've read what I've read and that's all I see. Let's just drop this whole thing. Just remember... "We watch. And we are always there... we are legion for we are many."
Omar A. Morales <Fashionvictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

mis-spelling my name doesnt irritate me that much. just figure i should differentiate myself from other stefanies on the board. the new board is just silly because there are alot of little kids that post many posts dirrectly to aimee about dumb topics. many little girls have ventured from the no doubt board. im glad the fanbase is growing, but i still have my lil bitterness here n there.
steFanie.
chicago, -

thanx for the email human..i might try and go up to san fransico to see them there but i doubt that will happen..it would be soooo great if they did and headlining tour, do you think that will actually happen..youre email got me sooo excited to see them again..thanx again
carriee
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shit, i mean steFanie!!! oh my god, i'm SO SOORRRRRY! that must irritate the hell out of you.
kt
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LOL its funny i go over there and use my rather loose language to express my distaste of Marilyn Manson, namely a comment i think, about him needing immediate confinement and summary execution, and i got bitched at for basically what comes down to being politically incorrect. if fuckin' manson can do the shit he does and have all these people defending him, and even THEY don't want ME saying ANYTHING at ALL, then...then where's the fucking FUN in ANY of this!?!AAAAAAAH!
kt
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any post in particular, Stephanie?
kt
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Jen - No idea i'm afraid, as I'm not going, but Notts is pretty close, so if you need anywhere to crash, let me know. I'm sure there'll be buses or coaches running from here.

I got my new stuff yesterday. :o) Love the new e.p.. That's about all that can be said. It rocketh mucheth
Metal Malcolm
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I got my start stuff in the mail today too... I love the new songs soooooo much!!! wooooooooo!!
lauRRRRa
OZ -

the new board frightens me.
steFanie
chicago, -

WOO! I got ALL of my ordered stuff at once in the post this morning! That totally made my day! =D xo
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Hey! Does anyone know the contact details for the band? And, if the band plan on comming over to the UK at all? PEACE OUT x x x
Claire <cmitchellmusic@hotmail.com>
London, United Kingdom -

hey yall...

malcolm, i'm going ozzfest this year, i was wondereing if you knew the train station name thats near donnington park, cos i have no idea...cheers mate!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

hey guys I redid my aimee webpage please visit http://www.strato.net/~roberts/echo lots of neat info and pics a
aKb <felixrabbit82@hotmail.com>
fl -

LOL
kt
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actually, kt, that's exactly what happened. neat, huh?
~puke~
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you guys rock...echo is phuckin hot...head to the east
eS <beatjunkiez@hotmail.com>
wilm, nc u s a -

you puked. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEheheheheehahahahahaheehehaheehahehaheha...shit. no really, what did you do?
kt
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guess what i did when i got home last night.
~puke~
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Hey! Don't diss Air Guitar! The Instrument of the gods!!!

My only problem is that when I play air guitar, I tend to play the correct chords. This is bad.
Metal Malcolm
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streetteam?? Dude.. I talk about theStart so much and wear the symbol all the time that most of my classmates even knows the band. It's awesome~ Currently listening to -> Mindless Self Indulgence
Emily
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lit? ugh...their singer does air guitar like theres no tomorrow.
steFanie.
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hey everyone, i know probably most of you are west coasters, so you probably know Lit pretty well, those guys are great live and they are doing a big tour throughout the spring so make sure you check them out when they are in a town near you. APRIL 18 Univ. of Nebraska - Kearney, NE 19 Ranch Bowl - Omaha, NE 20 Pop's - Sauget, IL 22 Granada Theatre - Lawrence, KS 23 The Quest - Minneapolis, MN 24 The Rave - Milwaukee, WI 26 House of Blues - Chicago, IL 27 Bogarts - Cincinnatti, OH 28 The Odeon - Cleveland, OH 30 St. Andrews - Detroit, MI MAY 1 Club Laga - Pittsburgh, PA 2 SUNY Brockport - Rochester, NY 4 Birch Hill Club - Birch Hill, NJ 5 Poughkeepsie, NY - The Chance 7 The Webster - Hartford, CT 8 Axis - Boston, MA 9 Philadelphia, PA - Spectrum w/ Kid Rock - just added! 10 New York , NY - Madison Square Garden w/ Kid Rock - just added! 11 Washington, DC GMU-Patriot Center - w/ Kid Rock - just added 17 Jubilee Jam - Jackson, MS 18 Spring Break - Pensacola, FL 19 Earthlink Live - Atlanta, GA 21 Lincoln Theatre - Raleigh, NC 22 Ziggy�s - Winston Salem, NC 24 The Culture Room - Ft. Lauderdale, FL 25 Jannus Landing - Tampa, FL 26 House of Blues - Orlando, FL (co-headline w/Live) 27 Neptunes - Ft. Myers, FL 29 Grant Street Music Hall - Lafayette, LA 30 House of Blues - New Orleans, LA 31 Deep Ellum Live - Dallas, TX JUNE 1 Numbers - Houston, TX 2 Sunset Station - San Antonio, TX 4 Ogden Theatre - Denver, CO 5 Exscape - Salt Lake City, UT 7 Big Easy - Boise, ID 9 Graceland - Seattle, WA 11 Radio Show - Sacramento, CA 12 San Joaquin County Fair - Stockton, CA
Matt <beckstp1@aol.com>
MA USA -

the START rocks, come back to the east coast
Matt <beckstp1@aol.com>
Reading, MA USA -

Maybe not a street team but we have long had the "LEGIONS". Just never any "label" support (ie free cd's to pass out).....the band supports them however..... and whenever they are allowed to they have gotten them into shows etc on tour..and if we ever get promo help (Label $$) they are here! Meanwhile they use their own resources to spread the Gospel of theSTART!
more legions info go to the link- Legions
we are legion!
human <human@thestart.org>
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there's always krylon, too.
kt
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There is a street team, but due to the lack funds from big brother shit ain't goin down. This topic has been a dead horse for some time on the starts bbs. Flat out, the street team should be doing there own thing. Basicly the big guys are being paid to promote this band and they get kids like us to do the work for them.. for free! Long story short... if you want stuff to pass out, go to the shows. they have free stickers there, you can pick up a buttload and then pass them out on the street, at bus stops, and at your local bath house :)
Omar A. Morales <fashionvictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

you ARE the goddamn street team
kt
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....why isn't there a street team?
Shanna Lynn <wacker_babe@hotmail.com>
Morrison, IL USA -

I was wondering if The Start were going to appear on any more dates with the warped tour or if they were planning to come to st. louis
Jason <jassonme@yahoo.com>
florissant, MO United States -

Yeah, Layne's death has bummed me out, not because I ever expected them to reform, but just that there was always a chance. Dammit. Well, if the rest of them want to recruit me as a new vocalist.......I can play guitar too....

Human, Thanks, i'm mailing him now.
Metal Malcolm
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coal chamber split up but at least they're still at a capacity to make music...layne staley's death has completely bummed me out. i knew it was going to happen...i had casually remarked to a friend of mine recently about how it would be great to see a reunion, seeing how jerry cantrell and the boys have always said they'd love to tour as alice in chains again as soon as layne ever got his shit together. i told my friend that it was unlikely, and that chances were they'd probably someday find him alone, dead, his body finally having given up from the years of smack...
kt
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ha thank you puke.
steFanie
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I HEART the Start!!!
*JesSica* <ZealousStar@aol.com>
Sacramento, CA USA -

Okay, just so I can make sure I haven't screwed up here, I can't finish placing my order until my next credit card bill comes through, then I finish signing up for Paypal, and then I finish my order, yeah? Or have I completely screwed up?
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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Ahhhh, Its nice to see that Coal Chamber are back to their old ways again. I remember touring with them when they used to break up every night. Best of luck to them, I got a feeling they'll be back.
scott
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""Although no official confirmation has been released as of yet, it appears as though Coal Chamber have once again split up. The bands recent show in Lubbock, TX this past Wednesday was cut short around 4 songs in after tensions between band guitarist Meegs and band frontman Dez Fafara boiled over and Meegs allegedly hit Dez in the head with his guitar. This prompted Dez to walk off the stage only to return and announce that "this is the last coal chamber show ever," before once again leaving. The remaining members of the band tried to continue on with Meegs on vocals, however they quickly gave up and the set ended with band drummer Mikey trashing his drum set. Not surprisingly, the band were not present at last night's April 18th Oklahoma City stop of the tour and it was allegedly announced from the stage that the band had broken up and would not be performing on anymore of the dates. According to informed sources, heavy drug use and money issues are said to have played a big part in the blow up. Dez and Meegs are long rumored to have had a history of in fighting, a relationship which is said to have erupted into a fist fight that brought about the temporary split of the band at a June 2000 NY gig of the "No Home" tour, causing the group to cancel their stint on the Tattoo The Earth bill. The band then took some time off before eventually deciding to regroup. Despite their current situation, their upcoming new album "Dark Days" is still set for a May 07th release through Roadrunner/Island/Def Jam."" ~ from theprp.com
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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coal chamber broke up? arent they in the midst of touring? i thought rayna just left the band.
steFanie
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woo hoo! ep on its way. just a quick hi to everyone. i have been lurking for far too long. take care, hugs and kisses to all,
liesey
aaaaaustraliaaaaaa -

YAAAAAYYYY!!!!
Thankyou sooooo much Human!!!

I just ordered mine! wOOOOOt!!!
Amy
Oz -

yeah, and coal chamber broke up just to add to the grief in the air.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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i just heard that layne staley from alice in chains was found dead yesterday. how horrible. i was never hardcore into them, but another possible drug related death from a rockstar? its so morbidly cliche. i dont know what else to say. rather confused and frustrated. any thoughts? steF.
steFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -

just added
the 1234 EP to the START STORE!!!!
this is a Limited & Numbered edition!
You heretics get it FIRST!~!
human <human@thestart.org>
lacausa, -

hey guys, long time no see, i has been working my ass off at uni, trying to get a good enough grade to get my job at....EIDOS!!!! oh yes, that job is so mine, all i need to do is make my game the best game i can and get a distinction for it, and its mine!! HEEHEE!!!!

see you all later, malcolm, you know you can fone me and let me know your still alive!! ~chukkers girls~
jenjen
manchester, uk -

don't worry ericka, just when i thought they would never come, they got that spot opening for incubus...i'll never forget meeting them, that was a great night =)
riCKi
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Please do not forsake us out here in the middle of nowhere!
Ericka <myperfectworld2002@yahoo.com>
Tulsa, OK USA -

lol 30 seconds are just a teaser, hopefully the EP will be on the Merch soon and you all can snag yourself a copy
Maise <Maise@blackenedangel.com>
OC, CA USA -

those song clips were only 29 seconds, what a rip!
just kidding, thank you for posting those! they sound great =)
riCKi <shinedownunshy@hotmail.com>
houston, tx -

Any vague idea of when the EP will be available to buy online? *polishes credit card* Haw, I'm still running to check the post every morning for my shirt and stickers! I'm so sad, hehe.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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hahaa. thanks for the story, puke. you have a way with words...
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
PA -

*think. oops.
natalie
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First off, Maise you have a very rad site. and thanks for the lil bits of songs.
2nd. when when when is the ep going to be available online??
3rd. aimee. whaddya thing *about the email*??
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

Wow!!
You guys sound like you had an awesome time!!!!!

I wish I could have been there!!!!!!
Amy
Ozland -

For those that missed out on the fabulous show Wednesday night, and didn't get a chance to buy the "the 1234" EP, I put 30 second samples of the songs on the side of the chat room. http://www.blackenedangel.com/thestart/chat so you can hear a bit, let your friends hear it and get everyone to buy it!
Maise <Maise@blackenedangel.com>
OC, CA -

Who said I was "busting" on them, I just said it was funny. There's a difference...
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

To ease everyones brains... The show was taped. Just about every show they play theres a camera-man(woman; just for you picky people). I was supposed to get hooked up with a show the last time I ran into the camera guy(and yes this is a guy filming it) but I never got it. *shrugs* Oh well, no skin off my back. But dude if your out there, my b-day is coming up! What ever happend to the tape of me singin at the vidie shoot??? Anyway. I wouldn't know about the kids not knowing the words. I was on stage too but I was in the back next to Jamie. Yall shouldn't bust on the kids for not knowing the words anyway. We were there to dance and that was it. Hell, here's two kool-aid points for those who knew the lyrics and here's one for those that tried but boogied that buns off anyway! Rock On rock'n'roll kids!
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

hey!!!! this is becky the girly drummer from the up & hopefully coming band eStRoGeN!!!!!!! i just wanted to say ...i LOVE THIS BAND!!!!! i love aimee!!!!!!!!!but not just her!! the other guys too!!!!!! maybe one day i will meet u 4 wonderful people! keep making great music. love becky
becky mc fly <becky005@aol.com>
pico rivera , ca u.s -

aimee echo is my GODDESS:>:>:>:> ROCK ON..
Don Neal <venom_107@hotmail.com>
everett, wa usa -

... they didnt know the lyrics to shakedown? lol I wish someone recorded the show, thatd be funny to see =)
Mia
fresno, -

The show was great last night. I thought it was funny that half the people on the stage didn't know the words to Shakedown and were trying to sing along! But it was a very fun night with kick ass bands.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

something went terribly wrong last nite. after my limo showed up and my handlers were moving everyone out of my way so i could get out of there it had completely slipped my mind that i didn't get a goddamn ep. and the "hi flyer" song was a different song than i thought it was. there's another new song, it probably doesn't have a name. i'll try and describe it and maybe somebody who wrote it might understand and shed a little light on this poor dim soul. scott does 4 stick clicks and the guitar comes in. sounded like it had a little delay, kindof u2-ish chord progression. 4-4 time i believe. there's a little bass synth (which might be hard to do now) and it has this real ambient sound to it, especially in the choruses. i have no clue what any of the words are but aimee sings her ass off. there's all these vocal swells in the chorus that sound like eerie hollow vowel sounds. this is the only way i can describe this song and it was the best one i heard of the new new stuff. maybe someone knows what the hell song it is.

okay, the show itself ... it went really well. if i remember the set list correctly it was nemesis, melt, hang on me, time, the 1234, big shot, hi flyer, glimmer man, gorgeous, and shakedown. i think i'm missing a song between melt and hang on me. so the show went like a typical show only with seemingly less problems than ususal. they were starting shakedown when dan "the man" schartoff suggested that they do the "breed" cover (nirvana). jamie was the only one who knew that shakedown wasn't the last song. i go to take (or leave) a much needed piss and i come back and there's a bajillion people dancing on the goddamn stage (i would be told later that someone had asked aimee if he could come up and dance on stage during shakedown. she had agreed and, when the time came, he jumped up there and the whole front row followed him). i look at dan like "what the fuck is going on?" and then the end of the song comes. i'm not quite sure what happened because there were too many people to see thru but as far as i could tell jeff thought he was in the clash and started going ape shit. all i see is his synth go flying off stage left and his bass flying every other direction. he obviously had no idea that there was another song to do. so, surprisingly enough, after i pull his bass out from it's final resting place behind his cabinet, everything was still in tact and just needed a quick tuning. the synth, on the other hand, had a couple keys busted and was rattling like a maraca. good thing he didn't need it for breed, which totally kicked ass of course. and there you have it. i'm not going to go into what the fuck everyone was wearing because that's lame.
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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The show fucking rocked!!! *shakes it* I can't believe we got to dance with the start! Take that Troubador security! I posted the 1234 E.P. photo cover on the bbs. Check it out. Keep on rockin and keep on dancin.. even if you do have the now and then party foul(breakin keyboards.. I didn't do it!) ~Guy with the make-up on~
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

Well, I was not there due to the car breaking down and me not having another way of getting there. james and i literally had to walk home. so whoever did go, please post something. I was pretty upset over the fact that i spent 36$ on two tickets (hate ticketmaster) and am not sure if the band sees any of that money .. i hope they do. anyway, hope everyone had fun.
Mia
Fresno, -

hello heretics. tonight i assume everyone in and around L.A. that digs theSTART are at the show. so my midwest ass isnt going to pout...i just want details about the show. take care. steF.
steFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -

So...new ep huh?....hmmm....somehow I think i'll be ordering that.... :D
Metal Malcolm
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Well, Aimee answered a few questions last week. You can check it out here : http://www.lapinbleu.ch/music Did I mention it was in French? Hope to see The Start in Europe soon...
Lebiche
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A french fan? Absolument!
Lebiche <lebiche@hotmail.com>
Nancy, xxx France -

Omar the EP is going to be $5 and I will miss you down in front if you don't come... you and Anthony are always front and center! I guess we'll miss Anthony too... send him my love. At least come early and hang out... Jamie is playing drums with Enemy, so anyone who wants to see him play drums again should get there early!
echo
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Scarling has shirts at their site now.
natalie
ny -

Hey everyone i'm in the simple little hell hole of Texas wondering who else will be at the Warped Tour when they come to Dallas in june? I need to find some common heretics to share the orgasmic show with. Email me. -megzie
Megzie <CaramelRockstar@aol.com>
Rowlett, TX USA -

ps. stephanie. i feel yr pain
natalie
ny -

WOO HOO more start mooosick. rockin.
AIMEE -- check yr email please! i love you :o)

If anyone cares and lives in New YORK. Jonah is playing a show with ONELINEDRAWING tomorrow night (4/9). OLD is set to go on at about 10:30. They're playing at Brownies on Ave A.
natalie
ny -

so this "hi flyer" song wouldn't happen to be ... you know, that one that hasn't gotten played live yet, is it? coz if it is, it's really good. not that the other new stuff isn't, in fact, i like it better. the last album was good but i honestly like the new songs more. and if there aren't like twenty hit singles off the next album i'm getting my tattoo removed. or at least turned into something else, like a diagram of the cataract or whatever. (you know i'm joking)
and about the east coast and everybody else who hasn't had as much of a chance to meet theStart as everybody from their area has, there really isn't much that could be done about it. there's been a million and a half times that i've called into a radio station like mad trying to get tickets for some show. then they come back from commercial with the winner who's like "oh, i won? cool. knac rocks er something." and i'm screaming at the radio because some unappreciative fuck just won and i didn't. but i'm gonna see dio, the scorpions, and deep purple when they come through and nothing will stop me! noting! maybe they'll play some old rainbow songs. fuck yes!!
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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I am going. Peesh! And if I had the money I would buy 50 copies and give them you and Mike hahaha but see youre lucky you have garbage on my birthday =P
Mia
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damn you people who are just like 'OH YEAH I'VE SEEN THESTART SO MANY TIMES THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL EVEN SHOW UP THIS TIME; I JUST WANT THE EP.' if i was in the same situation as you people, i would have seen theSTART 2356547764353235 times and i would totally be going back for more. and i would have fifty copies of that ep. and i'd like it. east coast gets no love.
stefanie
philadelphia, -

Aww Omar, you have to make it to the show! The show is only 8$ and you can find out the cd price at the show... come on! Support theSTART ... pleeeease?
Mia
Fresno, CA -

Is there any one out there that has a freggin clue on how much this ep is ganna cost??? I have yet get even get a ticket to this show... I just might stop by just for the ep if I don't have enough dough. Please some one fill me in here!!!
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

except i posted the wrong page. fuck. this is the right one.
kenickie
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thought i might post the artwork from a page of my comic so you can see the t-shirt one of the characters is wearing... ;)
kenickie
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The Show on April 10th at the Troubadour will be a CD release party!!!! TheSTART will release their new 3 song EP- "the 1234 EP" They will be selling it at the show. It will be in the online store shortly...support
hcw
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im off to see no doubt in a few...theres a little bit of sadness in me that theSTART wont be opening. after all that talk. ive heard the faint are really good though. the midwest has got to enjoy what we've got. bye all.
steFanie
chicago, -

AIMEE - the guys in Finch say hi to all, and they miss you, especially alex ;)
i wore my theSTART shirt to the show last night and alex and randy both talked on and on about you guys, it made me so happy!
well they just wanted me to tell you hi for them, and mail me whenever you get the chance...it's been awhile =(

xoxo
Ricki
RiCKi <shinedownunshy@hotmail.com>
houston, tx -

Still no word of a European tour yet? Very sucky. XoXoX Fray
Fray <Ebow316@aol.com>
Manchester, UK -

Hey would you all that are going to the Troub. Show go post on the other site under the topic "roll call" Please. thanks
hcw
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...that kind of smart-alecky comment makes you more of a square than a cube. yeeeaaaaaaa sure my ASS. Fiona knows i speak the truth, right sweetie? there is a fucking difference. a stark and very prevalent one, between subversive culture and utter bullshit.
kt
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yeeeaaaaa........."and not like COOL satan...but like...the REAL fucking devil"....sure
cube
Hell-A, CA USA -

KT - you crack me up!
Fiona
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"bottled" him? i just wanna hit him really hard with something, stand over him while he whines about how i fucked up his makeup or whatever, and tell him his music is the work of satan. and not like COOL satan like slayer but like...the REAL fucking devil. the one who gives us such generous portions of debilitatingly awful hacks, like Mushroomhead or Drowningpool, or Otep. LOL...Otep...oh, shit...
kt
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Puke! Dude! Where have you been! Good to see you back.

Oh, and KT, I know someone that bottled Andrew WK at one of his shows. Apparently he didn't mind. Make of that what you will.
Metal Malcolm
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holy shit!!! this ANDREW WK is coming to austin!!! who wants to go beat the shit out of their singer with me? i'm not kidding about this! we can swing by the venue when they leave and clock him over the head with a golf club...
kt
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woah puke is alive and kicking. glad to have you back!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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"the truth? as you'd like to hear it? you can't afford me." ~ keith moon

so did everyone have a lovely new year's on sunday night? i know i did. a person told me that it was also easter on that day, is that true? those crazy christians, always changing shit around. god love 'em. so if all this enemy stuff goes well maybe revenge of the triads (which i think has something to do with legend of zelda ... oh, no that was triforce. sorry) will have room for theStart on their tour this summer/fall. maybe charlie clouser will end up doing a nemesis remix or something. anywho, i really dont have anything to talk about. glad to be back. big ups to all mah homies. word.
~puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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Mellowdrone will be opening the show "early" Wed.
scott
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Now if only any of your 72 friends who actually do happen to like the cdR will go out a buy an ACTUAL copy. Geesh. Couldnt you only burn like 4 songs or something instead of the whole so if they wanted more they would have to buy the album?
Mia
fresno, ca -

I am back. Once again in my quest to make people wake the hell up, I have sent 72 burned copies ( I hope nobody is offended by that as that can be construed as hurting the Starts profit)of "Shakedown" to my friends across the country. That's no shit! As a matter of fact, the next issue of ShortBus (due out on April 23rd) has a review of the Scratch 8 show and a CD review of Shakedown. Also our website (www.shortbusmEgazine.com) will be up here in about two weeks and in the interviews section, has an interview with Aimee from issue #3. We also had the fine pleasure of interviewing Tommy Chong, Pauly Shore, Tiffany (but she didn't take her clothes off for us like she did for Playboy) and coming up we have Les Claypool and Kid Rock in June. Anyways, that's enough of my shameless self-promotion. You guys and gals take care and stop buying Bon Jovi records.
Chris Acosta <shortbus1313>
Sacramento, CA USA -

maybe my mom can drop me off at your house or something on wednesday erika umm...e-mail me!!
Emi32585 <emi32585@aol.com>
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you guys are handsome young devils. i like your band alot. happy birthday aimee
jonathan <mellowdrone@mellowdrone.com>
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hey *STARTERS* whos going to the show next wed. at the Troub.?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, Ca USA -

yes emily let us do this shit---and yes plucky! warpedtour baby..and east la sabor factory on the 7th, hahaha!
-erika
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Just caught the Start at Scratch 8 here in Sacramento the other night after having caught them at The Troubadour in Hollywood a few months ago. If this band doesn't make it huge, I'll burn all of my Hanson CD's (oops, did I say that?)Anyways, I am the Northern Cal editor of Short Bus Megazine which is a humor/music mag with an ultimate goal to have every Starbucks Coffee on earth get shut down (and the one rumored to be built on the moon. I was turned onto the Start by Jenn down there in Palmdale who is the SB Editor of our southern branch and I am now going out of my way to get as many souls turned onto this band as possible. If any of you have any questions or comments, just e-mail me and I shall see you at the Warped Tour. Peace.
Chris Acosta <shortbus1313@hotmail.com>
Sacramento, CA, CA USA -

bronagh, got back on wednesday, had a goodish time!

so, how are you all these days, got my stuff i ordered and its great, dunt fit but nevermind, i cant be arsed sending it back to get a smaller one, i'll stick it in the wash and shrink it, i'm good at doing that!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

theSTART chat is taking place today info below:
http://www.blackenedangel.com/thestart/chat/

thats the site address just go in there and use the name you use on the board, you dont have to sign up for anything. The chat is at 3:30pm for those on PST (Ca, and so on) and 6:30pm on EST (Ny, and so on). This is so all the fans can get together in real time and talk to each other. And if members of theSTART are reading this you are more than welcome to participate if you feel like coming in. Hope to see you all there!
Mia
Fresno, CA usa -

hey eRiKa! whats up everyone else, yeah the warped tour is coming up.are you gonna go erika? i wanna & i think i am ,but yeah.but is it true that theStart is gonna play at the warped tour.. fuckin bigh ead joe told me..soo i'll see you laters peoples
plucky
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Damn jen, you're back from Dublin already?
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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the song is titled "the 1,2,34" and its a new song which I dont think has leaked to the internet yet. Its going to be on their next album release.
Mia
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hey, I was at the show at Scratch 8 last nite, when they played a song, and Amiee said it was called "1,2,3,4" and I can't find it, can anyone help me out??
thehippkid <thehippkid@rcsis.com>
Roseville, CA -

does anyone out there happen to have a copy the Circles advance cd? there was songs on there that did not make to Shakedown......i'd like to get a hold of them. if anyone in Wonderland can get me a burned copy of this, i would pay them for it. thanks
Russ <thefoolsdevotion@aol.com>
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Erika when is your spring break?? my spring break starts on the 8th. Are you going to the april 10th show?? wanna go together?? e-mail me emi32585@aol.com later babe
Emily
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woohoo we're back! IS anyone going to go watch--east la sabor factory tomorrow?????? I AM :)!
-erika
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Wow! the Start was grrrrrrrreat last night @ Scratch. I think I creamed my pants when Amiee came out. Hehe. J/K, but I was very excited. :D Good show, jolly good show!!!
*JesSica* <ZealousStar@aol.com>
Sacramento, CA -

hot damn. i got my stuff today! it feels like xmas. =D
stace.
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Nope, I haven't received my order yet. So bad..since I'm so impatient.
stacey <stacey@deaddesire.org>
charleston, -

silly technology...i came here to anounce my happines with recieving my tshirt and the speakout had vanished! welcome back forum. has anoy out else recieved their orders from theSTART store?
SteFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -

Phew..and there was me thinking my PC was screwed. Glad it's all working again.
Metal Malcolm
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what the hell happenend? i go away for a week with no internet an then get back and everything is buggered...hope you all are keeping well, speak later lv jen xxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Yay! Back up again. Woohoo.
Mia <blueamphetamine@hotmail.com>
Fresno, CA -

glad that we're back up and running. i nearly had to resort to the forum. nearly...
liesey
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we're baaaaack...... (sorry if your post got lost.....there was a disturbance in the force)......
human <human@thestart.org.>
LA, CA -

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