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Okay, firstly, everyone CHILL THE FUCK OUT!
Secondly, I know there's good intentions and all, but if people are gonna post huge things like that, can they at least put them into paragraphs? It hurts my eyes otherwise.
Thank you.
Metal Malcolm
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i really like yall very much
Brandon <brosback@hotmail.com>
RICHMOND, VA -
yes, come COME erika. so i will not be alone. we can talk about just how phenomenal minutemaid orange soda can be sometimes...unless question mark has a whiny, redundant, hate-the-government problem with that one, too. shit.
kt
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jesus CHRIST!! it was just as FUCKING BAD BEFORE THEY DID!!!!
kt
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-cue wishful thinking- It'd be absolutely amazing if theSTART were to support the Chili Peppers at their gig here in June...*sigh*
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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when is theSTART show???? he he he--when do the tickets go onsale? thanks...kt i'll go with you! freeze my cunt off...how kewl!
-erika
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Fifteen flights were delayed and about a thousand passengers re-screened Tuesday morning at Louisville International Airport in Kentucky after a security screener was discovered asleep at his post. thank god the federal government took over airport security, they're doing a great job
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you'll have better luck cutting off your nuts and waiting for a comet to come take you away, or i could probably find plenty of other things for people to piss away money on. i can't believe you would even mention a crock of shit like the artemis project where someone could link your name to it.
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i wasnt TALKING ABOUT NASA. NASA is dead. NASA was nothing more than a PR tool created during the cold war that has become obsolete. i'm talking about PRIVATE. i'm talking about the Artemis Project or some shit. no matter what, i probably wont be able to get away from the likes of your ass
kt
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Hi all! I havent posted in forever - hospital, then moving, then starting a new year of uni. I hope everyone had a brilliant V Day where ever you were. Take care all...
Liesey <echokittie@hotmail.com>
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Excitement for the upcoming show. It's taking over me. I am having spaz attacks everywhere. Well, one of my multiple hearts is at least...heh. Amaaaaaaanda and Scott...you 2 kiddies know what I'm talkin about!
Linds <kandyraz0r@aol.com>
North Hollywood, CA -
please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/declaration.asp Help stop the raid on our natural heritage. Sign the Declaration of Energy Independence...
http://www.savebiogems.org/declaration.asp <http://www.savebiogems.org/declaration.asp>
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oh, wait...the us already have plans for that place as well (damn you just can't get away...)______________________________________________ Definitive answers may not be possible for another decade, however. NASA scientists had proposed sending a spacecraft called the Europa Ice Clipper to the moon in 2001, but the mission was scrapped due to lack of funding. The Europa Orbiter mission, scheduled for launch in 2008, is currently under consideration. This spacecraft would include instruments such as an ice-penetrating radar that could see through the ice to any ocean below.
sorry
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it would kinda be like a cross between chilly willy and waterworld (without kevin costner...so that a plus) let me know how it turns out
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jesus christ! i think i'm going to build a space ship with some of those solar sails and fly to europa. LOL then maybe ALL you motherfuckers on the right AND the left will sound that much farther away
kt
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what happens if there ends up being oil there...the usa will come start a war with you, bomb the crap out of you and rape your country. all this while it tells america a bunch of propaganda BS on why they had to take this action against your people...
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who wants to come with me to antarctica? im gonna get some cash together and go down there and make me my own country. anyone wanna come? all we gotta do is march down there and stick a flag in the ground and say its ours. whaddayall SAY!!?!?
kt
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goddammit. i come here to get away from that kind of stuff. hours and hours of broadcast radio and televion news throughout my day is plenty. ah well...i will go and...sit in the corner now
kt
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I'm sorry if that brought you down, lets try talking about homeland security and our governments energy program ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------WASHINGTON – Backed up by Native American leaders from across the country, Alaska’s Gwich’in people assailed the Bush administration Feb. 11 for scheming to turn over to greedy oil companies their ancestral lands in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). A standing room crowd packed a conference room in the Methodist Building here as the Gwich’in leaders appealed for an outpouring to block the plan to drill in the 1.5 million-acre ANWR, a threat to the calving grounds of the 130,000 caribou in the Porcupine River herd that are the mainstay of their diet and culture. Drilling in the ANWR was high on the list of priorities set out by Vice President Dick Cheney’s Energy Policy Task Force. Bush and Cheney have invoked “executive privilege” to keep the proceedings of the Energy Task Force secret in the current Senate hearings on Enron. “Our ancestors have lived with the caribou for generations beyond time,” said Jonathan Solomon, chairman of the Gwich’in Steering Committee (GSC). GSC spokesperson Sarah James added, “The coastal plain is vital to our caribou. We call their calving ground ‘The Place Where Life Begins,’ and we cannot allow it to be ruined by oil drilling.” James opened the conference by singing a prayer song about protecting the millions of endangered wildlife that thrives in the ANWR. Present in the crowd were leaders of many Native American, human rights, environmental and religious groups. Dune Lankard, a commercial fisherman and executive director of the Eyak Preservation Council on Alaska’s Prince William Sound, said crude oil from the Exxon Valdez spill continues to foul the once pristine waterway 13 years after the disaster. “Enron and the Bush administration are creating their energy plan behind closed doors with no transparency,” he said. “We should be able to pull the plug on that plan and start over. We need to dream big and take control of this energy question. Oil companies are the highest subsidized, most profitable, least taxed of any corporations.” Instead of bowing to their greed, he said, Congress should approve a plan like California’s, which reduced energy consumption 15 percent through energy conservation. Tom Goldtooth, executive director of the Indigenous Environmental Network (IEN) based in Bemidji, Minnesota, said, “Bush’s energy plan does not provide homeland security to the Gwich’in ... The plan is at the expense of the human rights of Indigenous peoples, not only the Gwich’in, but the Western Shoshone Nation in Nevada, who are opposed to the U.S. government’s and the nuclear industry’s planning to use Yucca Mountain as a dump site for this country’s high level nuclear waste.” He urged an outpouring of solidarity “to stop this axis of evil – oil industries and governments – who work together, expanding their oil frontier, destroying forests, wetlands, coastal plains, habitat, water quality, and are being a factor in climate change and global warming. The American public must stop this act of colonial terrorism by Bush and Cheney against a people that just want to be left alone to live in peace.” Robby Romero, leader of the rock band Red Thunder, said he had visited the Gwich’in lands on the Arctic North Slope. He blasted the right-wing dominated Congress for its Patriot Energy Act, which includes drilling in the ANWR as a main provision. “They are doing a snow job on the American people with this act that threatens our people. It has nothing to do with ‘national security.’ This act is a crime,” Romero said. Chuck Burrows, leader of a Native Hawaiian environmental group, put beautiful leis around the necks of many in the crowd. He said he has appealed to Hawaiian Senator Daniel Akaka, a Democrat, to reverse his support for drilling in the ANWR. Jackie Johnson, executive director of the National Congress of American Indians (NCAI), said it is “lack of economic opportunity” that forces indigenous peoples sometimes to take positions inconsistent with their cultures and long-term economic self-interests. “We still struggle with the lack of jobs,” she said. “I grew up in a subsistence culture like many others here.” The NCAI strongly supports the struggle of the Gwich’in people to stop the oil drilling and protect their ancestral lands. Pat Sweetsir, a Tanana chief and leader of a consortium of 42 Alaska tribes, pointed out that 95 percent of Alaska’s arctic north slope is open for drilling, with hundreds of spills severely damaging the permafrost. He debunked the image of the oil corporations as benefactors. “Even though the Prudhoe Bay pipeline runs through their land,” he said, “a gallon of gasoline costs $4 and a gallon of heating oil costs $3, highest in the nation.”
American Indians
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jesus christ that bums me out. too weighty for me right now. i'm not very anti-government at this early in the morning. gimme another two hours or so. lets talk about whats going on over there on that 16 acre property in georgia right now. THAT is fucked up, i'll tell you what... go-od bless a-mer-ica, my hoooome sweeeeeeet hooooooooooome
kt
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Author: Terrie Albano and Judith LeBlanc People's Weekly World Newspaper, Feb 16, 2002 “Why did they bomb us? Why did they do this?” asked Afghan civilians captured and beaten in two nights of raids in Oruzgan by U.S. military forces Jan 24. They were released this week and told their story to The New York Times. The local police chief and members from the government disarmament commission were sleeping in the district headquarters when it was attacked resulting in 21 killed and 27 being taken captive. Prisoners were punched, kicked, tied up and walked on as they pleaded, “We are friends!” The new government of Afghanistan had to intervene to get the prisoners released. Judith McDaniel, national director of American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) Peace Building Unit, told the World, “I hope people read the story and read it carefully ... The kind of absolute permission that Bush has given himself to create violence and respond with violence to almost any situation, which he perceives as threatening is being mimiced by the men in the military.” Scott Lynch, communications and membership director for Peace Action, said, “Obviously these incidents are a probably just a fraction … of atrocities and tragedies that have been incurred. As we get further into the conflict, the truth inevitably makes its way out.” Civilian casualties “couldn’t be ignored,” said Marc A. Herold, in a telephone interview with the World. On Dec. 10, Herold, a professor at the University of New Hampshire, rocked the world with a report on civilian casualties in Afghanistan. Herold, who collected information from international sources, put the Oct. 7-Dec. 6 death toll at 3,767. He said that it would have been hard for the U.S. media to ignore his report after it was picked up by German, Canadian and British media, including Der Spiegel, the BBC and The Toronto Globe and Mail. Reports of Afghan civilian casualties from U.S. bombings emerged as early as Oct. 21, 2001, two weeks after they began. Pentagon officials and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld consistently denied or dismissed these reports as “enemy propaganda.” “The military knows they’ll get pummeled about issues relating to civilian casualties, and they don’t have a clue how to address it in a nonpropagandistic way,” William H. Arkin, a former army intelligence analyst who is military adviser to Human Rights Watch, told the Times, “The subject ties them in knots … and they avoid it.” Herold, a professor of economics, conducted the study for a chapter in an anthology, Sept. 11 and the U.S. War: Beyond the Curtain of Smoke, to be released this month. Herold said the revelations of the Jan. 24 massacre, along with a changed atmosphere, make it “acceptable politically to question the Pentagon.” Although sometimes his sources are questioned as “unreliable,” Herold rejects these charges adding that he read regular reports from the Associated Press who hired Afghani and Pakistani journalists inside Afghanistan and on the borders. “Are they saying the only truth comes through the American lens?” Herold asked. When asked about Bush’s State of the Union address, calling for more spending for hi-tech weaponry because it saves lives, Herold said, “Smart weaponry is more precise, but you have to put technology in context. When you decide to drop 500-1,000 bombs weighing 2,000 pounds in urban or village settings you have to know that you are going to kill people.” The Pentagon’s claim that civilians were “unintended” victims is a murky one. “Did the military consciously bomb civilians?” Herold said. “No. But, many targets are questionable military targets. When a tractor is strafed and bombed is that a military target? When a convoy of fuel trucks is systematically bombed, its drivers killed, are they military targets? Fuel is needed for hospitals, too.” Herold predicted that a legal case will eventually charge there were unconscionable attacks on civilians. He said the civilian toll has been systematically kept from the American public, but was hesitant to predict public reaction when the truth comes out. “People are fundamentally good,” Herold said. He hoped the public would exert a restraining influence on the Bush administration. “Among the students on campus here was a real discomfort to responding to the violence of Sept. 11 with more violence or curtailment of civil liberties,” he said. When asked how can the direction of the Bush administration’s policies be changed, Christy Ringore, communications director of the United States Students Association (USSA), told the World, “Our students are of the opinion that to be patriotic means keeping our government accountable. And means having a serious debate about what is happening to our country today ... We have to make sure that our legislators know that because they won an election it doesn’t make them an autonomous group and for them to stop working in conjunction with the people who voted them in.” AFSC’s McDaniels says that coalitions like the National Coalition for Peace and Justice are discussing, “what do we mean by security, are we talking about more missles and better missles or are we talking about healthcare for every person in this country or the security of our jobs?” Ringore told the World about USSA’s coaliton efforts, “The National Youth and Student Peace Coalition work is extremely important because we are doing something that none of us could do alone.” The coalition along with many other peace groups are sponsoring a national march on Washington on April 20. Tens of thousands are expected to attend. Lynch said, “There is a core of folks who may initially have supported military action. Their numbers are going to drop as [the Bush administration] widen the war. And people see the cynical use of the “war on terrorism” to further the pre existing rightwing agenda of the Bush administration which has been tax cuts for the rich and the corporations, Star Wars, and expansion of the Pentagon budget.” >The authors can be reached at talbano@pww.org and jleblanc@pww.org
Truth <Truth emerging: Human toll in Afghanistan>
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Thank you so much for the info Maria! I'm supposed to be leaving L.A. on the 2nd, but I'm going to try like hell (finances permitting) to stay an extra day for the show.
Jennifer
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Thanks Maria! That helps me tremendously- good luck on your gig-
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
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thanks maria!..do you know the number to call up the roxy for tickets?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
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the Roxy show is $10 + 2 drink minimum.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, ca usa -
RYAN!!! from anaheim, take the 57 and hook up to the 10 fwy (20mins). exit onto Grand Ave North.(towards mountains). Make a right on Foothill blvd. pass a few lights. turn left onto Glendora ave. go straight. About the end of downtown is Sweet Daddy's on the right side.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, Ca usa -
Does anyone have ICQ?
Fiona
London, UK -
Well I took Valentines day off, because I had a shitload of stuff to do, and I couldn't stomach seeing so many people. Thinking of changing my course. Everythings a bit mad at the moment. Jen, i'd love to come up soon, but I really don't know what's going on, and I can barely afford food, never mind a train. As soon as I can though, i'll be there...maybe next month? And congratulations on the engagement. :o)
Kenickie - Have fun man....I can't think what you could possibly be doing. ;o) Say hi to her from me!
Metal Malcolm
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You are all invited to join "Support The Start" a Yahoo club dedicated to promoting The Start. It is support_the_start under groups. If you cant figure it out just send me and e-mail and i'll help you out!
Liz <bluemondayy@hotmail.com>
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FUCK valentines. today is NICK HATES EVERYBODY day
kt
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hey guys, sorry i havent posted for ages, been a bit busy moving house and getting engaged to my girl. malc - when you coming up i want u to meet rach fone me and let me know
love you all bye for now xxxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -
im not a weirdo!!!! im plucky.well yup Save Ferris is having a show im super happy.but that that sux fuckin NOFX sold out.grrr oh well, next time.but yup HAPPY VALENTINES peoples.hopefully you have a pleasant day and get yo bitches to buy you candy or all that crazy crap out there.oohh....taka taka psss psss
plucky
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ellen- i shall see you at the show for sure!!!!! I CAN"T WAIT! HAPPY VDAY ya'll!
-erika
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Awesome picture of Scarling in this months AP check it out. www.scarling.com
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -
Did you ever feel like you wished things were different because they already are? lol Valentine's Day what ifs suck!!!
Yekaterina <katedes@hotmail.com>
NY -
Finale, some news on E N E M Y. I thought they dropped off this planet. Damn, it would have been so cool if ENEMY also played the Roxy with theSTART.That would be off the hook.I'm gonna try my best to go, but it depends how much the show cost. Because I spent my money on tickets to see Lunarclick on the 28th.If the tickets are the right price, then I hope to go to both.
Professor_White <thesimpletreatment@hotmail.com>
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i forgot! new picture! click on my name.
kenickie
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woo! i'm off to LA in a matter of hours (well, via san fransisco). don't all misbehave without me.
kenickie
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Jamie, You're drumming for Enemy? Nice.....anyone else remember way back when all those snot fans were complaining that you didn't drum anymore. Where are they now huh? :)
Metal Malcolm
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How much is the show on the 2nd going to cost? And is it all ages?
Jennifer
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AHHHH....thank you for telling!! I'm def gonna be there!!!!
ellen
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TheSTART will be playing Saturday March 2nd At the ROXY in West Hollywood with PHANTOM PLANET.So all you fly mutha*&ckas get on out there and dance- DANCE I SAID!
hcw
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The START are playing in San Diego at the Casbah Feb 23rd. It is a benefit for the American Heart Association. Also playing will be ENEMY- featuring Troy Van Leeuwen(APerfectCircle/ Failure)on guitar, Eddie Nappi(HAndsome)on Bass, and Jamie Miller (thestart)playing the drums.
hcw
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Maria I am also doing a show at Sweet Daddy's Coffee Lounge but on March 8th. Do you know exactly where it is?
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -
**sorry** ok, mistake. i accidently gave you all access to my email account. please don't go through it or mess it up. i feel really dum right now.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
***more shameless self promotion*** DAMNATION with another acoustic set & Head Lite View playing live @ Sweet Daddy's Coffee Lounge in downtown Glendora, CA. Time: 9:00 Price: Free OF COURSE!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, ca usa -
so The Faint are good? there playing with No Doubt. i don't have tickets gonna have to support a scalper...ahhhhhh!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
Happy Birthday natalie!!!
lauRa
oz -
*dies* what about deftones breaking up? they just started writing or recording.... or so i thought...
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
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happy birthday to me. happy birthday to me. happy birthday dear meee-eee. happy birthday to me.
How is everyone?? Human! I miss you!
natalie
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i think that the start should play in L.A...like at a small club...alot. those are always the best. i heard that Jamie is in a band with some snot members...something like that, but i havent come across too much info on that. if anyone knows anything about it...please email me. thanks!
Ani <rgagnstm@hotmail.com>
Los Angeles, ca -
I haven't posted in awhile. School rocks (alot of projects) I can't wait for Warped Tour, I am really digging the Bad Religion disk (I love those guys) and I'm always around when theStart plays a gig. Happy Valintines to all the women. Much love to all. Timothy
Timothy Teasley <fiercecircle@aol.com>
Buena Park, CA U.S. -
aimeeeeeee....jamieeeee....jefffffff...scottttttt... come back to chicago...we can hang out again...oh i know you remember me..weezer and incubus shows--brown kid with the long hair...eh? eh?...the kid aimee wanted..hah ehhhhhhh.. yea but come back...fasttt
Sami Ahmed <korovaproduct@hotmail.com>
Chicago, IL USA -
and the warped tour! wooohoo.
ellen
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I'm gonna see thefaint march 1st..i can't wait!!
ellen <fiendfeme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -
that's funny kt!!!! very funny!
-erika
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maybe i should just start asking it more often. even at things that make perfect sense...
kt
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HEY!!! what the fucks THAT supposed to mean!?!?
kt
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I'd like this recorded. KT asked someone else what they were talking about. A first I think. Having had most of the week off, I now realise I have practically no chance of making it through this year of Uni. I got my first semester results yesterday and they were horrible. I'm probably gonna get chucked out. I feel really really shit. Any suggestions on how to cheer myself up? I need them....
Metal Malcolm
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Hey everyone... had the great pleasure of seeing The Faint live last night - was a one-off UK show for the NME. They were excellent! anyway hope you are all well
Fiona
London, UK -
kt---my friend is a wack-O!!! taka taka psss psss--is something that we do when we are practicing with the drums, it's a weird story i tell you! Dude- i passed my test! save ferris--hell yeah! of course i am going to warped, and h20 this weekend! WARPED TOUR IS GONNA RULE!!!!!!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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oh, wait. nevermind...
kt
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......WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!
kt
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taka taka psss psss...GET DOWN!!!!!!!!
plucky
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taka taka psss psss...GET DOWN!!!!!!!!
plucky
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hey erika are you gonna go to the warped tour>? oh have u spoken to matilda? yup,so what up with save ferris? oh yeah when is "verval assult" gonna practice again?? .....taka-taka.psss psss
fidela- (plucky)
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last i heard about the deftones chino was put in the hospital cause his throat was a big swollen bleeding mess
kt
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hey if any of you guys are bored check out this. its basically just pix of theSTART..aimee...Tairrie but slightly different. Just go if you care. I've heard from about 4 different people that the deftones broke up. I'm having a hard time swallowing this (espically b/c people are ignorant and dont understand the Team Sleep thing), So if anyone has anything they could tell me i'd appreciate it.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
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It's been a weird weekend. So weird infact, that I ended up in Hospital at midnight on sunday needcing 20 stitches to my head. Ouch.
Metal Malcolm
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**shameless self promotion** DAMNATION Busting out an evil acoustic set! playing with HEAD LITE VIEW SAT Feb 9th @ Back Alley Bar in Fullerton 116 1/2 W. Wilshire Blvd #C 21+ IT'S FREE!!!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, ca usa -
all right! a tour date!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
cov, ca states -
2 weeks
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warped tour this year: Bad Religion, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, NOFX, New Found Glory, Lagwagon, Reel Big Fish, No Use for a Name, Flogging Molly, MxPx, Finch, Used, Good Charlotte, Something Corporate, Mad Caddies, Casualties, Ozma, Alkaline Trio, Morgan Heritage, theSTART. yay. not worth all the $$ it's going to cost, but assuming they actually stay on this year, i'll be there.
stefanie
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Excuse the ignorance: how have thestart been confirmed for such a major tour without a label representing them? Have they signed with someone else? Fill me in...
liesey <echokittie@hotmail.com>
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Hey. Has anyone heard the weezer tribute album (rock music)?? Are there other confirmed bands...wheres the list?!? thanks.
natalie
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woohoo warped! punk and all!
-erika <blac_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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If you playing the warped tour, you hafta play in cleveland!!!
bluemondayy <bluemondayy@hotmail.com>
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Ok, what's going on!? What's this talk of Ireland? Who's coming over?! *gets all excited*
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -
so is anyone checking out the san diego show?
tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
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hiyer, you all alright i would have read all the posts but i can't arsed cos i'm getting pissed! its my one month anniversary with my girlfriend today! and i'm in a really good mood! has anyone heard what the band are doing cos none of them have posted on here for ages? just wondered
jen jen
manx, uk -
mushrooms tonight!!!!
kt
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Oni Press and Springman Records have announced the bands scheduled to appear on April’s Pounded: The Official Comic Book Soundtrack. The disc is inspired by the upcoming comic by Brian Wood and Steve Rolston and will be featured in an article about the miniseries in an upcoming issue of Spin Magazine. “The band response to this project has been amazing,” commented Springman Records chief Avi Ehrlich. “Determining the final list has been a difficult process. There are just so many groups that wanted to be a part of it. This is seriously going to be one of the best punk rock compilation CDs out there.”
The bands scheduled to appear on the CD include: the Bouncing Souls, Bigwig, Dynamite Boy, Amazing Transparent Man, Fury 66, Pain, Big In Japan, Gob, Sloppy Meat Eaters, Strike Anywhere, One Man Army, Ann Beretta, King Monkey (MY BAND!), the Eyeliners, Mr. T Experience, Mid Carson July, and the Teen Idols.
In addition to a full-length audio CD, the Pounded disc also includes a bonus multimedia section. Fans can check out full-color Pounded comic strips, visit the creators’ websites, find a local comic specialty store and access information on the Pounded miniseries.
“I’ve never seen a comic book tie-in as cool as this,” concluded series editor James Lucas Jones. “Comic fans get the chance to check out a bunch of great new music and comics get exposure in a whole new arena.”
Pounded #1 (of 3) will feature 32 pages of black-and-white story and art, with a full color cover. With a cover price of $2.95, it will ship to comic book stores on April 3, 2002. Pounded: The Official Comic Soundtrack features exclusive Pounded artwork and multimedia section. It arrives in stores April 17, 2002 with a retail price of $7.95.
kenickie
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Kenickie...you really don't know what you're suggesting. But other than that I like the rock city idea. I'm now going to three all night parties in the next month. Drum and Bass on saturday, Techno in two weeks, and then the Hundred Reasons All nighter the week after. My poor poor liver. I don't think this many drugs will have been consumed in such a short period of time since....well...last week...
By the way, i'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes. I've managed a month so far, but I plan to keep smoking dope, because, let's face it, it makes me cool. ;-). Any advice on how to keep the Tobacco out of it? I can't afford to smoke pure joints all the time.
I'm ranting now aren't I? It's been a long day. Oh, and KT, if you so much as touched phill's girlfriend, she'd kick your ass. Seriously man. :)
Metal Malcolm
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Beck <TheCrazygoddess@aol.com>
Los angeles, CA U.S.A -
I knew this was going to be the year of the concerts. This warped tour is going to kick sooo much ass!!! Get ready to put on your dancing shoes everybody....:-)
Jenn Santos <savory921@hotmail.com>
Palmdale , CA USA -
warped tour? oohhh i could do two or three of those, yes... not that i'd want to with the rest of that lineup... but hey, ozma!
stefanie
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PHILL'S GIRLFRIEND!!! WOOOHOOOO!!!
kt
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kt - bring it on! should you make it to nottingham, we'll take you to rock city and get you very drunk, then you can go try to pull phil's girlfriend.whaddaya say malcolm? malcolm? where are you going?
kenickie
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You could bike from Ireland, were it not for the small matter of the sea between here and there. I think a plane ticket from Ireland to here is a bit beyond my limited cash reserves at the moment, mainly because I don't even have money for food. However, if you let me know in advance, i'll see what I can do. And as for dropping by Kenickie's place....I couldn't possibly comment...
Metal Malcolm
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i'll be sure to stop by your place, kenickie!
kt
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what hell are talking about, CANADA? your whole country's smaller than my state. it'd take like two days to drive to canada...man i could BICYCLE to england from ireland in like twenty minutes. in fact, i think that's what i'll do. how much does a bike rin for in ireland?
kt
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Man, that's not a trip where I can pick you up....that's like a trip to canada for you or something...especially with my finances. But....
if you let me know in advance, i'll see what I can do. It may not be too tricky to get to england from there....anyways, where's Bronagh? She could help here....and if I told phill you were coming, he'd be so scared you wouldn't believe it. He'd probably go home....but don't let that put you off.
What am I letting myself in for.....
Metal Malcolm
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i like grabbing cunt and tits in public....ha ha ha! love you all:)
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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news just in: the entire population of ireland has fled for other countries as far away as possible. ; )
kenickie
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hey Malcolm! through some bastard connection i managed to wrangle i can now get ahold of a roundtrip ticket to IRELAND for like 80 BUCKS!!! DUDE!!! you gotta come pick me up!!! i mean hell the drive for you would probably be like driving to houston for me...except for the water crossing part...so make that from here to galveston then...SHIT! DUDE!! i'll THROW DOWN FOR THE GAS, FOOLIO!!!AHAHAHAH!!!HERE I COME PHIL'S GIRFRIEND!!!
kt
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eek! if it is another evil shirt... that could be a problem.
hypnaughtika
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i dont know but its THE SAME GODDAMNED KIND
kt
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IT'S NOT FAIR!!! I WANT THAT SHIRT AND I CAN'T USE EBAY! DAMN YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Metal Malcolm
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lol. could it be another evil shirt?
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kt
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There is a rare HWP tshirt posted for auction on ebay right now..... (search Human Waste Project) ;)
human <human@wasteproject.com>
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I have. I live there. I got out of bed an hour early this morning, to go to a lecture that was never going to take place. I feel this may be a perfect example of how my year is going to go.
Metal Malcolm
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i have never been in a worse place
kt
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erika, that wasnt cool what you did...grabbing my boob in public!!! I'll get you for that next time ass gobblin! jk
=fiDela <millencolinchik@yahoo.com>
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hey y'all, i'm not well, got this winter bug thing that is going around at the moment, hope you are all ok, i'm off know cos i ache like fuck!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
KT - Really man, I can't help you. I'll tell you what i'll do, I'll get photo's of them both and send you them next time you're on MSN. How's that?
Metal Malcolm
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the venus flytrap's are a swayin, swayin/the horseflies, theyre all obeyin
kt
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hello ;)
-erika
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aww thank you erika!! hello :p
ellen
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i've been ignoring this board for a while so i guess i will post... i am seeing gorillaz sooooon, oh how i swoon. i am listening to the cure, static-x, sonic youth and old garbage, because i missed that whole thread and feel like talking about it anyway.. yep. what the hell is theSTART up to damn it, i wish to see them tour once again.
stefanie
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happy bday.....EMILY-kewl!...fidELA-yes... ellen..hello! MALCOLM HURRY UP!!!!!! HA HA HA! LOVE YOU ALL LOVES!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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Its my birthday today!!!!! wOOt!!
Amy
Syd, Aust -
how about Phil's e-mail address while we're at it, eh? with that i can have a WHOLE lotta fun. and i need his middle and last name, the names of his parents, and the gradeschool he attended too.
kt
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Malcolm, i plead with you! it is of the utmost imperative that i speak with her. i need you to tell her this next time she's there; what's more important, though, is that Phil is there when you ask her. My ultimate goal is to charm her pants off through the phone with my slick American accent. While Phil's in the room of course. we'll see how long he refuses to talk to me then! nobody EVER refuses to talk to ME over the phone GODDAMMIT!!! you see Mal, i've made it my mission now to make Phil's life a living, squirming pandemonium of strife.
kt
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*roflmao*
kt
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DISTURBED LIKE FUCKING ROCKS FER SURE!!!
kt
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anyone going to see lunarclick at the whiskey on feb. 28th? they're playing with the anix...i'm so excited to go...i love both bands. :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -
Kenickie - After one conversation with some of my housemates, Phil refused to talk. I don't think Phil's g/f, who is even quieter than him, will be coming anywhere near the phone. Which is a shame, because the conversation would be hilarious. Scott - that post just made me think. Forget an afro, shave your head, get some lip piercings and play in an electric chair. Guaranteed Success. ;)
Metal Malcolm
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I realy love the music and hope that th e start never stop!!!
julia <n/a>
vandalia, il u.s -
kt - dude. you have to break people in slowly. let her chat to you on malc's phone for a bit longer. *g*
kenickie
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Congrats KT, I imagine there will be more words in one song, than there has ever been before. BTW(I am not down with the sickness!)
scott
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no, give me HER number!!! please?
kt
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Jen - SORRY!!! It's been insane here since exams finished. Tomorrow. I promise. I may be in Manc next month, but i'll talk to you about that later. KT - With all due respects. No. Not in a million years would I give this girl your number. She would kill me.
Metal Malcolm
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nyello babies!! hows you all whats going on then? malc - still waiting for the fone call m8!!
jen jen
manx, uk -
Erika!! Yeah!! I am seeing sevendust next month!! Yeah!!!woohoooo.. twice. They are playing here twice babe!!! extremely happy ~Emily
Emily
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hi erika its me.. funny huh so are we still gonna go to the *REEL BIG FISH* show next month? --fiDela--:0
fidela <millencolinchik@yahoo.com>
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oh, dont worry. i'm hardly done with them. or Phil, at least. did you ask his girlfriend for her number? i want to call and talk to her.
kt
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KT - You've scared my housemates even more now. Thank you. Erika - Sorry! I'm waiting until we've got the demo's printed so I can send one, but it'll be a while. I haven't forgotten. Promise.
Metal Malcolm
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congrats - you are gonna have a ball! singing is brilliant fun!
liesey
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congrads kt! MALCOLM_____where in hell is my MAIL??????????
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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**!!CONGRATS!!**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
oh, ok shit! hold on...lemme...there we go
kt
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Oh dear. I'm gonna hide.... Details man, details! MSN! NOW!
Metal Malcolm
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yes!!! i'm in....a BAND NOW!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! i SSSSSSSSIIINGGGGGGG!!!!!
kt
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KT and the sunshine band... haha
Fiona
UK -
No, you're not in a band? Surely? I fear for the safety of the world. ;)
Metal Malcolm
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guess what i'm IN NOW!?!?!?
kt
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WHAT???
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hey everybody guess WHAT!?!?! GUESS WHAT!?!?!??!
kt
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tunes----ja rule's "always on time"...tori amos-boys for pele...less than jake....nofx....theSTART....and blink...what a line up huh?....oh and did i forget to mention DMX....ha ha ha!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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Best lineup? Hmm... I'd have to go with: Aimee Echo - Vox Trent Reznor - Keys, backup Vox Billy Corgan - Guitar Paz Lenchantin - Bass Josh Freese - Drums
Chris <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
Fresno, CA -
Yay us. Quite cool to see all the varied bands you guys are listening to. How about this one then, What would be the ultimate lineup eg vocals (Aimee of course), bass etc XoXoX Ad.
Ad
UK -
Hey ya all!! I just want to let you guys to sign our my robotic team's guestbook @ www.arcadiarobotics.com then when you get a chance read my Biography on the team page. Click under "teams" then "video journalist" It has a little message that was influenced by theStart. You guys will love it!! :-) thanks!!!
Emily
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hey there rockstar ;) cool! xx
luxy
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YOU GUYS (& girl) ROCK!!! keep it up man..!!
Annie <B_I_O_N_D_O@antisocial.com>
St. louis, MO USA -
machina is an awesome album. "stand inside your love" was "our song" with me and my then girlfriend.at the moment, i'm listening to rival school/united by fate, jimmy eat world/bleed american, our demo ;), afi/the art of drowning.
if anyone wants to hear our demo, click on my name. i havrn't actually heard this mp3 because i don't have speakers, so i don't know if it ripped correctly, but i think it should sound ok.
kenickie
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Right now, I'm listening to theSTART(of course), "Full Collapse" by Thursday, "Machina" by the Smashing Pumpkins (I completely agree with you, Jamie, by the way), and "Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too" by New Radicals.
Chris <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
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Hey everyone.. Hope everyone is great.. i was wondering whats going on with theStart? any shows?? unfortunately i missed the last one.. im currently listening to the Dead Can Dance boxset, theStart always, the Cure "kiss me kiss me kiss me" the Cranes "loved", SIX "when the beautys gone" and yesterday i put on HWP for the first time in a while an old friend was over. It was like the first time, Amazing.. peace..
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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I am listening to the anix's demo, kosheen, tre'lux , garbage and theSTART!!
lauRa
syd, -
My Ruin on Fri. Jan 18th at the Troub, OK. Is there another date? I'd really like to see them play for the 1st time but i have plans for that date! hows the new bassist?
Maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
I am currently listening to The Start and My Ruin and Tura Satana because I will be going to the show this Friday January 18th at The Troubadour for Tairrie B's birthday. Is anyone from this board going to be there? I emailed My Ruin and they said the rumor of Jessicka singing with the band is TRUE!!!!Oh god I am so excited.A reunion and a duet? All we need is Aimee to make an appearance and the night will be so great. Does anyone here know if Aimee is still in contact with Tairrie or Jessicka? I hope to meet lots of new people at the show. I heard also that there are gonna be all these fun surprises I can't wait yeah!!!The ultimate show would be My Ruin and The Start and Jessickas new band and Snake River Conspiracy and maybe Crisis!I smell a girl fest somewhere here?
shelly
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hahah oops i read that wrong.....nevvvvvermind....i'm gonna see lunarclick on the 28th, and the faint on the first...yay....right now i'm listening to: deadsy "le cirque en rose," lunarclick "red shade," imagica "the birthday massacre," and the anix "so real"....
ellen
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Currently listening to... Candiria "300 Percent Density",V/A "Industrial Madness", Saturday Night Fever soundtrack,nin "Broken", Defenestration "One Inch God", and of course theSTART
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -
|currently screaming/dancing along to| far/water & solutions | new end original/thriller | theSTART/shakedown! | Jimmy Eat World/bleed american | bikini kill/pussywhipped
my hwp & snot cd's somehow vanished. the hunt is on. so how has everyone been doing? whats ENO up to these days?
natalie
ny -
Currently obsessed with: theStart-Shakedown, Portishead-Portishead, Pink Floyd-Echoes, Clinton-Clinton, Jimmy Eat World-Bleed American, Alice in Chains-Unplugged. Great stuff. Stuff of legends...or legends in the making. Inspirational. The End.
Shrie Lenee <slb0045@unt.edu>
Denton, TX USA -
mudhoney, helmet, the melvins, jesuslizard, clutch. right NOW anyway.
kt
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whaaa...wait i'm confused.....they're all playing the same day? where at...i'm totally lost.
ellen
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I'm going to be at the Lunarclick concert. Isn't the faint also playing some where on fri. the 29th?
Jennifer
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current... Deadsy, theSTART, tura satana - relief through release, smashing pumpkins - adore, and some oingo boingo. :) Hm...lunarclick AND the faint...playing the same day. This is troublesome. :( Anyone going to either?
AMANDA <cherryscarling@aol.com>
burbank, ca -
Current listenings: Jimmy Eat World [Bleed American], theSTART [Shakedown], No Doubt [Rock Steady], Blink 182 [Take Off Your Pants and Jacket], Tsunami Bomb [The Invasion Within]- see some of you @ the Ruin show on Fri. xx
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -
currently listening to.... incubus - morning view & s.c.i.e.n.c.e. pink floyd - echoes deftones - around the fur glassjaw - e.y.e.w.t.k.a.s. AND human waste project - e-lux :)
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
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I am currently listening to the Police Message in a box because I got it for christmas, Fugazi- the argument, Smashing Pumpkins- Machina(most underrated record ever, besides mine)Rival Schools- united by fate, Nirvana- in utero, Beatles-Help. as if anyone cares right.
jamie
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in my car - e-lux, shakedown, madonna - GHV2, incubus - morning view, transmission - tea party and siamese dream - smashing pumpkins.
liesey
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Hmmmm...am I hardcore? I dunno...influence wise, just anything with emotion, from Squarepusher to Morbid Angel. It just all goes in the ears and gets mixed up. Currentlyy listening to...Cable, T.I.T.R., N.E.O., Incubus, theSTART, and my demo...Is that vain?
Metal Malcolm
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in my car at the moment - theStart, Shakedown!; The Hives - Your new favourite band; Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain; Kylie - Fever; Rival Schools - (can't remember title) and Garbage - beautifulgarbage...
Fiona
London, UK -
i have (currently playing) theStart "Shakedown", Madonna "GHV2", No Doubt "Rock Steady", SOAD "Toxicity", & HWP "E-Lux". On the side waiting is The Doors.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, ca usa -
hey guys an gals ... I have a question for the band, but if they aint about, this goes to any hardcore fans. Who are your (any of theSTART) influences, and which CD's in your stereo at the minute? This can also go out to anyone else as well just to see how diverse the fans are. XoX Ad.
Ad
UK -
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!
kt
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i just wanted to say "hi" to all my little heretic friends. i haven't posted in forever. how is everybody?
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -
i don't even look at the other board... too many weirdos. this is so much simpler, and the people are much nicer.
stefanie
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the kids at the other board are just so..........what's the right word? i'm making an effort to be REALLY careful with this right here.
kt
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hey, do you guys go into chat rooms?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
hey all!! ahhhhhh! school has started...had to add classes cause they canceled mine then tell me that i have to pay $10 to get a refund for THEIR cancelation!!! what the fuck... Hope all you are doing better in school that me. ***THESTART ROCK***
MARIA <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
www.crashingtheparty.com
- <www.crashingtheparty.com>
usa -
what the hell has this world come to????
-erika <black_norbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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okay peeps ... tell me if i'm going crazy here ... but is Aimee getting more and more pretty each time i see her??? When HWP were around i thought "WOW" .... but now ..... the font cant fully capture the magnitude of 'wowage'. Luv you all. Fray.
Fray <ebow316@aol.com>
UK -
I just listened to your band Malcolm, you guys are pretty good.
Jennifer
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Alternatively, listen to my band! Malcolm - Whore supreme
Metal Malcolm
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Got my webcam back working. Have fun. if you're bored.
Metal Malcolm
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http://crashingtheparty.com/
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USA -
How's this for an interesting situation? In 15 mins I have to show a bunch of impressionable possible Undergraduates round my University, and I would have the biggest hangover in the world, but for the fact I think i'm still drunk from last night. Don't you just know it's gonna hit me right in the middle of the tour? Ouch ouch and thrice ouch.
Metal Malcolm
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I thought that Nelly Furtado's nominations were bad enough. What category did Saliva get nominated for?!?!
Jennifer
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I'm sure I'll probably get flogged for this...but I think the only label out there that actually does a good job of promoting bands (those most of them are crap!) is Dreamworks....almost all of the bands that they've signed recently have taken off....Alien Ant Farm, Jimmy Eat World, Papa (I eat) Roach(s), Lifehouse, Nelly Furtado...I mean....I think if they could get on that label, they'd promote the hell out of them......and as everyone else has said-FUCK THE LABEL!!!
Tyler Durden <caco0690@hotmail.com>
TX -
I had to post because I just heard the terrible news about The Start being dropped. Oh god what's next I hate the record business. I have had a crazy day first I heard this and then I heard that Saliva was nominated for a grammy? The only good thing I heard was someone told me that they went to the My Ruin message board and read a post confirming that Tura Satana will getting back together for Tairie B's birthday show atThe TRoubadour and playing after My Ruin next friday night!This was the only thing that made my day better. I wish The Start and My Ruin would play a show together and Scarling could play too(they are Jessicka from Jack Off Jills new band)does anyone like them here? I hope I see Aimee at the show because there is a rumor that Jessicka will be singing with My Ruin and oh god what if Aimee was there too..how simply perfect that would be for me and my camera. I know very selfish but a girl can dream can't she. Don't worry Aimee because these bastards haven't a clue !
Strawberry Gashes
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Quite simple. Saliva got a grammy nomination because PEOPLE ARE STUPID!!!! Sorry, i'm 2 and a half bottles into three bottles of red wine. That make sense? good.
Metal Malcolm
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can anybody tell me why saliva GOT A FUCKING GRAMMY NOMINATION!?!?
kt
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Hey guys> it's me again. Sorry, I thought you had to register or something first! :P I just wanted to say that theSTART rocks (as if you don't already know that) and ask: Is anyone from Columbus OH, here? THanks:)
Danielle
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*~* If this is right, I'd rather be wrong...If this is sight, I'd rather be blind! (Incubus) *~*
Jamie <JamieDCarbon@Email.com>
Oh -
i'm up for a chant! shall we start it again....(no pun intended!) well, back in uni! what fun! and i'm already bored shitless! and as for this record label, wheres the HQ cos i know a man with a bomb! but i don't understand if the band wanted to to be dropped or the label just dropped them, if its the latter, WHY??? are you all mad???
jen jen
manchester, uk -
*was at ozzfest too* *Thinks*
FUCK ALL RECORD LABELS WORLDWIDE!!!
that should do.
Metal Malcolm
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this reminds me.. when i saw HWP at the ozzfest, aimee led us into a 'fuck hollywood records' chant..anyone care to join in a new one? on the count of 3......
luxy <mindspill@eternalux.co.uk>
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Oh no...Under pressure I don't have much to say! Love the CD! I am fully prepared to be a Heretic, so please, indulge me!
Lauren Leatherman <Astraea181@aol.com>
Clinton, NY USA -
i'm sure they've got the will to pick up and carry on.. but like malcolm says.. FUCK!
luxy <mindspill@eternalux.co.uk>
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Jen - I will call. Promise. Kenickie- No problem man, no problem at all...
Metal Malcolm
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yeah it rained last night and this morning and we have two more of those helicopter things here to help now, but they are still evacuating people.. Not near me this time though *phew*... and YAY on the NEW start!! We still want to see you down here :)
lauRa
syd, -
lauRa - It's raining!!!! Did it help you guys? *Damn the Man and Fuck The Label*
liesey
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he speaks for me
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FUCK the label
kt
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Well i guess for the guys...& girl the new year brung about a new START, and i have a feeling that this time around it'll be better. its definatly true that not everyone can sell zillions of copies of their record (even though somehow bands like limp bizkit pulled if off - no offense to anyone) i can say this a million times and mean it more and more each time when i say i'll always love you guys. And im sure that i can speak for everyone when i say we're behind you 110%.
natalie
ny -
The move is probably for the best. How well were they promoted on The Label?
liesey
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god dammit! thats all i have to say, but if the band weren't happy then they did the right thing! malcolm - hey remember me fone me sometime you! i haven't heard from you in ages!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
malcolm - tuesday is booked! thanks mate!
kenickie
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All this may be true, but it still means another delay in getting them to the UK! And because of this, I say: FUCK!
Metal Malcolm
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seriously, if they're disappointed with the LABEL'S performance and it wasn't the other way around, that's more than fine. they'll get picked up somewhere else, and i think it will really be a lot better for them.
stefanie
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im sure this isnt as bad as it sounds :( someone is bound to pick them up, thestart rule.
thePUNCHY
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All of it didn't post last time...here's the whole thing - theSTART have in fact parted ways with their label, The Label/Geffen, due to disappointment with their labels performance. The split was amicable and the band retained the rights to their recent debut release, "Shakedown!". At present, the group are writing new material and making plans for a spring tour, with hopes to land a new label shortly.
Infinite
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Awww FUCK!
Metal Malcolm
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STARTING Again Pt.2 - wookubus (1:26 AM MST 01/06/2002) theSTART have in fact parted ways with their label, The Label/Geffen, due to disappointment with their labels performance. The split was amicable and the band retained the rights to their recent debut release,
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USA -
lauRa - glad to hear that you are safe. i hope that it does rain soon for all you guys down there. according to prp.com, it seems that thestart havent been dropped as much as they are seeking new representation. fair enough. shakedown wasnt promoted like it could have been and perhaps this change is for the better.
liesey
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STARTING Again - wookubus (3:14 PM MST 01/04/2002) Recent rumors heavily suggest that the theSTART have parted ways with their label, The Label/Geffen, due to dissapointing sales of their recent release, "Shakedown!".
www.theprp.com
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Hey Hey all I just wanted to let the Band kow the kick ass that is if they ever read this and that is probably something you hear everyday but I thought I would put that out there and I don't know if you will take this as a complement or an insult but you guys sound like the band Missing Person and they are my favorite band. If the band really does read these though I would really like them to send me an email.
Emery <hardcore_libra@yahoo.com>
Preston, MD USA -
if you havent seen vanilla sky yet, DON'T. i've never been more pissed off at a movie ending in my entire life. I take it back; go see it, but walk out RIGHT at the two-hour mark, because the last 16 minutes will completely fuck up the entire movie for you. 90 percent of the movie is great, but the last 10 percent ruins the first 90 percent completely, and you feel not only unfulfilled but as if you were just robbed of two hours and sixteen precious minutes of your life.
kt
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To be fair, I wasn't wide awake, I was just so drunk that I sounded like it. But you have a point. *Regulates phil*
Metal Malcolm
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fuck it. you were WIDE fuckin awake and so was he, so regulate and tell him to quit bitching.
kt
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For the record, I sent you the number I had man, I know even less about international calls than you do. AND MY HOUSEMATE DIDN'T APPRECIATE YOU CALLING AT 3 IN THE FUCKING MORNING!!!! :) Just kidding..it was nice to talk to you. certainly made me laugh. We should do it again sometime....just when i'm less drunk. ANd awake and stuff.
Metal Malcolm
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I sure it isn't true,theSTART is an amazing band.If they were dropped then the people who run that label are a bunch of freakin' morons.Just becuse Limp Dick and System of a Down can sell a million copies in a couple of weeks doesn't mean every other band sucks just becuase they couldn't sell millions in a few weeks.theSTART are way better then all the top selling bands out there.At least they something else to offer people besides lame a$$ powerchords and fat guys rapping and sreaming.News like this makes me really question my dreams of making music.It seems now a days it doesn't pay off to sound different then the norm,because either you won't get signed or they'll end up getting dropped if you don't sell as much as Creed in the first couple of months.
Professor_White
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The fires are all around where I live, on all sides, they went through the next town to us and that is a 5 minute drive away. They closed the roads around us at one stage too.. There is moron's lighting new ones every day, like the fire fighters have nothing better to do!! I don't know what some people use for brains sometimes.. We aren't expected to get rain for days either so our state will continue to burn until we get some..
lauRa
syd, oz -
KT - you need to dial 0044 †hen the number... if the number has an 0 at the start you need to ignore it - for example, 0161 becomes 161 - 0044 161 etc... that will work!
Fiona
London, UK -
hey asshole i need a more coherent phone number than 0155-whatever it else it was last time. i called that and it said "wrong int'l number" so i called the operator and he told me with a very thick puerto rican accent that 44 is the UK's int'l number and that dialing "011" before ANYTHING was apparently a big FUCKING mistake and that there would be heinous consequences if i did. i described to the operator in a rusty tex-mex dialect of spanish the sign of the beast and he let me off the goddamn phone without coming over to my house and slitting my throat in the middle of some night in the coming month. He even told me he'd wear his motherfucking headset and lash me with an piece of ethernet cable. So i tried to dial the number with a 44 in the place of the 011 in the first four-digit block of the eleven digit number you gave me but the damn electronic voice operating system to whom i refer as Rosie(as in Rosie of the Ringing Bells) kept squealing at me that th number was all fucked and she further suggested that i hang up and check the number, and then dial ALL OVER AGAIN. so did. and the SAME GODDAMNED THING happened, Malcolm, and so i spent the next half-hour switching around the digits in the first four-digit block of the eleven digit number you gave me and rotating the 44 as WELL as the 011 in and out of the number JUST IN CASE the operator was only FUCKING with me the whole time. SO MALCOLM! what did i do next? well, shit, i thought. he gave his CELL phone number and it's worth a try so i MIGHT as WELL DO IT, you know? Malcolm? SO i did it. and rosie sounded pissed. i shit you not, man. She's normally all robotic and indifferent but when i entered in your damn cell phone number she practically snarled at me that i wasn't, and i QUOTE for the sake of quoting, "AUTHORIZED" to dial that number. and so i was given no option, to dial menu of go-backs; i was hung up on, with all of Rosie's unleashed emotional fury electrifying the telephone lines and sending me flying across the room. Malcolm. the number you sent me is FUCKED! i need a REAL NUMBER! i dont know if i could TAKE ANOTHER BOUT!!!
kt <HEY MALCOLM!!!>
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legolas is ace. did you see how everyone else was truggling through the snow, and he was just walking on top of it? and i bagsied arwen first, thank you very much jen. ;)
kenickie
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oi! The peter pan guy is cool! also very fine.
Fiona
London, UK -
#7, HELLS yeah! i dont know about yall, but rumors arent very scary anymore with that kind of stuff popping up now.
kt
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goddamn, i was watching CNN and suddenly they showed all this hellfire like razing the place...i hope everything's alright. i haven't BEEN there yet.
kt
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lauRa - you havent posted for a while. is your family ok? im not sure where exactly you live but are the fires near your town? Just hoping that you are safe. Take care now
liesey
australia -
malc - you have very urgent email!
kenickie
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emily call me today around 8pm, kewl????
-erika
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alright malcolm!!!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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i know its a bit late but happy new year to you all! thats hope this ones better! stefanie - wow! heehee that pix great!
kenickie - NO! i want the lovely elf princess!!! and whats the deal with that other elf guy who thinks hes peter pan??
going now....byeeeeeeee!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
i tried calling your cell number too and i got an even more squealy and abrupt voice telling me i wasnt even authorized to use tht number.
kt
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i tried already man; send me that number again, because i got a squealy "this number has been disconnected" notice.
kt
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Gah! HAte being away from the net for so long. Oh well i'm back now i'm afraid. Erika, I got your card today. THANK YOOOOO! Expect mail sometime soon...
Happy new year and all that stuff to you all. Oh, and KT, i'm back home, so you can call me now if you wanna!
Metal Malcolm
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We don't know if it's true or not. I went to the Interscope website and they are still listed as one of their artist. So I don't know.. umm.. Let's all hope for the best. love ya all.
Emily
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mood lifter indeed!
liesey
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dum de dum... click on my name... mood-lifter heh.
stefanie
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i think that i can speak for all of us in saying that whatever happens that we are behind you all 100%. all things happen for a reason and change is good. i still hope that the rumours arent true, but either way thestart is nowhere near the end. Rise up ... (for a new beginning??)
liesey
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i REALLY hope that the rumor isnt true. but IF it is true i doubt there will be a problem getting a new deal somewhere else...somewhere better. Whatever happens, happens. but everything happens for a reason. no matter what WE LOVE YOU!
natalie
ny -
I called you today erika. Around 5pm. Nobody picked up. anyway.. yes I own you a dollar!!
Emily
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you owe me my dollar emily :)---I hope theSTART didn't I'll go cry now! Call me Emily!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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you know what... i really don't think being dropped could be the worst thing in the world for theSTART. they're a talented group and i think any label would be more than happy to pick them up - they weren't very well promoted but i'd say they picked up an excellent fanbase off gorgeous and are bound to sell more records off the second single. if they ARE dropped, and i'll wait for a confirmation before i believe that, i have a hard time believing it will be difficult for them to find another label. what they're doing is very different from the likes of the nu-metal bands or pop acts, but it's undeniably great music. let's hope everything works out alright.
stefanie
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yeah, well i think that i would breakdown! well i hope that its all lies, lies horrible lies!!!
liesey
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when I heard the news last night, my first reaction was, what the heck, then I was like oh my gosh people on this board are going to breakdown!!!! then I wanted to confirm the news so I asked this other TheStart fan there. She told me the same thing. I don't know where they heard it from. We need official confirmation until then, I will not and shall not believe it!!! I bought five cd!!!
Emily
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it cant be true! it cant! anybody know where these rumours are coming from?
liesey
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whaaa? now ur making me wanna cry.
ellen
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Happy New year!!! Okay last night I was at the Roxy in LA. I met like three TheStart fans. They told me they got dropped!! I was like "what the heck!!" then I started crying!!! Anybody explain!! What is going on?????
Emily
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I was at a new years eve party and met someone who worked at The Label which is the label that The Sart are on and they told me and my boyfriend that The Start had just been dropped. Is this really true?Please answer because we couldn't believe it and are in shock They said that you were given back your record?pLEASE LET US KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE? I love your band so much!
Stacey
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luuuuuuuuuxxxxxxxxxxy! happy new year all.
i still want an elf princess for christmas.
kenickie
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happy new year everyone....esp kenickie & metal malcolm *blows a kiss* Luxy xxx
luxy <mindspill@eternalux.co.uk>
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Happy new year everyone! Hope you all enjoyed yourselves last night... i have the worst hangover ever. bleugh.
Fiona
London, UK -
Boy oh boy, I haven't been to the website since forever... I can't believe all the shit talking that is going on. It is absolutley amazing that so many intelligent people can be so judgemental and frankly STUPID. I have been a fan of TheStart since the day they "started" I personally really like the music , the fans and mostly the humble and talented band... What truely upsets me is the fact that who ever these people are that like talking shit about people who play music to have fun and express themselves must really not have any creative bones in their bodies or else they would at the very least respect and apprieciate others who are expressing themselves through music; At the least keeping real music(good or bad in your opinion)alive. Since today is the last day of the year 2001 I would like to wish everyone a happy new year and I hope if anything the world's chaos should teach people is that at least we have ear candy to take us away for even a moment from all the bullshit.. To the band members of the start I wish you the world and hope that you take all the critiscism and leave it behind you with the 2001.
Lizzie
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HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!!! *****those upcoming*****those occuring*****those past*****
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
KT - You are one sick puppy... hahaha
Fiona
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Hello. You've reached 858-2675. Please leave a message and we'll call you back. *BEEEEEP* "Hello, good afternoon. This is Dr. Harvey Salisbury, with the Hays County Coroners Office down here in San Marcos...i'm trying to get in touch with a one Gus Earnshaw, whom i met with last week in regards to his deceased mother. Mr. Earshaw, i regret to have to tell you this in a message, let alone through the telephone but i'm afraid all others avenues in contacting you have yielded me with only this this number. There was an accident at out department yesterday, Mr. Earnshaw; an accident that involved our refridgeration facilities. I'm really sorry Mr. Earnshaw but it appears that there was a power surge at approximately 5 p.m. yeasterday afternoon that knocked out the electricity to the unit in which your mother was being...kept. Unfortunately Mr. Earnshaw, there was no faculty present until around noon today when the problem was discovered, so that means the body was without refridgeration for well over 18 hours and...well...we'd like for you to come down to our offices as soon as it is convenient for you so that we can discuss...hmmm...alternate means for the funeral, as i hear you were wishing to have an open casket ceremony and, well Mr. Earnshaw...it doesn't look like that's going to be an option any more. Please get in touch with me as soon as you can; either number on the card i gave you last week should do. Thank you Mr. Earnshaw, and have a nice day." *click*
kt
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Erika.. I saw Avo the other night. ahhahahahaha...
Emily
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Thanks Emily--you better have kicked those bastards hard! Scott with and afro----how cute:)
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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*big hugs and kisses to everyone* missed you all, if anyone remembers me! glad to see you are all still here, the ones who count...
Crissy <candyazs@aol.com>
CT USA -
number #7 but do you still have a deal?
Antmusic
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theSTART have been a great influeance on the kind of music I'm making.Shit,it if wasn't for theSTART then I would quit trying to learn the keyboard long ago(because at the time I was getting ready to give up my dream of making music)But hearing their music and the kind of energy they show made me want to be a rockstar.
Professor_White <thesimpletreatment@hotmail.com>
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anyone have plans for new years?
liesey
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whats sucks is that people get stuck in a certain type of music rut. Like only this kind of music rocks and all others suck. I think this 'rocksteady' is that type of person. Personally Amiee inspires my singing. What also bothers me is that this person calls them self 'rocksteady' the title of No Doubts new album, and used Gwen as an example. i like No Doubt, and don't like that this person uses them and other bands for their own ends simply because they don't know the people. They think they hear a few songs and know life...yea right, were it that easy. [does that make sense?]
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
what exactly, pray tell, could the connection be between nemisis and rock steady whatsitsname? quite a lot of bitter people out there, or is it just one? ip tracing on this thing would really be brilliant... in any case, i do think that theSTART are one of the most innovative acts in music today and their sound really can't be compared to anything else out there. for a band that preaches constant positivity and good will, they certainly get a lot of crap. i doubt either poster (if they are two separate people, although come to think of it, it is plausible) is jealous of aimee, but obviously something about theSTART irks them. it certainly can't be lack of originality or the band's bad attitude. don't let them get to you, guys, the majority of us are behind you and understand what you're doing. and scott, i'm thinking a flat-top might be more flattering :P
stefanie
philadelphia, pa -
Hey Scott, i think you'd look sexy with that afro *wink wink* Wow, you know what i dont understand? Why people who dont like the band waste their energy posting negative things? If you dont like them then at least do something better with yr time. I seriously doubt that you've inspired anyone. Aimee is amazing (along with the rest of the band!) so just get over yourself and leave us alone. The simple fact that Shakedown is #7 of 2001 should say something. aaargh! Some people just need a swift kick to the arse. p.s. i apologize if this posts more than once, my computer sounds like its going to explode.
natalie
ny -
hahahaha. oh, it's mean to wrap people. ripped my thumb to the bone. felt vaguely nauseous.
kenickie
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*Hands Kenickie large box* Umm....it's a surprise. The muffled noises? Oh....don't worry. That's just the gags..
Metal Malcolm
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yayyyy....#7 woohooo....thestart deserves to be #1, but seven is good enough....alriiiiight!!
ellen
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oh, and if someone wants to get me cate blanchett and liv tyler as late christmas presents, i would be most grateful. ; )
kenickie
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you mean i got to redraw that picture? ; )
kenickie
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yeah!! I am so glad you guys all saw the list in the AP magazine. I was like jumping up and down when I saw it in the bookstore. It was dope!!! Who is this rock steady girl???? I felt like crying after I read her message. lol...anyway.. oh yeah.. there were bunch of stupid guys talking shit about theStart and Amiee at the Alien Ant Farm show last week in LA. I kicked them and said "don't you dare mess around with our mommy!!" that one was for you erika!! hahahaha.. ~Emily
Emily
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Whoa! Whoah!.....People can talk all the shit they want, but let's go easy on the afro thing:)
scott
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i find it really ignorant that people will talk negatively about a band and musicians that they have no knowledge of. all the members of theSTART were in previous, successful bands before this one, and aimee has always been a magnificent leader for girls like myself. i am personally into music other than typical mainstream stuff, and it is pathetic to compare women in music simply because it is a stuggle in itself to become successful in the music industry if u are female unless your out there selling sex. each to their own, but have enough dignity to respect those who have worked hard to get to where they are.
SteFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -
Dude you guys,and girl, freakin' rock!I heard of you from my sister.You play the best music around.I've told so many of my friends to listen to you.Your best song is 10 nemesis!See ya around.
Shane <MilkNotAsGood@hotmail.com>
Palm City, FL United States -
Conformist suck. Be original in your ideas and you dreams will take you far.
Vahn_October <rpgpetros@yahoo.com>
Fresno, Ca USA -
"yeah, fer REAL like i just wanna like say that, like...even though i like...liked your band and stuff last week, i herd this rumer [sic] the other day and like it said that like aimee is a transsexual and lipsynchs to all the songs and like scott's really just using a drum machine and he's not really like actually IN the band and i also heard like jeff and jamie are engaged and are quitting the band to like move to hawaii together or something, which makes me like...really disheartened or something? yeah, so like..." sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*POP*
kt
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...i mean, you know, it's worth a try.
kt
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there is an easy solution to all of this, my friends; i know for a fact how to solve this ass-itch of a problem once and for all, and i'm telling you that all we have to do is set fire to Moby's east village flat. its that easy. and all this bullshit will go away...i SWEAR!
kt
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It seems that there really are some very very bitter and JEALOUS people out there. I think that that is the problem. That they cant accept that such a brilliant formation in theStart has arrived and might begin to rival the likes of some other more established bands. But fuck, isnt that what the music is about? Creativity and reinvention? Why are people so threatened by theStart? Why cant they be open enough to accept and embrace their art? I know I've gone off on a tangent here, but I just dont get it. If you dont like it - dont listen/read/look! Realise that there are people who have been inspired by Aimee and theStart and just because you personally havent doesnt mean that it cant possibly happen. I for one have been greatly inspired by Echo and I dont understand how anyone could possibly attack her personally. If you dont get it now you never will. Leave theStart for the ones who want to dance and be moved. To the rest of you: fuck the hell off. Sorry to babble, I just dont understand some people.
liesey
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Where are all these rumours coming from? They're getting better and better....honestly....popstars..... Congrats on getting so high in AP. It's more than deserved, it's absolutely neccessary. And I must say a cross between Linkin Park, Kittie and the Strokes sounds intruiging to me....and scott really should grow an afro.... :)
Metal Malcolm
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Jamie.. hahaha.. oh my...
Anne <xqiq@aol.com>
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Okay, I don't post alot, but i do check the board out every once in awhile and i have to say what is up with all these pricks and there egos. Stop being so damn judge-mental. First there is the hypoctrit who decides to post under the name nemisis and put down they band she claims to be a fan of. Save your constructive critism for the mirror you look in everyday because the rest of us are content. After that we have Rock Steady (your right there are alot of girl singers in rock but the ratio of girl singers to guy singers is just ridiculus) unfortunatley there are alot of people like you who think that just because a band has a female vocalist they are trying to be like another band who has a female vocalist, there-for making it hard for bands like that to be sucsessful. (think about it, listen to your rock radio and tell me how often they play a band with girl vocals) so that's that. Before I go I just have one question for the band, I heard a rumur that Aimee and Jamie were going to try out for the WB's Pop Stars and Scott and Jeff were auditioning for the next Making the Band. Is this true?
Timothy Teasley <Fiercecircle>
Buena Park, CA United States -
rock steady, your exactly right, we are fuckin' silly looking, and we're total followers, our next record will sound like a combination of kittie, linkin park and the strokes since our first one sounds so much like everything else that came out these past few years. Oh yeah, and scotts growing an afro.
jamie
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CHECK OUT THE NEW ALTERNATIVE PRESS MAGAZINE (feb. issue #163 on stands now) !!!!! The START's album SHAKEDOWN!comes in at #7 of the 25 best albums of 2001. congrats kids, you deserve it!
hcw
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goddammit, these people arent necessary. i say we hunt her down and cut her feet off, no?
kt
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was looking at the amazon uk site - apparently 'Shakedown' has sold over 8,000 copies via the website... interesting fact huh? Love you all!
Fiona
London, UK -
Jen - Hey hun! Merry Xmas. I'd been waiting for the hiuts to go past 100 000. I missed it! Damn! Rock Steady Forever. Two ickle things. 1)"In five years time". Perhaps this is hoping that theSTART will be big by then? Regardless, I know women who have joined bands who have been inspired by Echo, so you're wrong there. 2)Are you doing anything worthwhile with your life? I can't imagine you being in a situation where you can get so "Holier than thou". Maybe i'm wrong. Prove me wrong. I dare ya.
Metal Malcolm
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hey y'all! sorry i've not posted for ages, been in wales (where the fun never ends) and i know its a bit late but happy christmas and happy new year!! nice to hear from aimee, we all love you to hun! now as malcolm said, come tour!
i don't know if anyone noticed but we're over 100,000 hits now! just thought i'd point that out! - have a goodun everyone! love to you all xxxXxxxXxxx
jen jen
manchester (well cwbran for the next week), uk -
Rock Steady Forever, You are one bitter bitch. Someone with your incredible sense of righteousness should be busy creating a life of her/his own. Instead, you lurk in other band's forums and talk shit....looking for any opportunity to rat-fuck someone who's trying to make it. You are a pathetic back-stabbing worm. FUCK YOU.
Vlad
Detroit, CA -
'Maybe in five years from now there will be all these wonderful girls in rock bands and it will be my fault?'Was that what she said for real?Pretty self promoting for someone who has not done very much.Erm, I think that there are many girls already in rock bands both playing instruments and singing and believe me Aimee you are not a leader, you are far more a follower.trying to be the next Debbie Harry orDale Bozzio or Gwen Stefani Or Madonna or whoever else you attempt to steal your image and vocal style from. The Start sucks and there is a real rumor going around that you got dropped by your label so how are you going to continue being the inspiration to all women?You are a silly little girl with a silly looking band but I have to hand it to you Aimee Rodriguez you sure have everyone fooled!
Rock Steady Forever
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Of course have a great holiday season!! Go to urban outfitter in Old town pasadena. They have great sale right now. (wednesday). hahahah... I got this really cool shirt for 16 bucks. lol.. It was originally 58. Anyway.. For those of you who party a lot, don't drink and drive. Be Safe!!!!!! Love all you gorgeous people!!!
Emily
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Hope you all had a great holiday and have an even more joyful new year! AIMEE I LOVE YOU TOO :)!!!!!!! xoxo to you all!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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goddammit Malcolm, when you gonna send me your number? i got a 600 min phonecard i have no other use for.
kt
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If anyone's bored between now and friday, go here. http://www.spotlife.com/users2/learoad/webcam/ Guess who?
Metal Malcolm
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Hey old skool Heretics and theSTART... just wanted to say Merry Christmas to u alll.. and have a safe Happy New Year!!! xoxoxo peace!
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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A merry Christmas to all! And a special "thank you" to Aimee, Jeff, Jamie, and Scott for making this year extra special, and for giving us all the chance to dance!
Chris <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
Fresno, CA -
Merry Christmas everyone!!
ellen
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merry x-mas everyone! :)
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, -
maria- i was so happy when i saw thestart in teen people. i couldnt believe it. some fans of other bands would probably get all mad that a band they liked were in a magazine like that, but i love it. ive never had a problem with bands getting recognized...its great
cait <dramatica098@aol.com>
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I havn't seen the picture before, it looks to be from the same photo shoot as seventeen. I don't believe you can get the zine off stands yet. My neice has a subscription, ya know how they get things early. but it's a good picture!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
Covina, Ca usa -
maria, is it a new picture? i'll have to pick that up. i've yet to receive seventeen, which bugs me. anyway i hope you're all having a good holiday... much love to theSTART and the heretics... i need to come up with drastic new spellings of my name, methinks.
theSTEFANIE?
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Well, I know four girls, (myself included) that were inspired enough by Aimee to push our way into the male dominated local scene and do well with it. So I guess it is Aimees 'fault' ;P The revolution has STARTed... take care all,
liesey
australia -
***great news!!! theStart are in Teen People (Feb 2002, pg 77) Nice pic about a half page big. Under the pic it says "maybe five years from now there'll be all these girls in wonderful girl [rock] bands, and it'll be my fault," says Aimee Echo (front). Story's about a bunch of bands coming out for a new music scene. In the article it speaks of the type of music they play and why. for pop zines, 1st SEVENTEEN, now TEEN People. theStart are getting mainstream! ***Heads up to theStart***
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
Merry Christmas fellow heretics!!
lauRa <circles@ispdr.net.au>
oz -
Love you all too. Hope you all have a great holiday. KT - So? I think the world needs a band that sing about orange soda. Oh, and everyone go check out www.peopleatsea.com They're a local band and very very good.
Oh, and check out www.headrushmusic.co.uk too. Because I said so.
Metal Malcolm
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oh, i forgot, i made a card. click on my name.
kenickie
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i love everyone. in a platonic way of course. no polygamous desires here. ; ) happy holidays!
kenickie
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oh i would in a heartbeat, Rae, i would. the only problem lies in that all i can do is sing---and i dont know too many musicians around here that want me up front singing my lyrics...they want powerballad singer-songwriters. i'm not GLUM enough for anyone around here. i dont pine over my ex girlfriends enough, or something. i don't know...i'd much rather sing about minutemaid orange soda. you all know what i mean? WHY LIMIT YOURSELF?!? we all love you too Aimee
kt
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I love you guys...
echo
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P.S KT if you wanna be in a band, go and do something about it!! Don't live wondering what life would be like if... Carpe Diem an' all! Love Rae xxx
rae <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
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Merry Xmas y'all! Let's hope 2002 is better than this year has been!! Feeline- will talk soon!! Promise!!! No honest!! Love an' all, rae xxx
Rae-ski <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
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other stefanie: indeed we are. a fellow girl, a heretic none the less, that spells her name like mine! impressive!
SteFanie
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i want to be a singer in a band. to rock out in front of people and have a good time and have people enjoy my music!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
goddammit, i wish i was in a band. i'd give anything to be in a band...
kt
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ooooh.i'll say it again. ooooh.
go see lord of the rings.
kenickie
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Moses is my nephew. Happy Holidays Everyone.
Timothy Teasley <Fiercecircle>
Buena Park, CA United States -
damn typos.
kenickie
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going to see LotR now. *geeker joy* merry christmass, all of youse.
kenickie
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Merry Xmas to all, and to all a good night!!!!!
-erika
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steFanie, we're really gonna have to work something out here :P
stefanie
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...its like...out of Steinbeck novel or something...
kt
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oooh! oooh! is this any relation to a Moses? when i read through the liner notes of Shakedown when i first bought it, that name like...jumped out at me. Moses Teasley. jesus, i couldn't THINK of a cooler name than that.
kt
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Hello Scott, Aimee, Jeff, and Jamie. Thank you much for a great year full of good music and good shows. For the three of you I won't see I hope you have a wonderfull Christmas. Go see Fellowship of the Rings it's really good. All My Love Timmy
Timothy Teasley <Fiercecircle@aol.com>
Buena Park, CA United States -
maria - beautiful post.Aimee - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!
nemesis - punk is not dead, never has been, never will be. punk is an idea, sometimes followed by a way of life. come to nyc if you really believe that. come to a 'punk' show. feel that energy, then tell me punk is dead.
natalie
ny -
Oh yeah whenever Scarling surfaces I'd love to see them play together- now my head really hurts.
R Y A N <HeroElux@aol.com>
Anaheim, CA 92804 -
I think theSTART should play with Tsunami Bomb! That would rock. If JOJ ever does a show again they should play with them, or Lo-ball? My Ruin- [don't you people get all pissy with the My Ruin thing again, its just a suggestion, lets not draw this out into a huge conversation about blah blah blah-] I don't know- my head hurts from this wonderful thought.
R Y A N <HeroElux@aol.com>
Anaheim, CA 92804 -
Ha ha ha yeah yeah yeah... theSTART will never break up, it will never be theEND to this great dance party they STARTed. Another thing, since when is theSTART "punk"? I think people who are stuck in the land of Hot Topic-ism (I'm not dissin' the store, but just certain people) need to open up there eyes a bit wider and see that there is more to "goth" "punk" "raver" "metalhead" and "freak"... theSTART has an indescribable sound that is their own... Anyways, I haven't popped in here for a while and I just wanted to say "hi" to everyone and wishing everyone a happy holidays and new year and everything else LOL...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA -
hello heretics. just dropping in and catching up. i was curious what bands everyone on the original speakout! are hoping for theSTART to tour with? theres been much discussion on the new forum, but whats up with u old schoolers? everyone enjoy whatever holiday they are or are not celebrating. take care. love steFanie.
SteFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -
ya know, Christmas is coming. or which ever holiday you want to celebrate... despite passings, we should smile at the rain because we have the chance to see it, feel it, and smell it. We should pat our friends on the back and kiss our loves. With these holidays here, we should try to remember to relax and maybe just breath because were alive. Live not to survive but to feel alive, and to appreciate all life.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca USA -
ya know, death seems to be every where, i'm afraid of it being in my house. Bianca Butthole of Betty Blowtorch startled my b-friend, he says Threating Verse used to know them. sadness seems to be following me.... about the seventeen mag, it's decembers issue, (the one right now) and it has this chick on the cover with braids in her hair and a white background. theStart are in this section of up and coming bands or something of that phrase.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca USA -
good job aimee! ugh, the last thing we need on this board is people like "nemisis." anyway... i don't celebrate xmas (hanukkah sucked this year, by the way), but i hope everyone who does has a good one... and an excellent new year! hey "philly crowd" man :P philly loves theSTART... at least about five of us do. maaan i can't wait to hear some new tour plans around here!
stefanie <sms52@drexel.edu>
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theSTART sure are nifty. 4 more days until Christmas- don't people realize that yelling at people that work in the stores doesn't make them go any faster? It just makes me want to punch them. Hope y'all have a safe holiday.
R Y A N <HeroElux@aol.com>
Anaheim, CA 92804 -
nemesis must either live in a warped existence or someone is having a great joke. sad sad sad
Liesey
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Just a short note to say hi to everyone and wish everyone the best of festive seasons! Take care wherever you are! My copy of Shakedown has FINALLY arrived after six months on order so my Christmas has come early! Merry Xmas and all that jazz,
Liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
Australia -
And nemesis, you are SO original by using that name. how very punk of you. do us all a favour and remove your head from your arse, for fuck's sake. hope all the decent folks here have a top festive time.
Fiona
London, -
Kenickie - Not yet. Waiting for a chance on MSN. Aimee - WOO HOO!!!!!! That settled my heart for a second. Now come tour!
Metal Malcolm
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friends' sisters who make them late so that you arrive at gigs after they sell out suck.hey aimee. hey kt.
hey malcolm, did you ask?
kenickie
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such a drag that it feels like I only respond on here to negative posts... as far as "calling ourselves metal in HWP" I HAVE NEVER CALLED MYSELF METAL IN MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE and was very surprised to hear that HWP were "classified " a METAL BAND by others due to the many bills we shared with "metal" bands. I love slayer, don't get me wrong. But Alas, the START is not HWP. As far as HERO being called "POP", once again I must say that I have never used the term POP to describe that incarnation of this band. To be POP you must sound like another group that is POP and be popular. WE don't and for that matter we aren't, very. And at this point, brought to the term "punk", I will tell my little nemisis, (nemesis is the proper spelling)to fuck right the fuck off for you know not what you speak of! You don't know me, know what I know or what I do in my life. You have created an idea of your own of us from a a few interviews (don't trust the press, they always get it wrong)some songs online, perhaps the live show and a CD you may or may not have purchased. I do not know what your idea of what defines what is, or is not "punk", nor do I venture to speculate. I, frankly, don't care. We are not "breaking up". The use of the anarchy symbol in our name is simply an identification with an ideology that we, personally, believe in and in no way a sort of fashion statement or means of gaining "punk" credibility. Isn't it sad that humans feel the need to compartmentalize things? This band goes in the "punk" box. This one the "metal". "That band sounds like ______." I think it's bullshit, but have been guilty myself. I have always put myself in the "punk" box. I have always been "different" and identified with those who are "different". I feel uncomfortable around people who try to be "like" someone else, someone they are not. We make music. I am not sorry. I am so happy the square does not fit in the circle for you! It really never has for anyone has it? On a completly different note, I do hope everyone everywhere ( yeah,you too Nemisis) has a brilliant remainder of the year with love and goodness and peace. Do something for good for someone you don't know it'll make you smile. We miss you AECHO
echo
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AHAHAHAH---!!*covers mouth with hands*...hey nemesis---are you like REAL?!? are you REALLY a REAL person? or are you someone just fucking around? either way thats the most hilarious thing i've read in months!
kt
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depends how narrow your vision of the word "punk" is...oh, click the link for an uncoloured version of an ad for my comic...
kenickie
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There is a rumor going around and if the band would be so kind as to post it would be much appreciated. The rumor is(and I am a bit scared to post this so please do not be angry and jumpa ll over me for this but....)that THE START have been dropped from thier label and are having severe inner problems and may break up. Is this true or false can someone please reply and clarify. I also read the interview with Aimee that was linked to the news page and I am confused. I really like THE START but i'm sorry you are not punk and I think its a little annoying that you would be saying you were metal when you were in HWP and pop when HERO started and now you are punk? PUNK IS DEAD and long over with and I think its a shame that you have to suddenly say you are punk when you are not. An anarchy sign painted as the "A" in the band logo does not equal punk. I thought THE START were a really original band but I have read a few interviews that really sort of disheartened me. I hope that the rumor isn't true and I hope that you figure out what you want in the music world because you are really cool and should not act like posuers.
nemisis <luxgirl@hotmail.com>
LA, CA -
...and she was acting "very unusual"...*sigh*. its like...on top of everything else, you know? on top of all the shit, Winona (*sigh*!) gets popped. the world, my friends...its a crazy CRAZY PLACE
kt
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i heard about Bianca *r.i.p* she'll be missed. I wish all of you a happy holiday season and a rad new year. theSTART have to come back to ny in feb...in time for my birthday! Does anyone know the deal with SCARLING? did they find a guitar player yet? anyone know anything???
natalie
ny -
To Winona? She was arrested for shoplifting... apparently she tried to hide like $5000 of merchandise in her shopping bag. The also found a bottle of "unidentified" pills on her, so she was also charged with posession of prescription drugs without a prescription.
Chris <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
Fresno, CA USA -
What happened? I can't get any news here...
Metal Malcolm
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there will be a somber marathon tonite, my friends. beginning, of course, with "Lucas" and ending, ultimately, with "Autumn in New York"...
kt
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OH NO!!!! my Winona...*sigh*
kt
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I am almost certain that since The Start are home now that they have time to read this. Well here goes nothing, The Philly Start Crew haven't forgotten about ya. So after the holidays get ur asses back on the road and back to philly so we can all hang out again. It's been a long time and we miss seeing you guys live and hanging out. I don't think I will ever grow tired of Shakedown! Happy Holidays to The Start and all their fans worldwide. Andy (The Philly Start Crew)
Andy Sterlachini Jr. <systemofadownset@yahoo.com>
Havertown, PA U.S.A. -
just wanted to wish everyone a merry christmas/happy holidays. so merry christmas, happy holidays and all that other jazz. you all know what i'm talking about. hope you all get everything you want for christmas :) hehe. hope you're all doing well. take care everyone. i shall now go back to being hidden and unmissed.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Erika - It went good. I now have a CD with three of my bands songs on it! Yay us! Scott, that's terrible. I just found out Chuck Schuldiner has died as well. This is a bad trend.
And I had a fantastic time last night with some net people. Especially with one young lady.... ;o)
Metal Malcolm
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What!!! ugh.. umm.. I am going to the Alient Ant Farm show next saturday at the HOB. Are you going? I am there to see Apex theory. Not AAF!! lol.. anyway.. I am going to vagas on sunday through tuesday. But we can hang out like after tuesday. When is your winter break end?I go back to school on the 7th. okay yeah so we will work something out!! ~Emily
Emily
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I just read that Bianca Butthole of Betty Blowtorch was killed in a car accident. I toured with her and Motochrist last year, she made it so fun and that girl lived and breathed rock & roll. R.I.P. Bianca, you will be missed.
scott
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How was the vocal rec. thing Malcolm?....your letter is on it's way...want it to get there before xmas. Emily--I have done all my xmas shopping, but there is always room for more..how about next sunday...I have a huge final on MOnday-ahhhh! Oh yeah, remind me to show you the pics of the xmas concert I played trumpet in...ok :) xoxo p.s. jenjean what exactly do you want on the cover...give me an idea!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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Erika!! when are we going shopping?? Are we going next sunday or this sunday?? e-mail me babe!!
Emily
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well i haven't been here in a long time. i was trying to read everything i missed but that would take all day. i just wanted to say hello to everyong and theStart.. i have missed you guys.. everyone be nice and take care, *spiders&stars*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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well...anyone wanna desgin an album sleeve for me, i'll pay you...in beer! lv jen jen xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
jen jen <oxyjen@hotmail.com>
Manchester, uk -
What is the band up to??!?!? Huuuuuuuuuuuuuman! Hi!!
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -
Jen - Johnny Carter from Pitchshifter, and Paul Yeadon from Bivouac, so we'll have some printed in January for you all. I'm recording Vocals tomorrow. Nervous? Me? Oh, and Bronagh? Told you so...... :o)
Metal Malcolm
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just read my last posting and realised that it doesn't make sense... NO i didn't see MH - god i'm so confused.
Fiona
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My word, raeski has invaded the speakout!! Not sure about MachineHead - depends when it is i guess... hmmm. anyway peeps i am sure you will be delighted to hear that i've now got a computer at home so can input more into the Speakout. hoorah.
Fiona
London, Uk -
Ok ok, I admit it! I forgot how good Therapy? are live. They were EFFING brilliant. =D
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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bronagh - well come over here then! malcolm - WHO? tell me now!! my CD's done, finally, need a sleeve designed, any offers?
jen jen
manx, uk -
KT - Don't make me angry....you wouldn't like me when i'm angry. I turn green. As for Machine head. Someone won a pair of tickets to see them on Wednesday! :o) The same person then gave one ticket to a girl who was flirting with him because she was drunk, and then hardly saw said girl for the rest of the night. :o( Said Person is a complete idiot methinks....
It's bizarre. I spent all of yesterday and will spend all of tomorrow in a studio with two of my musical idols, and they were humming my songs to themselves. I think i'm gonna go lie down...
Metal Malcolm
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Twice in as many days! A miracle for me!! This IS meant to start discussion - have essay do in two weeks so hit me with it!! women's mags regulating women's body image. Went on the comsopolitan website cos I am not paying for shit mags!! And it is sponsored by 'Village's Cosmetic Centre'. Now I am all in favour of reconstructive surgery etc but not sure about cosmetic!! What do people think of a cosmetic surgery sponsoring such a site?? And can I use your comments in my essay?? And to what extent do women's mags regulate women's bodies?? Cheers!!
Rae <redhotraepepper@yahoo.co.uk>
Bangor , Wales -
I caught a US Machine Head show, when they were playing with Fear Factory, Chimeara (sp?) and Ill Nino. Damn good show, even though the cops broke it up before FF tood the stage... they didn't have a permit for "loud profanity" or something. - apparently, when MH asked the whole crowd to scream "Fuck You!", it could be heard 2 miles away...
Chris
Fresno, CA USA -
This is not meant to start a what's hot and what's not thing so cool it - simply my Expression of what I've been up to. Went to see Machine Head on Friday night - what a top night it was too!! Supported by Sugercoma (who I'm not too sure about), Thumb (who are pretty good) and Il Nino (who are darn good). Was a top night provided, and DANCING did occur!! Until 7am in the morning to be precise (we had to wait in the club and dance all night because the earliest train was 7.20 - what a crying shame!!!). Anyone else see the UK MH gigs?? What about you Feeline??
Rae <redhotraepepper@yahoo.com>
Bangor, Wales -
ahahahaha that's just funny. wow. damn you guys for being an opening band.. oh lordy.
stefanie
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i know im late with this, but can anyone tell me what month/whos on the cover of that seventeen mag theSTART is in? thanks!
travis
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Someones bitter? Are there really 3 i's in your last name?
s
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So what is it with you guys, trying to feed off other bands success all the time. When you gonna put out something good yourself, something worthy of listening to. Your music sucks. You open for band, without even being on the bill, then go out and pick up the chicks who came to see real band. You guys should get a real life of your own, and not work off others success. What did you accomplish by being on tour with these bands. You didn't get payed for playing that cramp you call music. Nobody was dumb enough to give you any money for what you guys did. just wondering... if so can you point me in thier direction, I like to rip off these people too.
Ronda <ronda_wiiliams@hotmail.com>
New York, NY USA -
therapy? SUCKS! lol
kt
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My plan for last night was to go to a meal, then see a local band. went to the meal, got very #drunk on free wine, then went to a local nightclub and woke up this morning with a stupidly large hangover. Studio tomorrow! Yay! Bronagh - You poor misguided child. THERAPY? ARE THE GREATEST BAND EVER! Now lets have none of that traitorous talk around here.....
Metal Malcolm
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(damn that lack of line spacing)
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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jen jen - ACK! I'm so jealous! Rachel Stamp STILL haven't played here! =*( malcolm - I'm going to see Therapy? tonight, they better play some old stuff! I'm actually only reaaaally going to see Defenestration, I kind of went off Therapy? after Troublegum!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -
my head rocks uncontrollably back and forth. i cant control those goddamn sounds---the ones that creep up on you---the ones that catch you by the toes; by suprise others say. to hell with the others! coppola can flap his arms all he wants! so WHAT if it doesn't make any sense? so WHAT if the endings' all up in the air? GO FOR IT! never FEAR! don't be AFRAID! maybe it was because his wife trained a 16 milimeter camera on him all his waking hours...i could only wish to be so lucky! the HORROR! the HORRRORRRRR! marlon was so much HEAVIER than they anticipated, but they WORKED IT OUT GODDAMMIT!
kt
USA -
the horror...the horror...
kt
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my plan...well, i have no money, so i stayed in, watched mallrats and drew. check it out.
kenickie
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my plan for the night---HEINEKEN, MARIJUANA and APOCOLYPSE NOW REDUX!!! with a 54 inch screen and DIGITAL FUCKING SURROUND SOUND. i'm off to vietnam---be back later
kt
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dunno if any of you are geeky enough to read comic books like me, but damn if DK2 wasn't a good read...
kenickie
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i just listened to Tonto's expanding head band's JETSEX and i'm still reeling
kt
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Hey all! I dont post here often enough but anyway, I have an odd question to ask. I need your collective opinions. I'm dancing to Shakedown for my championship round of competition - I need your opinion on what I should wear. And, secondly, what does Aimees hair look like at the moment? Any input would be great - I've just got no idea at the moment. I've got two weeks to get it together. Thanks guys***
Liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
The Land of Oz -
the start is my favorite band the guys are georgous, aimee is my role model and a goddess and of course their music inspired me in so many ways i love everything about them and hope to one day have the chance to meet them give them a giant hug and thank them for everything, "rise up dance to a different beat"
startfanatic <snt864@aol.com>
hauppauge, NY 11788 -
KT - no problem, You may all find it funny that I accidentaly sent that to my mother as well. I don't think she was impressed.....as for the phone call, i'll mail you soon...
Metal Malcolm
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Maria! thanks! i posted about the 17magazine thingie-ma-jigger. so thanks again, i guess now i'll have to go pick it up myself.
natalie
ny -
hello, i'm in uni really bored! might go home and cook something for dinner! - Malcolm, thanx for the mail, twas very funny! i bought my rachel stamp tickets today too, YAY!!! and another thing, i'm going away at christams (thailand) and i won't post for a few days soooo, until i go, you're stuck with me, writing complete bollocks and odd little messages! xxxxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -
hey Malcolm that email was hilarious. send your phone number to that same address and i'll leave a message on your machine. if you dont have one i'll just let it ring until your neighbors get pissed and answer the phone if your not there. death penalty eh? texans have traditionally been one-sided on that issue. its all about the vindication...i wouldn't be the least bit suprised if there is a banner on the ceiling above the deathbed in the juice-room at Huntsville Maximum Correctional that says "REMEMBER THE ALAMO/GOLIAD, YOU MOTHERFUCKERS"
kt
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I just totally finished writting a 8-10 page research paper....so much stress was involved.
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
talking about college, i'm currently writting an 8 page paper! pro and con death penalty
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
don't know if anyone posted this yet but to a previous question asked: YES, TheStart are in 'Seventeen' Magazine. i read it. theres a pic of the band, then says theStart are Orgy crossed with an 80's band with a chick singer i can't remember who. about how 'communion' is about alien abduction disguised as a love song and that eno is the band mascott. and that amiee is a great reason why you sould listen to theStart. This whole thing was under a title of new worldly music or something...you know what? I;m gonna just go buy the mag, i got paid today. i'll buy the mag (cause i do read that stuff) and i'll tell you exactly what it says OK!!!
maria <sparks_1@hotmai.com>
covina, ca usa -
Hey Malcolm- Best of luck my friend!!!:)~*Yesterday, I went ice skating...I fell on my cunt 7 times, once I landed on my face...ahhhh! PAIN!!!! I had so much fun though...any embarrassing ice skating stories???
-erika
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Well, Last night I interviewed Therapy? the greatest band ever, and on Sunday my bands recording a demo with Paul Yeadon from Bivouac and Johnny Carter from Pitchshifter! Not a bad week for meeting your idols.....now if only theSTART would tour....
Metal Malcolm
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i can't reply to anything on that board. i can only start topics. every time i try to reply to something this damned "internet" contraption makes beepy noises at me and tells me to 'complete all fields', even though all fields have been aptly completed. *sigh*
kt
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kt- i got it... i read it and was like "huh?" than i saw it was you. hehe.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
Thanks Lorie :)
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
Maria, to answer your question on which band it was that played after the scene where Tin Tin dies in "The Crow" is My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. That song is also on the soundtrack,too...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA -
hyp - belated happy birthday. sorry it wasn't a good one. kt - well, you know, we're used to you. you gotta give them time.
maria - thanks! i'm really pleased with it.
kenickie
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hey you got front page kenickie! pic looks great! *hey i was wondering if anyone knew the name of the band that played in "The Crow" right after Tin Tin died? or some info.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
oi...how is everyone? my life is full of pointless, stressful drama right now, but what else is new? Ya know, this woman walks into my job today asking for George Harrison cd's. we sold out friday morning (ugh, how morbid is this?)...so do you have any idea what she says?? "you should have anticipated his death and got more cds ahead of time so you wouldnt sell out" the worst part is that she was so serious when she said that. i had the strongest urge to smack the sh!t out of her! anywayz someone informed me that theSTART is in the new issue of 17 magazine. i wouldnt know cos i dont read it , but if anyone could confirm or deny this statement i would appreciate it. ALSO i finally got my hands on Jonah's new project, New End Original. i'm in love with this cd already and i just got it a few hours ago. theSTART should tour with N.E.O. man that would make me so happy. much love...guys i miss you! human, you too!
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -
hi guys,I still think a song with fred would be HUGE!
anthony 818,burbank!!
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or just leave the cursed ones behind
s
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look out Dave, they'll set fire to your clothes, as well!
kt
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be there as soon as possible
s
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woops
kt
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i'm sorry but those kids on the other board are just IMPOSSIBLE. i mean...what's there to be confused about?
kt
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i'm sorry but those kids on the other board are just IMPOSSIBLE. i mean...what's there to be confused about?
kt
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Dave- We'd be there now, playing, staying at your house, eating all your food, and maybe even using your car! if we could:)
scott
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happy birthday to me! it's not really all that happy though. tragedy strikes my family yet again this year. hope everyone is well. take care.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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i first heard about the start through incubus fans - i really enjoy the sounds of a female vocalist - keep playing!
michelle <bluehalo@optonline.net>
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thank you scott and ellen. :)i'm cold, hungry and bored. and i think i've lost all interested in university again. oh well, less than a year to go.
kenickie
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Hey.... great music you're making there... just thought you should know... I was wondering, do you have any plans about doing an European tour anytime soon... I live in Denmark (as you can see), and just thought you should know you have fans over here too... so... answer me soon... or the "no-answer" will come back to you threefold! See ya. DavE
DavE <mudd2010@hotmail.com>
Copehagen, Denmark -
cool animation :)
Ellen
costa mesa, ca -
That is a great picture!
scott
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anyone know of any websites or other resources that might provide info on how to volunteer to go help refugees in afghanastan or pakistan? send me an e-mail with any deets. thanks!
sean garcia <seanito76@hotmail.com>
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thanks jennifer. : )
kenickie
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That's awesome kenickie! The color version looks so cool.
Jennifer
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cool amimation page---way to go human!
-erika
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hey, check out the front page of this site...
kenickie
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yo Malcolm...pass her the joint, dude
kt
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you know how sometimes you write something, and you submit it to be looked at but you refuse to let anyone you know to see it because it's intimate or personal, serious? like you do certain things when certain people are around because you DON'T know them and their opinion doesn't matter to you, but your not like that in front of people you do know because you value their opinion, they matter to you. (i can't seem to put this into correct terms). but if thats so, who really knows you? the stranger who see's you without reserve because you don't care about them? or the friend who you are shy to because what they think matters to you? (i'm thinking about this as i write). yet if this were a good friend you wouldn't be shy, maybe nervous. but your never nervous around that stranger. so who really knows you? (it's just a thought, does anyone have any idea what i'm talking about? or has the answer?).
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
GEORGE HARRISON R.I.P.! cause i'm the TAXMAN! YEAAAAAAH I'M THE TAX MAAAAAAAAN!
kt
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cheers malcolm! the colour one may see light of day soon. just waiting on something. : )
kenickie
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Kenickie - Only one word can be used in such a situation. Phat. That is pretty fucking amazing. KT - You can call me if you want, but it'll probably be quite a dull conversation unless i'm wasted. My number is....Yeah right..mail me if you want to chat. I can passs on my number then..
Metal Malcolm
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Leave me alone
orgyinmytv <orgyinmytv@yahoo.com>
North hillls, ca USA -
thanks everyone! it can be hard to keep someone's likeness while still doing stuff in your own style, so i'm glad y'all like it. the colour one looks much better, i might let you guys see it soon... ; ) kt - international phone calls are horrendous unless you get a phone card or something over here. i have a deal, that gets me calls to the US for 3pence (around 5c) a minute.
kenickie
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hey...i wanna talk to one of you UK kids. i gotta free international service phone card and i realized i've never spoken to someone outside the country before; yall are the only ones i really know of, so if any of you are ever bored enough, i'll read your fortune for you. i dont know about you UK folks, but over here in the good old USA that's what we do with our long distance calls...usually for just $4.99 a minute for each additional minute after your initial introductory free offer of five minutes expires. but how 'bout i do it for free? eh? Miss Cleo's got nothin on me.
kt
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holy christ, kenickie---you did that? that's like jacket-cover caliber shit, man!
kt
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kenickie- that's really awesome!! looks exactly like them! very cool.
Tap <oneireland@Yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
Ooh, that looks great, Kenickie!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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That looks really cool kenickie! I'm sure it'll look great in color.
Jennifer
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kt- that is the funniest thing i've heard ALL day!!! and i was in a cruddy mood (long story). thanks for cheering me up! ;-)
~Tap!
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
hey guys, click on the link and tell me what you think...it's only got zip tone on it at the moment (little black dots to look like grey) but i'll be doing a colour version soon. which is why i need to know hair colour. it's hard to tell from photographs. : )
kenickie <kenickie@thedreaming.fsnet.co.uk>
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malc - sound onstage never corresponds to sound out front. as long as i can hear the rest of the band enough to actually play the same songs, i'm ok. ; )
kenickie
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ZwAn?? Yes! Saw GlassHOUse show aaaand RoXXy. Amazing! :-)
Chris.....? <enterpr0tagonist@cs.com>
Fresno, CA USA -
KT - you're right, that is scary. Do it and scan the results so we can see. Kenickie - No problem. The gig was weird. I have no idea how we sounded, but all the other bands sounded good. However about half an hour after we played I just started feeling really low for no reason, and the rest of the night I had a face, as my guiarist described it, "Like a smacked arse". So I can't really comment on how good it was. The bassist did snap his e string during the first song.....
Oh, and everyone go to the new speakout. There's a post from Echo about Merch......do it now!
Metal Malcolm
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Hahaha! Kt - That is one scaaary thought!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Any one get to see Zwan play? If so what did yall think of it?
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -
seemingly random question, but i need to know the answer for something: what colour is the band's hair? has aimee still got the blonde/black streaky style?malc, sorry i couldn't be at the gig. housemate split up with her boyfriend and needed consoling.
"i like escalators, man, because escalators don't break down. they just become stairs."
kenickie
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I know I said that I wouldn't post about this again, but oh well, you'll get over it, hopefully. Anyways, I know very well that Aimee and Gwen are two completely different people. I happen to also enjoy No Doubt's music, especially Beacon Street Collection, that album is the shit. Anyways, I was not saying that all of their music sounds like theSTART, (How stupid do you think I am! Nevermind, don't answer that) I said that ONE of their new songs sounded more than a little like theSTART. And no I never said that the song was "Hey Baby" which by the way has to contain one of the worst chorus' in the present music scene, next to "I'm a slave for you" by Britney Spears. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Ms. Spears herself didn't write the "Hey Baby" chorus now that she is a "talented" song writer. Once again I'm rambling, sorry, I don't know the name of the song, all Gwen said was that it was a brand new song off of "Rock Steady" that hadn't been released yet. They were just playing it at their concert and it sounded A LOT like theSTART.
Jennifer
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here was a thought that took hours of composition out of boredom at work all alone in the dark: if i copy my face on a xerox machine, then copy the copy, then copy the copy of the copy, and so forth ad infinitum, will i erase my own head? i'm too afraid to try.
kt
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oh my holy christ its frigid here! below freezing and its gonna drop more. power went out at the video store for hours; i had a hundred-fifty flicks to return but the computer was down, so now half the town's got late charges. aaack. texan folks' blood is too thin for this cold of weather. i miss july and the one-hundred-ten degrees that come and go with it every year. i dunno how you northern folks can handle this shit---its unbearable.
kt
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JEEZUS. I haven't been here in a while (too long!), and I notice the Aimee/Tairrie thing is back again. Why the hell are people so obsessed with that? They go out of their way to type an essay on how they're different...but I never saw anyone here comparing them!?! Bleh. One thing though, if you're going to slag off "Gorgeous" so many times, please PLEASE learn how to spell it. *cringe*
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -
hey kids.
Aimee posted on the new board the other day for whoever asked where she was.
as for the Gwen thing... i admire both Gwen and Aimee *Aimee a lot more of course* for their style and originality. and i have to say when i heard the new no doubt song (hey baby) i thought of Aimee and it made me smile. hehe. the song is all about being the only girl in the band and stuff. that's why it reminded me of Aimee not cause of the actual sound of the song. but i haven't heard the rest of the record... i can never figure out why people say Aimee is like Gwen. they're both two completely different people!
~Tap!
Tap <oneireland@Yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
while i think aimee and gwen's voices have vague similarities, i don't think their music is comparable. i would say theSTART sound more akin to a modern-day blondie... no doubt's sound is influenced by very different types of music. eh why am i posting about this?
stefanie
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This is the last I'm going to post on this because I don't want to begin another my ruin theSTART discussion. I don't think that Gwen's new goal in life is to become Aimee. However, the new song that I heard sounded so much like theSTART that it was sad.
Jennifer
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it's possible that the guy from hundred reasons has the most irritating, grating voice ever.
kenickie
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Malcolm--luck!!! Check your box as well! Ahhhhhh---Tori Amos, I missed her..what a tragedy! SHe is another bad ass girl~
-erika
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i still wonder if any pics were saved from the shirt-burning...
kt
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I saw you guys open for Weezer at the New World in Chicago and I wanted to appoligize for the way all the fans treated you. I thought you were bad ass and I'd love to see you in Chicago again. Weezer fans are real tuff to please, I know my boyfriend is one of them.
Lisa <www.lr@workingclasshero.com>
chicago, IL US -
ya'll ok? malcolm, why you scared? i drummed for the hermit on sunday, soooo funny, he's really shit! check his website, i think is www.the-hermit.net or .co.uk hows things going with you all anyway? i'm going to see One Minute Silence on thursday and machine head in a couple of weeks so that should be good, and Malcolm, if you can get hold of a Tori Amos ticket for any venue, i'll pay you double what you paid! i need one!!!
jen jen <oxyjen@hotmail.com>
manx, uk -
Hey y'all...it is hetting a little empty around here isn't it? No posts from the band in ages...where are they all? Human? You still here? Erika, check your inbox Gig on wednesday...god i'm nervous...
KT - Yeah, they should...but what about that other song as well? Maybe a medley of the two?
Metal Malcolm
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HEY AIMEE ITS SHORTY AND THE OTHER GUY FROM SAN ANTONIO CONTACT US NEXT TIME YOU ARE IN TOWN AND TAKE CARE
SHORTYSATX <juneshelbyw@aol.com>
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Jennifer, Gwen copping off Amiee, is the dumbest thing i ever heard. Their different and can't be compared. end of discussion. Any one know what theStart's been up to lately?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -
i still think you guys should do that one song. anyone ever heard that song?
kt
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when I saw theSTART at the Troubadour I believe they played a new song that they had written the night before...so....is there a new cd to soon be coming out? I hope.....although I wish they would release Glimmer Man so the whole entire world can hear it because it was the song that I remembered from the first performance that I had seen them at and made me go to another show of thiers.
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
IncubusPardonMe- I think it's the other way around. Gwen reminds me of Aimee! I went to see U2 on fri. who by the way put on an AMAZING show. And No Doubt opened for them. Gwen was kind enough to unveil a brand new No Doubt song off of "Rock Steady" to us. As soon as I heard the synth's in the song I knew that Gwen had been spending entirely too much time listening to theSTART. This song sounded so much like theSTART that it was ridiculious. I always admired Gwen for her individuality, however that night she showed how much she really has. I was very dissapointed. Oh yeah, she's also now doing her hair just like Claudia from Lunarclick.
Jennifer
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the board seems to be a bit empty...don't you think? Malcolm...where have you been?...write to me sometime--i'll be sending you a letter real soon love..xoxo to all
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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i don't think it's weezer fans, per se - i'm a weezer fan, and i don't suck! shut up, i don't. no, i think it's more people at gigs who aren't willing to move about to stuff they don't know, or people they didn't come to see.
kenickie
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o my god i have just hear your stuff 2day u guys r amazing. i have always loved human waste project since my best friend showed me then a few years ago and i heared that this band had aimee so iwas like god i want 2 hear them and i have have and u guys have not let me down!! well make sure u guys play in england sometime luv u guys loads letto
letto
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I LOVE YOU GUYS.... i still remember the good times of HWP.!! I LOVE YOU AIMEE!!
Joshua Szentpaly <fjbp@msn.com>
Miami, Fl USA -
Be fair KT, to the unexperienced, you'ld be terrifying. That post about cannibals? Come on! But we love ya all the same. As for weezer fans, Weezer have good songs, and people who have good taste in music don't all suck.Just ahame about the few....
Metal Malcolm
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Hey,theSTART kicks major ass! i saw you Nov.6th show in Des Moines,IA at the Val Air Ballroom with my fav band incubus, you remind me of gwen,MRS. Echos from no dout, jus wanted to say thanks and i really enjoyed you show, you got great energy and so much to bring.
IncubusPardonMe
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i want to talk about the hypothetical suckery of weezer fans---that seems to be a real big hit with the kids on the other board right now. and Malcolm, what the hell do you mean i'd probably scare them away? ok folks, be honest...do i scare you all? i mean, really; do i SCARE you all?
kt
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i couldnt get high with that frail little twerp...he'd probably be all like "we can't do that---it supports the bloody harvesting of the innocent cannabis plants!"
kt
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good evening ladies and jellyspoons, hows you all doin? i'm mashed already and its only 7:50pm! YAYYYY!!! i dyed my hair purple again today too gonna go now, bye bye my lovelys! xXxXxXx
jen jen
manx, uk -
How about we set light to a large stack of Skunk inside Moby's flat, in the form of amny many spliffs, and get stoned with him Whilst Prcelain (THE best song when you're stoned) is played in the background? Any objections? Sorry, it's been a weird night............
Metal Malcolm
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i say we should solve this problem by setting fire to the dumpster outside Moby's east village flat. we can all agree on that, can't we? eh?
kt
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Very good points made. The thing is, all the people who are on here regularly are very open minded and are willing to listen to most people's opinions. You get random people coming on here and dissing either Aimee or Tairrie and the regulars usually just think "Not again..." If you look at the people being bitchy, and then scan down a few pages, you're unlikely to see their names again. Debate is good, but the subject is getting dull. You're right, both are amazingly talented women, I seriously doubt either ripped the other off, but they were close, is it any suprise there'll be similarities?Anyway, let's just leave it alone. On the other hand, where did you see the video? Must see video...must see video....
Metal Malcolm
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I am a huge Start fan and a My Ruin fan and I have been a huge follower and fan of both Manhole and HWP and Tura Satana and Hero for fucks sake.All I can say are here are the real facts as I KNOW them to be true for you poor misinformed people on the whole Tarrie B vs Aimee thingy...Okay Tairrie started Manhole and AImee was a back up singer in HWP (I know because I have a demo of the first HWP songs and there is a guy singing and AImee is a back up singer it was not really her band . Tairre was a rapper who put her own band together and yes it was very influenced by rap and she has even said in interviews that RATM and Body Count were more her inspiration for doing the band thing. Manhole was a very dark band itself. NOt a bunch of crappy rap lyrics but she did touch on some serious issues like rape and abortion and even beauty standards. She also had some deep personally painful lyrics which were very heavy. Tairre has stated in many interviews that the reason her second record had suck a drastic change from those issues to far more personal topics was because of her relationship with Burton Bell the singer of Fear Factory which had been an ongoing thing even as she wrote the Tura Satana record.Her reference to "One Night In Spain" had nothing to do with AImee(who meant Spain refering to the band "Spain" and listening to the cd or something like that? Tarrie's lyric was "One night in Spain-One day in Italy..you took away everything you've given me" talking to Burton. She has explained her lyrics hundreds of times in mags and online interviews and even in emails because I wrote her and asked her what Luna was about and she wrote back and told me. The other song you are talking about is called 'Flux" not E-LUX and if you look up the word Flux in your dictionary and listen to the lyrics you will see it is about something very personal like her band I believe she said in some mag. I think that AImee is an extra ordinary singer and in the same sentance so is Tairre B. They are very similar in many ways but oh so different in others. If you remember it was Tura Satana who took HWP on tour and helped spread the word about AImee and company. That is how I found out about HWP. Later I did crazy research and got old demos from trades and pictures and even a video from HWP that I think may even have Tarrie in it if i'm not mistaken(I could be wrong but there is a girl who looks a lot like Tairrie in it).Tairrie has always said she is not a goth chick. Black hair and pale skin do not always equal goth ya know. AImee however was right? Yeah and so what ! I saw HWP in Metal Hammer talking about metal and Mike Tempesta was the guitarist and he told me they were a metal band. Yeah so what now AImee is new wave/punkish pop and Tairrie has stopped rapping and is screaming over stoner metal? God get over it. They both fucking never cease to amaze me on the way they come back stronger and more intense than ever. Tairrie has never been shitty to Aimee in Kerrang. Infact she always mentioned AImee in good ways. I have seen her talk about plenty of people like Jessicka and Sugarcoma and even Kittie in high regard so that is not fair. Why is she made out to be such a bitch when she is not?HWP broke up and 2 months later Tura SAtana did and I don't think it was Tarrie trying to copy Aimee. People are so mean and it sucks. Can't you just grow up with this?
drowned girl
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I loved what I saw at the Denver Weezer show in September. The crowd didn't show much love, causing me to think them to be a bunch of ingrates. I got to meet the Start after the show, and they were way cool, down to earth people. They were understanding of the crowd, saying "Hey, we're new on the scene, and everyone's impatient cuz they want to see Weezer. Aimee's stage presence was great, despite suffering a little problem with the altitude...the other guys straight rocked, too. Keep up the great work, guys!
Lacey <weezergirl@gwe.net>
Montrose, CO usa -
im stoned and im lissing to shakedown the keybourd sucks but the lyrics are great
i dont know im getting more stoned <um>
asdf, asdf the same country -
never get big because all the people that like big bands piss me off. its a good band but get ride of the keybourd i dont like the keybourd unless its the doors becuase ther stoners and the alowed to 420
piss off <i dont know>
nirvana, i snot know the country thats being bombed im too stones to remmember -
thats the thing---nobody really decided anything. they were just sort of spawned out of Full House as an all out, well-oiled, churning grinding machine of a homevideo sales empire. their loadef but you can if you try hard enough, see the strings attached to their rubberized limbs. theyre like 15 now or something. i'm suprised they weren't put to sleep and preserved at puberty.
kt
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blergh. who decided the olsen twins should be famous?
kenickie
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...i think theStart should do a cover of the Count Five's "Psychotic Reaction". i think that would sound unbelievably cool.
kt
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i wonder if Weezer is aware that one of their songs is used in its entirety during the opening credits of the newest Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen flick, entitled "Holiday in the Sun".
kt
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Happy Gobble Gobble day! May you all be blessed with joy today--and let us give thanks for all that we have and don't! xoxo
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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kenickie: haha. yeah i talked to your mom for like 2 minutes. i figured it was you who added me.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hey you guys are pretty cool i just heard u for the first time and i really like your music!!! aimee your a good singer!!!!!!
Jess Curtis <saturated420x@aol.com>
centreville, va usa!!!!!! -
malcolm - hehe. it depends on the venue. there's this great one near where we live where all the punk kids go (kids being the operative word, most of them are younger than us) and they come out to see us play. it's cool, we supported the peacocks (vaguely famous rockabilly punk band) and a few people said that more people came to see us than them. it's always nice. ; ) plus, supporting the peacocks was good, because they're a great live band.
kenickie
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200-300 crowds? Did I hear someone shout "Support Act"? No? Maybe it was just me then...... ;o)
Metal Malcolm
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This Aimee Echo vs, Tarrie B. thing is really funny because I dont think anyone from the starts board has ever gone onto My ruins board to talk shit on Tarrie, when there are facts that cant be ingnored. I loved HWP and through them I found manhole/tura satana/my ruin and this Aimee ripped off Tarrie thing is just false. Manhole were a rap metal band and damn good at it, HWP, goth metal band. Manhole changes their name to Tura Satana and with it comes a change in sound and look, a little more goth less rap.hmmmm. Tura Satana puts out a new record in late 98 with lyrics like "one night in spain" and "flux" or was that "e-lux"?E-lux was recorded in 96.(I read the liner notes in every record) Now,HWP breaks up, I saw their last show at the House of Blues with...Tura Satana opening. Two weeks later Tura Satana breaks up, and who does she hire to help her write songs for her new band, Jeff Schartoff of HWP. Aimee did'nt hire Marcello or Brian, she started a new band. As far as Tarrie saying in Kerannng that Aimee rips her off, it's kind af sad because she obviously stole lyrics from aimee for her Tura Satana record and had to cover for it. She only got away with it because her record came out before HWP's record in the U.K even though e-lux came out in the U.S a year before. I'm not picking on Tarrie, I think she's cool but to say Aimee rips her off just ain't right.
david <you'll just pick on me anyway>
Los angeles, Ca -
especially ones that can't play their instruments. whoo, hair dye again a success.
kenickie
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goth bands are just no fun
kt
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malcolm - i will definitely try! and yeah, we've had gigs like that. i remember one gig we played, the first band had a huge crowd, and then the second band, an awful, awful goth band, wiped out the audience completely. so by the time we got on, there was no-one there. nowadays we play to about 200-300 people, so i'm not complaining. ; ) it's all worth it.
kenickie
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Basically we had 20 mins each, and one band decided they were gonna play 40. Which meant we didn't get on stage till 5 to 11. It's supposed to close at 11. Luckily we got an extra 15 mins, but half the crowd had gone by then. Kenickie, we're playing the old vic on the 28th, please make it to that, we need all the help we can get..
Metal Malcolm
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I would just like to thank theSTART for putting out some great music that I listen to like every hour at the hour and also for putting on some amazing shows! They are like the only non punk band I like. They are really nice people and they are so inspiring....after the concert I wanted our band to hurry up and play....so if theSTART reads this a BIG THANKS to you!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
hyp - i added you on msn, and then it appears you spoke to my mom on it (i had msn loaded on the computer when i went back home in summer)! sorry about that. ; )
kenickie
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i apologize for the "iggnorace is bliss" comment i apparently made. i just came ont h board fur the first time in ages n saw the attack against aimee/theSTART blah blah blah. i wanted to say what i felt, i did. end of story. at least im suddenly noticed on this thing...
steFanie RaYna
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malcom > why was it? my band have now disbanded, so thats good, i went to see Tricky, he was really good, even though he stood with his back to the crowd most of the time! i too have met tairrie i have also met aimee, and they are two of the nicest people ever, don't run them off each other, their both good at what they do, even if its different styles and both are extremly gorgeous!!!! mmmmmmmmm
jen jen
manx, uk -
malcolm - ah, maybe a good thing i couldn't get down, then?
kenickie
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Last night's gig was just the most fucking atrocious night I can remember in a long time. :o( Ahh, at least that's off my chest...
Metal Malcolm
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theSTART fucking rock! They're gonna go straight to the top. Raw power combined with aggressive energy. Rock on
Alasdair Locke <alasdair.locke@emerthames.com>
West Sussex, England -
I miss Aimee. She hasn't read my eMail yet *cries*.. I bet they're all busy people....but I just wanna know when their next show is gunna be. *sigh*. I missed the homecoming. I wanted to go s0o0o0 bad. Although the lovely Katie and Amanda were both in attendance *yayness*. But they're not me are they? Nuh uh. Soooo....with that being said, lol it didn't need to be said at ALL actually. I'll shut up now...hmm.
Linds
Hesperia, CA -
i went to bed at 12:30am and it was perfectly clear!! but i got up at 4am to see the meteor shower and it was so cloudy you couldn't see anything! ugh!! just my lucky! haha.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
Aimee has inspired/helped me so much. She is a wonderful human being and she knows that all the people who usually post here admire her. With that said i'm not going to waste my energy defending Aimee OR theSTART. Not one person is better than the next. That was then...the PAST. The future is now. Live it. human! the meteor shower took place at 5am here and i had to be up and running for work at 10am. Did you get any pictures?
natalie...again
ny -
I saw the meteor shower and it was absolutely amazing. It was really cool because all these people from my campus gathered into this field to watch it. It was kinda like this whole bonding experience even though we were all strangers. The meteors were absolutely beautiful. It was by far the best show I have ever seen!
Jennifer
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About the Aimee clones...the one i saw not only dressed like her, but everything looked so similar. Her face, height...everything. The next video should be aimee and a bunch of clones...like i dunno maybe one of them steals cars and they all get busted. ok nevermind.
natalie
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oops.malc - ok, if i can find someone to come with, i'll be there.
kenickie
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human - aha, now there's someone who's not been around these parts recently. ; ) i heard it was incredible, i wish we could have seen it here in the uk.
kenickie
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Anyone here witness the unbelievable meteor storm ???? ~human
human <human@thestart.org>
LS, CA USA -
Kenickie, we're the supposed Headliners!!!! Yay us! So about quater past ten-ish. I'll be wearing a Dead Kennedy's tee, come say hello. As for the whole Aimee Tairrie thing, the arguement is pointless. I have met Tarrie and she's a very funny, very kind and talented individual. I loved Tura Satana, and while My Ruin aren't my Favourite band, they're certainly good. If we're gonna diss Aimee's lyrics, we really have no idea what we're talking about. "One Night In Spain" saved my life. Without that song I would be dead. I think that says something for the lyrical content personally. As for being staged (And in no way take this as an attack on Tairrie, it isn't) whan I saw my ruin last, she came out into dark green/blue light, recited the intro from the last album, and they went into Beauty Fiend. I wouldn't call that spontaneous. They're both equally fantastic, just differnet. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!
Jeez, some people.
Wish me luck at the gig all..see ya soon.
Metal Malcolm
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malc - what time are you playing tonight?
kenickie
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My thoughts exactly Fiona
Jennifer
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH.
Fiona
London, UK -
My Ruin isnt all that great.
Jen
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third time? hahaha. oh how i wish the count was that small.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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this is like the third time...ignorance is a bliss--
shut up already!!!!!!!!!
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how many times do we have to go thru this aimee vs. tairrie thing on here?
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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goodness...i cannot believe someone is trying to argue why tarrie b is better than aimee echo. they are both very strong front women with splendid voices! there is no competition there. i enjoy both women and both of their past n current projects in music. to critisize aimee for not being a "metal girl" anymore is simply ignorant. aimee has said herself she enjoys singing rather than screaming aggression. everyone evolves, u cannot expect anyone from past bands to make a new band that is identical to the old. people need to move on, and see what they can accomplish next. your opinions are your opinions, but stop being so silly as to claim one singer is better than another. whats next? explaining why britney is "better" than christina? each to their own. relax and put ur agression elsewhere. the heretics are a commuinity and we dont appreciate iggnorant people looking for an argument.
SteFanie RaYna <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -
goddamn...look what "expressing your opinion" starts, eh? LOL
kt
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i never see any aimee clones. i feel i'm getting a raw deal here.
kenickie
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Natalie and Liesey, I too have seen an Aimee clone! My waitress at Denny's the other night looked EXACTLY like Aimee, so much that it creeped me out. This whole Aimme clone thing is beginning to get rather wierd.
Jennifer
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i gotta agree - why come to a band's website and attack them? i don't get it, it's a waste of time and energy. i object to the idea that aimee's lyrics are less valid because they are not about anger or hatred or pain. "shakedown" as an attack on alienated society (see marx, ritzer) has as much to say as, i dunno, "speak and destroy". both are valid, both have their place.
also, why is it a bad thing if someone wants to explore a different style of music? one of the greatest bands in the world was the result of one band ending and a new band being formed from the ashes and reinventing itself (joy division/new order).
kenickie
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I know I shouldn't let this get to me but it does, this has nothing to do with tairrie or my ruin this has to do with coming on the board of a band and bashing them, what's the ponit? So you can piss off people like me? Your attacks weren't based on fact, so maybe you should get those right before you come on here accusing people of all sorts of garbage. "If i'm not mistraken AImee used to be a so called metal chick(yes?)now she is all nu-waved out and tryna do this ?" I am sorry but you ARE mistaken, aimee never said she was a metal chick.. she has never professed to be metal. so maybe you should read up on things like this before you shoot your mouth off. There was a post way back on this board that dealt with this whole thing, maybe you should read it. This topic is old. grrrr
lauRa
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Why the competition between theStart and My Ruin all of a sudden?!?! They sound nothing like each other - only both happen to have female vocalists... so if that is the case then why not compare them to, uh, Shania Twain and every other female that has ever sung with a band... JESUS.
Fiona
London, UK -
Ok, well um... I just think that they are both great in their own right. I mean, why are we even comparing them? Is there that many similarities other than that they are both very cool girls that front very great bands? Is it so horrible that they have grown in different directions? The choice is personal of course and no one can hold that against anyone else - but I just think that they are both damn fantastic! I think that they deserve to stand alone and apart from one another - getting all the credit they deserve - not having to be seen as scrambling for popularity. Thats just my two cents anyway, Liesey** PS - I saw an Aimee Clone too!! Although near no-one has heard of her here - this girl was at my University - same hair, clothes - the works! I've seen her a few times and now and I'm convinced - Aimee is spawning Clones! :p
Liesey <purrsnickety33>
Australia -
Dearest Start fans, My friend loves your band and that's all well and fine but personally I prefer My Ruin. Let me tell you why. I enjoy many female singers and even female based bands(which there are few and far between) but when someone comes along(and lets remember that Tairrie B has been putting out records since um...some of you were probably still wearing your shiny safety pins firmly attached to your wet diapers)who is herself and open with her art I respect that. It takes guts to spill open your heart and talk about things that really affect you rather than how "Georgeous" someone is. I am not trying to down your personal Gwen Goddess Aimee but if there is anyone who really thinks that AImee Echo's lyrics are so much more real or inspiring than Tairrie B you must be tripping. AImee is great at what she does but it is by no menas unique or new and inventive. Isn't this the same gal that was in HWP and went tour with Tura Satana a few years ago? I remember reading a Kerrang magazine from the Uk where Aimee and Tairrie were in it together and also a review where they basically said Aimee got her whole routine from Tairrie, I don't thing Tairrie's stage performance is anything close to a routine. If you think what she is doing is acted out you must be kidding because that is about as real as it gets. Try Kittie if you want nu-metal. They are the nu-metal low budget My Ruin. Tairrie has been doing rock music for many years. I do not personally know her guitarist MIck but that guy is just about as Randy Rhoads as it gets. I have never seen him busting Korn moves or staring at the ground like every other nu- metal guitar player does. The drummer Yael can run circles around most of the male drummers in the rock world and Tairrie can do the same with half the men. I don't know much about the new guy Kenny because it was his first show so I can only say he rocked pretty damn hard but I need more time to really get into him. If you think that Miss B is a rip off then you have your head up your ass. She is very original and the clothing she handmakes is very cool along with the home videos, fanzines,jewlery,buttons and candles. I appreciated that someone would take that kind of time with the fans to be so personal and I support her all the way. My Ruin are not n a major label and don't get tours and shit handed to them like some people. They don't have the kind of money it takes to buy on certain high profile tours like some people but that's okay because I can still be a fan and support them for all the right reasons. I don't think Tairrie is always angry. She looks happier now than she ever did in the past when I saw her because she smiles and dances and has fun on stage. I think that's because of her band. She does scream loud and get violent but that's who she is also. Just because she delivers her lyrics aggressive does not mean she is just acting or always mean. If i'm not mistraken AImee used to be a so called metal chick(yes?)now she is all nu-waved out and tryna do this ? Sorry but I don't get it. I saw The Start 2 times to try and get into it with my friend cause she likes them but it didn't work for me. Talk about an act? The whole band looks a little too feminine and silly for my taste and Aimees vocals just don't cut it. Tairrie B has something to say far beyond so georgous...she talks about how women feel about thier bodies and all th shit we go through inside. She also talks about the idustry and the bullshit she has gone through. SHe also has a beautiful song dedicated to Lynn Strait called Rockstar which is so heartfelt and sincere. It is better than anything on the tribute record(except I love the System song too). I love the album title and she has explained what it means on her message board whenever some asks so maybe you should ask her yourself. I think it is far more original and interesting than um....let's see "Shakedown".Especially with what's happening in the world right now. I don'tdislike AImee personally or anything I just don't really care much. Who needs another Gwen when we can have another Patti Smith.I just wrote this massive rant because I got into a massive arguement with my friend and just like she has her opinions I have mine. My Ruin rock like god and whoever you are Omar...you shouldn't call yourself a fan one minute and make an ass of yourself the next. Lets see The Start play a show with My Ruin ....YEAH RIGHT!
Black eyed Blond <BEB178@hotmail.com>
Los Angeles, -
I have met Tarrie. She is a sweet gal. Which goes to back up KT. Why be mad and all that hogwash? I’d like to hear something new from My Ruin. They rock yes, but that show just didn’t. I own a few of My Ruins works and some live stuff. So sorry Satan for bursting your bubble. And by the way, what is wrong with liking Ratt? Didn’t you hear what was playing right when My Ruin took the stage? Geesh. And yes I do agree with you about how they could do better without people like me at their shows. They should have more angst filled brats that will spend an arm and a leg to buy poor lip service rip offs made by yours truly Miss B. I don’t mean to be mean about all that, but it is true. I’m a fan. But I’m not the kind to kiss ass and kill over when I make eye contact with the lead singer. I’m not the type of fan to do everything my rock star tells me to do. I have a mind of my own. I have freewill. *Turns up shakedown!, dusts off his Motley Crue t-shirt, and applies Aqua net pink*
Omar A. Morales *superboy* <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -
MyRuin is a very "aggressive" band, yes! But there are people who identify with their type of art....she vents her frustration in her music like any other musician does (and if you ever have met Tarrie, you should know she is not “mean”, she is a total doll).Don't get me wrong, I’m not trying to bash your opinion but sometimes we should be a little more careful on how we state things....everyone has a right to an opinion, but some of us do it in a nasty way!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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Aimee, you have a clone at Sarah Lawrence college. i was drivin past it the other day and saw her. everything was the same from the hair to the shoes. ...anywayz, i think it would be cool if theSTART and my ruin played together, but what is the percentage of it actually happening. I don't think the odds of it are in our favor. I think once Jessicka gets her new band, Scarling , up and running all three should hit the road. THAT would be cool.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -
All I want to say on the matter is that that's a bit harsh to say who cares what your opinion is.. if you can express your opinion why can't they express there's? Is it because it is different to yours? Doesn't it say speak freely up there??
lauRa
oz -
I think My Ruin and theSTART should do a tour together-- I would cream my pants. Who cares what your opinion is- I am always in support of strong female musicians. Rock on.
Rya <heroelux@aol.com>
Anaheim, Ca -
hey, the cover of "tainted love" they did was funny.only now i hear manson's joined in on that one too. joy. doesn't he know the rule that there is only be one comedy rock cover of any classic eighties song allowed?
kenickie
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...learn what, exactly? i'm going to actually be devil's advocate here and challenge "satan" for a minute. what can i learn from sonebody who just prances around all the time yelling about how pissed off she always is? she's ALWAYS mad. at least, what with the website and the magazine interviews and shit, she seemingly wants us to think she's always mad. no? what is every song on all those albums basically about? what am i LEARNING? i'm sorry to butt in like that but Omar even stated that he thought it was fine that other folks dug myruin; he was just stating his own opinion AS his own opinion, not as all encompassing snotty fact. I'm the one that does that. here's my opinion: "A prayer under pressure of violent anguish"...now if you asked me, not having previously known of myruin, to come up with the must hilarious album title i could think of, that would probably be it. she gets to tour the country(ies) and play rock and roll music, which is something EVERYone wants to do, but few people get to; i dont see whats weighing her down so much. there. that's MY opinion, so feel free to lampoon me for it, "satan", because i believe i have properly braced myself for your rebuttal
kt
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omar man you must have been @ the house of blues..myruin not metal?...whatever ...myruin can live with out people like you @ there shows..maybe ratt will kick back on tour so you can go back to your roots...myruin gets two horns up for the show on the 15th.........sorry but go buy a cd and learn
satan
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I know what metal is and they ain't metal. They fit under nu-metal. I grew up with real metal. I know whats up. Yes they did rock. And yes it was a good show. But they just didn't do it for me. Sure they have gotten better, but rock didn't come to mind. Good stage show. But it was all so acted out. Nothing felt real. The show lacked emotion for me. Is that a better way of saying the show sucked for ME? I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the show. I'm jelouse. I get very jelouse when I find someone enjoying something that I can't.
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -
Sorry to contradict, Omar, but My Ruin played an awesome set and were AMAZING last night.... that "poo" was METAL, baby. :) sorry... had to defend one of my most favorite bands.. :) lol xoxoxo
AMANDA <cherryscarling@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -
Jen I too was depressed today so I went for a drive....but even better to get rid of it is to drive to the most beautiful place you have bin and just think or look up at the sky.
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
Jen...um...try beer...and yes it is annoying. That's why I started it! KT, yes, I remember Saira Shah now, I saw her newest documnentary on Channel 4 a few days ago. She does indeed have balls the size of watermelons.Hooray for decent brits...
Metal Malcolm
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not posted for a while, i've been in a bit of a state! but i'm better now, anyone have a cure for depression that doesn't involve pills? malcolm - you started it...
you
muffin!
its
really
annonying isn't it!!!!!
jen jen
manx, uk -
I just got back from the My Ruin show at the Whisky. All I have to say is "blah." I'm just glad the Start's show rocked so much that it hung over me like a beautiful umbrealla and kept me dry from the poo that feel from My Ruin's speakers. The show could of rocked, but it didn't.
Omar A,. Morales *superboy* <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -
wow....what a great show!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
I just heard that theSTART unveiled a new song at the concert Tuesday night! When do the rest of us non-californians get to hear it?! The anticipation is just too much to take!! In other news, I just recieved this information from the ACLU: "Earlier this week, President Bush issued an executive order that would allow special military tribunals to try non-citizens charged with terrorism. This action followed another Administration-issued regulation that gives the government the power to listen in on any conversation between a suspect and his attorney." It's nice to know that we are fighting the war against terrorism in order to protect the freedom that us americans so dearly love.
Jennifer
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Saira Shah is an independant British journalist, who, at the beginning of this year, before all this 9/11 shit hit the fan, decided one day that she was going to get a crew together and go to afganistan to find the area her father was from. along the way she and her producer and camermen were arrested like four times or something; she went all over kabul, obtaining from different oppostion groups amazing camera footage exposing the taliban's atrocities to the west for more or less the first time. she went north and hooked up with Northern Alliance forces as well. her documentary, "Beneath the veil", aired on CNN one fucking week before 9/11 and about three times a day afterward for two or three weeks. since, she's gone back---and returned with a whole new piece. like i said, she defines investigative journalism. she has balls, in the utmost respect of the proverbial term.
kt
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Saira Shah is an independant British journalist, who, at the beginning of this year, before all this 9/11 shit hit the fan, decided one day that she was going to get a crew together and go to afganistan to find the area her father was from. along the way she and her producer and camermen were arrested like four times or something; she went all over kabul, obtaining from different oppostion groups amazing camera footage exposing the taliban's atrocities to the west for more or less the first time. she went north and hooked up with Northern Alliance forces as well. her documentary, "Beneath the veil", aired on CNN one fucking week before 9/11 and about three times a day afterward for two or three weeks. since, she's gone back---and returned with a whole new piece. like i said, she defines investigative journalism. she has balls, in the utmost respect of the proverbial term.
kt
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Good evening and welcome to NBC Nightly News, I’m Tom Brokaw. Today in Washington, surprise news from the Pentagon that US Special Forces will soon be scaled back, as the next phase of Operation Enduring Freedom continues; this next phase has apparently been active for some time, but, according to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, the moment has come to disclose to the public the details of this particular undertaking. Apparently, the United States Military has now commissioned several major American conglomerates to aid the in the Psy-Ops efforts, for which Washinton has thus far recieved criticism for failing to ‘win over’ the Afghan population; “They can run from our bombs,” said Secretary Rumsfeld, “but no one can run from our greatest weapon: American consumerism!” McDonald’s, the popular American food chain, has already mobilized several of its newly established TBDU’s, or Tactical Burger Delivery Units, which are currently laying siege to the southeastern Afghan city of Ghazni. Starbucks Strategic Command has also made substantial progress, having garrisoned entire city blocks in provinces along the Pakistani border and deployed squadrons of armored coffee vendors in the mountains of central Afganistan. A crack team of Phillip-Morris demographics experts has assembled, drafting a campaign strategy aimed at getting the Afghani youth to start smoking; Congress has alotted the tobacco giants a reputedly generous amount of money for the effort. Look for the return of Joe Camel soon. Also, music artists N*Sync and Britney Spears will now begin touring the country, relentlessly pummeling the Afghani citizens with candy-pop stylings specially written by the US Army with the intention of slowly breaking down the fundamentalist Islamic resolve. Mtv has scrambled its resources, which include truckloads of platinum and gold tinged gangsta rappers, whose strategy, according to Mtv’s Kurt Loder, will be to ‘bling-bling’ the remaining Taliban soldiers to death. What exactly that process involves, Mtv officials will not openly comment. Next on NBC Nightly News, an exclusive interview with the producers of Survivor, who, in their suprise press conference earlier this afternoon, affirmed the show’s next season will be set in the region near Jalalabad, Afghanistan. Stay tuned…
kt
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KT! Would you please inform us poor brits without satellite TV what Saira Shah is? As I have no idea....
Metal Malcolm
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wow....what a great show!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
for those of you who possess this wonderful CNN doohickie, the absolutely amazing Saira Shah has a new special that airs sunday. i've mentioned her before...she's got BALLS. watch and you'll see what i mean. she needs RECOGNITION
kt
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malcolm!
although i can't offer accomodation, unless i move out by the time you make your trip, i will offer to be your toronto tour guide. hahaha. so lemme know when you plan on coming over here.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@hotmail.com>
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malc - i think it's up by the pit and pendulum, pitcher and piano sort of area. and the ark, i know. it was the buttery, it will always be the buttery. is it just band soc monday, or can anybody go?
kenickie
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The Troub show ROCKED!! I was really happy to see the start family,(you know who you are)show up. That Nirvana cover took me by suprise because I thought it was going to be a HWP song. Omar, cool to hear the good news about the show at 7 and the START. e-mail me when you plan on playing, I still owe you a banner. Other female groups have been stealing the tie thing too but we need to show them that we had it first! Keep on wearing it guys. One more thing, if you want a copy of the underground zine I work with, e-mail me because there's an interview with Aimee in it. ~keep dancing
~Jenn <savory921@hotmail.com>
Palmdale , CA US -
Hyp! KT!
Erika!
Kenickie!
Okay, first person to manage ten names wins. In other news...don't worry KT, i'll mail you something. Kenickie, we're playiong about 20 mins on monday at the Notts Uni Union Bar, the Ark (What an atrocious name) and in about two weeks we'll be playing the Old Vic. Do you have any idea where that is? Coz I don't.
Another thing, we've got some more songs uploaded to the site. Go see.
And one more. Summer 2002 i'm planning to travel around Canada and the US for a couple of weeks. So far my only certain stops are Toronto (recommended, and easiest way to get to..) Michigan (Family) and NY (Good friend at Syracuse). If anyone is able to offer me accomodation, or at least be a tour guide for me, I wo7uld be more than grateful. And one more thing. If theSTART haven't toured the UK by then, you domn well better be playing a gig when i'm over there!!!!!
Later - Malcolm
Metal Malcolm
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fiona, i envy you, as maybe you do i....theSTART & garbage should tour...two beautiful and amazing front women...ahhh what bliss!
-erika
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Good day to you all... did any London/UK peeps go to the Garbage show last night? It was truly a wonderful evening and i think it would be amazing for theStart to tour with them. Anyhoo i am super hungover so am going to prepare myself some greasy food... uuugh. tata for now.
Fiona
London, UK -
amanda- your also a babe! thanks--xoxo---e-mail me!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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The Start show was awesome and I loved every minute.Is everyone going to My Ruin on Thursday at The Whisky?I think that the best would be if they played a show together. Was MIss B at the show last night did anyone see her?I heard thatmaybe Aimee would be at the Ruin show so maybe I can get a photo of them together????I love The Start and My Ruin because they are the two most original bands on this scene today!See you all on Thursday.
beauty fiend
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i noticed since i changed my email i'm not getting as much stuff. this is absolutely horrifying to me, my friends, on so many base levels it's mind-numbing...i feel almost...drained in a way. somebody EMAIL me! before i resort to porno-subscriptions just to see that dandy little number in my email account thingy increase a few digits...that brings me indeterminable amounts of joy, you know. eh? eh!
kt <limpandstutter@hotmail.com>
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...so is the band going out on family values or not? not that it really even matters...family values never comes to austin...it always goes to fuckin san antonio. san antonio san antonio san antonio! marsha marsha fuckin MARSHA! hey Malcolm and the UK kids--- whats with this andrew wk's bio? whats with all this shit about the post-WWII US economy? whats that got to do with their awful music? what the FUCK?
kt
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aww man. i'm jealous.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
beautiful show last nite :) everyone danced and sang, how precious was that?? i hope there's many more troubadour shows to come. we LOVE them! :)
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, -
last night show in hollywood was fuckin great echo can really work a crowd thank you for a great time
rayann erickson <erickson666@aol.com>
mira loma, ca usa -
The show rocked! Thank you to that girl that lent me her pen...You have my love and my greatest of thanks, you don't know how much that pen helped me out. I went looking for you to give it back and tell you some good news, but you were no where to be found. And Mellisa...*how ever you spell your name* E-mail me for freaks sake! You'll just die when you hear what I got! FashionVictum@hotmail.com My aim s/n thingy is by my name, use it if you got it. Rock'n'roll kiddies! Everyone looked beautiful as always.
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -
you know that i hate you all, right?
kenickie
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RADIO...IS... AMAZING. :) as long as the rest of the set last night! Scott, Jaimie, Aimee, and Jeff, you guys were sensational as always! And I loved being able to see all the cool kids at the show! :) lol Erika.. you're a doll! xoxoxoxo
AMANDA <cherryscarling@aol.com>
Burbank, ca -
that was a great show yesterday!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
theSTART fucking rocked...what a awe show that was! they did an excellent cover of nirvana's "breed" can't wait to see them some more- and thanks to them all....you are all very sweet and kind people- and aimee right, they'll never leave la!!!! night fellow heretics____I HAD SO MUCH FUN HANGING OUT WITH YOU ALL- YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE...LOVE YOU GUYS!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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when are you guys coming to visit us tea drinkers in the uk?
ellie <elleanormccormack@hotmail.com>
manchester, uk -
Hi all! I wanted to celebrate my 18th by buying myself a theStart t-shirt - is there anywhere apart from shows that they are available???? Liesey***
Liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
Townsville, QLD Australia -
Yay welcome back! The cover of Nirvana's "Breed" was terriFic!!! Hope you guys play some more for your old skool fans before you head out again!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
Anaheim, Ca -
malcolm!
kenickie! this must look funny to those reading the new messages. haha. oh well
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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man you guys in california are so damn lucky. ...on the other hand i'm getting free sevendust tix (sometimes i cant not love my job). As for the other NYers, my heart goes out to anyone who lost loved ones in the crash in queens. i used to go to college in queens, i can actually say im lucky to have dropped out.
natalie
ny -
hyp!malc! - where?
laura! - where are you?
kenickie
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To all of you going to the show tonight I hope you have a great time! I wish I could go, but I just couldn't find anyone willing to give me a ride all the way from Arizona. I swear, some people need to get their priorities straight! But anyways, all you lucky people in LA have a great time, and good luck to the band. I know you guys will put on a hell of a show!
Jennifer
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Hyp! Erika!
Kenickie!
How sad must this look to people who just start readin at the top? As for the URL. I apologise for being completely useless. Oh, and anyone in Nottingham, I may have a gig on monday Can anyone make it?
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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kenickie!
malcolm!
haha. i think we're starting something here.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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can't wait till morrow! see you all! malcolm-where have ya been?(grr!) and place the right damn link i tell ya!
-erika
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good luck to the start at tomorrows show...i know everyone thats gonna go will have a real good time...ill have to miss this one though, my parents decided not to let me out of the house for a while. hopefully there will be more start shows in LA...ill for sure catch the next one!
Ani <rgagnstm@hotmail.com>
L.A, Ca -
you need the http://, but i can get there... : )
kenickie
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My bad. Try now.
Metal Malcolm
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hyp!malcolm! - i can't see a link in your name...
jen! oh, well, i threw a drumstick at the bassist, but it missed.
kt! happy birthday man! go get really, really drunk.
kenickie
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Hyp! Kenickie!
Jen!
Everyone else!
For some reason I had this idea that KT was so much older than 18...can't think why....congrats anyway my man. Enjoy.
Oh, and I have a favour to ask of all the people on here. My band has finally got a track on the net. It's a really bad live recording, the guitars are too low, we'd only had our drummer for a week, and I had the flu and no monitors, but it came out okay. You need Real jukebox or Player to hear it because the recording is fucked, but any opinions would be great. Just click on my name thing and search around
Metal Malcolm
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THE START on TUESDAY and MY RUIN on THURSDAY!!!What a great week!
beauty fiend
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KT - well done! congrats! kenickie - i hope you beat them with their own shoes!
going to see tricky in 2 days, so he's good is he? thats ok then...and i'm also in 2 minds to buy kittie tickets...help me make a decision please!! lv Jenwah xxxxxx
jen jen
manx, uk -
Hi!...only a couple of more days until the concert in LA! alright!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
kenickie!!
kt: congrats!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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congrads KT!!!!!
-erika
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!!!
kt
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holy shit!!! i'm 18 now!!!
kt
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hyp!! jen - my bassist and guitarist were messing about and playing the riff to that song today, followed by lots of bellowing "let's party hard!" well, you know, at least he provides us with entertainment while we wait for our singe to turn up. ; )
kenickie
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I saw Tricky in August....lord, that was a show if I've ever seen one. So high, yet so amazing. He's really short, too. Very sincere, grateful person.
Lex
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hmmm. hello to everyone i know on here. hope you're all well. take care.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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and of course everyone else, you all know who you are!
-erika
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hello people---can't wait to see theSTART this tuesday...malcolm, i'll send pics for sure- bye darlings!
-erika
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malcolm, oh i see, i kinda know who tricky is now, she showed me a video, it had a documentary and a live show on it so i know now...thanx! kenickie - yes i did see mr WK on totp, god it was shit! still laffing now!
jen jen
manx, uk -
it's for a website called sequential tart. ; ) i've submitted for use as a front page piece.
kenickie
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Oh, Kenickie, very nice artwork. Just one question. Sequential? Any reason behind that? Seems a bizarre choice for a guitar....
Metal Malcolm
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KT, anyone who plays guitar should worship at the feet of SRV. It's just so difficult to get his stuff over here. The good die young and all that. And as for Andrew WK, well. I can't stop laughing. Oh dear.
Metal Malcolm
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I am from aus.. so is amy :)
lauRa <circles@ispdr.net.au>
syd, oz -
lovelovelove theSTART! there is absolutely nothing more inspirational, more gorgeous than intellectual, passionate music that keeps me forever dancing...
aurora <organik_machine@graffiti.net>
boulder, CO USA -
who else here is down with SRV? somebody else here's GOT to be down with Stevie, right?
kt
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did anyone see andrew WanK on totp? oh my god. oh my god. i cannot believe that man has a record deal. btw, the link in my name is to a recent piece of comic book artwork i did.
kenickie
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Anyone else here from Australia? How did you hear about theStart?? Liesey***
Liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
Townsville, QLD Australia -
Hi! I'm from Australia and I heard about thestart as 'the band that aimee from HWP is in now'. Now I realise that they are much more than that and I have absolutely fallen for their music. I wish them all the best and hope that their cd does well enough that they come and tour down here! On another note, Hi all!! Liesey***
Liesey <purrsnickety33@hotmail.com>
Townsville, QLD Australia -
rasp...rasp...where have i heard of them before?
kt
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Hey all. I absolutely love theSTART. I saw them for the first time opening for Weezer, and most recently at CBGB here in NY. Amazing band!
Brian <WEEEEEZERRRRR@aol.com>
Astoria, NY USA -
Jamie! the RASP website is www.rasponline.com. i was actually just listening to the demo i got at the cbgb's show yesterday. they definatly are cool.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -
You guys rule, I saw you at the Val Air ball room and you guys rock. I luv your guys kinda music and I bet you guys go places.
Kyle Schlapkohl <kyle_pile@hotmail.com>
Manson, IA United States -
hey kids, i'm trying to find out if they have a web site but if you get a chance look up the band RASP they are amazing, joy division, bauhaus like, but not.
jamie
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Did anyone buy dope yesterday? The cd that is. See most of you at the Troubadour next week.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
Anaheim, CA 92804 -
i saw the show sunday id like to apologize to aimee cuz when i was talking to her with my friend i shushed the both of them while incubus was playing just as phase i really love the second break where it explodes well yeah im sorry and your the nicest person to talk to ma'am ;) (i have no idea if she'll actually read this but hey never hurts to try)
Paul <azwethinkweiz13@aol.com>
calumet city, il usa -
Jen - Nice! As for Manc, I was gonna be interviewing them, but it never happened, so i'm trying to sort one for the Notts date. I'm gonna try and go soon, but I don't know when. Maybe our rock soc will do a trip to Jilly's or something....did you see the Karni scum collecting a few weeks ago? Hilarious i'm sure. And as for tricky...the man is a god. I didn't know he was touring. He's done stuff with Massive Attack, and he's kinda like them on a paranoia trip. Very nice. Have fun.
Metal Malcolm
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malcolm, they were about 10 - 12! and yes i know, i'm good at warping people! especially small people! heehee! when you up in manchester mate anyway? you going to see therapy? aren't you? well i'm going to see tricky in a couple of weeks and still have no idea who he is! but Dawn wants to go so i'll go with her!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
Kenickie - I may know her, although I only started working therre this year....name doesn't ring a Bell. She may know me, may not. Who knows? And yes, it should get released here, but not only so fans don't have to pay stupid prices, but think! Bonus tracks! Will we finally get a studio version of Flying machine or Be Mine? Or even Breed? Woo Hoo! Jen, how old were these trick or treaters? You gave porn to small children didn't you? Corrupting the youth of the nation...nice work!
Metal Malcolm
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I have been a fan of Human Waste Project since god... 1998... and when I heard the Start the first time I KNEW THAT VOICE!! And I was so excited to hear it. Anyway, I just wanted to say... I wish to see them play somewhere close to Carbondale or IN Carbondale would be even better. :)
Suzanne <suzannedragonfly@aol.com>
Carbondale , IL USA -
i just seen THE START with incubus friday nov. 2, i was a small fan of the start from a comp cd my cousin made me a few of their songs were on the cd and i loved the songs so when the opurtunity came up to see incubus a good band and THE START came up i jumped on it. when i seen them live i loved tehm they have such energy and theri music is great i cant wait fro their next detroit show ill be right back there in the front row with my glow in the dark glasses, it was great after the their set i had a couple chances to talk to mebers of the band and they are such nice people, i got autographs, it was great. CHECK OUT THE SITE OF "THE JERK" WWW.ANGELFIRE.COM/PUNK3/thejerk
THE JERK <db_yo@hotmail.com>
hazelpark-detroit, mi america -
hey guys! malcolm, not as good as our trick or treaters that we got when i was at my girlfriends! they were weird! we didn't have owt to offer them , but we gave them 70p, a cig, some porn and a lolly! thats all we could find! so that was good! i don't think we got anyone else! happy bonfire night dudes!!!! xxxxxxxxxx
jen jen
manx, uk -
I seen u guys open for Incubus Sunday 11-4-01 and u kicked ass! I was the on that said i am ur lover to Amiee.
Brian Powell <drummerboy_420@hotmail.com>
Michigan City, IN U.S.A. -
hello heretics! theSTART has just graced chicago with their presence this weekend...and i saw two amazing shows! once again, theSTART are the nicest people youd ever wanna meet. if anyone else was at either chicago show, e mail me...id love to meet fellow heretics in chicago. also, i dunno if ppl were still curious about this, but i asked aimee the part in glimmer man that i assumed was "am i a scary girl" is actually, "am i hysterical"...so there ya go fur those who were actually curious about it. love stef.
steFanie <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -
malcolm - do you know rebecca...um, crap, forgotten her surname...? tall girl, writes for the magazine too, i think, in the music section. and yeah, it is a good magazine. i wish the album would get released over here soon. it's too good to be kept back and the british fans deserve to hear it.
kenickie
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No problem Kenickie, I am available to be picked on. There are certainly tracks which would go down a storm, "Nemesis" for one, but they're notoriously bad for playing new stuff by unestablished bands. It's a job for the record label really. Although when we get an official release date I can review it for Notts Uni magazine (Best Uni mag in the country according to the guardian) And yes, Andrew WK is really quite disgustingly bad. How did he get the guy from obituary? How?
Metal malcolm
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where can i get the lyrics for 'her song'? its my favvvvvvvvvvorite!
-ramona- <dashboard134@hotmail.com>
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Hey long time no speak...I just wanna thank theSTART for one of the best weekends i've ever had. I got to see them 3 nights in a row, each more fun then the day before. I miss you guys already!
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -
isn't it just shit? and to think he's some ambassador of rock...fuckers. i don't understand.
kenickie
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oh god...i mean...i just went to their website and watched their music video...and i'm utterly speechless; save to say that i now retract my prior statements concerning Otep has being the most ridiculous act of late. i just...oh my god...
kt
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whah?! what in the shit!?
kt
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kt - be glad you haven't. he used to be a thrash metal drummer or something, then got to singing. think bad eighties synth metal, with crap guitars, a horribly cheesy riff and awful lyrics ("we do what we like and we like what we do.").
kenickie
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ok who the hell IS this andrew wk person and why havent i heard him yet?
kt
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ah crap, one more thing...malcolm, don't you think "shakedown" or "gorgeous" would go down a storm at rock city? i wonder if it's possible to get a sampler cd to them with those tracks on it...
sorry i'm picking on you, but you're the only other rock citier here. ;)
kenickie
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what's up everyone...having posted here in a while..hope everyone had a good halloween...i did...being aimee echo is fun..hehe..so who's going to the family values show @ the anaheim pond? i want to meet you ppl...and who's already been to the family values? how was deadsy's set? later..
Ellen <fiendfeme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca USA -
wow, so the old kids are still hanging out here huh? malcolm - that andrew wk song makes me embarrassed to say that i like rock music. why are people saying he's the future of rock music?
kenickie
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i haven't posted in like a million years :D i am so PISSED that theSTART isn't coming here at all.. gah
Tara
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i havent posted in ages. just nothing to say i suppose. but theSTART/incubus tour is finally hitting chicago on saturday n sunday. im all excited now. i was just wondering, fur those of u who have seen the tour so far, is it just theSTART n incubus or is another band opening as well? and haloween used to be so rock n roll...now that im in the city im scared to get held up if i dared to mention halloween the scary religion freaks in the building next to mine.
SteFanie RaYna <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, -
I was stupid enough to open the door when someone knocked, and got accosted by Trick or treaters. Put it this way, If you don't please them in this area, you get a pretty wrecked house. We've been looking out the window every time someone knocks, and if it's trick or treaters, we pretend we're not in. My only question, is this being nasty? It's just if we don't have anything to give (And none of us have cash), I feel wary when a group of 5 14 year olds with a pair of horns they stole come round asking for cash.....
Metal Malcolm
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i live in a town where half the folks believe that halloween is an evil, sacreligious event. what fun, huh?
kt
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*tiny vincent price fly voice* heeeeeelllp meeeee! heeeeeeeeelllllllp meeeeeeeeeeeeee!
kt <limpandstutter@hotmail.com>
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I completely understand metal malcolm! (damn tequila)
Jennifer
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Happy halloween. I got drunk last night, and I've been visited by the wrath of hell. Or at least a damn bad hangover.
Metal Malcolm
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hey kids!
did anyone else go out of their way to get to the mall today? haha. i did.
we had "trick r treat" last thursday cause i township does it then so it's before the clocks change... i know, it's dumb but whatever. anyway, i was Ace Frehely and my friend was Gene Simmons and we ran around playing KISS tunes REALLY loud on my boom box! haha. it was really fun!!
ok that's its! later! hope you guys had all had a fun halloween!
~Tap!
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
mechanicsburg, pa usa -
happy halloween!
-erika
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happy halloween everyone!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE! and HAPPY ALL SAINTS DAY for the 1st Nov.
jen jen
manx, uk -
You guys were great at the Pageant in St. Louis. ***
Kate
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HA HA HA HA Otep...Oh god I wanna say some mean things, but nahh... I'm gonna be the Cute Little Dead Girl known as Lenore for Halloween... heee heee heee...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -
thestart troubador nov 13 anyone know what time?
911
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I saw the start once at the Hara Arena in Dayton, OH, and the thursday before at Promowest Pavillion in Columbus, OH, and may i say that they are by far one of the greatest bands to grace us with their presence. I met Aimee at family values tour the night after the promowest show and she was the sweetest person that ive ever met. Then the next nite was the dayton show and i talked to her yet again as she passed out cookies (which by the way was the funniest thing ever). For those of you who do not have their cd i strongly suggest you go out and buy it coz ive had it for a lil less than a week and i listen to it every single day. ITS THAT GOOD! So to TheStart, I LOVE YOU GUYS! You keep it real! Keep on making the same great music for time to come! PeaCE!
Arika <skarylady22@aol.com>
Gahanna, oh USA -
I'm going to be Aimee Echo for Halloween. How about you?
ellen <fiendfeme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -
bahaha otep... that girl sounds like she's been smoking since she was about two years old. i am currently trying to figure out how to carve a theSTART symbol into my pumpkin. this is complicated.
stefanie
philly, -
Wow, so many people seeing and meeting theSTART..... You are all so lucky!!!! I am jelous!
Amy
Land Of Oz, -
My friends, recently i stumbled upon the website of this band...their called "Otep". it took several repeat visits to this website to convince me that they arent a joke. NEVER seen anything more ridiculous in my entire life...well, my friends, i take that back; i did once see a transvestite dressed like a nun playing an accordian on 6th street, but this definitely comes in a close second. i mean...what are they? spooky voodoo-shaman? Pharao swahili mystics? what's with all these religious images and references that otherwise have nothing to do with eachother being mish-mashed together into a sort of sales-pitch? (seriously! read their bio; you'll feel like your being pitched some sort of awful b movie plot) i, being knee-deep in the usual high humor in which i often find myself, felt compelled to email them and ask them just those questions. to my suprise, i got a response that said "We're sorry you don't understand."...excuse me? are you pitying me for not buying the schtick? whoa there...thats getting a little pretentious, isnt it? but i didn't respond with that; instead i asked them if it were ever, within any possible stretch of the imagination, possible to write a song about minutemaid orange soda. because, my friends, its just no fun to limit yourself. apparently though, they're just fine with it. something tells me that simply expressing the intricacies and nuances of minutemaid orange soda is so far beyond their artistic scope of things, that it would be utterly impossible for them to even begin. i have yet to recieve a response to that email. in the mean time, i have begun to assemble the necessary vowels to write me own lyrical tribute to minutemaid orange soda; when i am through, my friends, i shall send it their way and show those narrow minds that just such a thing can be done, and further avenues should be explored all the same...
kt <limpandstutter@hotmail.com>
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I met theSTART last night at the BackstreetBlues show on Long Island!May I just say that they are probably the nicest band I have ever meet!It was like a really small club and they were just sitting around with everyone and watching the opening bands like they were part of the crowd!First we saw Jamie sitting all the way in the back and I was way too nervous to go up and just talk to him being the huge SNOT fan that I am!Then we just sat back and watched the rest of one of the opening bands and we saw a girl walk right past us and at first I didn't notice her and then my friend said that that was aimee.So we went over and asked her if she could sign some stuff for us!Aimee is so cool!She looked real happy when I handed her a Human wASTE pROJECT cd to sign she wrote "HWP 4ever" on the sleeve!Then Jamie came over and I almost shit myself!I got my snot cd signed he wrote"Thanks!U guys rule"on my booklet.He was phat as well!Then The Rest of the band Jeff and Scott came over and they were cool as well!They played Nemesis,Glimmer Man,Melt,Hang On Me,Gorgeous,Shakedown!Great show!
Joey
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I saw your kick ass band at hara arena in dayton ohio. You guys rocked with incubus. Oh yeah, thanks for passing out them cookies, they were good.ha
rog <rogo76@msn.com>
IN usa -
malcolm, thanks for the offer, but i'm a lesbian i don't do housework so there! got a new job anyway!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
Late last nite/early this morning I was flippin' through channels since I had nothing better to do with my life and I needed to fall asleep. So I put it on MTV and there was a commercial for MTV and they showed 2 seconds of "Gorgeous"... I was like,"ERRR" and pulled my weirdo face... Thought I like to share that here, but I guess I'll shut up then...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -
Grrr. Everyone has tickets but me..... As for Andrew WK, I finally Heard "Party Hard" at rock city last night. What a pile of crap. It's Blink 182 taken to the logical extreme...what I want to know is, are you guys in the US getting all this hype too? or is it just us?
Metal Malcolm
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happy day---i just bought my ticket--oh yeah happy day! hope to see you all there!!!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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Is it just me, or does anyone else find Andrew WK very annoying. The music sounds like Steps decided to get themselves a 'metal' sound... yikes.
Fiona
London, UK -
Hi... This is Mike the guitarist/keyboardist from Rasp, i dont know if you remember me, but I caught up with you guys after the show and we went to starbucks to grab a coffee. anyway I gave Jamie my band's so-called demo. I hope you enjoyed it and hope we can work something out in the future, maybe open up some shows for you. It would be an honor. You guys had a great set at CBGB's and that was the best nite of my life, being able to converse with you guys on a one on one basis was the most awesome feeling. thank you!!!! Jamie told me to keep in touch so thats what I'm doing, if it could be mutual, it would be great, so if possible write back. Thank You again!!!!!!!!!!! A True Fan, Mike
Mike <lordcyprian6@aol.com>
Harrison, nj America -
I haven't written on here forever. Hope to see a lot of you at the show on the 13th, anyone get tickets for the Weezer show next month?
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
Anaheim, Ca 92804-666 -
didn't mean to double submit or whatever but like I bought my ticket for theSTART yesterday and so I'm going to see them and hopefully hang out with them and then I'm going to give Jamie Miller props for being a guitarist that's good. bye......GOD BLESS! GOD BLESS!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
thanks....I'm so drunk right now.....I don't even know what I'm typing.andyway so yo u guys are going to see theSTART in Los Angeles right?! Well cool see you there....bye....GDO BLESS!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
thanks....I'm so drunk right now.....I don't even know what I'm typing.andyway so yo u guys are going to see theSTART in Los Angeles right?! Well cool see you there....bye....GDO BLESS!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
....my post got cut off. Okay as I was saying...yea not a bright idea to cruise Sunset cause you'll get ticketed for it. It's against the law and the cops are all over that. *humph* Anyways I used to hang in Hollywood all the time so yea, I pretty much know what there is to do there. Hmm...hope ya have fun.
<3
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West Hollywood...lets see. Like gay boys? Cruise Santa Monica Blv. Want some neato Hollywood souvineers and some tatoos and piercings? Cruise Hollywood Blv. Want to go to some cool stores that you wont find anywhere else...great shopping! Cruise Melrose Blv.Want to go to all the famous Hollywood clubs such as The Roxy, The Whiskey, The Viper Room, or The Key Club? Cruise Sunset (except no don't cause it's against the law to
<3
USA -
alright anyone know what to do in West Hollywood.....I'm from a small town and my friends and I are driving 3.5 hours to see theSTART so we are going to get to Los Angeles pretty early we just need something to do!.....please help!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, Ca USA -
malcolm: everyone ran away!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Well Jen, you could come over here and clean our house for us, but I don't think we could manage more than £5. Ever. It's been remarkably quiet here....where'd everyone go? Where's KT? It feels too...normal without him round...
Metal Malcolm
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oh man! i'm jealous of all you kids!! i wish i could get to a show! ugh! they were in D.C. last night but i didn't find out till Wednesday night so i didn't have to time to get a ride or anything! ::sigh:: just my luck... that's ok they were opening for Puddle of Mudd and i'm not sure if i'd be able to handle that for too long. LOL.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA usa -
malcolm...damit didn't get fired! so i quit instead!!!!!!!! anyone got a job i can have???
jen jen
manchester, uk -
dayna, i remember you haha... i got my pictures back and they're great... i should upload them. the best one is of eno and jamie... aw.
stefanie
philly, -
Tap: That's cool... I was at theSTART show at philly. Hung with Amiee for a while, she was really kickass like i knew she would be. Some other girl was there, I am guessing that was stefanie... I wish I hadn't been soo sick otherwise I would've been more 'chatty'.
dayna <servetheshamed@msn.com>
Havertown, Pa USA -
well there is alot of new people here, thats good! I am so happy that theStart is doing so well EVERYWHERE! YAY!! another show in LA 2 days b4 my b-day! last year it was 3 days after my b-day, wierd huh? hehehe... So for sure i will be there!! take care of each other, **Spiders&Stars**
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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Hey, I hope theSTART come over to the UK in January and support Incubus! That would be awesome, especially as the Nottingham show is on my birthday! :) Hope everyone's cool, haven't been on here in about 6months!
Graham Hopper <hopper@ramsey.uk.com>
Nottingham, UK -
dayna- you're from havertown? that's pretty cool. i have a dance competition there every year in some skating arena...
i wish i could drive... ::sigh:: i hate it! if they would've announced the 9:30 club show a few weeks earlier i would be there!!! ugh!! there's NO WAY we can get a ride by tomorrow night... just my luck! ugh. oh well...
ok, that's all good bye.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA USA -
Hi i'm new to this board as I just discovered The Start. The record is great and I am looking forward to the show at the Troubadour because it shall be my first(not last i'm sure). I heard about The Start and bought the record and loved it. I am a huge My Ruin fan and heard Tairrie B simply loves Aimee. That is so cool because maybe one day they will play together. Has anyone ever heard of My Ruin? I love Jack Off Jill too but they broke up a while ago. Jessicka has a new band called Scarling. I can't wait to see them live someday. My Ruin are playing a couple of days after The Start play on the 15th at The Whisky. If you haven't seen them you should. They are very different(not poppy but more heavy and metal) but they are so fucking cool. They were all girls and one boy on guitar but the bass player Meghan has recently been replaced by a boy and this is gonna be his first show so it will be like seeing them brand new for those who haven't. Anyway I love The Start and the song Nemesis is my favorite on the record. Aimee is so cute and so is Scott!!! See you at the show!!
Beauty Fiend
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Woo Hoo! i wonder what the turn out is gonna be like for the cb's show! i feel like a stalker, my friends and i are going to the ny, nj and boston shows :o). i can't wait. tre fun.
natalie
ny -
aaah just got back from theSTART in philly.. horrible turnout but a fantastic show.... thanks so much to EVERYBODY. they played glimmer man, nemesis, melt, hang on me, her song, breed, gorgeous, shakedown... sounded fantastic, I LOVE THIS BAND YES.
stefanie
philly, pa us -
having a hard time trying to find friends that can get off work to go see theSTART....stinky....everyone say "Boo" but oh well.....if I have to go alone......that won't happen but hey yeah I'm driving 3-4 hours to see you so I best be getting a picture with you guys.
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
I JUST WANTTD TO TELL EVERYONE THAT THE START PUT ON A KICKASS SHOW AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY (OHIO) THIS PAST WEEKEND(10/21)!!!!THEY PLAYED MANY OF THEIR GREAT SONGS LIKE"SHAKEDOWN", "GORGEOUS", "HER SONG" AND THE LIST GOES ON. I DEFINITELY MADE SURE I WAS IN THE FRONT ROW. THEY GIVE OFF SO MUCH ENERGY! THAT YOU JUST GOT TO DANCE THE WHOLE TIME! BY THE TIME INCUBUS CAME ON STAGE I WAS EXHAUSTED. HAHA!!!ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO TELL ALL OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THEM SOON THAT YOUR ARE IN FOR A TREAT BECAUSE THEY ARE PUMPED UP AND READY TO GIVE ALL OF YOU A GREAT SHOW!!!GOOD JOB TO THE START AND KEEP ON MAKING GREAT MUSIC FOR US DEDICATED FANS!!! THANKS!!!!DRUMMERGIRL
Drummergirl <DRMRGRL76@hotmail.com>
Sharon, PA USA -
I hope to see a lot of familiar faces at the "welcome-back" show!! I know I shall---we'll rise up and show theSTART that no one can replace their LA fans. They may expand but we can never be replaced!
-erika
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Whoops I knew what I was doing... *hides her face* Philly Show here I come!!!
dayna <servetheshamed@msn.com>
Havertown, PA USA -
Mmmyup Comments... how I hate thee
dayna <servetheshamed@msn.com>
Havertown, PA USA -
I didn't mean to say that the other fans were "inferior" if it came across that way.(Well, I guess that is kinda how I phrased it.) There are are some people who seem really nice over there. It just gets frustrating. Like you said, you have a wonderful community over here and I'm a fairly new fan so I don't really fit in. However I think the majority of the members on the other speak out would like to see me stoned to death. I love the band, their music, and everything they stand for so much! So it's just kind of hard.
Jennifer
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Jennifer.... I kinda see your point. I'm not suggesting that those on the new speakout are in any way inferior fans, but I think a lot of people on there are people who saw the guys at a show, liked them, and decided to get involved, without neccessarily understanding what the band, and the community are about. In contrast, this speakout is more like a community. Quite a few of us know each other off list, so we're more......similar? I dunno. More accepting perhaps. Whatever, tehre is a definte difference between the two. I try and check the new speakout whenever I can, but this will always be home. I'm so glad they didn't drop it....
Metal Malcolm
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I know this is mean and I know it shall come back to me but I'm prepared for reprecussions! Why is it that there are so very many intelligent people on this speak out but the new one seems to breed just the opposite? Can someone please answer this question for me because I am thoroughly confused! I made the mistake of posting a "story" over there about how MTV stifles individual thought and you'd think I was the antichrist!
Jennifer
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i know this is a little after the fact but i just have to say that you guys rocked at the weezer show in st.paul this fall. my friends and i immediately bought your cd and are hooked. its so cool to see females in rock . u dont see many of them. keep on rockin and hope to hear lots more from you and see you guys in many future tours. ~ amy
amy johnson <penguinchix86@aol.com>
mn usa -
I'll be there of course...I knew about this show for the past 2 weeks so like it's gonna rule and I think I'm gonna cry... LOL... It's soo fucking grreat to have you guys back at the Troubadour... By the way, Echo you're right hee hee... I'll see you first in line Omar hee hee..
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -
I just found out today that you are plaing the Khyber tomorrow night. You don't know how psyched I am to hear that, cause I missed the Incubus show in Philly. The last time I saw Aimee, Jaime, and Scott was when HWP played with Sevendust and Coal Chamber at the 9:30 in D.C. That was almost 4 years ago... damn... I'll see ya all tomorrow.
Ralph <strikethru@chesco.com>
Lansdale, PA USA -
who is going to theSTART's show in Hollywood?........I am!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville , CA USA -
I just found out that theSTART is coming back. I've waited for this day to come. Now we all can dance together again.I have missed them as well as fellow fans.I can't wait. I'm so excited that I want to go to the trobador NOW. I'll see U all there. "I am a Heretic"
Omar <WoNdErBluff@aol.com>
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Jen! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRESPEC'!!!
Metal malcolm
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oooh, is it my fault we is all dissing freddie? well i'm sorry to say i still want the arrogant, stuck up his own ass, cap wearing wanker dead! and yes ALL the albums do kinda sound the same! i think i only ever got into one song and that was a cover! malcolm, i'm getting fired tonight!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -
and besides, cold's been one of those bands lately that people use to mix with other bands in some sort of metaphorical mish mash to try and compare with any new acts other folks might not have heard yet. when that happens, my friends, a line has been crossed, somewhere in the great, grand scheme of things.
kt
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i felt that one too. cold went through too much of an overhaul for me on that second cd...i like em and all, but i'm kinda wearing thin on the power-ballady thing, know what i mean? the whole suicidal thing is just...well...wont these guys ever CHEER UP?
kt
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Yes, and let's not forget that this is the first album that the now play NOTHING from. I won't diss people for liking Limp Bizkit, but Fred a talented musician? He doesn't even fucking play anything. Fred is talented at one thing, and that's business... There are so many good bands around...and puddle of Mudd just seem so....dull. Cold's first album was amazing, but 13 ways is such a let down for me...oh well...I guess it can't be helped.
Metal Malcolm
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My friend Lisa is way cool. She went on to check show listing!!! then she saw theStart is playing at the troubadour. She remember I totally like them... then she told me. I kept freaking out. I want to see you all there!!! Nobody will miss this Homecoming!!! We need to start making signs now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Emily
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How come it has LA, CA Troubadour listed for NOV 13th on the Tour Page?!?! WOO HOO!
Alex
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yeah amanda- i know what your saying, some bands just cause a reaction! sad to say but true!
-erika
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alright i concedee there---the first wasn't all that bad under Ross Robinson's production, but hell, that guy can do anything. lets just say that rollin' video did it for me; yeah Fred, we get it, your famous now, driving around in cars i could never in my life afford, wearin platinum wrist watches and whatever...yeah Fred your the pinnacle of musical artistry. gee, what a humble, down to earth guy.
kt
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Have Anyone Of you listened to the Puddle Of Mudd cd other than Control.There are great songs on the cd like Blurry,and out of my head.Fred also signed another band which sounds nothing like any of the aformentioned bands they are called Kenna.AND ALL THE LB ALBUMS DON'T SOUND THE SAME!
Joey
USA -
hahaha. kt you'd be too much for mtv to handle. you know what's hilarious about that video...did you notice how the keys land in a puddle of mud?
erika - it doesn't seem so much of talking shit. but i can see how it would be considered so. it's more of expression of opinions. and fred durst/limp bizkit is always bound to get a reaction out of everyone when mentioned.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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i guess we shouldn't talk shit, but it's hard not to- i also hate it when people come on the board of a band to talk shit- so i think we should stop. sorry joey-
-erika
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you forgot that they don't have an ounce of talent. had i wanted, and had i known it was going to get me a video on Mtv, i probably would have pulled the following OUT OF MY ASS: "I need to feel you/you need to feel me/i can control you/you cant control me..." i mean SERIOUSLY. i first saw them through their video, which was so ridiculous i thought it was a joke; did you all see the scripted prologue to it, like setting up some kind of a fucking STORYline when the lead singers girlfriend ditches him and he walks into the room with his band and his guitarist or whatever the fuck says "Dude...Seriously...Bro..." like JEE FUCKIN WHIZ, you know what i mean? is this rock and roll now? i dont mean to be whatever about it but if thats what gets you a record deal nowadays then why arent i on fuckin TV right now?
kt
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puddle of mud sound like a cross between creed, a bit of staind, and a bit of older cold. and kt has a point there. let's make a remix album. hahaha. it's all about the bling bling!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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limp bizkit is better that everyone! theyve written the same album 3 times! fred durst signs a band whose lyrics include "i like the way you smack my ass"! he's got an eye for talent alright!
kt
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I just saw you guys last night for the first time at the promo west pavillion. we met and talked for a while. i just wanted to say that i love your band, i bought the cd last night, which you all signed, and it has not left my cd player all day, i have done nothing but listen to it. it is great. thank you so much for taking the time to be with the fans.it makes me respect you now not only for your music but for your personality as well. i can defintly say, that i am a fan!!! -michelle
michelle <bootylicious13@HOTMAIL.COM>
columbus, oh USA -
I saw the start opening for incubus in Toronto, and all i could wonder was who's dick their lead singer was sucking to get on there. My sweet jesus this was the most horrible display of sound ive ever had rip my ears to shreds by. i dont think ive ever wanted to kill myself so badly at one moment ever. i was disgusted, appauled, and totally dissapointed. you may have seen me and my friends sitting beside pizza pizza on the ground totally saddened and wishing for incubus to start. i think i got my point across. one more thing, better music has come out of my ass that this cheap joke for a band. have a nice day! Dave (incubus4ever)
Dave <deftastic@hotmail.com>
Ottawa, On Canada -
Why the fuck is everyone making fun of Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit.Limp Bizkit is one of my favorite bands and pisses me off that you all laugh at the fact Wes left the group and say it is a good thing!Why does Everyone wan't to kill Fred for anyway!He is a great musician and he helps out alot of great bands like Staind,Cold,Sinnistar,and Puddle Of Mudd.He is a great person who actually cares about the fans.He isn't like that arrogant asshole from TOOL who claims he is more important than the rest of us who pay to see his bands.Fred signs autographs talks with fans listens to our opinions and cares.Wes is cool and all but face it he wants the spotlight!LIMP BIZKIT IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE!!!!!!!
Joey
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I would gladly open up my bank account to anyone willing to take on the task of shutting Fred Durst the hell up!
Jennifer
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JenJen-I think all of US would contribute cash to see Durts dead- such an arrogant cunt! My best wishes to Wes- a talented musician indeed!
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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too many words not enough pictures! god i hate not being able to read properly! fish and chips on my shoulder! haven' posted in a while, i was dead at the time! no..the reason is cos i haven't been in uni, and my internets fucked at home, so yeah...i haven't done anything mildly interesting, i was planning on getting my system of a down tickets yesterday, but its sold out, and then today i find out that they've cancelled it as well!....and about the wes borland thing, good luck to him, but we still have to put up with durst don't we, how much money do we have to get together to have him killed?
jen jen
manchester, uk -
look at that. winning over the crowd over here in toronto. go buy the cd all you new toronto fans - HMV carries it! yes arrow hall was an amazing show. another amazing time. thanx guys!
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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WOW!! It looks as if theSTART has made more than a few fans on their tour with Incubus!
Jennifer
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I Saw thestart at the incubus show at arrow hall last night and tehy kick ass never heard had heard of them before till last night glad i did hear them though
Sun <deep6punkmonkeyboy@hotmail.com>
Toronto, Canada -
look at all of em!
kt
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I just saw the START and Incubus in Arrow Hall in toronto and your band is awesome i have already bought your cd and its wicked hope to see you around toronto again!
Riddler
Toronto, Ont Canda -
I saw you guys with Incubus in SA, TX. Needless to say, I own your cd now. Ya'll are awesome!
Melissa <roxxyx@hotmail.com>
San Antonio, TX USA -
You should have play in baltimore, MD I would love to see you guys play. I love the music.
Colleen <acidfire@mail.com>
Baltimore, MD USA -
I saw you guys last night with Incubus in Toronto...your fucking amazing
Courtney Reznor <nothing_princess@yahoo.com>
Caledonia, Ont Canada -
The start just played in Toronto with Incubus and their Nirvana cover was the amazing. Keep up the good work
Brendan Campbell <theladiesman@beachestoronto.com>
toronto, on canada -
I had never heard of the Start, but at the Incubus concert, they SO kicked ass! I was really into the music, and Echo is a bad-ass. After they finished playing, Incubus came on, and I went to buy a t-shirt. There was Echo, just standing at their table. I freaked out! I went over and asked her to sign my ticket stub. She did, and very humbly said, "Thank you for letting me sign this for you." Aww... isn't that great? Echo, you are so cool, and you are very sweet.
Allena <allenakrynicki@hotmail.com>
Ft. Worth, TX USA -
just tried to buy tickets for theSTART/incubus tonight..and they aer sold out..fukk it im so pissed..any suggestions?
ugh
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I LOVE the Start!
Allena <allenakrynicki@hotmail.com>
Ft. Worth, TX USA -
hey everyone. who else is gonna be at the NY cb's show? HUMAN!!! whats goin on! just to let you know i dont have aol anymore. there is a chance i'll get it back. i'll keep you posted. in the mean time any important info, please mail to the hopefully temp addy, allamericanreject@angelfire.com (inspired by the likes of bikini kill) much love. xxox natalie
natalie <allamericanreject@angelfire.com>
yonkers, ny -
**Hey, what about us little people in pittsburgh? Come visit us, we need to dance. PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE***
Julie <GuiltyByDesign0620@hotmail.com>
Pittsburgh, PA -
Nah man, not EVERYTHING is depressing. Limp bizkit are going to implode. Surely that brings a smile to your face?
Metal Malcolm
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Just saw with incubus. awesome sho breed cover was crayzy everyone go see these kids
Psycho10
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everything is so depressing
kt
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those lyrics have never been confirmed and after seeing theSTART live in august i concluded (or think i concluded) that she miiight actually be singing "am i hysterical?"
stefanie
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"half past three and I'm still awake. The room filled with the strangest glow...........why won't you bring me something. Am I a scary girl?..." ---- A real quote from....I bet you know who! Peace out!...I'm super happy I found my MXPX tape my dad bought for me way back in 1994!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
i think he has talent. i think now, without bizkit, he can explore it.
kt
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YES!!!! YES YES YES YES YES!!!! The moment i've been waiting for for ages. Wes has quit Limp Bizkit. Now there is no need for them to exist and they shall disappear like the memories of a nasty zit!
My day has just got soooooo much better....
Metal Malcolm
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requiem for a dream was a PILE OF SHIT. "but it was artistically..." PILE OF SHIT "but it portrayed the..." PILE OF SHIT. NO REEDEEMING QUALITIES to that fuckin movie. if you really wanna know what heroin's like, buy some afghan smack and shoot it. dont watch movies that make you want to wash your hands afterwards out of sheer, imposed guilt and a general sense of dirtyness. i'm sorry, this just came out after a glance at the other board.
kt
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today, my Friends, a portly little country-folk woman came into the videostore, rather irate, claiming that she had "messed up" her ankle when she stepped in a pothole in our parking space. she told me it was my liability and that if and when she went to the doctor and if the x-rays showed any damage, i'd hear from her lawyer. she was walking just fine. can i ask you, my Friends, a question? how is it...just how is it that you go about fixing a stupid person? is it a terminal affliction? can this woman be cured?
kt <limpandstutter@hotmail.com>
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Hi. im on the street team and i changed my email address?! i really want to still help you guys out with the team and if you dont have my correct email i cant help! can you update my email or something? my old one is metalhed2012@cs.com thanks. my new one is comanyc@cs.com see you at the cbgb show!
James Brellis <comanyc@cs.com>
Farmingdale, NY 11735 -
HEY GUYS I ALSO HAVE A FRIEND THAT WORKS AT A VIRGIN RECORDS IN THE GRAPEVINE MILLS MALL AND THEY WERE TOLD TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ANYTHING WIERD BECAUSE TOO MANY MALLS ALL OVER AMERICA HAVE BEEN HAVING BOMB THREATS AND ONE WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE A LOT AT ONCE. ALSO, THERE WAS A WOMAN WHO HAPPENED TO BE DATING AN ARABIAN MAN WHO PICKED UP AND LEFT TOWN ONE DAY. HE LEFT HER A LETTER SAYING HE LOVED HER AND HE WAS SORRY, BUT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ON SEPT 11 AND OCT 31! SO PEOPLE BE REALLY CAREFUL PLEASE! >>>I got important news tonight. My dad works for FEMA and he's really involved with the goings on in NYC. He told me that within the last 24 hours, more than 30 Ryder, U-Haul, and Verizon trucks have been reported stolen across the country. The U-Haul and Ryder trucks were rented and then never returned, so they're considered stolen. Many of them were rented by people of Arab descent. I don't mean to make any assumptions, and I certainly don't want to scare you, but I thought you all might like to know. Be wary of these vehicles, pay attention to them, and don't walk or park near them. He said to stay out of major public places if at all possible because recreational sites would most likely be hit on weekends. I'm sorry to cause alarm, but he told me it was OK to share this information. If you'd like to forward it to anyone you know, feel free, as there is a possibility it might save lives.<<<
Jacinda <cchamber77@aol.com>
Argyle, TX USA -
HEy Hey! So when are Incubus and theStart thinking of brightening our shores with some wonderful muzik? I'm so bored of the bands that are touring at the mo'. Please come over and save us from the drudge of every day life! Aimee and Brandon.....what more could a bi-sexual ask for?!!!
Skelter <babynothing99@yahoo.co.uk>
Manchester, england -
Dope is coming to LA on the 28th!! Yeah!! Is the start opening for Family values?
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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man it has been time since i have been on hear! i feel so guilty to neglect it.lol.how is every1? soo thestart supporting incubus,yay! if only i lived in us :(
jodie <electravegan@hotmail.com>
peterborough, cambs uk -
it's not that i have a big vocabulary. i just use a lot of big fuckin words LOL
kt
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Stefanie- i'd go anyone too if i were you! maybe you can figure out how to get in somehow... you never know. my friends and i often discuss what we'd do if that happened and never really come to a solution... ugh. oh well. it's not like i can get to Philly anyway.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA usa -
yeah amanda-fill it out----alex, sorry babe about last night, my computer was being a cunt!
-erika
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apparently the philly show is 21+ and i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the other theSTART-only shows were too... goddammit. i'm gonna go anyway i guess.
stefanie
philly, pa usa -
UGH! i wish that Philly show wasn't on a school night or i'd be there!! :-( i'm so sad... ugh. i'm still hoping for a Baltimore show though... Aimee told me they're working on it so i'm STILL keeping my fingers crossed... i was looking at the schedule for Fletcher's in Baltimore (where Aimee said they were trying to get a show) and they have Mary Prankster playing a show on the 26th... so i think theSTART should play with Mary!! that'd be awesome! that'd be a kick ass line up!! ok im leaving now. bye.
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA usa -
KT has such a huge vocabulary...
Alex
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erika - was it that survey thingy??
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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Hey Amanda- did you get my mail?---how is everyone else doing?---haven't heard of jenjen in a while, i'm worried!
-erika <black_mornid_angel@hotmail.com>
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oh god there's a lot of long posts... i'm so exhausted by what's going on in the world, i'm just glad to be far from new york right now... looking forwards to seeing theSTART again in less than two weeks. any other heretics going to the philadelphia show?
stefanie
philly, -
hey Rhiannon, Esex, April, Becky, Danielle, Nick, Daniel, Jesse, Danni, Charlene, Shavaughn, Kristen, Patty, Pickles, Sandy(sand-digger), Maria, Stephanie, "Burn it" Blaine, Ashley, Ashley, Ashley, Kayla, Maryanne, Danni, Vandy, Anto, Contessa, Maryanne, Stephanie.....our band is going to make it because I don't get hard nipple unless it's really really cold!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
shit! Dan! THAT was his name. gotcha. sorry about that Dan.
kt
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KT- "a nice Dreadlocked Fellow" haha!!! that would be Tour Manager Dan!! he's really cool! lol. i had a few nice conversations with him. he was telling me about theSTART patches he was trying to get made and how it's really hard to make patches and stuff. then he had to tell us about the Fairfax show the band was gonna do w/Weezer. but then he realized we were kids and have to go to school. it was really funny. haha. and i swear every other word out of his mouth was "fuck." lol. yeah, so, Dan is awesome!!! if anyone sees a guy with dreads hanging around with theSTART kids it's Dan!! and tell him DJ Homicide's Ladies say 'hi'!!! hahahaa!
Tap <oneireland@yahoo.com>
Mechanicsburg, PA usa -
to: theSTART you guys need to come back to Fresno and rock on! from: me
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
I just saw u guys for the first time last night at the incubus concert and i was amazed. I got to chance to speak to u just for a few minutes and i wish u guys the best a new fan knowing
knowing <rclarks6@aol.com>
san antonio, tx usa -
ok - so i made a post and it doesn't seem to be here. haha. it's lost! but then i see theSPEAKOUT was cleared - so it all makes sense now.
kt and the shirt - an episode finally taken care of! good to hear kt. the horror stories had stopped so we figured you buried it like you said you would.
ok - i'm done. i need sleep. take care people.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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I don't think anyone doesn't want Bin Laden stopped. The problem is that if it's not handled in the right way then in 10 years time you'll have a hundred of them to deal with. And I just think there are better ways to deal with it than bombing the hell out of the entire country. We're always being told in the UK about how amazing and invincible the SAS are. So why don't they just send them in? Oh, I forgot, that was all just propaganda to make us feel protected.... KT, I wondered what happened to the shirt!
Oh and everyone buy the new Therapy? album, it's amazing....
Metal Malcolm
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First I would like to say, I read the long email about the shirt and am disturbed on two levels. One, that a shirt could be evil. Two, that someone had come up with a method of excorsizing evil tee-shirts. Hurts the brain. Ok, no one obviously understands the meaning of the word "anarchy" It is often confused with "chaos", which is what I am seeing from the posts. All anarchy means is "without government." The world itself is an anarchical system because there is no world government. It does not mean rioting, random violence, craziness and generally wacked out things found in "chaos" So just calm down about the whole thing. I got an email from Aimee not too long ago and I think that she is really nice. I am sure she had no intention of offending anyone, she was just trying to say something. Take it for what its worth. And lastly, about the terroris.*sigh* Look, I hate war. I hate fighting and conflict and innocent people dying as much as anybody. And if I thought for one second that we were doing what we are doing out of a sense of revenge, I would condemn it. But I don't believe thats why people are out risking thier lives tonight. Let me try and illustrate. If a man breaks into your house and tells you he hates your family, shoots one of your kids and runs, what do you do? I do whatever it takes to protect my family. if I have to hunt him down, call in everyone I know...if I have to kill him to protect my family, I'd do it. Not because I enjoy killing, but because the liberty and safety of my family, my responsability, is more important than anything. I'm sure as anything am not going to sit on my thumbs and say "well, Im not going to go after him. He'll only hate me more and continue the circle of violence." HELLO! People are accusing the government of just acting in its own self interest. Well DUH! its the government's JOB to act in the best interest of the country. It is the philosophy of power because, other than the United States, who is going to act in the United States best interest? Who is going to give a flip about American vaules such as natural rights, the freedom of speech, and the privlages afforded our country? No body but us, believe it.It is the struggle for power because if you don't have it and use it, someone else will. and not likely in a happy, smiley way. In these attacks, the deaths of innocent people were accidents. I highly doubt the pilots of the F-15's were like "hey look, U.N. workers, 20 points!" *woosh**woosh* I greive for the families of those workers, more so because I lost because of the attack and I know how they feel. But I also understand the sacrifice involved in defending yourself and standing for what you believe. What if we had that attitude during the revolutionary war? "Well, I know freedom is good and all, but the red coats might start a war if we claim independance. Innocent people would die so I'd better not do anything..." Talk about hypocracy. We would be hippocrits if we didn't stand up and fight for our freedom, for the people we love and the nation which protects us. This is the same argument that came up in Korea, Vietnam and WWII. " Are you justified in taking life?" If it means preserving 10 times as many lives, the answer is "yes"! If we had supported the military we would have won Vietnam and been done a lot faster. Because of our inability to support our nation, after we pulled out tens of thousands of south Vietnameese were torchered and killed by the red army. Killed because of our ambivelence and lack of resolve. I'm done ranting now, but, for goodness sake Love your enemy but that doesn't mean hand him a gun!
TigerX
USA -
Hello, my friends. For just a brief holler in the general direction of what we down here in Hays County, central Texas affectionately refer to as yall, let us take a break from all the the hullahballoo, all the floonery, all of the great grand decisive and devisive bummer of yestermonth (as we being a culture who, while possessing the highest standard of living on the face of the planet, have yet to be able to live accurately in the present tense, and thusly find all of the logic and understanding of events only in hindsight of their occurence)…whoops I’m sorry. That’s precisely what I was avoiding and look what I went and done…ah well, anyway, let me tell you all, my Friends, of the events of Tuesday, October 9, 2001. theStart finally came to town for a show at the Austin Music Hall with Incubus. Now there are two very important elements to this story, my Friends, that you must keep in mind: First, My mother. My dear, dear Mother. Ok well, me and mom do not get along very much, and, of all, music’s probably been one of those chief divides. Well, to my continuing surprise she’s had a copy of the album for a month now, and I thought it might be fun to try one of those “bonding” things out and see how it goes by taking her out to the show. As we stood in line after we first got there, I was mortified to see a man came down the rows of kids in line yelling out to everyone “you kids go get rid of your dope, no drugs, we’re on pat-downs tonight!” and seeing, well, just about every other teenager turn around to go put their drugs back in their vehicles. This kind of thing made me very nervous around my mother…because I knew a lot of those kids. And so forth the evening went, as that awkward tension was occasionally prodded at when certain things…normal things that happen at any rock and roll concert started to happen. Now, the second plotline here, my friends, involves something beyond the reaches of our collectively feeble comprehension of the universe, something beyond our so-called peripheral scope of perception, something that involves the very forces of good and evil themselves; a t-shirt. Yes! Yes I know! ‘he’s gone batty!’ you say!? Oh no! Not me! For I could bring you the testament of hundreds who had witnessed the fiery temper that garment harbored! You all, my Friends, need not know of its origin nor do you need to be aware of the circumstances by which it got into my hands; all you need to know is that it belonged to Scott. Whether he wanted it back or not, I don’t care; it was not working out too well with me. Heinous things, I tell you, of the psy-para-fantasmicological nature. I took this shirt with me to the show, hoping to somehow jostle back into place the broken cosmic plumbing of swirling karma to which I was affixed, and purvey it back to its owner. I didn’t know exactly how it was I was going to do that, but my bringing the shirt along to attempt just such an act got my mom interested. “Does that mean youre going to meet them!?”. I didn’t know how to answer this question. You see, my plan was relatively simple; I was just gonna lob the goddamn thing up onto the stage and hope they made the connection. I didn’t know how that could lead to anything beyond them maybe catching a glance at my arm. Regardless, I will have seen the band live and that shirt would be out of my life! TheStart came up onstage at the stroke of eight and broke into their set, and I must say that while the Austin Music Hall is notorious for having royally fucked up the sound quality of every body from the Deftones to Fatboy Slim, the sound itself on this particular night was great. They delivered unto an unsuspecting crowd a dose of something new, something…well, new. Droves were won over in succession by the cover they played, which while I will say was quite worthy of the original, I will not tell you what it was, because that would totally take away from all you kids who haven’t seen em yet. Unless of course, somebody’s already said so. Oh, well. I was closest to Jamie where I was standing, and debated over and over with myself all throughout their set whether or not to just hurl the damn thing up there. ‘What if they think its anthrax?’ I thought. The thought of being hauled out and pummeled for such a misunderstanding had been gnawing away at the back of my mind. So, at the end of their set Aimee says “This is going to be our last song tonight…” at which point I folded the shirt, “…and we’d like to thank Incubus again for bringing us out…” raised it into the air, cocked back my arm to pitch it, “ …like to dedicate this song to Kidneythief…” and then I froze completely and blinked a few times as they began Shakedown. ‘Did I…hear that or think it?’ I thought. I turned to the schmo next to me and tapped him on the shoulder. “What was that? What’d she just say?” I asked. “Something about her kidneys, I think,” he said. Well, hot damn. Now the dilemma was really on. During the course of the song, I decided that since they knew I was probably here, I could convince that guy over there in the merch booth that I was this “kidneythief” character she was up there talking about, and maybe he’d deliver the the shirt for me, so as to avoid any potential hysteria or rioting from heaving it up there at the band. After they walked off stage I went across the floor to where a few of my friends were, and, while they chastised me for not actually throwing it, the issue was immediately put to rest when Jeff came a strolling on out. “Hello,” I said, “I’m this ‘kidneythief’!”. I speak to Jeff about the show, and then convey to him the imperative at hand, involving the shirt. Recognizing the perilous impliccations of the occasion, he told me to wait, and that he’d be right back with Scott. A minute later, out of the corner of my eye came Jeff again, with Scott this time around, who by the way, was all smiles. The fact that he was, as I said, ‘all-smiles’, was a slight befuddlement at first seeing how the man never smiles in any of these pictures on this thing; the residual email contact I had with him for a short period consisted of sentence-long, monosyllabic messages, and the guy ends an interview with “I suck at interviews”. This all led to to believe he was not an “all-smiles” kind of guy, but hey. He had the shirt finally, telling me that I should have burned it. You all must understand, my friends, that I was mortally afraid of this thing and never would have been able to do so on my own without falling into a comatose shock-state of fear. I once tried to excise the occupant(s) myself, following Aimee’s instructions, but I think that merely angered it, as a key required ingredient for the ritual was sea salt, which I took the liberty of replacing with my own mixture of ammonia, muriatic acid and peanut butter, believing that only a potion with a bizarre enough caliber of its own to match that of the shirt itself would do the trick. I was wrong. My punishment for that particular attempt at meddling with such things was a three-week long case of blistering pink-eye, the fourth time I donned the thing. Eurythromycin be damned! I was being scolded by the forces of evil themselves! Now that it was back in Scott’s hands, he invited me to burn the shirt with him after the show. Well…sure, I said. Not long after this, Aimee and Jamie came out, and I thanked them for the dedication, at which point Aimee pointed her finger at me and said “It’s…you’re YOU!” and as I recall that at that particular moment I actually was me, so I replied “Yes…I am me,” and for a few minutes we shot air about the show. I thought around then of Mother, sitting back down by the bar in the foyer, and asked the band if they’d come and say hi. Within the next several minutes the band, my dear, dear Mother and myself were all together down in the foyer chatting about this and that. I guess an attempt at hurling the shirt, in some sort of half-assed way, did accomplish the task, for myself, and for my Mother, who had hoped such a thing would happen even though I assured her it was doubtful. After the show, I caught up with Scott on his way back from a stroll through one of the more seedy corners of this fair city, and we were off to the tour bus to commence the deed. Mother asked Scott, “Does your mom ever come out on tour with you?” to which he replied, “Uh…no…she wouldn’t be able to handle it.” We joined Aimee, Jamie, Jeff, and a nice Dreadlocked Fellow Whose Name I Have Shamefully Forgotten, and while they unfurled the shirt and dug for matches, two young pierced hooligans joined my side and asked what was going on. “Arson,” I replied unto them, “…we’re about to excorcise the evils from this garment.”… “What?” he said. I told him it was a long story, and they understood the danger involved. “Which way is north?” Aimee asked. We pointed it out to her but we were never really sure of what relevance that information took once they began to light it with matches and Bics. “Pour some Vodka on it,” said Jamie, returning from the bus with Eno. Once the fabric was effectively ignited a slow black wisp began to orbit it’s crumpled outline and the odor of burning cloth and silkscreen filled the air. As the flames began to lick at its outer portions, We all joined hands and danced in a circle around it, drawing up and out of the smoldering t-shirt the vibrations of nether-death in a glorious plume. The circle eventually dissolved and pictures were taken, documentation made of the event, by the Dreadlocked Fellow Whose Name I Have Shamefully Forgotten, and a general vapor of ease swept over the group as the feeling of having accomplished something beyond our understanding set in with us. Aimee stood staring at the crackling slogan on the sleeve, and I asked her, “Is this a moment?” and without looking up she said, “Yep…” and nodded. After a little while longer several leather-booted feet came forward to stomp out the limp char left from the burning fabric. The smell was absolutely pungent. “Hey, boy, go piss on it,” Jamie said to Eno. Indeed. And so, after nearly a year now since my reception of the shirt, the deed had been done and the forces of evil conquered. I had, finally, after a couple of years waiting, seen the band live. And for once in several years, in the span of a few hours my dear, dear mother and myself actually had a good time in eachothers’ presence; the moral of this particular tale? I do not know. It was just another one of those fun things that happen in the midst of all this craziness. Thanks very much to the band for that, it was a blast. So, my Friends, go now, back to the deluge of opinions on all this mess we could never possibly wrap our little noodly brains around, and remember to wait for those things that come along once and a while and really break that awful tedium to which we all find ourselves bound by the toes at one time or another…
kt <limpandstutter@hotmail.com>
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hey.......this is a great band! Yeah......this is a great band!.....I hope to see them again. yeah for theSTART!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
is anyone else fucking terrified?
renea <la-d-da@angelfire.com>
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yeah for me and you and the shit we poop!
s marker <blinksbm182@hotmail.com>
Porterville, CA USA -
Okay, I apologise in advance because i'm in a really bad mood at the moment (Personal Reasons), so i'll try and be reasonable, but I'm sorry if I offend anyone. This whole War situation has become incredibly patronising, very arrogant, and just so fucking stupid I'm having difficulty reasoning with it. Leo, let's look at this, you blame the clinton administration. Well, personally, I thought Clinton didn't do too bad. He was an asshole, undoubtedly, but all politicians are. I find it amazing that anyone can use some of the language i've heard this week and not realise what they're saying. Firstly, the powers that be in the US will have made some serious money from this situation, and anyone can realise that if the US really cared, this would never have happened. It's very true that the Taliban government have a disgusting regime, that their treatment of women is unforgivable, and that Osama Bin Laden is a truly fanatic man. BUT THIS DID NOT SPRING UP OVERNIGHT! The US trained Bin Laden, The US have given him the capabilities he has now, the US, had they a modicum of sense, would have known he was "Evil" from the start and never trained him, but they didn't care, they just wanted the russians dealt with. The Taliban has been in power for an age, and the US has supported them financially, mainly because of their supposed anti drugs stance. And now they turn round and say these people are evil? You FUCKING HYPOCRITES! I am not saying thatOsama Bin Laden was not behind the attacks. He almost certainly was. But that's how it looked last time. And then, everyone was wrong. The courts do require a lot of proof, yes, simply so that should never happen. And as for the west not having a Brainwashing mentality, that is so far beyond naive i'm not even going to contemplate it. Anyone who has read a British Tabloid Newspaper should know what I mean. The west will drag out this situation for as long as they can, because they will make more money for the military, the governments will gain more support, and they will increase their stranglehold over the middle east in the battle for Oil etc.The west has allowed this situation to happen, and to now stand up disgusted claiming they'll wipe this "Evil" from the face of the earth is sickening. It literally brings a foul taste to my mouth.
There's an anti war meeting in hyde park, 12 noon, saturday. If anyone in the UK wants to go, i'll be there. Mail me to meet up.
Again, I repeat my question. WHAT IS A TERRORIST? WHAT IS TERRORISM? NOBODY CAN TELL ME, AND I'M GETTING REALLY PISSED OFF ABOUT IT!
Metal Malcolm
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Hey, I yook this pic at theSTART music video shoot! I KNOW everyone will like it, ESPECIALLY AIMEE! The pic is Of Jaime and Craig of Deadsy... ENJOY ;) http://www.angelfire.com/ca6/melrosefetish/images/craigjamie.jpg
Olivia <melrosefetish@yahoo.com>
Los Angeles, CA USA -
shall we begin?
echo <echo@thisisthestart.com>
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