speakoutarchive XI 06/01/01-08/01/01

startdate 20010801
archive XI

just making sure everyone voted for thestart http://www.totalmusicnetwork.com/main/
BaTTY
chicago, il -

I think that you guys and "Echo" you fucking rock women keep up the bitchin work. All you hope your having fun back east.I see your website looking bigger and you all will be on the top before long.Take care and God Bless Shelley
angle n seattle <angleleatherlace@aol.com>
rochester, wa USA -

Does anyone else find the new Speakout difficult? It doesn't seem to let me read the message(s),damn it! I'm registered, but I don't know. I'm a computer dunce! LoL...
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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I still can't see... it's like part black and stuff!! I hate hate hate my computer!!! They should make a video for "shakedown" too!!
Emily
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I loved this message board cause you can read what everyone says-- I'll just have to be versatile and use both-- everyone be sure to check out the video section cause we are all in it!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca USA -

I am one of those people who doesn't get MTV2. Finally saw the video. But my real player sucks!!!! But it looks amazing!!! Why does the site say that the video's name is called "shakedown" did anybody else see that??? Weird. Great Puke report!!!
Emily
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who all is sticking with me and keeping this place alive? the format for that other one is too much of a headache!
kt
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I think this speakout is so original. I shall never abondon it; I think it's the best site around. It is so much easier to write what you want to in this board the other one is way-too high teach for me. LoL.....
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
bell, ca -

I LOVE THE MUSIC!!!
MEG <MEGCOOL1@YAHOO.COM>
DENVER, CO USA -

Yup. The new site is great. But The interviews!!!

I never knew there was an HWP vid! What was it for? Powerstrip? I'm shaking I swear. IMUST SEE THIS VIDEO!!!! Can anyone help?
Metal Malcolm
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the new site is fucking great! wow! way to go you guys!
-erika <black_morbid-angel@hotmail.com>
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wow i just went on the new site and saw the gorgeous video...very cool...and i saw the individual interviews of all the members...which gave me a chance to hear the other guys talk...i love the site.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

hey everyone.. the new site is cool..although this one is where it all began! so i love this one better then that one for some apparent reason. is it REALLY true that u can be put on the guest list if ur on the street teaM? cuz i want to be put in for the incubus show! i dont wanna go to italy anymore MUST SEE theSTART!!!!
Laura <xBailarinax@aol.com>
New Rochelle, NY USA -

i had the most bizarre dream last night: i was sitting on a wooden bench in a faceless green park. it was very sunny and warm outside with comfortable cool breezes and a lot of bird chirping and oh cheery day. there were a lot of families and couple and other patrons, jogging picnicing and going about their sunny afternoons without a worry in the universe. i was reading a book. i looked up several times to spectate with the commonfolk a mime who had appeared out of nowhere to dance and flap and flail around and poke his finger into peoples' ears and such. he was wearing a black and white vertically striped longsleeve shirt and black highwatering trousers. he wore rainbow suspenders and a long, fat tie that had a giant exclamation point on it. he had on a beret, white face paint, red lipstick and cirlces on his cheeks, and big black suprised-looking eyebrows painted on his forhead. he was wearing white gloves. i watched him for about thirty minutes while he bounced around and did the crazy kind of shit that mimes do, and then suddenly we made eye contact and he stopped what he was doing and very melodramatically stared back at me. at this point we had everyone in the park's attention. not once changing his expression from a blank ear-to-ear grin, he danced right up to me, plugged his ear with one hand, pulled a silver .357 magnum revolver from his pocket with the other and shot himself in the foot. the book i was reading was an unabridged copy of Melvilles' Moby Dick.
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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just got my shit comp (pardon french) to play the new clips they are great and i love the new flash site, cant wait till the album comes out over here ( and yes i know i could order it over the net, but i am an impoversihed student and at the mo i am broke)凶𤊄
sway
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im female, just for metal malcolms info
sway
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Chill man, chill...I can't get on there either. But the new site does look damn cool. And as for the video, even through my abysmal connection, it looks amazing. And Echo looks...well...I think amazing should do.

Anyone see themselves? You lucky video starring people types you...
Metal Malcolm
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on wed. The Drummer for Berlin came into my store, I had been trying to get him to go to your website for like a year already, but I dont think he ever did... But I had bought your cd on tuesday, and Played it in my store, even though it isnt on the play list... We usually have our system on shuffel, but when he walked it I stoped it and put it on continuous play because I knew he would love you guys. He bought your cd!!! I also tried to get him to go to the Professional Murder Music show on August 25th at the whiskey... thanks, I am so great...haha
carolin <stereophrenic@hotmail.com>
camarillo, ca -

well for christs sake. interscope denies me registration every time i try. someone else did it! why the fuck can't i? i'm doomed to be the lone occupant of this one after all of you folk have moved on to the NEW speakout, i'm sure of it...AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! someone will come back and visit me on occasion, right? someone will come once and a while to throw some bread and pork rinds at me, right? maybe a little campbell's condensed tomato soup, too? so i at least won't FEEL so isolated?
kt
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sorry i didn`t mean the start i mean any band who makes an upbeat song usually craps it up.I`m not dissing them their great. and to me it upbeat so don`t go against me on that. Stay cool and chill everyone,
Iceburg <WARDDRAW2@aol.com>
Margate, Kent England -

HEY 1)I agree with what someoone said at one point in the long list of posted shit (no offence). England`s major exports in music are all indie bands and pop stars. I want nu-metal, rap, hardcore and punk bands from the uk to get out there to show we arent all a bunch of hearsay clones. I guess the prob must be there arent enough proper hardcore labels here for budding artists (I myself am gonna try and make a band after summer). 2) That song Gorgeous(by the start of course) suprised me first i thought Aimee Echoe`s voice would be deeper (found the site in the newest kerrang i know fuck all about the band ) but its fine. And secondly its the first kinda upbeat song that i don`t wanna kill the band for (most upbeat songs are shit). Please reply to this with what you think about my views someone. stay cool and chill everyone
Iceburg <WARDDRAW2@aol.com>
Margate, Kent England -

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. the video is on the new flashed up website, oh happy day.
Fiona
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HOT!! Attended the concert - what a BAND! Only regret - unable to meet the band members or get an autograph, but I hold out hope for the future! COME BACK!!!
Dave <dbell2022@aol.com>
El Paso, TX -

Wow!!! Soooo Many people, this is insane!!! I haven't posted on here for ages!!! I am so jealous.... all you lucky people getting to see theSTART, and the album isn't even released over here yet (although we have got it ordered.....)! heh... Aimee, Jamie, Jeff & Scott, hope to see you downunder some time in the not too distant future, me an Laura (an many others)are dying down here!!!! Much love and Lotsa Luck.....Amy xoxo
Amy <nemesis80@lycos.com>
Oz Land -

hey! just wanted to say hi and thanks to the Aimee, Scott, Jeff, and Jaime...i had a great time hanging out in Denver last night and i can't wait to see you all again! i hope the rest of your tour goes as well as last night did and that a lot more people fall in love with the splendiferous creation that is theSTART! best wishes and much thanks for a great show and a lot of fun...Love you guys!
Andrea <eternica@aol.com>
Denver (til i'm in LA again!), CO USA -

my good friend kate got me hooked on thestart. she's gotten yelled at alot for not being able to take me to some of the shows when i had no other way of getting there. but i still love her. ^_^
i heart aimee. she rawks my world. ^^ the cd is lovely, and makes me feel immensely better when i have my little cutting urges (which i have not indulged in, thanks to you and some other people) so..thanks.

molly who's watching a really really bad japanese melodrama.
molly <manticore_brat@hotmail.com>
los angeles, CA USA -

Hey, I saw The Start in San Diego several months ago, and they were incredible. The only problem was that I was in MD when Shakedown! came out, and I couldn't find a copy!! So, I ordered online and it's as great as I expected! I also think its really awesome that this site has the "act" page. I think more bands need to take advantage of their position and call attention to issues. Keep up the great work!!!
Marsea <marseaca@hotmail.com>
San Diego, CA USA -

Hello Lovely Heretics. How was everyones' day? Where is Amanda, Katie? Your welcome Emily. Did anyone watch, weakest-link? It was cool. Hmmm. I guess I've rambeled on enough today. Hopefully everything is great with the tour guys. ~*Love*~
-erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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I bought "Shakedown!" yesterday and I must say I am truly amazed. I love it! My favorite song is "Nemesis". I just wish "Flying machine" and "Be Mine" were on it though.
Amanda <DistortedOblivia@aol.com>
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Thanks Erika! You are too sweet.
Emily
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Dean: theStart was supposed to be on the East Coast leg of the Warped Tour (but the Sugar Ray tour came up instead), so the comp was probably put together before the change. Yeah, Limp Bizkit was on Warped. 1997 I believe. I have a bootleg vid of them in FL that during the Warped Tour.
Cindy
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hey man, neither can i. but that doesn't stop the state of texas from issuing me a license! ha ha!
kt
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Yeah, tim, it was the one with STP on the cover, as the man, or woman, said. Cool name by the way. I never see that many Glassjaw Fans. They are indeed fantastic.

As for all you driving people. Well done. I can't drive, at all. Which is quite scary really.
Metal Malcolm
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notice how we all congradulate one another, this is a loving place....congrads emily.
-erika
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I just recently saw The Start when they opened for Sugar Ray in Portland Oregon. They were great! My friend and I both went right out the next day and bought the cd--and its one of the best cds I own! So I just wanted to let everyone know what a great band they are--YOU GUYS ROCK!
Keeley <bugginkeelz@hotmail.com>
Beaverton, OR USA -

Any one know of the video? When the heck is it coming out? I thought it would of popped up just before the album came out. Will it be up at the site? BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ... did anyone else see Twiggy on Cribs the other night? Damn, I gotta get me a pool
Borden Kid #20 <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USoffregginA -

Well, maria, it's a good thing you're a good driver and nothing happened. On Friday, I saw a car make a left lane change really sharply, and I guess he didn't judge the space between he and the car in front of him. The person ended up hitting the rear bumper of the car in front of him, forcing them both into the center divider. It was kinda burly. All the cars were smoking and turned around and crunched. It was sad.
Alex
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Oh yeah, about Kerrang! If you look in the one with System Of A Down on the cover, there is a story with Goldfinger inside, and bald guy....I think he plays guitar...he is all sportin a theSTART shirt. I was like, yeaaaah!
Alex
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i passed the first time with only one wrong. **it's the smart ones you gotta look out for** i've been a terror for almost a year now. let me tell you, last week on the way to this club in hollywood i was going 70 in the third lane then this lady in the second going 35 gets in my lane! no blinker no nothing! i slammed the brakes all the way and came that close *holds up thumb and index* to hitting her. that was stupid. so i honk and honk at her. i pull up next to her, of course my friends gives the finger. we pull in front of her and slow down to 40. then she tries to get into the left lane so i follow her, gets into the right i follow her. slowed down suddenly a few times. kept up the lane switching till she pulled to the farthest right lane. SHE BETTER NOT DO THAT AGAIN!!! personally i believe in fairness, you put your blinker on i slow down if your gonna go my speed. i stop to let people in coming out from drive ways (ya know how you always get stuck there) lalala, but don't cut ME off or other people cause i'm out there to get you!**when someone knows their car well, you better follow the rules around them**
maria
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Oh.. you guys are too funny! I feel much better now. My parents are thinking about buying me a used car "to learn" then sell it after I pass my driving test. I will continue to be a pedestrian until I go away to college.
Emily
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i failed my written test 3 times before i ever got my license.
kt
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well, i havent been here in a long time...haha, i say that every time i come back here....ive been busy with my band...well anyway...im not sure if anyone has said anything about this, but target has a compilation cd with theSTART on it, im not sure if its legit though....because its supposed to be for bands that are on warped tour.....so, someone please try and find out whats going on...and another thing, in the jaclet of this cd it talks about bands that were on warped tour before they were big, and it says limp bozkit was one of them, i dont ever remember them being on warped tour...someone just clue me in.....
Dean <chape169@hotmail.com>
bowie, md -

the article in kerrang is in the issue dated 28th july 2001
sway
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hey metal malcolm, i was wondering if you could tell me what is the date on the issue of kerrang! magazine with the news article on thestart & the gorgeous video shoot. we get the kerrang! issues about two to three weeks later over here, so if i know the date i'll know when to look for it. thanks, tim.
tim <prettylush@hotmail.com>
leiden, the netherlands -

passed my driving over a year ago and drove only about 3 times, but its diff over here, dont get permits and such lol allowed out on the roads after test and that it lol might account for some of the drivers here
sway
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LOL you problem drivers. Oh ya but I can top both you kiddies...I am geting my permit this coming Wednesday.I mean really, it took me long enough. I am fucking almost 18 I figured hey, I think it's about time for my damn permit! Not only will I be a problem on the roads of Arizona...I am coming out to Cali to terrorize you all with my driving, as well :) lol watch outttttttttttt!
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

Hey Emily, I just got my liscense yesterday! I failed my first test cause I stopped at a green light, and apparently you're not supposed to do that. But yeah, I am now another problem on the roads of California.
Alex
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don't worry alex, i'll post it up....i live near barnes and noble and they have billboard magazine and i always check that...it will come out sometime next week.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Finally got my driver's permit today in the morning at the DMV!!! After seven months I signed up for the class, my parents just got up this morning around 6 and took me. I'll warn all of you beautiful LA people when I am on the road. hehe.. So you can stay inside, where it is safe. yeah!
~Emily
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I saw you guys at "The Joint" at the Hard Rock Hotel in Vegas and was totally blown away..........I bought your CD the day it came out and again, was totally blown away. You guys have some awesome talent and I can't wait to see you guys when you come to Michigan, keep up the great work guys and gal. Steve Swihart
Steve Swihart <gritbiscuit@yahoo.com>
Jackson, MI USA -

If anyone knows how to find how theSTART did on the charts this week, post it up here. They aren't in the top 100, because that is posted, and if you want to see the top 200, you need to be a member and pay or something. So, if anyone finds out, be sure to put it up here.
Alex
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Doesnt ENO rock??? he has the cutest lil voice ever!!! i played it and my dog looked up and started whimper.. the start is not only for humans but for animals too ;) *laura *lillie has a crush on eno*
Laura <xBailarinax@aol.com>
New Rochelle, NY USA -

i wonder how the bands' doing. a significant chunk of tourings flown by since last anyone heard or posted anything.
kt
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what a suprise. it's the exact same way here! *goes da-da chishhhhh with fingers and laughs hysterically for five minutes, before looking up on the TV and seeing Willa Ford, immediately erupting into uncontrollable and convusive bawling with his hands over his face*
kt
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i live in uk there is no good music and hypocrasy rules
sway <voodoo_29982@hotmail.com>
中dont live in one中, ?�? ENGLAND -

Got home this morning from my friend Sams, and what's this I see? An envelope? Addressed to me? What could be in it? Oh, a new CD? AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
After nearly a year and a half on this board, begging for an album, i'm finally holding it in my hands. Sweet. Although I have to admit guys, it's a real let down. See now my faith in Music has been ruined. Why? Because after this, every album I listen to will be deemed unworthy. This is quite possibly the best album I've heard in years. What a let down huh? ;o)

And yes, three cheers for Human. A great job well done. Keep it going. I can't leave the speakout.
Metal Malcolm
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Wow! you guys are gettin a new website. a professional professional one none the less. movin on up. Human, you did a great job with this one. love you much
natalie
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I was wondering if anyone is gonna see theSTART in indanapolis? If so eMail me. -Mia
Mia <BlueAmphetamine@hotmail.com>
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Monolith - I'll set up some space on my domain *plug plug* for the mp3, if you like...it'd be quicker than freeservers, mail me if you're interested. :-)
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Aww, that's so cool. I, unfortunatly, used to live in Utah, and I know right where they played. It's like, right by a lil shopping mall. And I just found out that if we had known about it *eh HEM* we could have listened to the interview over the internet. Oh well. Hope everybody is doin good. So many new names....boy oh boy....will they remember us? I wonder if they will go to Europe this year? -Lex
Alex
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Hey I just wanted to say I just saw the Start at a free radio show here in SLC, UT and what else can I say but it rocked. It was kinda funny/kinda sucked but half way through "Time" the blew the main breaker and lost all power so for about a half hour Aimee just sat down and shot the breeze with those of us up front. Jaime also busted out his accoustic and we all joined in a sing along of a few songs (about half of Bon Jovi's dead or alive, one of Nirvana's and the chorus to Green Day's time of your life since no one knew the actuall lyrics to it.) It was just alot of fun. Then the finally got the power up and they finished the set. Can't wait to see them again. Oh and Aimee and Scott both seemed kinda surprised to see that I and least one other person brought the HWP cd to get it signed.
Reverend
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please do upload it ans share we shall be greatful forever.
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Anyone know of a place where I can upload files for free so that everyone can get the acoustic version of Gorgeous that I recorded? I'm having trouble uploading it to Geos*ities so if anyone has any ideas....
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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Hey guys, I was wondeing if anyone knew anything about the Start show that is supposed to take place in Syracuse, NY on 8/12? It's been listed as TBA forever now and I want to make sure their still planning on playing there, otherwise i gotta get tickets for the cleveland or pittsburg show (which are coming up fast). Anyone have any info? Thanks!
keith <jmages@jjnaples.com>
Buffalo, NY USA -

hi,i'm playing THE START at work right now!
miranda lawson <pnkanimal@yahoo.com>
pasadena, ca usa -

oh orgy is working on their third album which is slated to released in 2002..so they're not going to be on the family values tour..oh well..but if they were on..i couldn't handle it.it would be too overwhelming of me..hehe.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Hmmm. Who else is playing 'Family Values'? theSTART is all I need in reality to attend; deadsy is great, so that's so cool. It would be cool if Orgy also played. What has happened with Orgy? oh well.....
-erika
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yes thestart is going to be on the west coast leg of family values tour! woohooo! i'm so happy...deadsy is playing along as well...i can't wait.. i want to see these bands play in big venues. :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

newspage is updated!! Yeah!
Emily
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How strange So now everybody is moving to the other site to post. Hopefully everybody will get used to it.
Emily
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oh no...i hope there will be a speakout on the geffen site. if not...well, regardless, i will still haunt this one from time to time.
kt
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heya, just wanted to say I got the CD last night and its great! I love Shakedown...I wish I lived on the west coast so I could have been in the gorgeous video..
meghan <a_stupid_girl@angelfire.com>
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hey tim :)
Fiona
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will you people PLEEEASE tell me when abouts youre seeing the video?!?
starbaby
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Hey everybody. I finally got my Start cd, I had to order it because it didn't come into my town. It is brilliant. Thanks so much to the band for putting out such an amazing album. If anybody can direct me where I can buy a t-shirt I would love to hear. Also, a little side note. My small town in northern minnesota just got a new place for people to perform, ok it is the old high school auditorium. Anyway, Kevin Bacon's band played there tonight, and no they didn't suck, they were actually allot of fun. After the show, myself and my girlfriend waited out back for a while and got to meet him and the rest of the band. It was a great night, nothing like that has ever happened in this town. And get this, they closed with "Footloose", it was very funny considering his first big break was in the movie "Footloose" all those years ago. I think they did it to acknowledge his other career:) So now I can play 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon much easier:)
Leo Alberti <orbitalgun76@hotmail.com>
Bemidji, MN 56601 -

Heretics! the Label & Geffen records have designed a new website for the START! it has flash & video & a new bulletin board... WE will be letting them have this domain address.. however for those who like this old school site.. this site will remain intact (including the Speakout in this format).. but will be moving to http://www.thestart.org thanks! human
human <human@thestart.org>
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Shirts are $27.00, They have to sell them at the same Price as Sugar Ray. :-(
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oops.. sorry 'bout the bad english. meant to delete the last "look like" :-D
Cindy
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can someone post what the shirts look like that they are selling at the shows look like? I'm going to the St Paul MN concert Monday (anyone else going?) and am VERY excited! (finally, to see them live after liking them for so long now!) :-)
Cindy
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hey
suzy
USA -

Hey I saw you guys in Dallas, and you guys are great, Just wanted to let you know. I am glad to see a new and different band out there. Oh and the Album is awesome.
Paris <MParisxoxo@aol.com>
Plano, TX 75024 -

"i want this, i want that! i want i want i want!".....
kt
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i want another damn tour report.
kt
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They should really really really update the news section!!! The cd is out and they should have a big big huge sign that says "Shakedown is in stores now".
Emily
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My sister and I went to your show in Los angeles. Were not the type to jump, yell or even sing to lyrics we dont know. But when we heard those amazing words come from the singer of our time, the new john lennon, we rocked out. fuck to be honest, we probably looked really stupid dancing in the aisle but we didnt give a shit, infact, we didn't even resent the fact that we were chiming in with "Heys" on shakedown and turning to everyone in the crowd getting them to join us with their little fists punching the air. By the way,,you have the hottest band we have ever seen, while I (the big sister) am crushed out on you "echo"(even though I don't like chicks)my little mini me is completely smitten by the guitar player...Can't wait till you come back to town again..Brooke and Lizzie...hehe P.s ...keep on rockin in the free world!$$$$$ P.s.s True fans buy two CD's
me and my sis
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our first single, as the Corky Smackwaddle's Tall Fisherman Trio featuring one-legged virtuoso Banjo Bobby and the Rev. "Toothless" Larry, will be entitled "the Sweaty Swamp Stomp"
kt
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the merch. runs from 25-30$ a shirt.
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Hey Laura. if you want to chill some time before the show and give me money ill be glad to pick something up for you. Oh, that reminds me how much is the merch running for?
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
yonkers, ny -

i woke up this morning and i was running to my cd player to listen to theSTART. its like a new addiction. i think this band is going to get sooooo big! everything is so clever in this album that it would be a shame for people to let this go! Much luck !!! does anyone kno where i can purchase any merchandise? or when its comin out? cuz i wont be here for the NY show! and i DONT want to wait till october for the incubus show
LaUra <xBailarinax@aol.com>
New Rochelle, NY USA -

Hey people oversees! Why don't you just order the cd from a US distribitor like CDNOw or somewhere and get it shipped. Or you can sent money to a heretic you trust and have them send it to you... then you get it ASAP! Good luck anyways!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

If you like Orgy and deadsy...you will love JETA...this is a fresh new band based in southern california...they combine futuristic synthized music of today with soaring vocals of yesterday... www.mp3.com/JETA ...come check this band out and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!
jeremy kinnick <jeremyjeta@hotmail.com>
ontario, ca usa -

hi fiona.
timmy <fiercecircle>
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Anyone know when the album is going to be out in the Uk???
Em <ribenaberry54@hotmail.com>
Leeds, England -

...or maybe Corky Smackwaggle's Tall Fisherman Trio, Featuring one-legged virtuoso Banjo Bobby Brenham and the fearless Rev. "Toothless" Larry Cobb. Debut Album: "Hellfire in the Hill Country"
kidneythief
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Well, i've never ordered online before. But I took the plunge. One bright shiny copy of Shakedown is on it's way to me.
Oh, and all Brit peeps. Make sure and watch "Brass Eye" tonight, 'tis sure to rock.

And in other news....don't Sir Puke look so cute in his lickle pic on the report? All together now...Awwwwwwwwwww! :o)
Metal Malcolm
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i have been waiting a long time for the album to come out and i am not disappointed at all, it rocks!!! i could tell right away that josh produced he did an awesome job. i hope to see them soon.
nikki schwartz <flyingtorsowoman@hotmail.com>
perrysburg, oh usa -

FIONA - those nice people at Alice's records always send CD's so fast don't they :) I've been mostly using the CDS to drown out my next door neighbours many brats.
Mikey <Sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
London, UK -

if i was ever in a band, i'd name it the Dead Bob Flanagans. our debut album would be called "The Dead Bob Flanagans and Their Perilous Ascension to Dimensions Beyond"
kt
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I bought the album yesterday and it's freakin' amazing. I've never heard such a perfect blend of sounds and vocals to create some of the most perfect music ever.The wait was worth it.
thePROFESSOR
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Hello darklings... I received 'Shakedown!' in the post this morning, fantastic - There is a crappy jazz band playing extremely loudly outside my office window and i am pleased to be able to drown it out with the sounds of theStart. yes. and remember - "to err is human, to forgive divine".
Fiona
London, UK -

woo hooo! i got shakedown! today, at tower records in HAWAIII. YEEEAH. They had it in the very front in the new releases section, so that is very cool. it was only 10 bucks tooo. i love the artwork in the booklet, its so colorful!
punchy <sara@spooky-kids.com>
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it's 3:14am and 'nemesis' has me pumped up for the day! oh ya!
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Hey all.... I saw theStart @ Libby Airfield... Sierra Vista AZ.... Absolutely dig you guys now... have to go get the cd.... been hard up for dinero so asap I am so there. You guys TOTALLY ROCK and I wish you nothing but the MOST GREATEST BESTEST SUCCESS EVER! :) ( I know good english.... )
Miss Amber
Tucson, AZ -

I hope you all come here to New Orleans...it would rock like a hurricane! I never got to see HWP live, so it would be really nice and stuff. I'd take tons of pictures for *FREE* and hook you all up with cokes or water or something. I hope the force will be strong in this...sigh.
Tommy S. <elanmars@hotmail.com>
Mandeville, LA USA! -

theSTART is going to be huge!
-erika
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damn!! who are all these people? it's all good! dont got the cd yet. no money!!! sorry i lost the count down.. got abandoned, left for dead in San Diego, a drive thats more than 2 hours from my house!!! thatStart are totally gonna get huge, i can't believe that there already being played on MTV! if only i had cable >:( **cheers to all**...puke report is up!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

alright, i messed up. i thought this was a "signature type thingy". (hmm...what should i say to all the strange faces). hi. i'm ender, i got theSTART's "shakedown" a couple of weeks ago (promo from my store), i love it, it's currently in my favorite slot at the store, along with the other things i promote, i forced my manager to listen to it. i knew if i could get her to listen to the promo that she would open one when we recieved some on the release date, success!! it's constantly being played, and i am happy whenever i work, well 1/5 of the time since we have to keep the c.d. player on spiral random. my favorite song is "dirty lion", i love how amiee says "desire oh-o-woe", makes me quiver, heehee. godspeedyoublackemporer!!! for this is only theSTART, amen.
ender <iender@msn.com>
tx -

godspeedyoublackemporer!!! for this is only theSTART.
ender <iender@msn.com>
tx -

Wow!! Look at all these new heretics!! Cool!! Congrats to the band on the release.. wooooooo!! Amy and I saw tool last night and it was AWESOME!! It was a double exciting day being Shakedown day and seeing tool. All the wait was worth it! I lost my job this morning cos I went to tool last night and was late this morning.. hah.. Why do people always try to ruin days like that??.. It hasn't worked anyway.. Bye all
lauRa <fable@writeme.com>
OZ -

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! you guys kick ass I saw you last night in last night in seattle and fell in love with your band, i bought the c.d. it is so GOOD!!! you guys rock, GOOD LUCK I cant wait for you to come back to Washington, I will for sure be at your next concert.!!!!
Toni Davey <Tmdavey@hotmail.com>
Othello, WA USA -

got the cd for my birthday today. i love it. godd bless theSTART.
lindsay lamebrain <lollirot@perfectnothing.com>
columbus, IN USA -

Shakedown kicks ass...i got it today, its chilling.
Elo
L.A, -

I just saw you all at In Seattle last night and I just wanted to say that you are great and to keep up the good work, it's people like you that give us people some one to look up to and have a good time with.I hope to see you when you come back to Seattle or the Washington area. My sister and I were the ones that had you sign our arms and thanks Puke for the diet coke.We beleive in you and take care.Don't ever forget the your true fans or friends who where behide to support you since the release of you first #1 album7/24/2001 Please write if you have time I would love to hear from all you.Sincerly the twon girls arms and hip you sighed. Lot of luck keep up the Bitchin work we need more people like you in this messed up world.Love always Shelley&Kristi Henderson From Seattle Washington.
Shelley Henderson <Angleleatherlace@aol.com>
Rochester, Wa USA -

Just bought the CD. It's great!
Phil Gonzalez <philip@riedelenterprises.com>
Monterey, CA USA -

hey i wanna know more about this band they are cool please send me more info at energiengel@hotmail.com i like jeff hehehe he's soooo sexxxy =0) *drooling* take care caro
carolina m跫quez <energiengel@hotmail.com>
monterrey, nl mexico -

i enjoyed your set very much, thanks for coming to Monterey, i know it was kinda intimate but this town is afraid of the dark or somthing and not many people come out for live music. rock on!
James Brian <bassdrums@musician.net>
Monterey, ca usa -

i wonder if theSTART will ever play lil-clubs again? they're huge rock stars now! they deservie it!
-erika
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I was at the dog fashion disco show a few days ago at the Irvine. The keyboard player was listening to the Start outside their bus. I had never even heard the Start before. Apparently the guy from dog fashion disco is a big fan and he burned me 3 of the Start's songs. Fucking brilliant. This band is amazing. Can't wait to get the full CD.
Steven
NYC, NY USA -

Hey ! I can't wait to have the album !!! I went to the best record store in Paris and asked looked for the album... Nothing ! I asked someone... "Sorry there's nothing." Aaaargh ! It's out since yesterday and I don't have it yet !!! I've ordered it at CDnow, I must receive it in the next 5 days... So please please, do something for Europe (you know, over the sea), make the record come out here, and by the way, you can still tour in Europe too, there are some people ! thanx for existing bye frozertt
De Greef Ulrich - frozertt <frozertt@wanadoo.fr>
Etampes, France -

G'Day heretics!!! I finally got to post about the album after i got it. yesterday i went to best buy n the stupid people had it in the back so i sat there n told them to go get it fur me...its a fantastic album by the way...we've been waiting almost a year for this! Also, member the demo songs, including "perfect machine" and such...how come 2 of those songs arent on shakedown? and where can i find them now? one last question, on thursday, theSTART will grace me in chicago! i have every intention of meeting aimee and the band if possible. does anyone know if they go straight to the tour bus after their set or hang around? help me out! thanx all.
*Stefanie RaYna* <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, IL 60047 -

Aimee! Whats goin' on? Well i met you last night in Seattle, and i will say you were nothing less than charming! I dont know if you would remember me but i told you your make-up looked phat and you hugged me because i pointed out how beautiful you are! Hey, i can appreciate a talented, pretty, lead singer!! I hope to hell that you move to Seattle, that would be so wicked. I have nothing but respect for you and your band, and you have my unconditional devotion! I didnt get to meet the rest of your band, they were hangin out with some chicks... i didnt want to ruin their shit! hehehe im so considerate huh? Anyways im so happy for you and the release of your cd, and you played an awesome show here in Seattle. plus you got that awesome tat, Go Aimee!!! Im gonna try to come to a ton of your shows, hey who knows, maybe we'll hang out some more. Ok, Peace out my sister! Hehehe, bye!
Mikala <mikala_vaughn@hotmail.com>
Seattle (hell yes), WA -

well, HMV still haven't heard of Shakedown so i'm just gonna order it off the net...its much easier and i don't have to leave my house! how good is that!

and malcolm i was thinking that too about the possible interview next week...if there is YAY! more stuff for may wall!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Thanks for the details, I shall order straight away. However, this may be of interest, a news article in Kerrang! today, with a Pic of Echo and Everything!
TheSTART, The band featuring ex-Human Waste project singer Aimee Echo, have just completed work on a promo vidoe for their debut single "Gorgeous". The clip was filmed in Los Angeles last month and was directed by Doug Friedman
"It was a really, really long day of us playing the same song over and over again in the Whiskey-A-Go-Go," Aimee tells Kerrang! "at one point I was onthis Giant Turntable doing this spinning shot and there was this 12-foot light that was behind me and it just keeled over. It fell in slow motion and it was really scary. It slid down my leg but didn't get me, thankfully."
Echo's new band sees the singer take a very different direction from her days with melodic nu-metallers Human Waste Project.
"My vocal style is the same,. but it's a lot more song oriented," says Aimee. "It's definitely got a post punk flavour. I've always been a punk rock girl. I think I was raised that way. I couldn't call it punk though because once you play more than three chords and your musicians play their instruments well I don't think that's technically punk rock anymore!"
TheSTART's debut album "Shakedown!", will be released in the UK later this year through Geffen. Sound Samples are available to download from the bands official website at www.thisisthestart.com

Not bad huh? Also in the "This issue was created with stimulation from..." section at the back, it lists " a phone call from Aimee Echo (echo,echo....)". Cheesy yes, but this raises the question...wil there be an interview next week? :oD. I'm off to rest my hands. That typing takes it out of you...
Metal Malcolm
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(THIS IS A REALLY LONG REVIEW...SO SIT DOWN AND READ IT EITHER WAY!...lol) Hello Pretty Heretics This my own review of 騌hAkEdOwN�. theSTART𠏋 first record, 騌hAkEdOwN� was released yesterday, July 24, 2001. (I𠍿 sure all of us know that though, right?) The cover art is something original. You receive a surprise when taking the cd into you hot lil hands and see a wonderful doggie, my babe EnO. Once you pop 騌hAkEdOwN� into your cd player, you don㦙 know what to expect from this magnificent band. All you feel is energy arise from everywhere, this lil force field let us say. The first song is 騌hAkEdOwN�. This song is has catchy riffs along with startling drum beats. Then you mix a bit of Miss Echo𠏋 voice in there and what more could you want. 𩂈ise up! dance to a different beat rise up! shakedown rise up! free your mind of what they say rise up! shakedown rise up! dance to a different beat rise up! free your mind of what they say rise up! dance to a different beat rise up! shakedown� ~aecho Then the cd continues with a song we all know and love, 𡛓oRgEoUs�. This song makes you feel what miss echo is saying. It makes you think of that special someone we all have. 鷔o gorgeous was the day we met I couldn㦙 speak except to say how gorgeous that I though you were to me亘aecho 飈oMmUnIoN� is the song that follows. This is a more melodic song. Miss Echo enchants you with here voice. She draws you in, like puddy in here hands. Miss Echo is not out of her mind, but we sure are as crazed fanatics. 魀𠍿 out of my mind there𠏋 no words to communicate to you i𠍿 out of my mind there𠏋 no words to communicate to you亘aecho 餹eLt� is the fourth song on the cd. This song is really up-beat and extremely explicit in the way you feel for someone. This a wonderful song to declare to someone how much you like/love them. Miss Echo is so romantic, isn㦙 she? 㣃or one look at you you know I pulled the stars down from the sky for one look at you I would bring you every light� ~aecho Then comes 喰aNg On Me�. This song is an ensperation for change, independence from that someone. It𠏋 super up-beat and catchy, a song we could all dance to. 魐ey hey, she said i𠍿 not half the man I used to be the shoes you lent me don㦙 seem to fit the same� ~aecho 飇iRtY LoIn� is a song that makes you wonder it𠏋 contents. It𠏋 another catchy song that draws you into it𠏋 lyrics and music. 𤉋ow you𠆫e running around in your own mess cos you lied with the snakes naked and so shamed before god亘aecho 喰eR sOnG� is a song all girls live for. It𠏋 a song that questions the wonders of life. 飡 could bleed does it make me the same as her? I could show you things but I feel that you have seen it all before亘aecho Next is 𣁽LiMmEr MaN�. This song makes you wonder what is it Aimee or ourselves want at times? Catchy lyrics and up-beat music what more could you want. 飡 need a brand new glow I need a brand new glow I need a brand new glow亘aecho 飬iSs It BeTtEr� is one of those songs you could always relate yourself to. 𩾷here𠏋 nothing going on here not a thing at all go on and call me jaded it only makes me bitter and that𠏋 the way I like it cos i𠐔e got mine亘aecho 𤉋EmEsIs� is a song about destiny. It makes you think why does your nemesis sometimes screw you over, and at times it makes you happy. 鬭nd now upon my true love? is this only a? tale? the only? chance? she𠑥l let me wear亘aecho 騻iMe� is a song that makes you want to cry. This song is a song you could dedicate to anyone you are afraid to say something to. Then at the end it𠏋 beautiful when my babe EnO sings for us all. EnO is such a rock star! 𩾷ime waiting for you is it my secret one I should never tell i𠑥l never tell亘aecho Sorry, for this extremely long review! This is the first time I ever do a review on a cd that is so significant to me. If someone also would like to do a review, I encourage you to. Thanks Katie for inspiring me to do this review. Remember be careful what you wish for. -erika herrera black_morbid
-erika
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The Start opened up for Uncle Kracker and Sugar Ray during the MGD Army Concert Tour, at Ft. Bliss, Texas. Can I just say..... "WOW!" This was the first time I've seen or heard of the band and they just blew me away! Now, I can't get enough. Being in the music business myself, it's hard to make me say "WOW!" But, again, "WOW!" Great show, man! Keep knocking my socks off!
Lara <lcroft@ksii.com>
El Paso, TX USA -

it happened! it finally happened! im soooo sooo happy! we got 10 copies in at my store, i got mine at around 12:30am (we stayed open past midnight for new releases and EVERYONE bought nsync). Can anyone tell me the set list for the tour? ahh i can't wait!
natalie
yonkers, ny -

I found this review at unearthed.com thought you guys might like to read it. I've only seen a couple of reviews so far but they've been pretty good :) Without attitude or arrogance, and quite possibly without even knowing it, Aimee Echo has been the voice of a generation of hardworking, fearless women in rock that do not know the meaning of the word "quit". After fronting one of the most promising bands of 2000 (Human Waste Project), enduring the heartbreak of friend Lynn Strait's death, and then the untimely demise of HWP, and standing up to rumors about her relationship with former Snot drummer, Jamie Miller (who now plays guitar for theStart) - Aimee Echo and her band have wasted no time in picking up the pieces and starting anew. One of the most poignant and respectful moments for me was seeing Aimee after hearing about the break-up of Human Waste Project. There she was, at the Roxy on Sunset, as gracious and beautiful as one woman could be, looking each one of the club goers in the eye as we exited the club, passing paper flyers from her small, pale hand to ours, and telling us about her new project. "Please come and see my new band, theStart..." It was enough to make you internally weep. Her tiny frame, seeming frail and weary, her angular, angelic face humbled and hopeful, asking everyone to attend her next gig. She was battle ready, but she was gentle and sweet where many might have been defiant and bitter. Seeing this project emerge triumphant and strong, with a positive feel to the material and a colorful new face has made it seem that 2001's theStart have unabashedly picked up where the Missing Persons and Kim Wilde of the 1980's left off. There are so many reminiscent sounds on these tracks that they whisk you away to the days of plastic bras, fishnet gauntlets and rubber bracelets, but the songs remain solid instead of feeble, and genuine instead of cheesy. The new CD on the Geffen label is called Shakedown!, and it may go without saying that this collection of danceable beats and catchy lyrics will make you want to move with them. That truth is apparent when witnessing the live performances of these songs, and the crowd reaction to them. Clean, clear keyboard and synth-pop soars from the background blending well with the guitar and bass swells, and Aimee's undeniably endearing, sandpaper croon. Her voice is pure, and shattering on some tracks, and delightfully warm on others. Right off the bat, the listener is wide-awake with the aforementioned Kim Wilde-esque chorus of the title track, and immediately bounced into first gear. Track 2 brings you into `love story mode' with the pretty but rocking, sing-song qualities of "Gorgeous", but my personal favorite is the moody feel of "Communion". The lyrics come through with some element of darkness, and perhaps secretive subject matter. "If you could take me with you/ would you be delicate with me/This is my first time communion/ I cannot breathe or speak or see." Nice, right? This song left me wishing for others more like it. Be sure to play it loud. I also like "Melt" quite a bit, and a song called "Dirty Lion". In fact, it's difficult to choose which track is the most fun. There are plenty of goodies to indulge in on Shakedown!, and with 11 tracks to choose from, you'll want to hit the repeat button at least once or twice. Each track has potential for hit status on any radio station in the country that has a sense of taste and class. Whether the band gets airplay with Shakedown! or not, (and let's hope they do!) from the sounds of the truly amazing songs on this CD, Aimee Echo and theStart are not returning to their humble beginnings at "square one", not at all. Instead, the band have taken the progressive approach by grabbing the industry by the horns and taking it from the top. Right where they belong!
Infinite <infinite080@lycos.com>
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I had the best night last night.... not only did I see theSTART on the day their album was released, I went and got tattood with them to celebrate! Thank you very, very, very much to Aimee's mom, Aimee, Jamie, Jeff, and Scott.... you are all gorgeous to me! ;)
erik. <Xhyper-balladX@excite.com>
Marysville, WA US -

Yes, the lovely people at Alice's Records will post it to you on the day or order and for free - if you live in the UK! I look forward to receiving mine tomorrow! hurrah...
Fiona
London, UK -

Metal Malcolm:- I don't know about a UK release date but Amazon.co.uk had it in. And I got my copy from Alices Records. So go and buy it.
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
London, -

i'm listening to the cd nonstop now...it's like 3:30 am...i'm not tired of it yet and i can get enough of it...thestart is the best!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

8.99?? my best buy had them for 9.99. hmmm. emily> they had 2 new shirts on the tour. they were like 27 bucks though. i thought they were going to be 20. oh well. i hope they sell them at future shows. im dying for one!
Tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
Canyon Country, ca -

Are they selling merchandise on the tour??? They should have a section on the site that sells them. I would love to get a shirt or something. A hoodie will be extra awesome. The winter in coming in California. Freezing cold winter. With snow everywhere on Sunset Strp. hahe..
Emily
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My Wherehouse only got 3 copies! and I bought one today... But no one out here knows about you guys. CAMARILLO sucks!!! but I will play your cd in my store and see what happenes... Today was kindof a big day for NSYNC... that is all we sold all day long! haha!
carolin <carolinstatic@aol.com>
camarillo, ca -

the cd is $8.99 at the wherehouse. they had like 6 copies at my store..
Jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, ca -

Hey Hey-- you can tell where theSTART fans live- the record stores around their house no longer carry theSTART cd cause it is SOLD OUT! Some of the stores will look at you stupidly when you ask but push it cause they 99% have it in the back somewhere but they are just too stupid to find it-- but they found it finally last night at midNITE- anyone else go at the earliest possible time to buy it?
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca USofA -

This is like my favorite band now. I heard them on the Sugar Ray tour. You guys had the whole place up and around. Hopefully i can post more after i buy the CD.
Tim <bruiseboy@qwest.net>
Phoenix, az -

hey guys it was great hangin with you at the Warfeild saturday. anyways, it sucks not having money, after all i have been waiting for this album to come out for 2 years, or some strangle large number of years. im buying the cd damnit, even if i have to whore my sorry self. later guys, later human.
jon <daft_tyrant@yahoo.com>
danville, ca usa -

BEST BUY SUCKS!!! They didn't have Shakedown...The guy looked at me funny...Fuck Best Buy with their defected merchandise...Ha ha ha ha...God I felt embarassed holding a Britney Spears poster and home video today...
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -

hey hey i saw you guys at the Queen E theature last night which rocked!i thuoght u guys were just awsome i was the only on standing up in the seated area dancing at first!!!!!!!!haha it was great but u guys are just the best !thanx for a great show!danielle
danielle <hippiechick115@hotmail.com>
vancouver!, canada! -

this is the best cd released this year so far...i'll buy more copies of it once i get more money.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

HEY!!! go buy the album it's amazing. i've spent the last couple weeks wondering how well this record is going to sell. i think alot of the people who saw them with sugar ray will buy it as well as any one else who has heard some of their songs already. but unfortunately there's alot of people who have never heard them or heard of them that would probely really like it. so this is what i was thinking. maybe if we can all convince one friend to buy the record it would help a little. i've never seen a band so nice to their fans as theSTART. if we did this it could kinda be like a thank you to them. or at least we can try. i send all my love out to theSTART (you guys put the "alternitive" in alternitive rock) best of luck to you guys.
timothy <fiercecircle>
buena park, ca usa -

theSTART is the best! I'm so glad the fanbase is growing larger because of the sugar ray tour...hopefully the cd will debut well on the charts.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

July 23, 2001 Queen E, Vancouver I never heard of theStart until I saw them open for Sugar Ray (I am big fan of Sugar Ray but... only of the good old hard stuff!). I must say that I totally impressed by theStart. I loved their fresh sound. Plus I am crazy for almost any rock band that has a chick singer! And I have plans to buy the CD. If I can find it! When you tour again don't forget Vancouver!!!!!!! nicole
nicole <gtigirl@hotmail.com>
VANCOUVER, BC CANADA -

If anybody has a hard time getting the CD Sam Goody has it for $12.99. Support Enjoy the CD!! Wait.. is the video really on MTV?? ~Emily
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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*sigh* =*( I want the album too!!!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

A friend and i were at the Sierra Vista concert and it was awesome!! I bought the CD today and i just wanna say although this usually isnt my type of music, i LOVE it!!!! thanks for turning me around!!
Ryan 'Angelsboi' <Angelsboi21@hotmail.com>
Tucson, AZ USA -

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! today is that day!!!!!! congrats to thestart. :) xoxo
Jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
la, -

at Tower i bought the last copy of Shakedown...cool huh? theSTART deservies to be big, and they shall. LOVE and RESPECT to them, my babe eno looks so cute on the back. ahhh!
-erika
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I saw the start in concert and they were awsesome, so I had to purchase their CD Shakedown. I extremely recommend everyone to buy it.
michelle <earagon@utep.edu>
el paso, tx usa -

i bought the cd as promised (time to toss the burned copy, SEEEE I WAS GOOD) and even though i've heard it a zillion times and already sung along to it in the car several times, it was most refreshing today. loving the artwork. only a few more weeks until the live show... good work kids.
stefanie
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Well you lucky lucky people...Hope you all enjoy your lovely slabs of plastic joy. I guess us Brits will just have to wait.

By the way, has the label decided on a UK release date yet? :o(
Metal Malcolm
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alright kids. day has arrived. little over one year ago, on july 19th i posted here for the first time wondering why the hell the album wasn't out THEN. i'm listening to it right now and have, after much consideration in the thirty minutes since i've purchased it, decided it was well worth the wait, and i am inhaling this music right now like the breath of fresh air that i needed. i stopped posting about the album long ago, just resting assured that SOME day it would come out. thusly my posts have become more further removed from relating to the actual band themselves and moreover a braintrain expulsion everytime i came here to listen to the music on this site. and now here's the album. and they thank us in the liner notes, which to me is very considerate of them...what other band on this green earth treats their internet posting board like this one? fantastic. absolutely fantastic.
kt
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I was pickin up "Shakedown" today, and I was at the Virgin Megastore, and this girl in front of me is all buyin it, too! I was like, YESSSSSS! That's all.
Lex
Tustin, CA -

YAY! Good luck to the start! everyone better go out and support!!
Laura <xbailarinax@aol.com>
New Rochelle, ny usa -

HAPPY SHAKEDOWN DAY!!!! Damn, I have posted in a while, just decided to come in and say that...Man, a bunch of new faces ahhh scary...
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

Does someone have this on winmx, morpheus? Or on a spot on the internet? I'm really just looking for "Time". I went to CD warehouse, and they don't have it. If you have Time in mp3, please email me. mattbober@home.com Matt
Matt <mattbober@home.com>
Garland, TX USA -

how could he have seen it on mtv? i thought the heretics were gonna see it first online? and theprp says theSTART are confirmed for the family values tour. COOOL. Lots of theSTART.
punchy
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steven you saw it! lucky you! what time did you see it? how was it? i'm freaking out now...i have to see the video..is it anywhere online?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

I'm waiting for the Postman to come, I Pre-ordered the Album about a week ago. Can I see him at the top of my street? PS Hi HYP good to see your still around.
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
London, UK -

tiiight, i saw theSTART video on mtv today..awesome! wish i coulda made it out for the taping...
SteveN <defunkd1@aol.com>
san jose, ca usa -

"He's shot himself so many times in the foot he doesn't have any toes left"---Clint Van Zandt, Former FBI profiler on congressmen Gary Condit
kt
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One more day till 'ShAkEdOwN'.....can't wait!
-erika
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the album is finally tomorrow...yeah i can't wait! I haven't heard anything else except for gorgeous and glimmerman...this is the longest anticipation i've had for an album ever.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

I just finished a little tribute site to HWP. I know it's all in the past and all that, I just thought that maybe I could offer the members of the band a little more recognition than they were given. As for theSTART, it's the most excited I've been about music since Deftones last album. Aimee + gang, come to the UK soon! We're all waiting for you. Good luck.
Addzi <Addzi@btinternet.com>
Gloucester, United Kingdom -

alright somebody has to try this sometime. i did it yesterday four times and had a blast, except i had to stop because i almost got arrested the last time. if you ever feel even slightly compelled to somehow make an impact on several complete strangers' lives, here's how to go about doing that: drive around until you find a good, substantially busy intersection, and time it just right you you stop, first car in line, at the light when it turns red. upon turning green, turn your car off and wait a few seconds, until about third time or so somebody honks at you, and right when you have everybody's attention, flick your hazard lights on, throw open your door and run flailing from your car as if it were about to explode. it's best when three or four people all break from the car at once, all implicating in different ways some sort of impending catastrophe, like have the front passenger plug their ears while they run, and tell the back seat folk to run low and wide with their hands over their heads. don't actually make any gestures to any other drivers or pedestrians, just RUN. observe what happens when people take notice.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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theStart on mtv.com (the promotion is cool, but I hope this doesn't lead to TRL-kids at the shows): http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1445323/20010720/index.jhtml?headlines=true
Cindy
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i mean the incubus tour, sorry i'm not more clear. it's early.
stefanie
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hey, haven't posted here in a while... did my ticket make it to its final destination? also, i read that different bands would be opening on different legs of the tour... is it confirmed which leg theSTART will be on? this is probably posted somewhere but i'm really lazy. ah well.. less than a month to theSTART's nyc show...
stefanie
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hello, i think this is my first time on the speak out. i might be wrong. my name is tim and alot of you have probely met at some shows. anyways, i got to see theSTART in L.A. and in san diego and i was incredibly impressed with both shows. "Time" was amazing, as well as every other song. the san diego show was outside and interesting. it almost felt like a festival show. i didn't stay for sugar ray either night but i heard they put on a very entertaining show. i wanted say thank you to theSTART for everything their music and their friendship has done for me. you guys are my biggest inspiration. keep kicking ass on tour. side notes dan you rock thanks for everything all the techs on tour with theSTART you guys rock hi laura and lizzie i saw your message and i tried to e-mail you but it wouldn't let me send it so if you want you can e-mail me at fiercecircle@aol.com
timothy <fiercecircle>
buena park, ca usa -

Hello all! I know you have only been gone for two weks but I miss everyone . Come Home.hehe Im just kidding. Enjoy every minute of this tour because its the first of a long journey. I love you all. Lizzie
Lizzie <sorry lizzie no pony>
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Hehehe....I found it on Best Buy's site. I can't wait for Tuesday to go get it. It's only 9.99 too. I can't believe how many people like this band. Pre-order it at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/MandM/ProductInfo.asp?ST=11075344&m=254
F幯ix
Oklahoma City, OK -

im so so happy for/proud of you guys! love you much!
natalie
ny -

i mean states, and also countries
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yes the heritic board is expanding...to diffrent countries thank god.....we all love theSTART!
-erika
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I saw you guys at the "joint" in las vegas @ the hard rock. I loved you guys. Can't wait to buy your cd.
kendra <klownklein@hotmail.com>
hays, ks -

Hey wassup guys and gal? I just listened to "Gorgeous" here at work, it's totally sick!! I'm Louie, from ToeFinger5. You met our guitarist Darren at WalMart today. He was all "Dude, you'll never guess what just happened here at work!!!". hehe. Very cool though. I totally love your stuff, I'm gonna' go home and listen to more of it! Darren gave you our website address and stuff, so that's cool. The songs on that are kinda' old (January 2001), but we're in the middle of recording our new 15-track CD... Just finished up drum tracks (three days! hehe.), and are starting on guitars and stuff tonight. Well, just wanted to say hi and stuff, tell ya' i think you kick ass, and I hope to catch you on tour or something! I must return back to the world of Radio Shack hehe. Latas! Louie bassist/webmaster, ToeFinger5 www.toefinger5band.com www.down-pour.net
Louie <louie@toefinger5band.com>
Redding, CA USA -

woohoo...theSTART gonna tour with Incubus hot damn thats gonna be phat...my fav. band(incubus) touring with my fav. rockstar chickadee and her awesome band...gonna be off the heezy fo sheezy :) AimEE I need to snap a few more shots with ya haha..peacE
SteveN <defunkd1@aol.com>
San Jose, CA USA -

I can't wait to get the new cd. It is sad because I had to pre-order off the net to get it so I won't get it till later in the week. My town is 4 hours north of Minneapolis and people consider Target and K-Mart "music stores", ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Does anybody know if they are selling merchandise? I would love to get a shirt to wear around town. Peace everybody, I am off to work on my music for the umpteenth hour today.
Leo <orbitalgun76@hotmail.com>
Bemidji, MN USA -

So the cd is out this tuesday right? Because I've been waiting for this for a while. I love this group.
F幯ix
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I am soooooo excited about the new cd!!!!! aaaahhh.. this is crazy! They should have thos big display in the record store!!! yeah!!! I am tired of looking at the n'sync display days after days!!
Emily <emi32585>
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theSTART is wonderful......
erika
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already out for sale?!? we've been HAD!!!
kt
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The Puke Report is up on the News Page!
Lex
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hey, i just went to bestbuy today...and saw that they had 5 copies of shakedown already out for sale..for $9.99...interesting that was...i thought it came out on the 24th? peace will
will <xxjimmybrowskixx@aol.com>
pickerington, oh usa -

Hello, To everybody, and I would just like to say that The Start is absolutely fabulous. I saw them here at El Paso. I had already done my homework and checked them out on the net, so I got to hear some of the songs so I could sing along at the concert. I loved all the songs, and the band members are great. I hope you'all make it bigg!! God Bless, and Don't forget about El PASO!! LOve Ya, Shakira
Shakira <shaquinna16@hotmail.com>
El Paso, Tx USA -

bronagh - thanx! i'll always be around. hehe. i may not post or be heard, but i'm here.
i think i'm off to find another location for my site. envy.nu stinks like fish rotting in the sun. i hate it. so excuse the lack of updates. it doesn't like me - and i don't like it.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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ok thestart is most likely going to be on that artists against racism tour....they don't have tour dates up yet because more bands are being added...and there is going to lots of BIG acts on the tour...i can't wait!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
Costa Mesa, ca -

Finally you post something Katie! Great to hear from you.....so how is everyone today!
erika
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...probably should have read a bit further but I panicked when I saw that you got it too in case you opened it. Phew.
By the way, good to see you still about Hyp =)
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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KT! Don't open that Brian whatshisname file, it has a worm in it, I got it too and I did a scan on it. Weird.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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the show at the universal ampetheater rocked!!! the band was great during and after the show. its really great to know how well the music and the performance hold up in such a large venue. good-freakin-job!
P.S.i love memento. i've seen it many times.
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los anegeles, -

is anyone going to the roxy tonight? left alone is playing....they're a bad ass ska/punk band!
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everyone please do me a favor and go check these two sites out: www.vivamalpache.com and www.schizm.org thanks the bands will appreciate it a lot.....bye
-erika
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so, who all has seen MEMENTO? i've seen this fucking movie three times now. if you haven't seen it, go right now to www.otnemem.com and really wet your whistle. i've already SEEN the movie and the website still gives me the goosebumps.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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malcolm - no no no...not geri (even if she is a bit fit!) its a thing we say at work when it gets busy...its a kinda waltzers at blackpool pleasure beach thing! but i must admit i never liked the spice girls, but i do like some of the songs geri has released on her own ('specially the videos! heehee)

is the album being internationally released on the 24th? cos if it is WOOHOO!!! and amanda...i've not heard it either so you're not the only one!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

hey it's 3:25am, just came back from a great time of clubing! funny how some people will be getting started with there day pretty soon and i still havn't ended mine! this is the first time i got a wrist band, were talking about a 21er here LOL. yada yada yada. sleep tight people.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

date 7/20/01 **4 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!!**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca 91722 -

hey amanda...it's about time you come back.....e-mail me. bye
erika <black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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anyone know when their video is coming out?
vEnUs
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fading in existance. i figured it's time to come back here. awaiting the release of the cd as i seem to be one of the few who has not previewed the album in one form or another. there's only one copy on order for my local hmv - but i'll get some more ordered in. hehe.
going insane. miss some of the kids i used to talk to all the time on here like crazy.
hope everything is well with everyone. band, eno, human & all you lovely people i know from here. take care.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hey!! all my start stickers are GONE. i have passed them out and i think everyone who got a sticker will be there on the 24th to buy the album!
Laura <xBailarinax@aol.com>
New Rochelle, NY USA -

date 7/19/01 **5 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!!**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca 91722 -

Kurt Cobain may have been a prick and with goood reason, but HE NEVER KILLED HIMSELF!!! end of discusion-not thestart of one.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

I know Time is on the CD..it's the last song with Eno on it. Aww. But someone said sumfin about a secret song and I got confused lol :/
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
cottonwood, az -

anyone going to the open air theater/navy pier? here are the directions in case.....5 south-8 east exit college ave south...go straight...5500 campanilg dr. san diego ca 92128
super sadist
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ryan~ i found the directions, it's 116 miles away....i'm not going to make it, it's 5:20 right now....[cries with emotion]....let theSTART know that i love them dearly...time was a magnifacent song...lots of emotion. so my baby was being passed around, how wonderful...i love EnO and theSTART!
erika
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theSTART didn't play a secret song... TIME is on the cd. It sounded great live since they haven't done it at the other shows! I never loved them so much after hearing that it truly was a treat!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, -

theSTART played a secret song? akjshd FUCK HOW CAN I MISS THAT SHOW WHEN THEY PLAYED "Time"?!?!? That sooooo upsets me. *sniffles* I am gunna go hide under a rock now until theSTART vists me in AZ...
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

The Papa Roach post I did below wasn't meant to be an insult at all! I was pointing out how some bands are more road friendly than others. I meant nothing negative at all about them. I was simply pointing out how some bands stay on the road for so long working their CD. Coal Chamber did an amazing amount of time on the road for their first CD. I'm sorry if it came out wrong, but I was just pointing out something I noticed.
Lex
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when is the start's cd coming out!
they call me billiam
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The Start is awesome! New wave all the way. I recently discovered a band called Skunk Anansie who are from Britain. They sound awesome. Funk metal! Too bad they broke up...it seems like all the best bands break up! Jack Off Jill, Human Waste Project, Tura Satana, Hole (Did they REALLY break up? "Live Through This" and "Celebrity Skin" are awesome albums), Switchblade Symphony, Skunk Anansie, Fluffy (Former band of Amanda Rootes of Harlow--from VH-1 'Bands On The Run'), L7, Nirvana (Even though Kurt Cobain was a prick who had to kill himself, dammit), Psychotica, even Black Sabbath (Ozzfest Reunion baby!)! Oh well...what can you do. I hope to hear The Start on the radio in Cincinnati soon!
Mattel <useoncendstroy@aol.com>
Cincy, OH -

Someone mentioned Papa Roach down there (in a post below) a little bit ago...actually the remark almost was borderline insult about them touring for their CD "Infest". Anywho...did you know that Aimee Echo appears on that record? On the song "Dead Cell" she does background vocals. She sings on the song "Burgandy" on Coal Chamber's album "Chamber Music". Jack Off Jill thank The Start on the pamphlet for their album, "Clear Hearts Grey Flowers." Gee, Aimee, you've been busy! :)~
Matt <syckofitall@aol.com>
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from a "Brian Winkelman"? let's all hunt him down and cut his feet off.
kt
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i got that too! my brother said dont open it. just delete it. its probably just junk. everyone got it. how wacky.
tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
canyon country, ca -

i just got a very strange email from someone i dont know and don't believe i've ever met before asking me to give them advice on a file i have no idea how to open. what, my friends, do i do?
kt
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It was just by sheer luck that I found out that Aimee started a new band! The news on theSTART is pretty lame here. It sounds real good, I just wish there was more of a following in the UK. Good luck to all of you, and a big shout to all of the fans. Peace.
Addzi <Addzi@btinternet.com>
Gloucester, UK -

ryan...where were you during sugar ray?.....i waited :cries: ....theSTART fucking rocked so much ass...great show you guys. why was jeff pissed off though? ~*HuGs and KiSsEs*~
erika
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You're all invited to join UNEARTHED.COM at the following venues for DEADLESA'S ROCK N' ROLL BIRTHDAY WEEKEND!!!! Come and get crazy with us at the following venues all weekend long ... ----------------- Saturday, July 28th, 2001 Agrokulcher, Allergic, Capital 2, Killplot, Turn of the Screw Coconut Teaszer 8117 Sunset Blvd. W. Hollywood, CA USA Start Time: 8:00pm Ages: 18+ Cost: Check with the Venue Extras: GREAT TACOS AND QUESADILLAS and BEER SCHOONERS ON THE OPEN AIR PATIO! ----------------- Sunday, July 29th, 2001 Elemental, Face Down, Phunk Junkees, Zigg Alexander Whisky A Go-Go 8901 Sunset Blvd. W. Hollywood, CA USA Start Time: 8:00pm Ages: All Ages Cost: Check with the Venue -------------------- Monday, July 30th, 2001 Built Xl, Depswa, Leisure, Two Hit Creeper, Venus In Rage Troubadour (Doug Weston's) 9081 Santa Monica Blvd. W. Hollywood, CA USA Start Time: 8pm Ages: All Ages Cost: 21+ Free / 21- $3 EXTRAS: ***DeadLesa's Birthday*** --------------- SEE YOU THERE!
UnEarthed.com
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Hey, just wanted to let people know theSTART is being promoted in full effect here in Pittsburgh. Ive passed out stickers across the city and havent came across one untaken. I hope the people check out the album and the show when it comes around. I'll be the one getting everyone dancing in the front of the stage ;) ROCK!
Dave <VirgosSleep11@aol.com>
Verona, PA USA -

Wow you guys put on an amazing performance tonight! So much positive energy around the little heretic table- all the fans are so happy and friendly! So many positive faces hope everyone had a great time-- I think a high point in the night was when they played "Time" that song is so wonderful- good luck to your future shows and see ya when you come back!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

And hey, Geri is talented! She has some catchy tunes! I am totally not afraid to say I liked her last CD, and I like this new thing, too!
Alex
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wow thanks lex....i knew the show would be awesome...too bad i didn't get to go...man i wanna know what that secret song is!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
Costa Mesa, ca -

All I can say about tonight's show was wow. I left after they performed, but it SO ruled. They had a lil enter song thing, and tons of strobe lights. Anyone going to see them soon is not going to be dissapointed. Out of all the shows I have been to, prolly the best visually and best sounding. I am not gonna ruin the suprise, but they play a song that they never played at the lil shows. Awesome job, guys!
Lex
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I want to tell you guys that your gonna rock tomorrow and ill definitly be there to see it. i cant wait for you guys to open for incubus. Im looking forward to the puke report. LOve you guys!!
Elo
L.A, Ca -

hey is everyone doing their share of promotions?
maria
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I loved GERI! I was soooooo devistated when she left the group. All the energy and real "girl power" came from her! And I even loved her when she did her solo carrear! "Looooooooooooook at me" Aww Geri <3
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

Whereas I jumped for joy. I hated the spice girls at that time. Okay, I admit, now I can see the "Ironic" potential, and yes they were half decent pop songs, but really, they've gone even worse. Geri in particular makes me feel ill.

And kt, you scare me more than ever.
Metal Malcolm
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oh, Fiona, i remember that daay very well... i watched all the news hoping for a hoax-type of explanation, hoping that my entire universe wasn't completely shattered, but of course, it was true and i was crushed. while mention of the spice girls on this board is the first i've even thought of them in several years, i honestly don't think i ever fully recovered her leaving. you all might think this is funny, but i am very serious
kt
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Hey! I expect the so. cali heretics to come on here and give me a detailed report of the show! I want lights, stage design and wardrobe info PLEASE!!!! ;) thanks guys!
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KT you are the fountain of all Geri knowledge! Most impressive. Alas, the Spice Girls were never the same after her departure...
Fiona
London, UK -

ok my friends...confession time. when i was in junior high, i had a serious unrelenting bizarre and at times unhealthy obsession with the spice girls. i'm over it now, but i'll deomnstrate its severity: Geri Halliwell was born one of five children in Watford (outside London) on ausgust the sixth, 1972. Geri's mother is a cleaning lady from Spain, and her father died an unsuccessful English carsalesman when she was twenty-three. She spent time in Istanbul as a "price is right" style television show prize presenter-person, and at around that time she did her first nude modeling shots for a european page-five girl type of publication. i think this alone, as retained, applied knowledge, shows just how deep this obsession ran. i know i know, in hindsight it creeps me out, too. and you all know what? i honestly never really cared for their music.
kidneythief
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Oh my, i never thought i would see people quoting Geri on this board!!
Fiona
London, UK -

Jen, I hope you're not quoting Geri Halliwell on this hallowed board......
Metal Malcolm
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malcolm > that last post...well! 'ark at 'er! i'm going on the 15th august...but i don't now wehn i'm off to dublin cos i'm going to see my family in belcarra first so i'll let you know!

glad the band are enjoying themsleves! have fun and feel the breeze between your knees....scream if you wanna faster!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Can someone mail me "Time" in MP3 format? I can't wait any longer! I'm gonna buy the cd, but if you have it, could you just mail the MP3 to mattbober@home.com Thanx!
Matt Bober <mattbober@home.com>
Garland, TX USA -

hmm...all the rumors make theSTART seem so busy this fall. Aside from the incubus tour, i heard that they're also doing the artists against racism tour and family values. Jamie help us!
natalie
ny -

I love Aimee Echo!!!!!!!!
Aneal Ganta <Deft69Dumb@AOL.com>
Simsbury, CT USA -

I don't mean to be postin like a rabid fool here, but do you guys believe that Papa Roach are still touring in support of "Infest." They are workin that CD like Thanksgiving leftovers. Man, just interesting to me cause they have done like, 1.7 million tours for that CD, where NIN gets by with 1. lol.
Lex
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YAY! Just saw theSTART cd on CDnow. You can pre-purchase it. The cover it cooooool!!!!
Lex
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date 7/18/01 **6 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!!**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

See you all tomorrow! Well, today. Soon!!!
Alex
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ryan, your going tonight?......can't wait to see you, lex we should meet up and shop....ahhhhh! HUGS and KISSES
erika
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How is the tour going guys? Tired yet? How is the Sugar Ray backyard bbq setup working out? See ya tomorrow.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca -

Good seeing you in Las Vegas Scott! Sounds like the band has a great future! Aunt Gail and Uncle Mike
Gail and Mike Yadlosky <gailmikey@aol.com>
Canyon Country, Cal USA -

Okay, usually I don't miss Start shows, but this is the only one I'm gonna miss since I have to work :\ I'm pissed off that I have to work tomorrow and that I wanted to go to this, but then someone go to deftones with them, but then that person fucked me over...So, to everyone that's goin' tomorrow have lots fun...
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles , CA -

I WONDER WHICH TOUR ARE THEY GOING TO DO/
erika
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okay the link to the club is http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/artistsagainstracismtour....i'm a little confused though...is thestart going to be on the incubus tour? cause this thing is in october....so i'm not sure which tour they'll be in.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
Costa Mesa, ca -

LOL metal melcolm!! That's really funny......hey chris wassup?? Long time no talk, but i promise i'll call you.....oh and about that against racsicm tour, there is a yahoo club for it...and if you join it you get free merchanise and possible vip passes for the shows! hold on, lemme get the link...
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
Costa Mesa, ca -

the negativity that some people give is just so, fucked up;to use the correct word(s). fuck them....theSTART fucking rocks right. Jaime, i'll hang out with you when ever you guys want and i'm not a stupid bozo.....say hi to everyone for me, and nice comeback...good luck you guys. ~*LoVe*~ -erika
black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com
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Hmmm, well, let's see. Possibly his heightened intelligence means he is able to communicate telepathically? Or maybe just pathetically....

It just occured to me, maybe this board is being used as a meeting place for secret government agencies. It's all in Code. "Going to see Sugar Ray" means the operation will begin at 9:30, "You guys suck" must mean that night vision goggles are necessary, and "Paul Dooby" means "I am an illiterate bozo with the I.Q. of a particularly dumb table."...or maybe it's just me...
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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how come all the really smart, witty, cool people like paul dooby never leave their real names and city they're in so i can put them on the guest list and hang out with them and talk about sports or how much weight we can bench, or how much we hate chicks in general, rats, another missed chance to find a pen pal. oh well.
jamie
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hey linds dont feel bad im also looking forward to the nsync album too aswell as theSTART, well both be dancing all night tuesday, on another note, woo woo theSTART tommorow woo woo i cant wait...
anthony <xteenagedeathboy@aol.com>
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high there, everyone. sorry the report is taking a while, it'll be up this week. cant wait to be back in la tomorrow to see all the usual beautiful faces. the odd thing is i keep seeing some of you at these different venues. i think to myself "holy shit, is that actually one of the california kids out there?" just the usual tour hallucinations, i'm affraid. now i know there shouldnt be any problems but there's something all of you need to know. these past couple of shows have been completely amazing. i didnt think it was possible but you have some competition. the crowds have been insane, which means you guys have to be the most insane. we're talking pure institutionalization here. you may be thinking that this is no small task. the problem is that you are required, as the fans from the bands' home state, to rock harder than any other city for the rest of the tour. this might be difficult because of the popularity the band is gaining in so many other states. but, if all of you are as crazy as i think you are, this shouldn't be a problem. i wanna see posters and madness and dancing and everything else that you can possibly manage from beginning to end. from the first note to the last. the show starts at 7:15 (the earliest show on the tour) and doors are probably around 6. you're gonna hafta camp out or something to beat all the rabid prepubescent sugar ray girlies. tear gas works as well. rise up, see you there.
~sir puke~ <puke@angelabyss.com>
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You guys really suck and im going to the sugar ray show and im really sad that u guys are going.
paul dooby <pauldooby@hotmail.com>
shit, town -

sorry..forgot the email addy.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

wow...just one more week!! any of you heretics wanna meet up at the show in nyc (hammerstein ballroom) email me, we should definatly all shakedown.
natalie
ny -

date 7/17/01 **7 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!!**
maria
usa -

date 7/16/01 ***8 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!***
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

i think the bootyliuos song is good it will never get played outbill,bills,bills
shadae <shadae@mediaone.net>
Fresno, Ca United States -

I doubt it will be a festival thing..did u see the listing of the bands that are playing? I doubt many people have heard of them. 'Nuff said...and by the way ZAO SOLD OUT!!! ::swears profusely::
Chris
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let me START off by saying that you guys make beautiful music. i was wondering...when you guys come to L.A...do you think maybe you could squeeze in another show at the whisky??? Thank you for making music that makes me feel good. Love you guys!!!!
Elo
L.A, Ca -

when does this tour kick off ellen?
erika
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hmmmmmm...i wonder if its going to be a festival type-thing...a stadium thing...the cause is fantastic, but i don't like being one in twenty thousand! that's just no fun.
kt
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fuck details, let's have some DATES
kt
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Hey guys! Check this out! "The Artists Against Racism Tour will be starting early this October and will consist of the following bands Tokyo Storm Warning, The Start, LeFt, Adema, and many more since there are still bands being added to the lineup. This tour will help promote the awareness of just how big of an issue racism really is. The tour will not only be nationwide but worldwide as well. Many bands in the past have helped us when it comes to benifit concerts, but never have we ever had a tour like this in the history of the Artists Against Racism Foundation (www.artistsagainstracism.org) We're sure that this will be a great experience for everyone because the gigs will be taking place at big venues as well as small venues, colleges, and even a few highschools. This will be the biggest event of the year. "---Leslie Burkets (board member of the AAR foundation) in Up N Up Magazine
Ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

You guys totally rocked on Friday. I fell in Love with your music when I heard your first song. I loved the drumming and Ammie Echos voice is like non other I have heard before. I can't wait to by Shakedown that cd is going to Rock. Hope you guys comeback to El paso, Texas soon. Lots of Luv Mindy
Mindy <Bubblevicious@Kiwiwbox.com>
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Dayuuuum! I get a job and don't come to the Speakout for a few weeks and I see our friends have so many more fans! Yay! Just another week til the album comes out. On a side note, Zao plays the same day at Chain Reaction when "Shakedown" comes out. Heheh. Lex, I REALLY insist on you going to that show. Me and my friends will be there and I haven't seen you in ever so long. Jeff and Fern miss you. And you can meet my future boytoy, Colin. HE'S NOT A NERD!! Mmm....ever so sorry I can't see the show in LA this week, but Deftones are playing the same nite in Irvine. And oh yeah, I got FLOOR seats to see Pantera and Slayer the next day in Long Beach! ::throws the horns up:: Heavy metal styleeee.I am forever in love with Aldo for getting me those tickets. Just to let ya know I'm representing for the Heretics at my job (Forever 21, it's a trendy chick's store). I wear a tie to work and all the customers think it's so cool and ask where in the store it is. Hehe. OH YEAH! I was reading an issue of Skratch magazine it's a few weeks old. There's an interview with Aimee in it (spelled AMY in the mag) and the idiot writer asked if HWP was an influence on them. And the person didn't even know Aimee was the singer of HWP! Jesus,man! Do your research before asking a dumbass question like that. It's writers like that that give me hope to be a music journalist. If I get some time I'll type it out it isn't that long.By the way, my homies going to the show (Lex, Ellen, Erika) at Univ. Amp lemme know...I wanna get a START shirt. I want one of you fools to get me one and I'll hit ya up with some kiznash for it. Email me or something. lata peeps!!
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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date 7/15/01 **9 DAYS TILL SHAKEDOWN!!**
sparks
USA -

i can't wait to see what's gonna be on the insert to SHAKEDOWN! what pics and stuff, we should do a count down for the album
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

Ahhhh yes, yes. The SHAKEDOWN! comes out the 24th!!! THAT'S NEXT TUESDAY! I have been waiting forEVER for this CD. I mean I know all the songs by heart already, I just want to actually HAVE the CD lol. Also the 24th (god I know I am going to fucking get tortured for this) the new *NSync comes out! Wooo I'm gunna be dancin' all night long next Tuesday!
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

well what can i say - but that you totally blew my mind on friday night. I went to see Sugar Ray and Uncle Kracker and became a find og y'all. oh did i say y'all.i love your energy and peformance Aimee Echo's voice is amazing and everything, Shakedown is so cool.To bad there was ot that many people jumping around oh well you still kicked some major booty. i know what other cd i'm buying July 24-the Start and Simon Says.well peace out keep rockin
Vicky <silverchick_4ever@yahoo.com>
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when will we see more TOURDATES
*cough*
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jkahdwjkash YOU GUYS GOT SOME NEW FANS IN AZ!! Thank GOD. I may just run into a few people that love you guys now..and make some new friends!! lol. Aww I can't go to your show tonight in Phoenix :( seriously I am sooooo sad. But I just don't have the money right now...OR a ride. I am saving up to go out to Cali for a few days in August. Soooo...*sigh* I guess I will have to miss you on your first tour. Makes me sad. Cause you know I wouldn't miss one of your shows for anything. Just know that if I was there I'd be irght up front singing and dancing...and I'd be singing with you to "Gorgeous" or "Nemesis" like old times lol lol aww. Like at the Whiskey shows and stuff. <3 you guys. You're amazing.
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

puke where are the comments on the shows>>>>>>thanks*
erika
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yikes i meant HEARD.... herd?!
Angela
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FINALLY i got SHAKEDOWN!!!!! I can't say in words how AWESOME this album is! I didn't really know what to expect since i'm a crazy HWP fan. As soon as i herd Hero- then theStart i was a fan but this album is FANTASTIC! Now i just have to wait for you guys to come back home! It sounds like things are good, Have Fun!!! *Spiders&Stars*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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Holy Shit! A RULE! Made me grin anyway. Somehow I cant imagine A and Bloodhound gang members doing a DJ Shadow style record, but then I couldn't imagine Therapy? covering DJ shadow until I heard it, and that ruled too..

Great comeback Jamie. Hope the tour is going well. Can't wait for the Puke Reports...Oh, and although there's nothing there yet, that's my new website above, incase any of you wanna change bookmarks or anything..
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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I went to your show last night at Libby Army Airfield on Fort Huachuca with Uncle Kracker and Sugar Ray. Everyone in Sierra Vista had a preconcieved notion on how you guys were going to be, and I am ashamed to say to I was one of them. But, last night you won hundreds of new fans. For it to be your first tour, it didn't seem like it. You guys but on one hell of a show. You guys were awesome! Someday soon I don't doubt you guys will be headlinning your own big tour. I would definitley go see you. However their is also a little matter to deal with and that I am very pissed at the way my fellow Seirra Vistans treated you guys. You guys are a whole hell of a lot better than they gave you credit for. Most of them wouldn't know go music if it killed them. You already have two new people that are going to buy you album when it's out on July 24th from last night. You guys will make it, your awesome!
Bryan Townsend <bryanmatthewtownsend@hotmail.com>
Sierra Vista , AZ United States -

Aimee I play in a band from the UK called "A". I have just got a side project together with some friends from a band called "Understand" and "Bloodhound Gang". Its called "The Lucky Nine". Its somewhere between Nation of Ulysses, Dj Shadow, Quicksand, Refused blah blah blah. You'd like it. I would really like it if you would put some vocals to one of the songs... I'm not too keen to leave an email address so I'll figure out how to get in touch soon. Have a think about it and I'll send you a CD. Its only demos but we record in a few months... Um I'll get in touch soon. Daniel
Daniel P. Carter
London, -

wow...WOW...hwp were amazing...and the start rock my socks! hehe...wow...i really hope you huys come and play in England.......xxx
annie <goddess666_@hotmail.com>
wolverhampton, west midlands england -

wow....WOW. Hwp were amazing, and thestart rocks my socks!! hehe...wow, i really hopw u guys come and play in england.....
Annie <Goddess666_@hotmail.com>
Wolverhampton, West Mids England -

last night, my friends, i made a phenomenal discovery that i wish to share with you all; first you will need generous portions of all of the following items: an entire bag of oreo cookies, two quarts of WHOLE dutch chocolate milk, a bag of butterscotch chips, a stick of butter, aunt jemimah's maple syrup, hershey's chocolate syrup, a few bags of almond M&M's, a fist-sized gob of peanut butter, a few colors of food-dye, a whole cylinder of pillsbury chocolate chip cookie dough, and a bag of marshmallows. Take liberal helpings of all the items listed above and place into a large bowl. Mash and churn with a spatula to a finely textured paste, then serve over waffles or pancakes. or waffles AND pancakes. but whatever you do, DO NOT use an egg-beater in the mashing process. this might very well send you hurling through to a whole other dimension.
kt
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Hey all, anyone know when the video is going to hit MTV? I can't wait to see it. I've heard the sounds, now I need to see the spectacle! Not long til the CD's out too. Aaargh
Buzz <buzz_lifescreen@hotmail.com>
Barnsley, Yorks. UK -

Can you believe I put that I lived in CA in my ealier post? Ahh wishful thinking I suppose...lol. My mistake.
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

linds~i so agree with you.....we shall always be there in heart and soul no matter what, cause we were all there from theSTART.... jaime~how are you, including everyone else...great comeback on the dan comment....evolution man!!!
erika
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Right on Jamie. You're the man, yo! So tomorrow is your show over here in AZ. I know I said I'd go no matter what...but I have no one to go with! Fuck I wish I still lived in Cali so I could go to the Amphitheater show with all my other friends. Well, I am going to talk to my daddy and see if he'll take me to Phoenix to see you guys. Cause you know the whole time I was in Cali, I NEVER missed one of your shows. Ever. Whether or not I attend the show tomorrow, I know you guys will amaze everyone with your outstanding sound and energy you put out there. I will always support you guys. Always remember that I will always be one of your biggest fans...cause I was there from theSTART. :)
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, Ca -

You show at biggs field was hella awsome! I was there in the center about five rows back..i was probably the only person dancin to your slammin tunes...yall so have to coem back!
Gary Bemont <g_bemont@yahoo.com>
El Paso, Tx USA -

I just saw you guys here in El Paso last night! You guys were completely awesome. I'm just sorry the crowd didn't get more into your music. I was on the right side of the stage about 3 rows from the front and it was pissing me off that everyone was just standing there when you guys produce so much enegy in your music. Anyway, you guys are awesome. My fiance and I are for sure going to get your CD when it comes out the 24th! Rock on, and come back and visit El Paso soon!!!
Jennifer <ND_saturn@hotmail.com>
El Paso, TX USA -

Yeah right on I bet Dan likes Saliva
BOB
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it's called growing up and evolving, being true to yourself, but thanks for trying dan.actually, selling out would be starting a "heavy" band right now, silly.
jamie
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COME TO FRANCE !! PLEAAAAASE !!!
zouilirth <zouilirth@wanadoo.fr>
corbeil, france -

anyone here ever read this book 'YEATS IS DEAD!'?
kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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Hello you lot! Thought i would say 'hi' to you all as i have not posted here for quite some time now... Im in an internet cafe at the moment (Im visiting my Grandma who lives here) and im REALLY BORED!!! Cool to see that the tour is going well. ttfn, Fiona x
Fiona
Glasgow, Scotland -

Hey everyone...long time no see. Erika - i love bratmobile! I got the promo of shakedown! from work yesterday , i was thrilled. it was the first time i heard MELT. i hope all is going well with the tour.
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
ny -

"I say create, my friends create ... Without dark - no light."-amiee echo. well i've hit a deep hole in my life and feel very empty, not knowing what to think or do. these words will help me start moving again... thanks ms. echo. **i hope the stars are glowing bright over you**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

i'm curious as to how many people have ventured onto the pics page recently... there's pics up from the video shoot! =P
fookinfairy
CA -

just a little tid bit. i was watching making the band (yes o-town) and when they were in l.a. they showed parts of hollywood, one being the whisky, the marquee read "suicidal tendencies and human waste project" i was like awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!! i thought that was pretty random.. anyway. i hope the tour is going great. can't for a home show :) xoxo
Jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
los angeles, -

Threefold buddy....just remember that.....threefold....
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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you guys are ok......but let me tell you, Human Waste Project, WAY BETTER!! I don't want to say sellouts but hey you cant make money being heavy. oh well, listen to HWP if you want aimee in a good band.
Dan
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Hey Start!! I saw you guys a couple dayz ago... third row... you guyz and gal rock... the best of luck to yall in the future.
H. C. C. <halliecochran@hotmail.com>
Huntsville, Tx USA -

I went to tha show in Houston tx, JUST for thestart and my 3 friends and i promoted there for them, it was so fun and awesome. i loved chilling w/ the band, and i really appreciated the fact that they were all so sweet and chill.
LinkinparkPrincess <linkinpark_princess@yahoo.com>
gonzales, TX Usa -

I saw The Start the other day @ the Bronco Bowl. They were great, I really liked, "Time". If anyone has that on MP3 could you email it to mattbober@home.com . Matt PS> If you went to that show, you saw me onstage. I was the guy who sang, "Rollin'" after spinning the big wheel. You can see pics of it at http://www.geocities.com/mattbober
Matt Bober <mattbober@home.com>
Garland, TX USA -

there are rivers of cholesterol and tense thinking right now, all flowing between those tiny little cubic grains of salt that encrust these wonderful little bite-sized snacks called cheeze-its. i love them. occasionally my keyboard gets so clogged with crumbs of cheez-its, funyons, french fries, chili-cheese fritoes, soure cream and onion lays, and gobs of sticky chocolate syrup that i have to unplug the thing, take it out to the garage, and pluck every single key out one by one, and clean them all off with muriatic swimming pool cleaner. that usually does the trick. i have to scrape out the inside of the plastic console with a screwdriver and a really-nasty looking rusted file, but it really doesn't seem to do any harm. all the numbers letters have disappeared from the keys on account of the muriatic acid treatment, so i have had to reapply them in ball-point pen and marker. it seems to be working quite well though, so far. i would also like to tell you all that for the first time in eight years yeasterday i had a tall glass of whole milk. my dear, dear mother has, out of simple habit, bought skim for the latter half of my life. i don't know why, we're certainly not healthnuts or anything...but let me tell you what: if two days ago you gave me a glass of whole chocolate milk, my friends, and told me it was some sort of exotic persuasion of creamy french dessert...i, quite frankly, wouldn't have known the difference. i'm off to work now. my fingers hurt from keeping them crossed for the previous month's worth of drives there. the boss is going out of town, however, in the coming weeks...hopefully this will help with these damn involuntary pacing fits.
kt
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any of you ever heard of Bratmobile? I really like the stage presence of the singer....she reminds me of our miss echo.....you should check them out, they're playing the trub. on saturday, july 14.....
erika
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nice accent aimee....how is my babe eno?...take care and hope to see you all soon!... ~*theSTART rocks!*~
erika
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oh, you foreign folk and the HEAT! only texas people can handle this heat. i love it. 5 days here should turn those soft pink los angeles hides to rough leather. there is a man just down the highway, for instance. he's a jerky salesman. he parks his bronco on this empty feed lot every morning at the crack of dawn and sits out there until twilight selling all kindsa jerky imaginable. i've never seen this guy up close, but everyone calls him "Red" for some reason.
kidneythief
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Kind words Miss Echo. Now, living in L.A. doesn't seem so bad.Can't wait till the new album.bye, bye.
The Professor <DIGITAL_BOY_7478@hotmail.com>
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nice to read your words again ms echo :) hope all is going well in the world.. hey (((malcolm)))
luxy
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I LOVE WHAT I HEAR! THE START'S CD "SHAKE DOWN" IS SO COOL. WHEN WILL THE START COME TO OMAHA, NE? I SAW H.W.P. A FEW YEARS AGO WITH SEVENDUST AND SNOT. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE AND HEAR YOU ALL LIVE!
TODD-O
Omaha, NE USA -

Aaawww it was nice hearing from you Echo!!! Miss you guys lots!!!
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA -

Hi Y'all. We've been in Texas for five days now and I am picking up an accent. The first show was a bit glitchy technical difficulty and whatnot. To be expected first show after a two month break. We were pleased. Show 2 felt very very nice and we should be just aproaching proper form. When in El Paso one must eat at La Nortena. Best Mexican food in these United States. It is hot here in TX, very hot. I have begun to question the sanity of those who dwell in these parts for putting up with the temperatures! Exceptof course KT for whom the heat is simply a propellent for his genius. (kisses to you KT darling, you brighten my days) Now we must all remember this place is like no other, realistically, perhaps in shape and form but never content. All are welcome here, all welcome. When new people arrive know that our circle is simply widening. As for the bickering of late, I say create, my friends create that's what this place is for. Without dark - no light. For now my friends goodnight. love to you all.
Echo
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malcom? you're allllllright, man. you're allllllright.
kt
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kt - Relax man, I had similar worries for a while. You'll be fine. Nothing's gonna happen.

Jen, when are you going to ireland? I could do with a holiday, and a UK Start meet up could be interesting.... :)
Metal Malcolm
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there is this sort of...odd, inexplicable paranoia that has solidified within my gut. i am deathly afraid of going into work every day now. i'm doing ok, i guess...i'm not stealing, i'm not embezzling, i'm not doing drugs ON the job...i can't explain it. i can;t face my boss without getting extremely red in the face with anxiety. i pace for two hours or so every day wondering "is the sheriff going to be there waiting for me today?"...see, back when i was rather liberal with the cash drawer and didn't see the point in paying for any of the snacks or drinks we have in stock, i would get caught and the last thing said on the matter was a vague threat about havin' ole Sheriff Tovar waiting for me when i showed up he next time. my friends, i love my job, it's very important to me. but i dont know how to get rid of this irrational phobia of being arrested for erasing friends' late charges. i don't even do THAT anymore, but for some reason, this thick choking conceern will not removee itself from my stomach no matter how hard i try. one and a half hours to go............*sigh*
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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hello all. i was wondering if anyone has recieved anything for the street team for theSTART. im very anxious to promote, esp. the chicago show cos im pretty sure most of the audience will contain little girls hoping to touch mark mcgrath boy, so im hoping to get sum people realizing the wonderfulness of what is theSTART. any info? please e mail me or respond. thanx.
stefanie raYna <raynarain@aol.com>
chicago, il usa -

Ohhh look at all the new people! They're like...flocking here. They all loved theSTART on the Sugar Ray tour!!! How amazing! You're doin great, guys. Keep it up. You're getting a whole new following. This is what you guys wanted, and it's great! I'm so happy for ya!
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Cottonwood, AZ -

i saw you tonight at the Sugar ray concert in Houston and you guys ruled, i cant wait until July 24th. I told all my friends about you over E-mail.I think you were way better than Uncle Kracker. I'm going back to your next concert.Thanks for coming to Houston, hope to see you again soon.
Lee Searcy <searcypohi@yahoo.com>
ponca city, OK U.S. -

I just gotta say you kick so much ass!! Echo, major props for what you're doing...i wish i had the nerve to try and make it with my girly little band. I can't wait to get the cd! And to think i was so sure the opening band was gonna suck. Thanks for coming to play for all us jerks in houston...and thanks for being so nice after the show! *I huggeg Echo!* MUCH LOVE...
Ann Plasma <annplasma@hotmail.com>
Houston, Tx USA -

OMG you guys kick so much a$$, i saw ya in dallas (with sugarray) ya blew my mind, and took me on rollercoaster of emotion, and i loved the loopty loops. ne who, echo youre so gorgous wanna go on a date sometime
sean "big dog" <coolbass17@hotmail.com>
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kt - you're welcome! jen jen - I'm Irish, I drink anything going! ;-) We can go to crappy metal bars, it'll be great! :-D
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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I love you all...
Fray <Ebow316@aol.com>
UK -

I work at Sam goody. Yesturday I was checking if we are going to have Shakedown. guess what!! It is not listed as one of the new release. Ugh!!! I can't wait to get the CD. Oh.. cool.. my mummy and I are in the picture! Awesome... I can't wait to let her see the site. hahaha...
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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lex - yeah i heard of dirty harry. kinda crap though! they're nowt fantastic but thats just me!
bronagh - i'm coming back to ireland next month so what do you drink? and HMV haven't even heard of shakedown so thats a good start huh?

why the talk of backstreet boys...its not good for anyone!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

awesome story kt.........thanks
erika
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I saw you guys last night at the Bronco Bowl! I loved your sound. I don't think the crowd was right for your music though because most of them were just 13 year old girls who wanted to touch Mark McGrath. (which by the way was a little annoying) Oh well, I can't wait to but the album! You have my support! GO FAR!
Marinda <Volley555@aol.com>
Arlington, TX USA -

Jimmy Rubsam, Showstoppers Video store customer #6791, is not actually named Jimmy Rubsam, nor is his customer number really 6791: 㜁ell, I know you𠆫e pretty trustworthy, but seriously man, don㦙 tell anybody this, ok? I𠍿 serious now�nobody else knows about this shit�You remember when ole Dunlap𠏋 place got jacked up for that two and a half grand and then he got shot in the head? Remember that? Yeah, well it was all bullshit. The 𩾷wo armed robbers�? Everything you probably heard about it, the story in the papers and on the news, its all bullshit. You wanna know what really happened? You𠆫e not gonna tell anybody are you? Yeah yeah, I know, you𠆫e cool that way�well, here𠏋 the real story: 㛝ou know ole Dunlap𠏋 owned that liquor store for like�45 fuckin years, right? Well, the old man opened the place hoping to make a fortune seeing how Hays county is dry by law, and he built it right on the county line down there on �12. He was bettin all his money that once he opened the joint he鏆 tap into an unforseen demand that had gone unsupplied for however long this town𠏋 been out here. Unfortunately, that didn㦙 happen. 孏he plain fact of it is that nobody around here really drinks except for three days out of the year, and the old man ended up getting stuck with the place for the better half of this century. Yeah, well ole Dunlap had had his share of money troubles over that period of time but in the past couple of years it was all coming to a head for him. See, ole Dunlap didn㦙 have any family, and he had more enemies than friends on account of his constant debt, so supposedly he would resort to illegimate methods, if you know what I mean, to try and pay them all off. Gambling mostly. That shit put him in even deeper, and so he had only one choice left. 𨯗bout a year and a half ago I was doin� some commission work painting interiors. Ole Dunlap hired me for a three week job doin� the inside of his store. It was the first time I had any clients ever request the most hazardous kinds of paint to be applied indoors, as far as flammambility goes, but hey, you know, money is money and I didn㦙 ask questions. 幈ver those three weeks I got to know ole Dunlap pretty well. Well, not exactly his whole personal history or anything, but I got a pretty good handle on the way he was. He drank a lot, you know. Oh yeah, the old bastard was pushing, what? Seventy-eight? Seventy-nine years old? Oh, ninety-two? He was ninety-two, really? Damn. Shit man, I missed his obituary and I turned off the news every time the story came on cause I knew it was bullshit. I just never bothered asking him. I knew he was old, but ninety-two? Jesus. 㜁ell, anyway, the old man didn㦙 have that sharp𠿟 memory. In fact, he barely recognized me every time I showed up. I never thought anything of it, I mean all it took was a couple of seconds and he would snap out of his haze and remember who I was. We got to talkin� right around my fourth day on or so, and he started to let me in on his situation. He had lost his liquor license fourteen years earlier but, somehow, no one ever seemed to be bothered to go out and enforce his old ass. Bookies were driving out into the bush to hassle him about once a month, and he never had enough cash to pay them all off. He had already taken out so many loans his credit history had been run right into the ground. 𡤃ntil the third week I worked on into the evening painting and talking with him, until the power got shut off. After that he could only afford to turn a few of the lights on during the day, but by twilight the store was pitch-dark inside. 幈n my last day of working, ole Dunlap didn㦙 have 𩾷he cash to pay me�, so he paid me in ten free fifths of Jack Daniels. We shared the first two that night and during that he propositioned me to burn his store down. No, seriously! He offered me two and a half grand to burn his store to the fuckin� ground. He said he was going to collect some sort of really fat insurance on the place�and I really don㦙 think he was planning to ever re-open the store. With that insurance money, he told me, he could pay off his all his debt, and find some place to live down in Eagle Pass or some other shit border town. He was on his way out, but I don㦙 think he even knew it. If he did know it, he just didn㦙 want the bookies or the law to get to him first. 廍o I was so drunk off my ass I told him I鏆 do it. He said he鏆 give me twenty-five hundred bucks right on the spot, which I graciously accepted. It was his life-savings. He kept all this cash in his safe; the old man forgot the combination some while back so he said that if I could help him break it open I could take the two and a half large that had been stuck inside for almost as long as he鏆 had it, and that would be my fee for the job. 𨧻t was a cheap model; all it took was a few good wacks with my tire iron and the thing cracked right open. He gave me the cash and told me to come back in exactly one month and set fire to the place. That𠏋 right around when I realized why, in a spur of the moment change-of-mind on my second day, he had me start to apply the kind of paint that would burn really easily. 𨧻 went home that night pretty mixed up about the whole thing. Exactly one month later I figured what the hell? I hadn㦙 seen him at all that month but I thought that was probably for the better, as far as suspicions among anybody else were concerned. I figured the best way to start the fire was with a molotv cocktail on the floor closest to the flammable-paint walls; as with the place selling liquor and all, a fire starting from just another bottle would be harder to spot with any investigation into the cause. 𨧻 made one out of a leftover bottle of Jose Cuervo and went out to the store at about three in the morning. The door was unlocked, which I figured was a commonplace instance what with the old man living in the small house next door and all. It was pitch black inside, and when I was feeling my way around, I knocked some rack over and made a loud racket. I didn㦙 really think much of that. I expected the old man to be waiting for me there, to maybe help or something, but from the looks of it he was probably asleep in his house. Again, I thought that this was for the better, and would make for a truly convincing situation to the police or firefighters or�whoever showed up first. 𠐓y the time I got to the back of the store where the walls were that had the three or four coats of the paint, I flicked on my lighter to light the cocktail and saw that the rag and fallen out somewhere. I fumbled around and flicked my lighter again, like around on the floor to see, but couldn㦙 find it anywhere. When I got back to the walls where I was going to set the fire, I heard a loud noise behind me, and suddenly a bright flashlight shined right into my face from like ten feet away. It was ole Dunlap, and he started yellin and screamin about me trying to steal his beer. It dawned on me right then that he didn㦙 have the slightest clue who I was. Before I could remind him, he pointed his big fuckin 30 ought-6 right at me and pulled the trigger. In the next second, I heard three distinct sounds. 廍ee anything? Fuck no. I hit the floor like a little bitch. I heard the crack of the rifle, the impact of the bullet against the wall behind me, and then a muffled plopping noise as he fell to the ground. 鐈is fucking bullet ricocheted off the wall, bounced right back and popped him in the head. I ran over to him and picked up the rifle. He didn㦙 look like he was breathing. I was so fucking scared out of my wits, right? I was so scared that I ran right out of there like a flailing schoolgirl. I drove home and the next morning I hear on the news that ole Dunlap was alive, but he was drifting in and out of a coma and not expected to last that long. 𠐓efore he did croak a couple of days later, he ended up telling the police that two men in white t-shirts and blue jeans robbed him. See, this is how it went down: the police found my prints all over the place, and the broken safe without the cash from some weeks before when the whole thing was started. I was so shaken by the whole thing I never put his rifle down. Fuckin� ended up taking it home, so they never found the 鮎urder weapon� and they had no fuckin clue it was his. Still have the damn thing. 鏠ops think someone robbed and murdered the old man, plain and simple. I know now that over the course of that month he completely forgot about our agreement, and that his story to the police was sincere. He honestly thought I was trying to rob him. He was drunk, of course, which explains why he told the cops there were two perps dressed exactly alike; the old bastard was seeing doubles. 孏here. That, man, is what really happened to ole Dunlap. Robbed? Yeah, my ass. That old bastard paid me to burn his place down, but forgot and instead accidently shot himself to death. I know it sounds crazy, but that𠏋 really what fuckin happened, man. Craziest fuckin� thing, man. Craziest thing that ever happened to me, anyway. Shit�now, please assure me again you won㦙 ever tell anybody about this�please?� �I cannot divulge the particulars of 鎽immy Rubsam� as a customer; such details would be incriminating to him and could potentially land him into a whole heap of trouble with the Hays Co. Sheriff𠏋 Dept. 鎽immy Rubsam� gets two free rentals every Thursday for telling me this.
kt
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Kt~ you haven't written a story in a while....why? Please do write one they are very fascinating.... who has seen theSTART?...on their new tour...please do post!!!!
erika
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hey everyone, i have a few promo stickers left over, so if you want one, visit Wherehouse Music on lemmon ave in dallas. There are only a few left so get yours!!
~eeeevil~
dallas, tx -

Ive been a Human Waste Project fan for quite awhile and im glad to see that The Start will be coming out with their debut soon. anyone that knows about Aimee Echo knows that she is an amazing woman and very talented. Ill be there when she plays at Salt Lake. Cant wait for july 24th either.
tyler durden <anarkisst@hotmail.com>
Layton, ut usa -

Hey Texas people- glad you like theSTART-- don't forget they are playing the bronco bowl tomorrow!! Good luck guys!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca USA -

hey I heard yall today on the edge with jesse, you guys rock!!!
Gabe <grimmy366@hotmail.com>
Ft. Worth, Tx usa -

just wait and watch all the new kids come through and post on here with each city the band hits on this tour. they are going to get bigger than i think they even realize.
kidneythief
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bronagh---THANK YOU!
kt
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YOU GUYS ROCK THE HOUSE. THE SONG GORGEOUS IS FANTASTIC
RYAN
DALLAS, TX USA -

Anybody in or around the UK ever heard of the group "Dirty Harry." I just read about them in Kerrang!, but I can't find ANYTHING on them. Anything would be appreciated...how they sound, etc.
Lex
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In case anyone missed my review of SHAKEDOWN! - just paste this url into your browser and enjoy! --- http://www.unearthed.com/reviews/review_r_0142.shtml --- :) And to those of you who have written to me with your feelings and nice words about this review - BIG THANK YOUS! You are all VERY sweet. You are all welcome to join my Yahoo! club at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/deadlesasunearthedclub - Would LOVE to have you there, and you can post pictures, too! FUN! Good luck to the band... All the best. - xoxo - Lesa
^*^ Dead Lesa ^*^ <lesa@unearthed.com>
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Alright, I am not using a name because I don't want to get harrassed for this comment. BUT! Has anyone realized that to the people who like BSB and NSYNC, their music does have substance...it just doesn't appeal to everyone. Just like KT mentioned LB...to a lot of kids, that music does have substance, as well, it just doesn't fit everyone. But I will give KT credit because he made many good points. How about we drop this?
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Sorry to sound like a broken record, but does anyone know when the album is getting a UK/European release? I asked in Tower today and they hadn't any idea...bah.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Ahem, I think kt was pleased about a possible downhill for the Backstreet Boys, not because somebody is depressed or whatever...easy, tigers. I think acceptance of the tripe that they call music is a bad thing anyhow. It's so defeatist. If more people decided to start playing or writing music that actually meant something, maybe more people would listen to them as opposed to mindless drivel...ok, I'm off on a tangent! Hehe.
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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Kt~ we aren't trying to pick on you but it may come off as that, i was just trying to show the diffrent views on this situiation, bsb thing. other people may ask what is so great about theSTART?...everyone is intitled to THEIR own opinion but let us not wish/hope for a brake-up of something that others love. may everyone be happy in someway-or-another....... -erika
erika
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Wow. I've just been introduced to the magic of theSTART, and I have a feeling it may change my life a bit. Hey Nicole and Kallie!! Can't get Gorgeous or Shakedown outta my head! Gotta be a good thing. Please come play in Britain... we do like some good music you know!?! NEone who fancies it can check out my band Nerve Engine who are building a name in England right now - heavy melodic metal with an epic feel.... http://www.nerveengine.com
Buzz <mark@nerveengine.com>
Barnsley, Yorks. UK -

my god how embarrassing.
kidneythief
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ok...Monolith? please omit that d-word from your vocabulary if youre addressing me. i've had a few rotten run-ins with that word and i'm afraid of it now. i implore you. but you hit the nail on the proverbial head. and um...i am NOT KATIE. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
kidneythief
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I hate to jump in the drama...but it seems as though KT is getting misunderstood and picked on....she wasn't saying it was a good thing that AJ or JR or JC or whoever it is has a drinking problem...she was just saying that the BSB's music is empty and has no real meaning...and as far as the music aspect of that group is concerned...the less music that they make...the better....am I right?
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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What's up fellow Heretics!!!!! Down here in Dallas...I just got to hear theStart on the EDGE and I recorded it.... (of course)...I'm going to try and make an mp3 of their acoustic performance of "Gorgeous" and hopefully post it somewhere where we can all enjoy it....Later!!!!!
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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hey ya'll! i am in dallas, and i just heard theSTART on the edge, and i am in love. ya'll kick ass and sound wonderful. thanx for helping today's music have substance, and more rock.
Lindsay <fairydust0110@hotmail.com>
Plano, tx USA -

youre missing the POINT though. what are they making them happy WITH!?!?!? NKTOB already DID that. and the MONKEES before THEM! all i'm saying is FUCK appealing to these little kids. we've BEEN there. let's MOVE THE FUCK ON. as far as limp bizkit is concerned, theyre nothing more than a franchise now, and that has nothing to do with anything more than the direction they themselves CHOSE to take, which is, can anybody guess? ------> $$$!!! Nothing fucking more. I want to see a marilyn manson tour where it's just a big statue of David Bowie on the stage and manson walks out and dryhumps it for like an hour or so, and then that's the show. it'd be pretty much the same as if he played his own music. i dont know about tool. theyre a tough one. they havent spread themselves shamelessly open for any vh1 specials or TRL exlcusive interviews, so to me, they're doing just fine. they're selling MUSIC, not an image. there is something even harder to define. image. all i can say about image is that to me the things that are very easily discernible between good and evil lie along the motivations of a group of musicians about whether or not they want their audience to get more music or more image. he best bands have the best and most secure balance between the two. the worst sell their image on top of their music to try and stay on top of the scene. FUCK this, let's move on. i guess i'm a big picture person. i know what i say and what i put across may seem harsh and not very feasible but hey, i have high hopes. i'm not trying to force my views into anyone's face, i'm REALLY not, its just that...well...someday i dream for a moment when, simultaneously, thousands upon thousands of JUST THE RIGHT PEOPLE will come to in a sudden, jerking motion and realize 'hey. FUCK this. hey guys, let's change the world' and then they will. what can i say? i have high hopes. fuck it, yall, while i'm here typing this, i might as well apply it to theSTART and show you all why i think they are of the utmost importance. Aimee, Jamie, and Scott come from two of the bands that everyone else is now aping the shit out of, and it's really fucking annoying. These musicians were doing this shit back in the day, part of this sea of music there in LA. The ozzfest tour this year, for instance, was absolutely shameless to me. culminating since HWP's breakup, theSTART, as MUSICIANS first and foremost, have shown that they have the capacity to EVOLVE. compare all four of korns albums to eachother. i'm not saying theyre bad albums or anything, they just haven't EXPANDED...on ANYTHING. i'm looking for bands that are into doing that. EVOLVING. to me, that's REALLY important. now, can you see why music--- no, wait, why ACTS like BSB get not props from me, whatsoever?
kt
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I love the band and hope that you guys keep up the great work. I look forward to seeing you guys at the Bronco Bowl. Good luck in the future
Justin Thorne <djstfu34@yahoo.com>
Garland, TX US -

sorry for doin that twice.
Alex
USA -

Hey KT, plenty of fans the world over are saying the exact same thing about Limp Bizkit. And there are plenty of people saying that about Tool...about Marilyn Manson...and probably soon enough, and sad enough, theSTART. It IS basically your opinion. They are making tons of kids happy all over. I may not like em, but I respect em for that.
Alex
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i DO think about it. i do not see anything redeeming about them. before telling me the obligatory "that's just your opinion" why doesn't somebody REALLY defend them, tell me what's so good about them, what are they giving us that's so valuable, that we will remember for years? what's worth having them around, always on TV, always on the radio, making millions off of their NOTHING music?
kt
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as much as we prase "our" bands, that is how others feel upon the bsb....think about it. good luck to a.j.
erika
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hey, it is indeed the shits for AJ, i'm not denyin' that, but its great news for anyone who listens to music...and that's pretty much everybody, isn't it?
kt
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Shakedown comes out July 24th.
heather <alizarincoruscate@yahoo.com>
NS Canada -

TheStart fucking rule, i just found out about this page but i've had a sampler for a good couple of weeks, i know this is going to be redundant..but...when does the CD come out?
Yvonne <yvonne@antigirl.nu>
VA -

I may not like BSB, but I sure as hell don't think it's good for anyone to have those kinda of problems. I know it doesn't matter, but I wish the man the best. That is a hell of a tough thing to go through, and I don't think we should be celebrating it in any way.
Alex
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Does anyone know WHEN theStart are playing live on the radio tomorrow?
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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good luck to theSTART
erika
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kt - Yes! I've been waiting so long! *sobs with joy*
On another note, I've moved my theSTART fansite, perfect machine, to my own domain, so hopefully everything will work a bit better now! deaddesire.org/~thestart
If anyone has any reviews or pics that they'd like to contribute, please e-mail me, thanks!
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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oh...my...god...somebody assure me i dod not just hallucinate the backstreet boys on mtv announcing member AJ McClean has checked himself into rehab for "depression...anxiety...and excessive cunsumption of alcohol..." my friends...they've caneled 20 tourdates. their ride downward has begun.
kt
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oh, gia...gia gia gia...
kt
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They are the best there are no other give me a call or a email
danica <gcullen'@.net>
bynea, Eng wales -

They are the best there are no other giveme a call or a email
danica <gcullen'@.net>
bynea, Eng wales -

Just days away from Shakedown and tomorrow is the groups first big show on this tour- good luck.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca USA -

Did my post go up??? anyway I am posting again hahaha. The start CD IS GOOD!!!! YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE A NEMESIS VIDEO!!!! I LOVE THAT SONG!!!
SINNED <ppxsinned@aol.com>
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I got the Start CD and it's very good... KEEP IT UP!!!! MAKE A NEMESIS VIDEO!!! I LOVE THAT SONG!!!!
xSinneDx <ppxsinned@aol.com>
Silver Spring, Md USA -

its finally july! (yes, i just realized this...) and theSTART will be back here again on the 18th! who's going besides me? p.s. whouldn't it be hillarious if there was a kt/katie conspiricy?
gia
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thank you god for letting thestart tour with incubus.. i cried when they left warped tour.. and cried harder when they when on tour with sugar ray and unkle cracker.. but now incubus.. finally something GOOD for me to look foward too.. :D that show will kick ass :D
erik
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The Start are awesome! HWP ressurrected!! Can't wait for Shakedown...already got it on order. Oh, and check out Sicboy at www.sicboy.com. Music to groove too!! :)
Chris <theband@sicboy.com>
Stamford, CT USA -

yes incubus and theSTART what more could we want!
erika
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nyello! malcolm ~ when in august cos i'm in dublin from the 15th to the 22nd. i might be going to london in the next couple of weeks to see a few mates so if you're there then give me a ring!....and as for my life...its slowly going down the drain, my g/f broke up with me on sunday and now won't talk to me. the one i was seeing b4 her wants me back but lives so far away! and thats about it, did another AFD at work yesterday! i hate weddings!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

woo hoo! (start & incubus)
natalie
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I can't remember if they were already mentioned when we were talkin about bands to check out, but everyone needs to check out Black Rebebl Motorcycle Club. They sound so much like Bluebird. They are awesome. I know Aimee would like em cause she digs this kind of music, but all of ya'll should do it...it is like, emo + rock and roll. It's really great!
Alex
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I am SO excited to see theSTART in Seattle on July 24th! You guys ROCK and don't worry, I'm giving out all the stickers!!
JenJen <erinsbabyjen@hotmail.com>
Kirkland, WA USA -

YEAH! THAT HAS TO BE THE COOLEST TOUR EVER! THESTART AND INCUBUS! EVERYBODY READ THE NEWS PAGE! WOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex
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HAVE FUN , BE SAFE .. and see ya 8/13!
natalie
ny -

I love ur song Gorgeous, keep up the great work!
Amy <amylovestweety@yahoo.com>
Mesquite, Texas USA -

this is the start of a new tour, a new era of music, gender benders and all...this shall happen because of theSTART...the commencement of a new-found happiness is based upon the happiness that we have all shared on this board.....ScOtt~with his drumming sounds that are undescribably wonderful....JeFF~his bass lines are the medlodicest out there and show true compasion and no resentment....JaImE~his guitar and synth sounds adds to the band all the wonderful tools needed to creat such a unique and dance loving sound...AiMee~miss echo is just underscibable, she is the front woman of this band and shows that chicks know how to rock as hard as the guys, and her humblness is indwelling to us all, her rythmic voice gives life to what is known as theSTART(aimee, you are whom i want to be when i grow-up)....EnO~my baby is the joy of all their hearts....so in other words all this is saying is basically ~*MaY yOu HaVe A wOnDeRfUl TrIp theSTART*~(excuse all the typos and etc....) ~*LoVe*~ -erika
~*eRiKa*~ <bLaCk_MoRbId_AnGeL@hotmail.com>
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Well i haven't been here in a while i wanted to say HELLO to everyone. Also to theStart I hope the tour goes great. Have fun, Be safe!!! You guys are AWESOME!!! I already miss you... Spider&Stars*Angela*
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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have a wonderful trip theSTART
erika
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what really bites my ass about this tour is that i wont get to see them live but there is the likelihood that their fucking bus will pass right in front of my video store. If they're going from houston to el paso, there aren't very many routes east to west outbound from houston. depending on which one they take, they might very well pass within ten feet of my work...and i'm not going to get to see the damn band play!
kt
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Damn, creepy typos. Sorry for those.... heh. Have a good weekend everyone.
^*^ DeadLesa ^*^
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Hey puke - Sorry you feel that way, but I'm not sure which stories you're referring to. There is one article where theStart is mentioned in the headline but not covered, but that is only because we didn't get to the show in time - and that is noted in the review. -----http://www.unearthed.com/reviews/review_s_0084.shtml ----- However, there is another review where they not only are mentioned, but reviewed and photo'd... ----- http://www.unearthed.com/reviews/review_s_0079.shtml ----- so try to relax a little, all right? Next time you're running a website the size of UNEARTHED between only yourself and one other person, let me know how easy it is for ya. 'Kay guy? Give a sister a break. Here's teh link to the review I posted last night. And I'd say it's well enough in advance since the release date in JULY 24th. *shrug* Can't please everyone. But to everyone else, THANKS FOR THE PROPS! See you in the clubs. becausehttp://www.unearthed.com/reviews/review_r_0142.shtml
^*^ DeadLesa ^*^ <lesa@unearthed.com>
Hollywood, CA USA -

deadlesa ~ nice article and all, but it's about fucken time. i've read every show review on unearthed.com that said it had theSTART in it and every single one was completely devoid of any mention of the band. seems like your writers have really horrible deadlines and cant catch the headliners very often. oh well, a decent article regardless.
everybody ~ the band leaves tomorrow for texas to begin the tour! let's all wish them a safe journey
~sir puke~ <puke@angelabyss.com>
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damn, I just realized the tour starts in 4 days. woo hoo for the texas kids. tell us how it is!
alex <medosa@home.com>
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yes theSTART does know how to create wonderful music, so did hwp and snot(rip)
erika
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I was lucky enough to find a promo of theSTART @ a record store for a dollar (the same place where I had previously found the absolutely untraceable HUMAN WASTE PROJECT cd). I have to say, this album is awesome! It's one of the best I've heard in years. You can sort of hear the similarities between theSTART and HUMAN WASTE PROJECT, and you can't compare the two because they are two different musical sounds. But this, as it is, is a perfect album. It's absolutely captivating from beginning to end, and as always Aimee's voice is seriously one of the most unique female voices in music today. The song-writing is on another level, and this is sure to make any person dance, sing, or feel. You have to hand it to theSTART. They know how to make great songs.
Brian <newgenious@hotmail.com>
Washington, DC -

wow what an amazing review....thanks Lesa!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Hello my pretties. I amd Stefanie RaYna, i keep quiet much on this board, but i tend to read all the additions whenever i come here. I seem to love the amazingness that is miss echo and HWP/theSTART as much as all u wonderful people do as well. Basicly, im curious, is anyone near or around Chicago? Of course i am going to the show here, and i was wondering if i will be the only one in the audience dancing madly to theSTART. i hope to join what is the modern day heretics on this silly thing we call technology. bless. *steF*
Stefanie RaYna <raynarain@aol.com>
Chicago, IL USA -

what an awesome review.......
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PMM is no longer on the COLD/STAIND tour. ADEMA is.
hcw
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Lesa: Your review was RIGHT ON POINT! i dont think it could have been written any better! and the whole kim w. comparison is PERFECT because i think aimee's presence gives off the exact same feeling as kim's "kids in america" song. and there are so many, many, many different sounds i hear in the start from souixsie to missing persons to the cure. plus more. thanks for posting this here! i think its exactly what the board, heretics and band needed to read right now!!!
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Aimee and theStart: I have just completed a review of the Shakedown! disc that will be posted at UNEARTHED.COM tonight. Hope you''ll link to it, or use it in your press clippings. We love and support the band, and wish you all the very best of everything. xoxo, Lesa HERE'S THE REVIEW: (It will be much prettier when it's posted on UnEarthed tonight.) Without attitude or arrogance, and quite possibly without even knowing it, Aimee Echo has been the voice of a generation of hardworking, fearless women in rock that do not know the meaning of the word 𢖾uit�. After fronting one of the most promising bands of 2000 (Human Waste Project), enduring the heartbreak of friend Lynn Strait𠏋 death, and then the untimely demise of HWP, and standing up to rumors about her relationship with former Snot guitarist, Jamie Miller � Aimee Echo and her band have wasted no time in picking up the pieces and starting anew. One of the most poignant and respectful moments for me was seeing Aimee after hearing about the break-up Human Waste Project. There she was, at the Roxy on Sunset, as gracious and beautiful as one woman could be, looking each one of the club goers in the eye as we exited the club, passing paper flyers from her small, pale hand to ours, and telling us about her new project. 𡦖lease come and see my new band, theStart� It was enough to make you internally weep. Her tiny frame, seeming frail and weary, her angular, angelic face humbled and hopeful, asking everyone to attend her next gig. She was battle ready, but she was gentle and sweet where many might have been defiant and bitter. Seeing this project emerge triumphant and strong, with a positive feel to the material and a colorful new face has made it seem that 2001𠏋 theStart have unabashedly picked up where the Missing Persons and Kim Wilde of the 1980𠏋 left off. There are so many reminiscent sounds on these tracks that they whisk you away to the days of plastic bras, fishnet gauntlets and rubber bracelets, but the songs remain solid instead of feeble, and genuine instead of cheesy. The new CD on the Geffen label is called Shakedown!, and it may go without saying that this collection of danceable beats and catchy lyrics will make you want to move with them. That truth is apparent when witnessing the live performances of these songs, and the crowd reaction to them. Clean, clear keyboard and synth-pop soars from the background blending well with the guitar and bass swells, and Aimee𠏋 undeniably endearing, sandpaper croon. Her voice is pure, and shattering on some tracks, and delightfully warm on others. Right off the bat, the listener is wide-awake with the aforementioned Kim Wilde-esque chorus of the title track, and immediately bounced into first gear. Track 2 brings you into 𡡣ove story mode� with the pretty but rocking, sing-song qualities of 䥲orgeous�, but my personal favorite is the moody feel of 鏠ommunion�. The lyrics come through with some element of darkness, and perhaps secretive subject matter. 𨧻f you could take me with you/ would you be delicate with me/This is my first time communion/ I cannot breathe or speak or see.� Nice, right? This song left me wishing for others more like it. Be sure to play it loud. I also like 岞elt� quite a bit, and a song called 璌irty Lion�. In fact, it𠏋 difficult to choose which track is the most fun. There are plenty of goodies to indulge in on Shakedown!, and with 11 tracks to choose from, you𠑥l want to hit the repeat button at least once or twice. Each track has potential for hit status on any radio station in the country that has a sense of taste and class. Whether the band gets airplay with Shakedown! or not, (and let𠏋 hope they do!) from the sounds of the truly amazing songs on this CD, Aimee Echo and theStart are not returning to their humble beginnings at 𦽳quare one�, not at all. Instead, the band have taken the progressive approach by grabbing the industry by the horns and taking it from the top. Right where they belong! - Lesa Pence
DeadLesa <lesa@unearthed.com>
Hollywood, CA USA -

the rant begins: i think im gonna cry! as im sure we all know Staind and COLD are playing together the show nearest to me is in New Jerzee *asbury park convention hall = terrific place to see shows!* i didnt have a way of getting there till yesterday, then i found out PMM is gonna be at that show. i went to work, looked at the ticketmaster computer...the show is soldout. this really sucks....
natalie
ny -

I just saw the rough cut of the video today-- its freakin amazing!!! Everything looks soo wonderful- it made me feel as happy as the day we taped it!!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

My horn shall be exalted like the horn of the unicorn.
Borden Wormwood <fashionvictum@hotmail.com>
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Kick ass!
magicseamonkey <yogaclassforcats@hotmail.com>
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Hey, Malcolm...don't read this till Thursday....well, you smell like poo.....haha...j\k...but seriously folks....just letting everyone know...the materializing of theStart record is coming closer and closer...I work at a music store and I just found theStart listed in our computer and the release date is actually 7/24...the scheduled date...and the price as far as I can tell is $9.99...it may be on sale so lets all get on our dancing shoes so that Aimee can teach us how to use those things....."DANCE I SAID!!!!! Rise up! dance to a different beat.... Rise up! Shakedown!!!!
Monolith <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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could we just please drop the drama?
erika
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SNATCH came out on DVD yesterday and they have subtitles in Pikey-- I thought that was hilarious- I love that movie.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
Anaheim, ca 92804 -

k, i havn't been here for a month and everything on the speakout seems weird.
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

I love you kt.

I also love HMV sales. 4 CD's (2 Smiths, Incubus, Aphex Twin) for �21. Ahhh, comfort buying....
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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My friends, three and a half hours ago I imbibed four grams of these fantastic amsterdam dickhead mushrooms and I have now listened to Tad𠏋 InfraRedRidingHood album about three times over, and at this very second I am halfway through the forth; it is a very good album, and I recommend it to all of you. Tad is a Seattle band that is fronted by a chainsaw-weilding fat guy, who, coincidentally, is also known as Tad. When I see Tad the singer, I envision a fantastically enormous drunkard that dresses in flannels and sweats with a beenie stretched over his head and sits on a couch in the middle of his lawn with a six-pack in his lap and drifts in and out of euphoric states of epiphany like Buddha under the tree. This strikes me, my friends, on many different levels. I am so fascinated by this concept that these complicated, fiery conflicts develop internally. I am unable to remember just how many tangents were spurred in only the last couple of hours that have so far encompassed quite a trip, but there have been quite a few. There is so much hazy but intense thought and consideration happening right now, concerning Tad, but I have no idea where to even begin. I think I already did begin but I have no idea where I𠍿 headed. Sometimes during these isolated seizures I grab for a whatever is nearby as quickly as possible, and try to write as much as I can; here is one of the many passages that have been written in the last hour alone, this one in Hebrew, with jalapeno mustard across the wall over the thermostat: 孏he amazon rainforest is being cleared to service the cattle industry for American fast food corporations such as McDonalds. The purchase of a hamburger contributes to the slaughter of thousands of endangered species, as well as the homes of the natives. The cures for common diseases among the native peoples of the Amazon are only found in their natural habitat; consequently, the only sources of medicines available to treat the natives are being destroyed. The clowns must be hanged my friends; lynch Jack and Ronald, obliderate the fast food stranglehold, and the world will be made one better.�...I cannot explain where exactly this fit into the equation with Tad and the whole bit, but it is somehow apparently one of the major internal debates that was wrought by the image and sound of Tad itself. Or himself. There are so far about three hours worth of this stuff, all lost somewhere en route in my brain, and all yielding no more or less direct connection with Tad; there are even several pages of mathematical equations that figure compounding algebraic functions that I was never consciously aware of being able to process. Some of them are downright crazy. Even more bizarre though, is that some of them even make sense! But those ones are boring. Here𠏋 one that was not written, rather cut and pasted with letters and word fragments from magazines and Weekly World News headlines: 𨧻t has been documented that there is a widening hole in the ozone layer over Australia. This causes extreme temperatures and severe bombardment of dangerous ultra violet rays, which cause skin cancer. Australia leads internationally in the number of mellonoma cases diagnosed in coastal reagions each year. This is believed to be directly correlated to the hole in the ozone layer. In looking for a cause for the decreasing ozone, researchers discovered the likely possibility that Japan might be the culprit. Japan leads in the use of disposable Styrofoam that, when broken, releases chemicals harmful to the atmosphere into the air. The Earth𠏋 axis tilts in such a fashion that seasonal jet streams carry high concentrations of these chemicals right down to the atmosphere above Australia, instigating the whole thing. Japanese hotel in the fall + coffee in the morning = Australian Surfer stricken with cancer��.Now I know I am starting to lose some of you. Sit down, sit down. Let me reassess this situation; let me get my bearings goddammit. I just don㦙 know, people. You see, somehow, this was actually extremely relevant at the time, which I cannot really explain. Hold on my friends, I have to go to the bathroom. Alright, I𠍿 back. It𠏋 been about half an hour now since I typed the word 𨘀athroom�, because on my way back I got distracted by something. I forgot what it was, but, according to the clock, I either spent thirty whole minutes preoccupied with it, or I was really just standing idly in front of the john for an impressive stretch of time. Either possibilty is just about as likely as the other at this point. And you all know what? I completely forgot what I was even writing about in the first place. But that𠏋 ok, too. See, the handy thing about these Internet contraptions is that the stuff is usually still there when you come back. Oh, ok. Tad. Again, I cannot quite grasp where exactly all this nonsense fits into the grand scheme of Tad, but somehow its there (�along with 15 bar napkins covered on both sides with quotes from the English Oxford Dictionary Appendix IV B, written backwards in purple lipstick) helping to hold it all together, my friends, and keep all this from getting completely out of control. I love Tad.
kt
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wait a minute...when did i say anything about becoming something attacking myself? don't give me too much credit for remembering if i am or am not or who am is not oh no who is who is cannot be that who messaged the is who....?
kt
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Conspiracy 101..(the evidence)
(for your consideration)
"at this point i'm becoming the thing i'm attacking.~KT "
followed by
"P.S. did anyone ever notice how alike the names "katie" and "kt" are??~Katie"
so KT.. are YOU really Katie after all????
~human

human <human@thisisthestart.com>
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Now that we have heard both sides of the argument...wouldn't it be great if we could just drop this whole thing? I believe everyone has made their point.Good points and bad points from both sides. But it sure is getting old now. On to happier things...only 2 weeks till Iget to see theSTART here in AZ. Damnit I wish I still lived in Cali so I could see them at the Ampitheater, too..but what the hell can I do. I am going to be going to theSTART concert here in AZ alone, cause I don't have any friends here. But hell I'll be singing and dancing by myself and STILL be having a great time! I know it!
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
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its great to have wisdom back on this board...thank god.
erika
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oh wow. it finally let me see everything new. and you know what - i agree with puke. this place used to be so different. i've been hanging around here since it started. and it's changed so much. meaningful went to meaningless. and i don't give a shit if you're going to jump on me for that. this place used to feel like a community. and now seeing as most of the oldies have disappeared. the feeling disappeared with them. life isn't full of sunshine. so why should a message board be? does it not say at the top of this that anything goes?
hypnaughtika
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my computer hates the speakout. i can never see new messages till like a month later. blasted fucking computer. kill it! hope everyone is well. malcolm - email me sometime man! same things goes for you puke! take care. byeee.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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My two cents.
There are very few things that make me laugh more than what I read on this board. Especially certain long winded posts about cannabalism and weddings. The people on this board are all fantastic. So we disagree sometimes? FANTASTIC! The important thing is we can sit and discuss it, and not resort to the school of "Yeah, well, you smell of poo" insults I see on some boards. We all rule.
Secondly, Good to see you back Jen. Hope life is good. Doing anything mid august? Only i'm having a birthday bash in london if you can make it. That goes for anyone else who thinks they can.
Thirdly. I'm having a pretty bad week. To cap it all off it looks as though my grandmother won't live to see wednesday. My mother and stepfather are leaving at 2am to get up to scotland to see her, and if there's a funeral, i'm travelling up by train, but I can't go tonight, as someone has to look after the house, and my stepfathers canaries. I don't mind so much, but I'm never gonna see her alive again. So forgive me if I don't post much for the bnext couple of weeks. Not that that changes much.

I'm off to play Hang on Me and One night in spain really fucking loud. See y'all soon.
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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the subject may be dead and forgotten, but i noticed that it touched more than one nerve, so i will continue ... in case anyone was unaware: this place, special as it may be, is a messageboard for a band. it's reason for being cannot be disputed. it was not created by national socialists who believe that only comments of the positive nature are to be made while visiting this messageboard. "be kind" but not be unreasonable. to say that somebody should sort out their negativity elsewhere before coming here is absolutely absurd. can you imagine how useless and boring this place would be if everybody had to be all smiles all the time? if every post was full of cheer and joy, not because the people posting are completely happy, but because we only want to read positive sounding posts? this should be a cool place away from all the usual messageboard bullshit, but it should also be a place where we feel we can speak our minds. i cant speak my mind if i'm worrying about how negative my post is going to sound. fuck that. you want to know the big difference between the speakout of now and the speakout of old? we dont talk about anything meaningful anymore. before, if somebody posted something really negative they would be talked to to see why they felt that way or at least get support from people. not "hey gloomy-guss, why dont you go rain on someone else's parade?" if somebody seemed sad they never got a simple "be happy," they got a friend if they wanted one. if somebody came up with a subject for discussion more than two people would reply. very rarely would a meaningful discussion be passed up in favor for talk of hair dye or blink 182. you can dance if you want to but you can also just fucking stand there and enjoy things at your own pace. it's time we celebrate our differences, not our similarities, and let everybody think for themselves. i believe that is much more theSTART's mantra.
~sir puke~ <srpukealot@aol.com>
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hey all!! sorry its been a while but y'know! i've been working very hard i've been on AFDs (all fuckin day) shifts at the hotel and its slowly killing me!
erika ~ thanx mate...she was old and had alhzeimers (sp?) so it was really the best thing that could have happened...i don't mean that how it sounds but she was unable to move, speak and do anything for herself so....

bronagh ~ should have said earlier i was in dublin but i'm coing back there in august if you are still up for beverages! **hugs to all** BYEEEEEEEE
jen jen
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that must have been so funny, it should be a priceless moment...heheheh!
erika
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This is very funny:: This is a true story about a recent wedding that took place at Clemson University. It was a large wedding with about 300 guests. After the wedding, at the reception, the groom got up on stage at the microphone to talk to the crowd. He said that he wanted to thank everyone for coming, many from long distances, to support them at their wedding. He especially wanted to thank the bride's and groom's families for coming and to thank his new father-in-law for providing such a fabulous reception. To thank everyone for coming and bringing gifts and everything, he said he wanted to give everyone a special gift from just him. So taped to the bottom of everyone's chair was a manila envelope, including the wedding party. He said that this was his gift to everyone, and told everyone to open the envelopes. Inside each manila envelope was an 8x10 picture of his best man having sex with the bride. He had gotten suspicious of the two of them and hired a private detective to trail them weeks prior to the wedding. After he stood there and watched the people's reactions for a couple of minutes, he turned to the best man and said, "Fuck you!". He turned to his bride and said, "F--- you!", and then he turned to the dumbfounded crowd and said, "I'm out of here." He had the marriage annulled first thing that Monday morning. While most of us would have broken off the engagement immediately after finding out about the affair, this guy went through with it anyway, as if nothing was wrong. His revenge: * Making the bride's parents pay over $32,000 for 300 guests for a wedding and reception. * Letting everyone know exactly what did happen. * And best of all, trashing the bride's and best man's reputations in front of all of their friends and their entire families. This guy has balls the size of church bells. Do you think we might see one of those MasterCard "Priceless" commercials out of this? Elegant wedding for 300 family and guest...$32,000 Photographers for the wedding... $3,000 Non-refundable Deluxe Honeymoon accommodations in Maui for 2 weeks...$8,500 The look on everyone's faces after seeing a photo the Bride and Best Man having sex... Priceless Hope you all enjoy!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

i am kind of offended by the fact that the thing i said at first (in regards to keeping this a happy place) was so twisted, then two other people basically said the same thing without the thought that that was what i was saying all along. i agree, and ever statement i have made has said the same. P.S. did anyone ever notice how alike the names "katie" and "kt" are?
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
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i have completely given up on bjork. she has moved so far beyond my scope of musical perception to a level of artsiness i will never understand, and quite frankly one that i will never work up the energy to even bother to attempt...radiohead was almost at that point with me when kid a came out but amnesiac aleviated that threat.
kt
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i have been requesting "gorgeous" up the ass and still i haven't heard it. that makes me sad. although it might be contributed to the fact that i never listen to the radio...i can't wait to see the video on MTV!
e.lux
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hey everyone :::waves::: "Smile though your life is miserable" try to be happy damnitt. 2 days ago i was a very happy monkey wanna know why? (if you say no well too bad) I heard Gorgeous on the radio. Its a small victory for theSTART but still its some airplay in my dinky state of CT. I shall increase my request demands for Gorgeous and hopefully it shall work and then i will go crazy with power...or just crazy in general. Ahh i apologize for such a rambling post i must go now ::::scurries off::::
brooke <GurLinThehall@aol.com>
CT -

it's great to have you back ryan....
erika
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kidneythief I just was trying to be creative- I didn't really know what it was all bout, so I wasn't trying to aim any comment towards you- but if anyone was being mean lets just try and make this a happy go lucky place for the heretics of america-- my weekend was sunburnt Warped Tour on Fri and Ozzfest on Sat-- it was fun but very tiring-
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

Joan Billings, Showstoppers Video store customer #3487, studied anthropology at Columbia University in 1974: "At the end of our senior year, our professor took us on a trip to the Amazon to help him in his studies of a tribe native to the area. He would go there once a year for about, oh i dont know, a month or so every year and live with them; apparently he had been...accepted or something into the tribe's customary lifestyle. So we spent a week gathering all our equipment that we had been assigned to collect, but one of the odd things was that nobody was told to bring any sort of food supplies. i ended up asking the professor while we were actually on the flight there, and he explained to me that we would be fully immersing ourselves in tribe's environment and culture, and that includes food. 'Besides,' he told me, 'you'll like it. You're not a vegetarian or anything are you?'...i told him i wasn't and he said i'd do fine. it was three more days before the group choppered, drove, and hiked to the tribe. I mean, we're talkin seriously rural here. These people live so deep in the bush it's insane. The only contact they had with anyone outside of a few other rival tribes in the area was our professor. He brought them a lot of medicine and whiskey, so his presence was revered to the tribe as an annual coming of good fortune. This was the first time he brought anyone with him, but we were accepted right away. There was supposed to be a big feast that night to celebrate or coming to stay, and immediately we were seperated into two groups, the women and the men. all of our boys went with the professor and all the tribesman went off to cook the food, at which point i assumed was probably wild boar, on account of the indigenous animals in that region. Us girls were left with the women, to, accroding to our translator, prepare the herbs for the meats. We went along with them and picked and grinded and separated and sampled for about two or three hours, twilight, which was right around when i heard the scream. I don't know where it came from or if it was even human, but there was this long, loud shriek off in the distance that went on for like 10 minutes. We didn't say anything because the women apparently didn't seem to care. After a while we all came to the conclusion that it was singing---we'd heard tribal hymns more obnoxious before. After it stopped, there was another half hour of silence and then more screaming, but this time it was instantly recognizable as singing. Our spices were done, and we could hear the guys all shouting for us to come out, so we all filed out. I immediately smelled barbeque, and my mouth started watering. We walked through the brush to the giant lean-to where all the guys were crowded around. The boys in our group were all stripped down to their shorts, and they raised the arms and hooted along with the tribesman at the sight of us. The smell of meat was choking then, and big thick plumes of dark smoke rose from behind all the boys. They parted for us to see the fire behind them, and over it was a giant roasting spit made of sharp bamboo. The men cheered as we caught our first glimpse. Rotating slowly on the spit was a blackened sinuous crackly smoking human body. Turning the spit on the left end was my professor, with a grin from ear to ear..."...Joan Billings is a married mother of three. She's a practicing southern baptist. She prefers that i do not rent children R rated movies.
kt
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When is SHAKEDOWN! released in the UK? And when will theSTART play in the UK?
Lynda <ladolcevita666@hotmail.com>
Scotland -

i dont even know where the fuck any of this came from. I was in a rotten mood furthered by the desire to see something tasteful and artistic on tv, furthered by the fact that there wasn't, and i just happened to be sitting here at the computer, out came the post. sorry. sometimes, things pop into my head and that i'd rather not have there, and a truly excellent wat to vent is to have them spread through telephone lines and satellite feeds at billionths of a second for me to feel a glint of release. sorry. sometimes, i just dont feel up to wearing a plastic smile, when mine isnt functioning properly. sorry. i don't know anything about the universe, and you all know what? i'm very comfortable with that. i never wanted to wax superiority over beliefs, i just stated mine when you brought up negativity. nothing more. i dont believe in pos/neg in the context of 'good' and 'bad', i believe in stimulation. good things come from the 'negative'. or at least it happens quite frequently with me. Calvin's dad said it builds character. he was quite close.
kidneythief
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Hello people, I so agree with Ryan; this is OUR home, we shouldn't make a mockery of this beautiful place provided for us to express our loyalty and love for theSTART and each other. Thanks *katie* for stopping the "drama"....*kt* thanks for also considering it. How was your weekend Ryan???? Also Ellen??? Lex when you come back call me!!
erika
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why is everyone yelling and bringing so much negativity into the circle-- bring your problems outside the circle and when you are through you may come back in-- just don't taint our happy go lucky atmosphere for a better heretic existance.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

I shall be home in 2 days. Tool already sold out, which sucks. I wanted to see them. Go Ellen for that cool thing. I wish I could have been home to see Deadsy...the HOB is like. 20 mins from my house. Anywho, I will talk to yall soon!
Lex
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yr right, 1. i was just suprised by the amount of defense that was put up in regards to my comment. i was offended. but i'm dropping it because at this point i'm becoming the thing i'm attacking.
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
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i say katie and ky just lay off the god damn drama.
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you don't belive in positivity and negativity? i can honestly say i have no idea how to respond to that. it sounds like saying you don't belive in gravity cause you're feeling more pushed down than pulled. positivity and negativity are fundemental elements of the universe, just look around.
oh well. i can see there's obviously no reasoning with you and what started out as a cautious concern, one shared by many, for keeping the one place we can really call our own happy is now a battle over beliefs.
i expressed an opinion, it was your call.
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
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ellen, damn you!
erika
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ive never believed in positivity or negativity. just stimulation.
kt
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Damn!! ellen you are sooo lucky! I wanna see deadsy!!! Amy and I lined up for agggeesss on Friday to get tickets for tool.. and they sold out in like 40 minutes!! We got stupid seats, but atleast we got anything at all. On a lighter note we are off to see Roxy Music in august.. whooooooo I heard on the radio the other day that sugar ray are going to come back down here at the end of the year.. any chance of them bringing you guys with them?? :) Byeee all! LauRrra
Lau Ra <fable@writeme.com>
syd, Oz -

Oh my god....I had soooo much fun at the house of blues in anaheim to see Deadsy. I got to hang out with them and shop...it was so cool..wow I am so amazed by their performance...they are very good livre....and I met Ryan and Paige from Orgy and I took pics of them....and I met mark mcgrath and THESTART..aimee remembered me and said to me and my sister that "these are my gals"...I am so fortunate I got a vip pass and got to hang with everyone upstairs...once it was all over I got to walk with Ryan to the parking lot...he is so sweet and funny....oh by the way he's going back to the house of blues on sunday to see ohgr if any of you want to see him..I'm going! :) :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

on a happier note, i put up a bunch of pictures from the "gorgeous" video shoot. to check them out just click on my name. then click on photos. join the club while yr there! thanx, tell em if you like them.
KATIE <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

kt, the fact that you let that get to you and go so far as to post it on a board with the purpose of inclusion, dancing, and happiness is very nagative. i agree that she is skanky and david lachapelle has more talent than he's shown lately. however, it is such a small part of my life that i really don't care. maybe in your everyday life you are not a negative person but on this board you have proven otherwise. as so many of us said a few weeks ago, its so refreshing to finally have a place where we can leave nagativity behind and just share with people who have done the same. i only want it to be kept that way, and many people have told me the same.
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

kt~i'm truely sorry for all this missunderstanding, i don't think katie meant it to hurt you.
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"Well i'm standing next to the mountain..chop it down with the edge of my hand.. MOMMIE!! I DON'T WANNA BE A ROCKSTAR NO MORE!!!"

Bill Hicks. Comedy Genius. Infact, Genius outright. How about this one though man? "And i'll go you one further! Those rock stars that do not take drugs, and in fact speak out against drugs? Boy they suck!" I lova that man. Too bad he died....He'd have had a field day with the US right now. And the UK come to think of it..
Metal Malcolm
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to help more adequately prove my point, i'm going to recite a bill hicks piece that helped me to understand:"...Debbie Gibson had the NUMBER ONE ALBUM in this country?!? does that not make your blood FUCKING CURDLE?!?...now, i don't know if i'm just romanticizing the past, but i remember a time when music had passion, music had courage, and music had BALLS. Member that? Member Jimi Hendrix? Any question about that guy? This guy had a dick. Right now, at this point in our evolution we have at our fingertips instant conveyance and communication of the greatest thinkers of our time, but no...what's that little white girl sayin'? What's that lil Debbie Gibson sayin'? i think i'll buy her album. FUCK that. what a waste of good body organs...to think that someone could use a could liver, too...and then some of you say 'oh, she's just a little girl, she's just workin as hard as she can, she writes her own music, she's just a little girl'...NO! THEY ARE DEMONS SET LOOSE ON THE EARTH TO LOWER THAT STANDARD OF THE PERFECT AND HOLY CHILDREN OF GOD!!!"
kt
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since when am i always negative? i'm sorry if my blood comes to a boil when i turn to see if perhaps they might be showing a music video somewhere, there's that little mall creature bouncing up and down wearing virtually nothing. I typically wouldn't have a problem with this, except for the FACT that her target audience are girls in the 10-14 year old range. This bothers me. This makes me feel 'negative'. Especially after all that hoopla thrown up about manson playing a denver show. N'Sync hump the floor with gyrating pelvises and then say "Dirty Pop". now, why am i being asked about negativity again? i forgot. please people. i know im not exactly a fucking ray of sunshine or anything but i feel my reasons for being horrofied and disgusted at a photographer who does nothing but perpetuate all of this horseshit are somewhat valid. And you know what else? i'll go you all one further and just say that if only you all did the same, and then everyone else beyond did too, we would cast out the false and live in the highest standard, and utopia would replace 'society' in all our vernaculars. cause you know what, my friends? i'm so goddamn tired of that word.
kidneythief
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thanks ellen. i shall not be home today sat.(6/30) but i'll be home all-day tomorrow....ryan i envy you, good luck today! katie thanks for informing me on who david is. omar you were wearing a tad-bit too much make-up, but it looked cool! Bye ya'll......
erika
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Strange you should say that kt, I've always called Mariah Carey a muppet...let's not forget about her saggy 60-year-old-esque boobs that she insists on showing off at every opportunity! *multiple shudder*
Bronagh <bronagh@deaddesire.org>
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katie
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OOOO more pics are up and I'm there. Just look and tell me if I had too much make up on. I don't think I did. I think my make up was super. And those red bulls were super. And the video was super. And and and the band was super super!
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USofFregginA -

hey erika i'll promise i'll call you soon...oh yeah i'm going to pick up that copy the picture you wanted as fast as possible.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

i heard that theSTART is going to be on the Family Values tour. is this true? if it is, then i must go (even if they are the only band on the bill i like)! does anybody know?
KATIE <DEADSYCHICK@YAHOO.COM>
L.A., -

david lachapelle is a really good photagrapher. he works primarily for Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone and has two books of photography out. i want to take pictures like he does.
KATIE <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

I am not in the pics ::sniff:: oh well- did anyone go to Warped Tour today?? I wore my stick man shirt proudly-- I was extremely happy to be able to see Lo Ball play I didn't even know they were going to be there!!!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

who is daivd lachapelle?
erika
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Hey everyone. I respect any artist including britney even though i don't like her. everyone deserves credit for their hard work. think about it!
erika
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kt, i know everyone loves yr stories and all, but why are you so negative? especially in a place like this. theSTART's whole...mantra...is to remove negaive energy and be happy. so be happy for fucks sake!
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

i am honestly so embarassed for david lachapelle! i had so much respect for him, and it isn't like his career needed a boost or anything. what got into him? very sad.
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

...point blank with a 10 guage. buckshot. spread those falsely-praised-as-talented brains all over the cover of a rolling stone issue on the wall behind him. anybody...ANYBODY who sees an artistic merit in this music video should also be confined and subsequently shot in the face.
kt
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i have a question for you all, and i'd appreciate it if you answer with the utmost conviction---is mariah carey even REAL? to me she seems like a big brown rubber gyrating ass with two legs sticking out. a jim henson thing, know what i mean?...and Dave LaChappelle needs to be shot in the face.
kt
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wow....i havent been here in so long....im sure EVERYONE missed me....haha...
dean
md -

Oh my goodness...Hustlers really is quite the fucked up place. Sure, they have some cute things in there. And the only times I've ever been in there was at night (usually before a show or after). But I went in during the daytime...for the FIRST TIME...to purchace some playing cards with naked boys on them (hey it was Joey's 19th birthday..had to get SOMETHING useful)...and they carded me. THEY CARDED ME! They had never done that before. I guess they are just more strict in the day time. I dunno why..but it sucks. *sigh* enough of my complaints. But lord knows I'm full of em!
Linds
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~*they called me heretic and flout and made me a circle to keep me out, but wit and i had the will to win and drew a bigger circle to bring them in*~
~*UnKnOwN*~
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Hustlers is wack, i love the penis couch!!!! Anyone heard any good jokes lately?
erika
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i'm not in any of the pictures :( i was in the hustler store dealing with a stomach ache when they took them. damn. cute ones of you, though, lindsey.
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
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HEY ALL I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE, I FIGURED I READ THESE THINGS EVERYDAY I SHOULD WRITE ONE MYSELF. TAKE CARE Y'ALL BYE
PETER PAN!!!! <XTEENAGEDEATHBOY@AOL.COM>
SAN GABRIEL VALLEY, CA -

hehehe how cool! to whoevers not in the pictures...don't be too mad...at least you got to be there.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

The back of my head is in photo 1. LOL. With the pigtails. ha ha ha ha...
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

also not in pix.. :( lol
jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
los angeles, -

oh sure, i step out of line for 5 minutes and that's when they take pictures. couldn't this have happened before my marijuana break?? i better be all over that fucking video now

:^P
~sir puke~
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KT- I'm in one of the pix. I'm in 'kids6' I'm the one with the bleached roots. All those pix are really cute. Thanx to the guys (and gals..ehehe) in theSTART for caring enough about the fans to put their pix up. We love you guys.
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

videoshoot...pardon.
kt
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hey---are any of you in the kids' pics of the photoshoot on this site?
kt
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i dont know anything about websites. if i did there would be a site somewhere of the longest work-in-progress paragraph in the history of the english language with my name at the bottom. this contraption only services me with the luxury of e-lectronic mail and the opportunity to harangue the likes of you folk.
kidneythief
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shakedown! is finally in the computers at tower records :o) circles is still in there, it makes it look like you guys have 2 cds out. The thing i dont understand the price for circles the computer said $18.99 .. and shakedown! is $9.99.
natalie
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Has anyone checked out the last Metal Hammer issue? There is a great review of The Start live and in the new one Tairrie B of My Ruin has a column which is very cool to read. Go Start!
HC
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kt - thanks for the enjoyment. i agree, you should put all yr stories in one place so we can read 'em. they're really good.
natalie
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as we speak there is a contingent of politicians and statesmen in North Dakota who are desperately lobbying to have the "North" dropped from the state's name because it "evokes the kind of imagery that we believe misrepresents our home state"...all throughout the CNN report, clips of the film Fargo were shown, the only connection to the story being that it is set in the same town the chief lobbyist is from. The cnn anchor asked him if he enjoyed the film, where he responded "I liked it as uh a comedy but i think it helped fuel a lot of misconceptions about this area" leaving me, my friends, with the burning question: aren't there BIGGER problems out there to be committed to?
kt
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RyAn HoW hAvE yOu BeEn?
erika
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Yeah its supposed to come out July 24th. Hey KT you should publish that! If you ever do write something I'll buy-- it reminds me of a mixture of Se7en and Bringing out the dead... Awesome.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

ryan, you seem to have that list right. i was looking at the first track list posting going "um...doesn't seem right". now that that's resolved, i still have a question. i was pretty sure it comes out in july...is that right?
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
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That story man....he rents chick flicks....he is single....Coincidence? I dunno... ;)

You should collate all your posts on here for a site, it would be SO worth reading...
Metal Malcolm
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KiCk AsS sToRy Kt! EnO iS mY bAbY!
erika
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the best thing about that story is that every goddamn word of it is absolutely true
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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I have Be Mine on the Hero Demo so its been around for awhile- then it was on Circles but amped up along with Gorgeous and Hang on Me while dropping Flying Machine, then they dropped Be Mine, Sin is Original and Make It Through and added Shakedown and Her song for the album Shakdown and have a song Veil that isn't on anything. Maybe that will be a b-side-- at any rate they are all great songs. If there are any corrections to this please feel free to do it I was just trying to do it off of memory-- I think I have it down pretty good though heh-- I have permanent theSTART on the brain.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
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KT - that story...damn!!! g r e a t!
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I liked that! Good job KT.
scott <scott@thisisthestart.com>
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Brian Yeakley, Showstoppers Video customer # 2334, is a Paramedic:"...my worst call? Well, shit man, i've seen some crazy, crazy shit on this job for the past six years...But there is this one call thats never been topped in my book---the one that we still talk about today. I was probably two years on, and me and my partner were eating lunch at this cafe in town, when we got radioed a possible cardiac arrest in this apartment complex a few blocks away. So me and my partner went over to check it out and we were the second unit on the scene; The first was waiting out in front of the apartment door for us, all shaking their heads n'shit. they said 'you're not going to fucking believe this one...go on in and see for yourselves' and my partner asked him, 'well what the fuck is it?' and he said, 'just...go on in and check it out for yourselves; we didn't even find the body yet'...so the two of them stood back while me and my partner stepped forward and opened the door. immediately there was the most awful fuckin' gust of this...you know what dead shit smells like, right? well it smelled like that ten fuckin' times over and right when we walked through the threshold into the apartment is was like...like a fucking jungle, or something...the humidity was godawful, and it was probably over one hundred degrees on there. All around the living room things were warped; the tv was still on, but just static, there was a dish of rotting food on the coffee table that was so far gone it was covered with flies and mold, and all the furniture was dilapidated and slowly losing its cohesiveness, the seat of the sofa was like only a foot off the fuckin' gorund by then...the ceiling fan, which was on, was flapping like crazy, and when we reached over and turned it off, all of the blades drooped straight downward, all warped from the moisture. We couldn't find the body in any of the rooms, but then we heard the shower running, and we were like 'oh...c'mon, not in the goddamn SHOWER' and we walked over to the bathroom door. it was locked, so my partner reared back and kicked it in. all of this thick-ass fog hit us, came all flowing out like crazy and the stench was just unbearable. Me and my partner fanned our way through to the shower. The curtain was drawn shut, so i looked over to my partner. 'i'm not fuckin' doin it!' he said, 'don't fuckin' look at me!'...so i just said fuck it and bit my lip and closed my eyes and reached out, grabbed the curtain, and pulled it to the side. I heard him turn around and fuckin vomit right there. right on the spot! so i opened my eyes, and i almost vomited right there, too: this old man, who probably wieghed about three hundred in this day, had a hard attack and fell backwards in the shower. he was a giant, rotten bloated sausage now, and various parts of his body were all different fuckin' shades of gray and green and black, and there was this fuckin' mold growth like climbin up the wall from his left thigh...we both fuckin' ran out of there like mad and got to the front of the apartment where the police and coroners were waiting. there was once ex-vice cop, this big black guy, been on the force like 25 fuckin' years, right? and he's got this little pinhead rookie with him, who's so brand-new he's carryin' around a pen and paper and writin notes! So the old man comes up to me and says, 'So, what do we got?' and i said, like the first unti before me, 'Maybe you should just go in and see this for yourself' and he nodded and grabbed the rookie and went inside. Me and my parnter turned and joked with the other unit for about thirty seconds when all of the sudden, he the rookie came runnin' out, leaning over the rail and pukin his guts out, pale as a fuckin ghost. The old cop comes stormin out of there and grabs me by the collar and says 'Son, what the FUCK you go and do that for?'...oh man...that right there was just about the worst. I really felt sorry for the coroners, though...he was so far gone that if they lifted him up his skeleton would fall out of his back..." Brian Yeakley the Paramedic enjoys thai food, 80's heavy metal music, and excercising. He rents mostly chick flicks. He is currently single.
kt
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i have "shakedown". i cant stop playing it!
steve <axen_k@yahoo.com>
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it's going for five dollars at the moment... august 13, hammerstein ballroom, new york city... general admission, floor, woo. drop me an email.
stefanie <justine@nme.com>
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ryan (heroelux@aol.com): so the actually removed three tracks from 'circles' & added two new one's? 'be mine', 'make it through' & 'the sin original'. i'm pretty sure the song they wrote & recorded with jay is called 'the sin original' though. it was mentioned in the old biography from www.shoutweb.com. nice, so that means they have three tracks laying around that might be released as b-sides. i didn't even know they had a finished version of 'be mine'. thanks a lot, tim.
tim <prettylush@hotmail.com>
leiden, ... the netherlands -

hey stefanie...how much for that ny sugar ray ticket????
sage <kidneythieve@aol.com>
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"i.q. testing should be directly linked to the death penalty."
~sir puke~
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I received a very ignorant message in my guestbook (on perfect machine) today, with no e-mail address left (typical). So if a Carter happens to visit here, please leave your e-mail address next time you decide to leave verbal spew in my guestbook, so I can at least mail you and let you know just how big a moron you actually are. Thanks.
Bronagh <bronagh@acidkiss.org>
Dublin, Ireland -

1)Glimmerman 2)Gorgeous 3)Communion 4)Melt 5)Hang On Me 6)Dirty Lion 7)Nemesis 8)Be Mine 9)Sin Is Original 10)Make It Through 11)Kiss It Better 12)Time They took off Be Mine and Sin Is Original
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

if you like theStart, orgy and deadsy. check out cUM. http://www.cummusic.com thanx.
Chote Rosemary <deadboyx2000@>
Liverpool, UK -

hey all, i was wondering if anyone on here still has the tracklist of 'thestart's record when they were gonna release it under the name 'circles' back in 2000? i know they removed at least one track: 'the sin original', which jay gordon from 'orgy' co-wrote & sang on. i have seen the tracklist back then, but i haven't been able to find it anywhere. thanks, tim.
tim <prettylush@hotmail.com>
leiden, ... the netherlands -

hey wait a second, those lyrics (to gorgeous at least) look like they were um, pasted and edited from my attempted version... still got my question marks on gorgeous, heh. cooool. hey, anybody need a floor ticket to the new york sugar ray show? i've got one to spare and i'm sellin it cheap.
stefanie
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kt. I often suffer from this rare strain. Especially when under the influence. I get called lazy Now I know the TRUTH!

I hope I get a job soon, I can't afford to miss theSTART this summer.Hope I can get shakedown soon too. i'm suffering withdrawal symptoms since I can't be bothered to set my PC up again. help me someone....
Metal Malcolm
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Anyone going to Sinder's show this afternoon?
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

Aww jen, you should have said you'd be in Dublin, we could've gone for drinkies! =) I really should try and post more here, I'm a lazy ass...how is everyone?
Bronagh <bronagh@acidkiss.org>
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One little question about the Sugar Ray tour....will there be shirts and the sort available at the show? That sure would rock my lame ass....hehe....oh and if there are....will they be available on this site? Just curious.....
Cory "The Caco" <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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July.
Cory "the Caco
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so is anyone going to the deadsy show at the hob in anaheim next on the 28th? If so, I'd love to meet up with you.
Ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

I'm so excited and i just can't hide it i'm a maniac maniac on the dance fllor and i'm dancing like i'd never daced before
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~i was there when they would stare at you just like the light had fallen from the sun you'd think that jesus had come i called you sugar on that day and i later drove a mantic haze so~(you know the rest)
~*EnO*~
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the 24th of June or July? EnO iS mY bAbY!
erika
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Well it appears to be official.......theStart's album will be out on the 24th....I was just goofing around on cdnow and it is actually up on their site to preorder....so I think I'll just say "THANK GOD!!!!! FINALLY!" and go have a heart attack.....ta ta fellow heretics.....
Cory "The Caco" <caco0690@hotmail.com>
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i am.
~puke~
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me, too, amanda. (im happy other people will get to see them and i always leave with a smile on my face.) who's gonna see them with sugar ray? i'll be there at the universal ampetheatre.
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

Hey Katie! I feel the same way...I am quite a content little bunny foo foo for being able to live where theSTART or My Ruin plays once almost every month! I am really excited about theSTART touring though so even more people can experience one of their shows...honestly, I always leave a START show with a big goofy smile on my face. I always have so much fun and I get to see so many friends and familiar faces there! The whole vibe at their shows is so positive! I love it! :D xoxoxoxoxoox
AMANDA <spookyw0rmybaby@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

kt - that was enjoyable!
natalie
ny -

Good Morning to Everyone! ~Kidneytheif you have an awesome imagination....always making me laugh with your stories, you should become a write. HuGsS and KiSsEs!
erika
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oh, kt, that is awfully sad. don't worry, i will dance enough for the both of us, perhaps while singing or moving my fingers in a wiggling-like motion. :)
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

kate...kate kate kate...i wish it were that simple. but you see, i've contracted a rare strain of the long extinct polio virus that has overcome my vaccination to it and thusly renders me incapable of doing certain things (this here is the 'rare strain' bit) such as physical multitasking; for however long it takes the disease to run its course, i will not be able to chew while walking, swallow while chewing, or even move while music is playing. nor will i be able to swim while laughing, smoke while swimming or practice my namesake hobby of organ retrieval, es-SPECIALLY while nodding. If i nod once during a procedure, i risk botching the whole thing; this, my dear friends, is a definite no no in the business. Clients tend to get a little upset when the liver they requested was dropped on the floor when handled during a polio-spasm. Livers are a particularly tricky investment, and i had three appointments for this which i had to cancel on account of my current condition. Dare i blink while typing or i might suffer a massive aneurism and die face-down on the keyboard with a big splatter of blood and brain-tissue all over the monitor. i know it sounds odd, but the proof is etchasketchable if anyone's interested. i am still on my crusade though, with helping people to overcome Finnicky Functions and resume their normal lives as proud micturators of the natural sort.
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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*KaTiE* i agree with you.....I love theSTART! and have seen them like, 9-12 times....I have traveled far to see them and they are well worth it! jen jen how is dublin?;sorry to hear about the mum. HuGs and KiSsEs!
erika
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*KaTiE* i agree with you.....I love theSTART! and have seen the like 9-12 times....i have traveled far to see them and they are well worth it! jen jen how is dublin?;sorry to hear about the mum. HuGs and KiSsEs!
erika
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jeezus you go away for a couple of weeks and miss a hell of a lot! i've been to dublin visiting family cos my uncles mum just died and i get back and theres loads of stuff on here to read! but...hey hope you are all ok! and having lots of fun!!!! love from me xxxx
jen jen
manchester, uk -

little message to kt: get up and dance!
kate
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you know, thinking about it... we L.A. kids are soo lucky! i've seen theSTART 5-8 times (i can't remember the exact amount) and My Ruin a bunch...some people have never seen these bands live. we have the best local music in general. i am a very happy bunny. are you?
*katie* <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

i am losing itmyfriends. toolittle stimulation and an abundant and ceaseless source or marijuana and red wine are not making this any easier
kt
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When are you guys gonna play in Kentucky? My girlfriend lives there, and seen as you never play in England, i'd rather one of us saw the wonder that is theSTART. Cheers dude. Fray.
Fray <Ebow316@aol.com>
UK -

hey guys...i graduated from high school the other day!!!! I finally made it! Just had to share my incredible bliss with you all...kisses to all
Chris
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jil, the first 400 people who came will be in the video.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

RYAN- can anyone go to the sum41 shoot????? i LOVElovelove them! do you know what song its for and do you have any other information?? thanks!
jil <hxc@ureach.com>
apple valley, -

that's cool leo, what seats did you get? I'm going to see them in the arrowheard pond of anaheim in august...i can't wait...i'm so excited!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

I just downloaded some tracks from "Shakedown" of Napster. I believe in Napster is it is used in the right way. If you love the music support the artist by buying it. And I was going to buy shakedown anyway but now I am even more excited. The songs are brilliant. I won't download all of them because I still want some surprises when I buy the cd. But everybody go out and buy it when it is released. This is what I have been looking for in a band for years now. It is nothing short of perfect. I love The Start, I still can't drive down to see them with Sugar Ray and Uncle Cracker (ahhhhh!) but I will drive down to see them when the are on their own or a better bill. By the way, I drove down to see Depeche Mode the other night in St. Paul and they were incredible live, one of the best shows if not the best show I have ever been to. The band was in top form and the crowd was fantastic.
Leo Alberti <neonagain>
Bemidji, MN 56601 -

don't like the galaxy, will never return!!!
maria
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yay I'm going to see Spineshank in the galaxy theatre on june 7th :) anyone else going??
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

hey, when are you guys gonna release gorgeous to the stores? Let me know so i can make the singles buyer get a bunch. much love!
natalie
ny -

"One! somethings got ta give! Two! Something's got ta give! Three! Something's got to give! Fo!...UmgRrHG! Let the Bodies Hit the Flo! Let the Bodies hit the FLO! let the bodies' hit the FLO! Hmmmmm!"...........*sigh*...i wonder whether or not it's a good idea for these guys to get all tattooed and pierced. they might need something to fall back on someday...but somehting tells me goddammit that we'll be seeing those guys in about fifteen years on a VH1 special, and they'll be like Sebastian Bach, who, for some nebulous reason, still manages to get slots on Mtv's Cribs and various other commentary positions on VH1 hairband wherearetheynow's. They'll be bald and wrinkled, but still rockin' the leather pants, and still frantically trying to bring attention to their new solo project.
kidneythief
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I heard "gorgeous" on the radio today. I was uber excited. I was in my car and it came on I was all like "Rawk on." Just thought I'd share.. It's the first I've heard of it being played here in the good ole' midwest. <3 Jae
Jae <FrostedWings@aol.com>
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Your leaving me lex? call before you leave....bye AiMeE iS a QuEeN!
erika
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Just wanted to say I'll talk to ya'll in about two weeks! I am going to Italy! Eating romantic food and promoting theSTART are my two top things on my to-do list! I made some lil stickers of my own, and I shall make some signs while on the plain! I am gonna take pics, and I will post em on here as soon as I can! I will talk to everybody soon! Hopefully, theSTART wont play any warm up shows, etc. while I am gone, or I will be sad. Are-I-Vuaw! <~~I am like, as french as a piece of sushi, so let that one slide.
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
Tustin, CA USA -

Hey everyone. nifty touch-up. you guys have all the fun in california, huh? goin to video shoots and seein bands that never play here (the start...my ruin among others). i just got my warped tour tix yesterday, i kinda forget why im going now. probably for rancid & the*ataris, i forget who else is there. ehh, enough of this ranting. love to all
natalie
yonkers, ny -

Just to let all you Start fans know....I just went to target and almost had a heart attack when I saw a cd with theStart on it......It's called "Warped are they now?" which is actually kind of funny cause the Start isn't on the Warped tour......hehe....anyway....It's got Gorgeous on it....it's only 6.99....and that song is the only reason I bought it!!!!!!I needed my Start fix!!!!!!!!!!!
Cory <caco0690@hotmail.com>
Fort Worth, TX -

i just got my pictures back and im really excited. its sad, though. the two i was hoping would come out are missing (hmmmm...)! i'll be putting them up for all to see soon.
KATIE <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

Wow another facelift for the site huh? Well me and my friend are going if you want to go Ellen.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

...
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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puke - it isn't all that morbid. death is a weird yet fascinating thing. to go thru it is a strange experience. if you were dying and you thought about all the things you will miss all the things your life is about. you suddenly don't take life for granted anymore. like so many of us do or have. it's fucked up. i don't think any other words can describe it but those ones. it's just fucked up.
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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thanks maria for those pictures....it sure did look like a lot of fun to be there. I'll try to go to that video shoot Ryan, but I have no ride as usual....most likely I won't go though.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

The Start, play Reading 2001 in the uk this, think about it, how cool would that be.
James Le Huray <dope@horneytoad.freeserve.co.uk>
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I totally agree with Katie....it's nice just to be able to have fun and dance around a little bit....:) xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
AMANDA <spookyw0rmybaby@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

just to comment on the comment "it is so nice to meet someone who has a GRIP"...it is so true. hollywood needs a little positivity already, a break away from being in love with being so jaded. aimee, you have given that break. i was forgetting how to dance for a minute there...
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

its at the City Of Industry Sheraton in the City of Industry- June 24th @10am. Should be fun. Let me know. Anyone going to the medication show on Wed night?
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

hey i realized my link didn't work. here are my pics again www.mikehyde.com/thestart.htm
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

yeah i heard about it ryan....i had the flyer but i lost it....where's the video shoot at?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Yeah if your up to it Sum 41 is having a music video shoot on the 24th that I am going to if you are up to it... same kind of crowd. Let me know. Halfcocked is cool- can't wait for the album!!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

AiMeE iS a QuEeN!
erika
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SHAKEDOWN!!! The Start kept me going through the Halfcocked tour with Skrape and Godhead. I LOVE THIS BAND!!! Sarah (our vocalist) had the chance to hang with Aimee recently...Sarah came back raving how wonderful it was to meet someone "that had a grip"... I just want to support them as much as I can and I really hope that everyone takes a close listen to a beautiful record that has really made an impression on me (and made touring without my wife easier, because I listened to "Nemesis" every day for my fucking ROCK QUOTA!!!). In short - THE START is absolutely THE SHIT ! ! ! Best of luck, kids, and I'm rooting for ya!!!! Love, Charlee Johnsson and the Halfcocked kids!!!!!!!!
Charlee <halfcocked@totaldeath.com>
North Hollywood, CA 91605 -

death is certainly frightening, but just about as equally as life. a necessary "evil" in this world of duality. when i was in high school a couple of boys and a girl from a semi-neighboring school died in a car accident coming back from a rave. i had no idea who they were and, when i saw their pictures in the school news paper, i couldnt remember if i had even seen them on campus. we had a funeral thing and people made little stickers with the jersey number of one of the guys (he was on the football team) and stuck them on their cars and notebooks. i found it odd that they didnt do anything like that for the other one. he didnt play sports i guess. it made me wonder if he was somehow considered less important because of that. some people suspected they were "high on drugs" coming back from the rave and that's what caused the accident. others insisted that it was the other car's fault and even tried to reinact the turn of events using pieces of paper on a desk to signify cars on a mountain road. in a way death and birth are one in the same and, in another, one is more important. you dont remember your birth. your parents could tell you that you were born anywhere at just about any time and you'd never know better. death is the one finality in life that you will actually get the chance to experience with a (somewhat) mature mind. lots of people say that they want to die quickly or die in their sleep or die when they least expect it. for what reason, i'm not certain. all i can say is, when i die, i want to be able to experience it for everything it is. i want to know what it's like to fade into oblivion. to feel it and be completely aware that i am dying. some might call that morbid. i just think that my last life experience should be enjoyed and appreciated, since i dint get to do so with my first.
~sir puke~
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yeah ryan those blink fans are really cool. When I got there I was just by myself then I met these girls next to me who were really nice and i got to hang out with them for the next couple of hours....they bought candy and they let me use their cell phone..and we went out to eat afterwards...so yeah the fans are really sweet :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

on friday at around one pm, a bright red pickup truck carrying three teenagers ran a stop sign and collided with an 87 year old woman on Ranch Road 12 in Dripping Springs. the truck flipped over several times, ejecting the two passengers 35 feet through the air before coming to a rest in the middle of the two-lane road, with the driver still in the car. The old woman wasn't hurt. the driver's head is being stitched together in intensive care and one of the thrown kids is being patched up in recovery right now. Death is an extremely tricky thing to come to grips with in a small town where you know everybody and everybody knows you. Was he a friend of mine? a lot of them ask. This, my friends, is hard to answer---how well do you know somebody you've attended school with for six years of your life, without them being a best friend of yours? Their not strangers, you see them every damn day, know their names and their lives. I knew for instance, that his parents were on the fire department and were probably called to the scene. It chills the bones, my friends, to wonder what exactly they got a chance to see before their son was air-lifted to Seaton Southwest. Every summer this happens in Dripping Springs. Last year, it was Travis Riddle and James Kendall on highway 290. Before that, Brian Vandergriff on 281. Before that, Emily Hubbard died also on Ranch Road twelve. This summer has claimed its presence among the fresh crop of bodies that occupy the walls of that school, and hopefully, this will be the last by the time i graduate. Matthew Stephenson, 83-01.
kt
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What?
Alex Peterson <MetalRulesOn@aol.com>
Dubuque, IA USA -

Fray - What club was that at?
Mikey <sober@eidosnet.co.uk>
UK -

Hey Ellen-- but the Blink kids are soo nice though sometimes. But theSTART fans are still nicer heh heh... we should hang out at the mall or sometimes. Just let me know when you are free or we can go to a show. This band called Medication is playing on Wed night they are really good.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

Napalm Death was AWESOME last nite!!! Don't you agree, Lexx?
Chris
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yeah we should hang out ryan....i use to live in anaheim in the same zip code area too...i don't know why we didn't hang out then.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Ryan-I didn't have wristbands so i met them around 8:00...I was wearing a white orgy shirt but i bet you didn't see me...yeah they were cool, I'm thinking about selling my autographs on ebay lol....so i stayed until they left at 9:00 in a limo...yeah it was cool, I met a bunch of crazy blink 182 freaks...scary.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, -

Just wanted to say Hi! I ***REALLY REALLY REALLY*** hope you guys (TheStart) come to play in the UK, Love your new stuff! It's great! Keep it up! Saw you (Aimee and scott) in Human waste project in portsmouth, UK a while back when you supported My Ruin! So energetic! and totally blew me away with you performance back then! I really hope you come here again to blow me away with another stunning performance! Good Luck! Phil
Phil <Phil.noad@ntlworld.com>
Gosport, United Kingdom -

why don't u ever play england ? :( is there ne plans for a tour ? no1 over here has heard of u :(
bubblegumfairy <bublegumfairy666@yahoo.co.uk>
England -

What is wrong with English DJ's ??? I was out last night and i requested theSTART ... any song, i just wanted to dance. The stupid DJ said "right" and played a F*CKIN dance tune ?!?!?!? .... please fly me over there with you so i can appreciate some good tune ...
Fray <Ebow316@aol.com>
UK -

Ellen! I met them too- I had wristbands so they shoved us in a priority line so we were out of there by 7:30- it was fun though huh? Since you live so close we should hang out sometime.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

I just got back from meeting blink 182....I just got their autographs...they didn't allow pictures..ryan where were you? I just went to see them for the heck of it, i waited like 5 hours to see em cause i was really bored now that i don't have school.....in line i met some cool girls and i showed them thestart pictures and we all ate out at togos...it was a cool day :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

i love this little community we've built, don't you all? P.S. i'm getting my pics developed today, so i'll post them as soon as i can. i took a roll and a half, so i hope they're good!
katie <deadsychick@yahoo.com>
los angeles, -

Howdy yall. Its me the guy with lots of make up on... Did I really have too much on? When you think of it, its more like war paint. That black stuff was war paint, no joke. Well I just got this very very very late package in the mail from the Start. I was supposed to pass stickers out and itty bitty flyers at clubs and what nots. Well I have 22 NEW start stickers. There nice and cherry red *mmmm* And I've got a few itty flyers. If anyone wants one, e-mail me and I'll send one over to your place. I would mail you the whole grip, but that wouldn't be fair to anyone else that might want one. *disco nights are over now, was it love or was it chemical.. fascination is so dreadful you run, you run so slow,you run alone, you know I'm not dead, I'm just the tears in side your head. forever waiting*
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

hey, here are some of my pics, only one of amiee came out, a couple are blurry but the ones of scott and jeff and jamie came out great. click my name for them
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

For the record, i too am a fan of destiny's child. Actually yesterday i was messin around on my piano (i just play by ear) and figured out that i can play jumpin jumpin. hahaha :o)
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
yonkers, ny -

um-- I don't know what I am going to wear yet Ellen-- how bout I wear my theSTART shirt tomorrow and you can look for me lol- hope to see you there-- were you there Monday night for wristbands? I am one of those people that can't sell autographs or anything on Ebay-- I dont' know why-- I just think that is supposed to be some sort of personal item that your not supposed to sell-- call me stupid if you must...
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

You know, I just realize something. I don't know why the hell I just put Pittsburgh can suck it, cause the 76rs are from Philadelphia. I was thinking about Pittsburgh earlier today. Hmmmm, maybe it just stuck in my mind. Sorry about that.
Alex
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All ya'll in Pittsburgh can SUCK IT! Lakers owned tonight. I loved it. What I did miss tho was Sugar Ray at half time. Well, I wouldn't exactly say I "missed" it...ha ha ha. Funny, no one else is laughin...anyway, Katie must be new cause she would be VERY suprised if she found how many of us are Destney's Child fans. Anywho, I am not a fan of Blink 182 or anything, and I wont be going to that sighing, but I say anyone who can go should, cause if you do get something signed, that's a birthday present for someone that you don't need to worry about. Or is you are ever in a tight squeeze, put it on EBay. Anyway, anyone been to any good shows lately? Other than the video shoot?
Alex
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hey ryan i might go to that blink-182 signing here in costa mesa....i have to get my friend autographs for them.....so tell me what your gonna wear so i can meet up with you :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

hell if you like Destiny's Child more power to ya- don't limit yourself to anything-
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

y'all have no idea how much comfort it brings to know i'm not the only hardcore chick who like destineys child. anyone see them at halftime on wednesday?
katie <trixxi14@yahoo.com>
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i figure the video should be out relatively soon, considering the way marketing is done in the music business. singles are usually released long before the cd, then a video comes before or very near after the cd is released. its coming out on the 24th, so it should be soon (i hope!!!). videos dont take that long to edit, either. *katie*
katie <trixxi14@aol.com>
los angeles, -

so, when and where will be able to see our lovely selves...? is it gonna be on mtv2 or something...? and does anyone know how long before it airs...? ahhh I'm anxious heheh.....ahhh I graduated yesterday :)
Kim <kaliequeen@sickbeatzpromotions.com>
san diego, ca -

Yay I got a new computer today-- I'm sorry to hear about your diablo child incident with Damien. Erika I didn't see you at the video shoot did you go? Everyone around here is screaming at the Lakers game for the love of it-- when will the madness end and everyone take off those goofy flags off of their cars? We'll I guess its ok if your into it- I get to meet Blink 182 tomorrow!!! Anyone else going to that? Hey there are Destiny's Child peeps on here so I know there are more like me somewhere.... love ya all.
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

By the way, GO LAKERS!!!!
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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I didn't go cause my ride flaked out on me..listen to this drama...i found out 3rd period that she wasn't taking us, so we attepmpted to find another ride. Her 22-yr old brother said he'd take us. His baby girl was in the backseat. She was sick and screaming her head off, throwing up and crap.So there we are, about halfway to LA, and all of us are going crazy from this child's incessant screaming. She starts throwing up a mixture of Pedialyte and mucus (and was choking on it also), and we had no choice but to turn back. There. Demon child. But hey I finally picked up those pics from the Chain show and they came out really good. I'll scan them in soon. Oh, and the article I wrote was printed. I'll scan that in too. Peace.
Chris <FluxDiabl9o@aol.com>
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AiMeE iS a QuEeN!
erika
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I remember the same dude with the makeup on singing Brittany Spears singing Twisted Sister and everyone started singing that was funny. hee hee
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -

Actually that guy who had on makeup didn't sing Baby One more time. haha.. he was singing Opps I did it again.. I was quietly feeding him some of the words. lol. Hey Chris.. do you want me to mail you a copy of the CD? My mom got one too, she gave it to me. If you do e-mail. I'll send it right over. Tomorrow is last day of school!!! Looking forward to ozzfest this year!! You all have to check out Beautiful Creatures on 2nd Stage!!! emi32585@aol.com
Emily
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I don't think you'll get in trouble for that graphic-- you might if you sell it for 1000 dollars each... people were singing destiny's child? I remember some girls singing the ichi gichi ya ya ya song inside and some guy with a lot of makeup was singing hit me baby one more time-- I know they didn't treat us like extras-- its was a great experience plus we were all having such a schweaty time that the time flew by it twas excellent!!
Ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca 92804 -

hey chris, the cds we got were the gorgeous cd singles. not the whole album. you should of went! why didn't you go?
tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
canyon country, ca -

i don't know how many of you have been extras for anything before, but i just wanted to thank theSTART for NOT treating us like extras. i haven't had that much fun at a concert even.
tangerine
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you guys were a blast at the shoot! usually when me and sarah sing in public we get stared at! y'all joined in! you guys were too much fun. and i am so glad you knew the words to bootylicious, lindsey! we all need to do something, especially the people who's names i don't remeber (sorry!) e-mail e-mail e-mail! me, that is. *katie*
katie <trixxi14@yahoo.com>
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By the way did anyone at the shoot get the promised cds? If so, what are they? The album? What were the refreshments?
Chris
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You guys sang Destiny's Child and I wasn't there?? Pssh. That's my band, fools. You know, for some reason, even though I had to miss the video shoot and all, it's not even bothering me one bit. Strange. I thought I'd be really upset. It's all good...Oh by the way everyone try and get to the Napalm Death show at the Galaxy in Santa Ana..it's gonna be SICK. Cephalic Carnage and Soilent Green are there too. Some crazy metal massacre shit WILL go down.
Chris
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I'm glad you guys had fun! It sounds like everyone had an amazing time.

Just to cheer myself up I'm makeing this graphic of Aimee to iron onto this white t,Do you think I'd get in trouble?
Jeannie <jeanniejermain@music.com>
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Human Waste Project reunion oh my god...how awesome!
erika
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what is wrong with me i'm still sad about this. I guess I'll never get over it :(
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

ok so....your all bastards for going to the video shoot...but i'll get over it and it sounds like you all had fun!!
malcolm...phone me when you get home havent heard from you in ages....so yeah

reunion????? OMG!!!!! when where how why??????
jen jen
manchester, uk -

ok, so i definitely bought one ticket to the sugar ray show in new york... definitely paid thirty bucks for it. my receipt says thirty bucks. i definitely got four tickets in the mail... wow. hm. i want a video shoot.
stefanie
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sounds like the shoot was a blast! i hope the next video is in NY or something (hint hint)
natalie
ny -

K.T. - You're clinically insane.

Don't ever change. :o)
Metal Malcolm
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kt <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
USA -

Thanks for filling me in Puke.

If it happens, I'm coming over there. That's the end of the story. I don't care how much I have to pay, i'll be there. Got that? Good. :) i'm just bummed I missed Electra Live.....
Metal Malcolm
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in the down time between takes the band would play little ditties. some their own and some from other bands. on top of playing a few snot riffs jamie also started playing electra. the whole crowd (well, everyone who knew the words, which was a good majority) began to sing the words. aimee chimed in and then scott got behind the drums and i did the lead guitar parts. not on a guitar or anything, though. after it was over aimee asked if we'd like to see a reunion and the place just exploded. she responded "okay, i'll talk to the guys," and that was that. keep your fingers crossed!
~sir puke~
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I remember singing Lady Marmalade outside!
Emily
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I loved singing *NSync and Destiny's Child with everyone during the outside shoot! Just had to add that...
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

i had more fun last night than i have in the last year. and i am still in shock about how amazingly cool the band is thanx aimee for the pictures, and thanx the start for the whole video experiance. it was great
i have no name
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Okay, i've had a bad night, and i'm tired, but and I hope youall had a great ime at the shoot.
Now,
What's this about an HWP reunion show?

AAAAAAAAR%GGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Details damnit!
Metal Malcolm <metalmalcolm@hotmail.com>
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How are all the heretics doing after such a hot, sweaty, exciting, and all around kick ass time?!! I just wanted to say much thanks to the band who continuously go out of their way for all the fans. My friend is doing fine, she was the little star of the evenning. Just like in that live Deftones song "Bored,"when Chino stopped in the middle of the song for... "the little boy who lost his shoe. and got to stage dive." For Tina, we got the golden ticket!! see all of you soon. ~Jenn
Jennifer <savory921@hotmail.com >
Palmdale , CA -

Hey this is Roxanna, the one with the bump on top. For the record, I'm doing a lot better! I thought I was a super hero last night but when the double vision left me I knew I'd be fine. ;) See you at the show... for those that are going. For those who can't make it, I'll see you on my friend's TV on M2.
roxanna <classic_roxie@yahoo.com >
Palmdale , CA -

Now, I just got done watching Destiny's Child do the halftime show on the Playoffs.....wow. I mean, I liked em before, but hot damn...here I come Verizon Wireless on 9-02-01. I am gettin front row tickets to that show! Boy oh boy, I'm all warm!
Alex
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Many moons ago I was living in a dingy 20 x 20 rehearsal room in downtown LA. One night while I was returning from my cowboy shower (from a sink in the rest room) I heard an Angel's voice echoing in the hallways. I followed the voice & it led me to Human Waste Project. I stood on the other side of the door & quietly listened. It was warm & comforting... I sighed & thought to myself... "there is hope in the land of Addias Rock... this will be huge." Fast forward to 1999 & I'm in a recording studio (same facility) tracking songs with this Wannabe-Producer-Studio-Hustler. After hours of arguing we took a break, he turns me on to a demo that he's been working on - HERO. I can't begin to describe the chills that I received the moment I heard that long lost Angels voice - the music swirled around my head, so pure, so sweat... sonic ecstasy. Time flies people come & go - music changes. 2001 & I find myself playing hooky from the daily riggers waiting in front of the Whiskey, with people that have also been touched by the sounds. Invited to take part in the creation of the "Gorgeous" chronicle. What a beautiful day it was for me... knowing that I don't have to shower out of a sink anymore... knowing that I was there at TheStart... knowing that soon the whole world will share in the joy that we've all experienced. It's time... this will be huge. Amor y Pas...
Armando Vega <armando@psychicmafia.com>
Fullerton, CA USA -

dude after reading all these things i'm crying right now....i can't believed i missed this great opportunity :(
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

I had a blast at the video shoot!!! Everybody was super nice and awesome!!! All of you rock!!! My mom enjoyed the video shoot too. hehe.. later
~Emily
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No prob for the toilet paper! I know what you mean about not knowing what to say on camera-- I think I did a good 2 or 3 mins of babbling- my friends said it wasn't too bad though-- we'll see if it gets cut or not! Congrats on getting the golden ticks!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca USA -

yesterday was the best day ever. everyone looked so good and we had alot of fun. although my friend got hit in the head with a light. she was fine when we went out to eat last night. i hope she feels better! ryan, thanks for the toilet paper. and the hwp song was great. i will definatly go if there was a reunion! my legs hurt so much though. anyone else in pain. it was worth it though. oh i got a golden ticket!!! yay!! so did my friend, so it looks like my whole group will be able to go to the show! see you guys there!
tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
canyon country, ca -

the shoot was obviously hot and time consuming but i have to say a major thank you to the band for even letting us participating in something so amazing! THANK YOU! you have an appreciation for fans (as much as they have for you) that is lacking in a lot of bands these days and so your personalities are beyond refreshing right now ;) hugs to everyone there and here. ps. omar...my god. you're so cute.
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Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!! The video shoot....was...FUN! Hot and sweaty, but fun! That one guy with the camera....y'know, I guess it was the bands personal camera or something....he just wanted to tape the living bejesus out of me! He's likw....c'mon, I KNOW you have something else to say to the band. I know you do. So I had no choice but to be on that video about 298371987312 times. Ahh. Oh well. I love the signed picture we got....and the CD is cute as it can be. With Aimee on it. Awww. And you all looked so god damn AMAZING! Thanx for saying you liked my hair, Aimee. But YOUR hair was beautiful! So what are you talkin about girl!?! And I can NOT BELIEVE you sang Electra! I was sooooo fucking excited. My friend got to sing the whole song..it was the cutest. Can't wait for that HWP reunion...ahh. Tehe. Well, I <3 you muchly everyone. But my feet STILL hurt from the shoot. Ahhh. Byeeeeee.
Lindsay <KandyRaz0r@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

Aaaww last nite the video shoot was sooooo fun!!!! All the sweat and stuff was out of goodness!!! LOL. Swinging cameras are scary. Ha ha ha ha I hope at least my head gets into the video!!! LOL. And Eno aaawww... See you all at Sugar Ray hopefully and congratulations to the ones who won the Golden Tickets to the show.
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -

I thought it was funny when I stold a roll of toilet paper from the bathroom and we all used it to wipe away our sweat... then the director guys was like what the hell is all this when the moved the middle amp from the stage and all this sweaty toilet paper was there and all over the floor-- you guys rock I had fun with you- I hope you all had a great time.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

The video shoot last night was the shit!!! Amiee, you looked amazing as usual and thanx for giving me the opportunity to sing to you, eventhough my voice it terrible lol. Everyone was so cool last night and seeing theSTART for 5 hours was cool as fuck. I can't wait till your next show so my friends and I may dance freely with you all once again.
Jackie <FragileXBass@aol.com>
Burbank, -

Last night was great,I had such a good time.I got to see how a music video was shot, I got to see my favorite band for about five hours and even got a signed picture.Life is good.Life is grand.Life is gorgeous. *thePROFESSOR*
The Professor <DIGITAL_BOY_7478@HOTMAIL.COM>
L.A., -

The shoot was freggin awesome! Everyone rocked and damn nearly blew the roof off. Thank you everyone for the great time. Sorry about the Britney Spears song we tried singing, but we figured if you didn't know Twisted Sister then... Crap, I thought I was the only one that went home and listend to the gorgeous single. I guess four hours wasn't enough, add the hour drive on the 101 back home. *sings* Jump up and down in my blue suede shoes, hey kids rock'n'roll. Rock on! Rock on!
Omar A. Morales <FashionVictum@hotmail.com>
Westminster, CA USA -

theSTART video shoot was soo much fun! I don't think we actually got in until 5:30 or something..and then it wasn't over until almost 10. Here are definitely some of the night's highlights.....1. The Voice of GOD....2. Jaimie's shirt, aimee's dress, jeff's tattoo, and scott just being himself....3. SCHWEATY (ha that sums up the whole night there)...4. A little HWP...that was really nice.. :) 5. The magical blow dryer....6. Seeing ENO...OH and 7. When I asked that guy if I could have the glass Aimee wrote on and he said "You really want it?" and I was like, "UH yeah" and then he said, "oh well sorry..you can't have it." and then just walked away...hmm um did someone say asshole? ....heh but anyways.......It was an AMAZING night...yay! I give a big thank you to theSTART..I can't wait until the video comes out! xoxoxoxxoxoxo
AMANDA <spookyw0rmybaby@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

For the record, everyone of you were fantastically beautiful this evening especially those in spirit form... You are all individually perfect, perfect and gorgeous. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your patience, enthusiasm and tolerance of falling objects. We are very pleased.
echo
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The video shoot was so cool tonight!! Aimee:: u are such a sweet person.. I've never met anyone as nice as you. Everytime my friends and I have met you, you've always been so energetic and always taken pictures with us.. yur so nice and I only wish good things for you and the band..... I really like the song Gorgeous too! It's really catchy and different!! I enjoyed the video and I am so looking forward to seeing how it turned out! As for the rest of the Start fans::: U guys are all awesome and I'm glad I got to meet some new people tonight... take care, rest up and get ready for the sugar ray tour!!!! rock on! *Ariane*
Ariane <roxychick@rocketmail.com>
Highland, CA USA -

Well.. I haven't been here for a couple months now... how are you people doing?? ... Anyways, I found a little comp. for 6.99 @ target with theSTART up on it.. the song "gorgeous". It sounds quite different than the demo version, but still very good. I've also saw an article about theStart show @ the galaxy that happened a long ass time ago.. the guy had the nerve to mock theSTART and Aimee. So send hate mail to SKRATCH Magazine(just add .com for website)// Anyways, you people take care and I'll try and go to the next srtart show in my area... the key word is try.. I have found out how damn hard it is to record a freakin' cd. And me and my fellow people are having buffs, so its really been suckin'.. anyways, catch you people later, late. Mass Respect & Love,
Charles J. Mounce <human_tecato@yahoo.com>
Anaheim, CA USA -

phew! I'm glad to be home! 2 hour drives are always worth it if I get to see theSTART perform..geez the video shoot was sooooo much fun!! I was glad to see so many people there! Of course I saw famillar faces..which is always nice. I hope the girl who got hit with the light is okie :/ ...Amiee looked so beautiful! and OO didn't Jamie, Scott and Jeff look damn attractive! wow what a night! I had so much fun! Thank you guys for inviting us fans down!! this was an experience I will never forget!! btw, where will we be able to veiw the finished product heheeh
Kim <kaliequeen@sickbeatzpromotions.com>
encinitas(san diego), ca -

ahhh.. all i can say is it was soooooooooooooo much fun! :) and if that hwp reunion happens. i will cry! lol! aimee, thumbs up on the ties. make them! :)
Jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
los angeles, -

oh yeah they covered a HWP song Electra--- you don't have to even ask you know most of us will be there for the HWP reunion show!! We love you!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

the video shoot was awesome! Congrats to those who got the golden tickets. Sometimes there were scary points and I hope the girl that the lights fell on is ok, but I think we all had a great time and can't wait to see the outcome!!! theSTART rooocccckkks and I had a great time thanks for having us!
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

Omg, I have been home for like 30 minutes listening to Gorgeous, like just after spending some 3-5 hours listening to the same song and participating in the video, for it at the whisky. I haven only known about The Start for like 6 months and listened to the 4 demo songs they have out, and I've been captivated by them. Just...enchanting. lol. Its true. With tonight, I seriously would go to a concert with them or buy tickets to see them in concert. I just gotta say..Aimee..you are I mean one of the nicest people I have met. You made my night..thanks...I doubt you'll read this or respond...but thanks...doubt you even remember me..kid with the gray overcoat and ballchain..lol thats sad. Anyways...Thanks Aimee. Thank you The Start. Goodluck to you all on your journey as a band. I bid thee all fairwell. *Jon*
Jonathan Labez <redquail@aol.com>
Los Angeles, CA -

Ellen I am so sorry. It was so not my fault..just flakey people's fault. Call me.
Chris
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Alright, I went to the video shoot today.....but, it is 7:53 right now. Now, to the best of my knowledge, the video shoot is still going on. I got to the Whisky at about 1:45, and we got to watch Aimee spray painting theSTART logo onto a big piece of paper. Now, after that, we were told to wait outside. We waited out there till about 5, and then I had to take off. Maybe some of the others who waited around for the whole thing would have a better review of what actually happened, but I was sad because I thought we would have been done by 6. Anywho, the stage looked awesome, but I didn't even get to see em perform! :(
Alex
Tustin, CA USA -

all this talk about the video shoot. i was however finding a nice laugh in puke's post. anyhow...i dunno on what i'm saying. i'm liking the new layout and stuff. it's kewl. well that's enough outta me. take care kids. hello's to those of you i know and luv. you know who you are.
-amanda
hypnaughtika <hypnaughtika@yahoo.com>
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hmm..well..just bought a promo copy of Shakedown off of ebay..cant wait for it to arrive..*sorry! cant wait for the actual cd...but i will be pickin that up too!* is flying machine not on it?!?!?...is anyone on the east,aka-deprived of video shoot, coast going to the hammerstein show?
sage <kidneythieve@aol.com>
nyc, -

Everyone is gonna be dressed so darn spiffy for the shoot. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS LOTS & LOTS & LOTS OF FUN! shakedown! this is just one of those things ill be there in spirit for. snoochie boochies,
natalie
ny -

I wondered what You were on about for a second there Kidneytheif...
Metal Malcolm
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Oh yeah, Virtue.nu is down for the moment so my overly hyper moment of inspiration was interuppted . . . I'd still very much like some reviews or opinions still . . . maybe of the video shoot?
Jeannie
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Me too . . . only I'll be naked, naked NAKED!!

If I were to go though I'd be weearing clothes . . . My Pink Spice Girls t-shirt is I had one.
Jeannie <jeanniejermain@music.com>
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i will be wearing one of those pink shades of blue and a whole lotta mauve, with a fiery orange plume of feathers sprouting from atop my marcus garvey-style hat. ducktail tux maybe, with those fantastic long flowing tails that float on little floor level breezes when i walk. a bright glass-blown cane containing the blood of a nebraska goat within the stockpiece and a handle carved into the mighty skull of caesar, with which i will weild with impeccable precision! i will adorn my jacket with buttons and emblems of long-ago gods who taught the values of performance art (YOU may call it vandalism, whatever suits your fancy) unto me and my peers as children. i shall stride confidently to the venue saddled royally atop the lone hump of the mighty Texas camel, bejeweled with the teeth i have collected on my frequent nights out dressed as a certain figment. I will walk with shoes of solid rubidium with laces of incandescently lit silk. i trust i might wear my very special pants, the one of a kind pair of which i am so fond, the highwatering leather trousers i hand stitched, harvested from the thick pink hides of the rival clans we down here in Texas have been raised to cannibalize on sight. Infra-Red contact lenses, Ultra-violet hair-dye, and i will be all set. As you might have guessed i will be attending solely in spirit, not in body...
kidneythief
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okay i feel better now that i have vented out....it's just that i'm so stressed with school and everything else....this week is so hectic...well to everyone who's going....make sure you tell me all about it :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, -

ugh...i am so pissed now.....i'm not going to the video shoot....i knew this would happen....don't worry chris, i'm not mad at you or your friends...it's just that i spent all my time planning everything out and missing out on school and end up not going....what a huge waste of time for me...i was really looking forward to it...and i told everybody i was gonna go....i just hate it that good things never happen to me..it's like i'm cursed or something....chris, i'm not angry at you, i feel bad that you couldn't go either...but if you i'd be majorely pissed lol.....i'm just angry that things never turn out the way it's planned.
ellen <FiendFemme>
costa mesa, ca -

First my PC doesn't work for ages, due to being shit, then when I finally get it fixed, my friend spills beer all over the keyboard so I can't type anything.
So this is a quick message to say I ain't gonna be able to chat much from now coz I go home on friday. I'll stay in touch, and I will visit, just not as much as I've done this year. I don't believe it, the end of a year at uni. It feels so strange....
Anyway, all of you have fun at the video shoot, y'hear? Enjoy, and I hope to see some clips soon.
Yours Sincerely.

Metal Malcolm :)
Metal Malcolm
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i was just making sure everything is still happening for today..hmm im not sure what im wearing, i'll be there thats all that matters. Someone should take like a class picture of all us heretics. well see ya all there peace! SHAKEDOWN!
Angela <onestaralone@yahoo.com>
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bronagh, i try and post here as often as i can and i still have no idea whats going on! and i don't have stickers either!

y'all have fun at video shoot y'hear!!!! xoxoxoxox
jen jen
manchester, uk -

I can't find my tie...*rummage rummage* dammit! :( Does anyone know if this thing happens EXACTLY at 4?? Because my friend doesn't get out of school until 3:16...she lives in Northridge...and then she is coming to get me in Burbank..and then we are going to HAUL ASS to Hollywood...heh, think we can make it in time??? See all you lovelies there! xoxoxoxxoxoxox
AMANDA <SPOOKYW0RMYBABY@AOL.COM>
BURBANK, CA -

you guys better have a good time! i know you will...i really need to post on here more often...not like anyone pays attetnion to me anyway...but i just like being aprt of all this.......
Dean
MD -

Anybody going naked? Just wondering hahaha...don't be shy now!
Emily
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Tomorrow I'm gonna have on a short black dress, black stockings with this weird ass design on, platform mary janes, makeup, my jewelry, and my hair is this nasty ass color of brown meets maroon meets red in pig tails and I wear these really cool nerdy prescription glasses!!!! Aighty I see you all tomorrow!!! MWAH!!!
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -

Um..I think i'll be wearing a see-thru black button down shirt with a tie and shiny pants with a studded belt that says ROCK..and my hair is black with pink on the top and that's about it. I'll be with Ellen and a girl with curly red hair and a girl with brown hair.
Chris
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i'll be wearing a green sequin polo shirt with black sweat pants and a pair of pumps, a hat with a big shark fin on it that says "i love aimee" on the side of it, and a toilet plunger on each ear. hope to talk to all of you!
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I am going to wear black pants and a white buttoned down shirt with a tie...and orgyish shoes. hopefully it won't be too hard for you guys to find me.
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Are you all going to get there at three thirty? or four? Don't we have to wait in line or something??? Umm... I am coming from Arcadia. Maybe there is at least an hour of traffic through downtown as always. I hate traffic Oh... hope to see everybody there! My hair is half black half pink. I am Chinese.. very easy to find. 'night ~Emily
Emily
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OMG!!! i have less than a quater tank, and no money...I NEED GAS MONEY TO GET TO THE WHISKY!!!!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

HELLO ALL!!! OK, I'M GOING WITH MY BOYFRIEND. i'LL BE WEARING FITTING RED PANTS ROLLED TO MY CALF WITH BLACK PLATFORMS THAT HAVE A LEOPERD PRINT STRAP ACROSS THE FRONT. A LEOPERD PRINT BELT AND MAYBE A BLACK "SATAN IS MY BITCH" TOP. MY HAIR WILL BE TIED UP SOMEHOW WITH TWO BRAIDS IN THE FRONT. MY HAIRS GOT TWO STREAKS OF BLOND AND THE ENDS ARE PURPLE. MY BOYFRIEND WILL BE WEARING STEELTOES AND HAS LONG DARK BROWN HAIR THATS TIED UP WITH AT LEAST 4 RUBBER BANDS- CLOTHES DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO WEAR. THINK YOU CAN FIND ME? HOW ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE?
MARIA <SPARKS_1@HOTMAIL.COM>
COVINA, CA 91722 -

Whoops, I haven't posted here in ages, I have no idea what's going on and I really need to update the site soon...hmm.
...what are these stickers and why don't I have any?! <=(
Bronagh <bronagh@acidkiss.org>
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i don't think you're ready for this jelly
kidneythief <blowupdisneyland@hotmail.com>
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I got my tickets for the Hammerstein ballroom show on 8/13! Who else is going to that show and wants to meet up??
natalie
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GMT means Grenich Mean Time or however you spell it.. blah.. I'm soooo stoked off going to the vid. shoot. me and my friend raina are gonna be there.. should I wear the shirt I made? hehehehe :)
Kim <kaliequeen@sickbeatzpromotions.com>
encinitas, ca usa -

Yeah I remember her- that was interesting. Mainplace mall can be scary at times-- lots and lots of people when hectic-but I guess its the best of the malls around here then. Hope to see you all on Tues.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

YEAHHHH RYAN!!! That's Sandy the one who falls on purpose!!!
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA 90034 -

hey chris i'll definetely be waiting at mainplace mall.....it's not too far where i live so my sister will be dropping me off there....then i can go and shop around...i'll be carrying my dad's cell phone...so you can call me when you arrive...i'll call you later to discuss further...
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Lexington Steele, are you going to the video shoot?
Chris
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Ah well this is good...this mail I got says the shoot will run from 4:00PM - 6:00PM PDT (GMT-07:00)...whatever GMT means..good morning time...gay mating time...lol. That's good since I live in OC.Now tell me this, guys, is my body too bootylicious for ya babe?
Chris
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I know sandy-- she falls down on purpose right?
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

NOOOOO!!! I AM GONNA BE GONE AGAIN!-----Deadsy will play an ALL AGES show at The House of Blues (Orange County, Ca) on Thursday 6/28/01. Tickets are $15 and can be purchased at ticketmaster.com or the House of Blues box office (714-778-BLUE). Doors open at 7pm, The Calling goes on at 8pm, DEADSY plays at 10pm, and Hate Dept. plays at 11:15pm.
Alex
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well i'm not going to the video shoot! so ner!!!
and i prefer 'jumpin' thats my fave destinys child song! and i also quite like 'don't stop movin' by Sclub7 at the moment..but thats enuff pop!

alex ..... cradle of filth are sooooooo good live! you'll enjoy yourself!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

OOOOHHH You know what song I'm diggin' right now??? "Get Your Freak On" by Missy Elliot. Dude, it's a good song and it got good beats in it ha ha ha ha. I had a hard time finding what to wear for the video. I was like searching everywhere for something nice to wear, but I did find something nice to wear at a 10 dollar clothing store. YAY!!! hee hee hee...Well, I hope to meet some of you on Tuesday. Byeeee....
Lorie
Los Angeles, CA -

"Survivor" still gets my vote as my fav. Destiny Child's song. lol.. However, as for Lady Marmalade.. that's my Chemistry class' theme song. We all sleep through it. hahaha.. Oh don't worry Linds. I still don't know what goes good with a tie. lol.. maybe a Shirt?? later y'all ~Emily
Emily
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Ohhhh Chris you must have missed our whole Destiny's Child convo here on the speak out. Yep, yep....I happen to LOVE them. They make me wanna dance. As well as theSTART...heh. But yes, they make me feel like such a .....survivor. <3
Linds <KaNdYrAz0r@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

I'm digging that new Destiny's Child song "Bootylicious" in a big way. Also loving "Lady Marmalade". LOL. Actually I like Destiny's Child period. Am I alone in this?
Chris
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Yay! I am on that special thingie thing....too bad I don't live at home to recieve a package. But I will drop by to pick up my mail. And I am going to the video shoot!!! It's gunna be sooooooooo much fun! I am going with my friends Jeannette and Joey. And then we have Amanda going with Anna. And then there's HoLLiE going with Gnatty! Ohhhh what fun. Anyways I am 17 in case anyone wanted to know...or cared. I am very excited for Tuesday, and I am having trouble deciding what to wear...*sigh* There's always SOMETHING to worry about, isn't there?
Linds <KandyRaz0r@aol.com>
Burbank, Ca -

i am going to the video shoot. i am ninety nine. i am not a special elite something-or-other but i can pretend to be. did the denver show get cancelled too?
~sir puke~
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I can't wait to meet some new faces!!! Oh yeah and my friend Sandy is going,too.I'm 19 by the way,too.
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

Me, Lindsay, Lorie, Anna, and JEAN are going...hehe and I am assuming Katie and Sara... since we always go! :) I can't wait to meet all the rest of you!!! Don't forget your dancing shoes! ;) xoxoxoxxoxoxo
AMANDA <spookyw0rmybaby@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

I am for sure going ellen, so definatly count me in.....i'm also bring about 4 more people, you'll love them.
erika <Black_morbid_angel@hotmail.com>
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im going. for sure.
Tina <badbrains326@hotmail.com>
canyon country, ca -

me me me! i'm going :) i'm 20. any idea how long we'll be at the shoot?
Jean <defgurl1@aol.com>
La..., -

i want to be on the elite sector thing too! what is it?!? *katie*
katie <trixxi14@yahoo.com>
L.A, ca -

okay so we have emily, lorie, erika, chris, and ryan going to the video shoot....who else is going?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Can't wait to meet everyone at the video shoot! We'll have fun won't we people?? You know you'll rock the house with theStart together!!! :-) hehe.. Oh.. I dyed my hair half pink on wednesday night.. it didn't turned out that good. lol.. I run out of bleach at like 12 at night. hahaha.. so I have like Oranger, pink, and black hair. lol.. it's all good ~Emily
Emily <emi32585@aol.com>
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the stickers are cute and RED now? i have a black and pink one on the back of my car, i was lucky to score it i suppose. oh yeah, i'm 17. and buying sugar ray tickets tomorrow. and if they drop off the sugar ray tour.. well then.
stefanie
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I'm working on getting CCM past the "Just started" level, so I'm looking for any contributions.Particularly Fan Pictures, meetings or opinions of Aimee and the Band. Let me know if you have anything to share :)

Respect and Freedom, Jeannie
Jeannie <jeanniejermain@music.com>
Hellsville, BC Canada -

hey, i just got my stuff too. there are a crapload of flyers. oh my god...the stickers are really cool. i had two of them before, and i wanted more so this is rad. by the way..im 21! see you kids at the video shoot!
Tina <badbrains326@aol.com>
canyon country, ca -

By the way, doesn't Angelina Jolie look HOT in the ads for Tomb Raider? That is one sexy girl.I mean, damn, I'm straight and love the male gender and all, but for that chick, well, she can turn me lesbian ANY DAY.
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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I got my elite sector stuff today...it's a LOT of lil white flyers that advertise the free show and a bunch of cute red theSTART stickers...they are too adorable...just like the band. Heheh. By the way I'm 18...I feel amazing, I turned in my senior exit paper today-that's the last thing I needed before graduation. This huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders.One more week of high school..to anyone that is still in high school..enjoy it..the end will come sooner than you think.
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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hey whats everyones age? i see everyones's names so often and sometimes location but how old is everyone?~~21~~*tomm**
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

Anyone else goin to see Cradle Of Filth? Tickets went on sale 4 minutes ago. Boy oh boy, I am in the need of a lil black metal. Anyone who is goin, maybe we can meet up and hold eachother while scary people sacrifice stuff.
Alex
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Amanda, aawww I wish you were apart of it,too. :( I dunno what it is, I'm still pondering ha ha ha ha...See you Tuesday.
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

HEY! I want to be on the "special elite" sector thingy!! >:( (what is that, by the way?) xoxoxoxoxoxo
+AMANDA+ <spookyw0rmybaby@aol.com>
Burbank, CA -

hows it going everyone. are there any aimee fans in texas besides me? if so, mail me. I cant wait for the cd to come out, im very excited.
nic <mrbungl150@aol.com>
TX USA -

HI everyone! hmm...where is the special section list?
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chris....you lucky bastard!!

how are you all anyway, no-one has asked that in a while so i thought i would!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

Indeed, dude. That was NICE. Remember when John from SOAD was hitting on me at the Whisky? Come to think of it, that was a START show. Nice. Well, you and I are jaded Californians now so we don't get all crazy like we used to when we saw bands and rockstars. We're used to it. LOL.Although I almost swooned when I met Chino. I was cool, though. That was embarassing when I left the lens cap on the camera when I was taking a pic of him and Vince and Chino pointed it out. Dummy. (me I mean). Guys, wanna hear something cool? Alright we have a substitute in my government class. He was taking attendance and when he got to name he said "Chris..rockstar." Buddy's only been here like 3 days and he realizes this?? I felt very cool, and yes, rockstarish. HEY IT MADE MY DAY ALRIGHT??? haha. And yeah, I am wondering how the hell did I get picked for the Elite sector. Maybe my rad article had something to do with it? Who knows?
Chris <fluxdiablo@aol.com>
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I was lookin at all the names of the people who are on the "special sector" and they seem to be everyone who doesn't live in LA. Like, Chris and I are in OC...that's 2 outta 10. Boy oh boy.....I guess it's just cause were cool and shit, Chris. Like we were cool when rockstars would follow us around to shows.....lol. Member DAT?
Alex
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Hey Chris, me and my girlie Jean are apart of the Special Sector,too. I find it weird. I'm still pondering over how did we get up there??? Anywho, I hope to see some of ya' at the videooo shoot. I'm sooo excited weee!!!!
Lorie <DiabloPixie@AOL.COM>
Los Angeles, CA -

so how many people are going to the video shoot?? please tell me what you're gonna wear then I can meet up with you:)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

good job chris! how'd the heck did you get elected to that?
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

ooh i feel so special...I have been chosen to be a special Elite Sector of the START legions...heheheh..sounds cool. We are the best of the best! I feel honored...special elite sector of the Start..that sounds like the captain of a military squadron that's set to go off into space, to boldly go where no man has gone before. Damn right. I need a cool special Elite Sector name...like uh..hmm...dammit. I can't think. ::will be waiting at the mailbox for those bitchin' flyers::
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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I wanted to know about "A Prayer Under Pressure"...the other one is a live cd, right?? I love My Ruin and all, but I think Tairrie should sing more....she kinda overdoes that spoken word thing..she has a beautiful voice and should use it more. I STILL LOVE TAIRRIE!!!!!!!! ::smooches::
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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Hey thanks everyone!
maria <sparks_1@hotmai.com>
covina, ca 91722 -

Hey everyone. Chris...which MY RUIN cd are you talkin about? A prayer under pressure...or To Britain with love and bruises or something like that. A prayer was just released here, but To britain is the newest one released on the other side of the pond. i have a prayer, i like it much more than speak and destroy, its easier to get into for me.
natalie
yonkers, ny -

Happy birthday Maria! And yeah, my friend is taking me and Ellen to the shoot. It's gonna be such fun! Erika..that album is AWESOME...one of my favorites of all time...I've had it for a few years now and I can never get sick of it. My favorite songs are "Vitamin" "New Skin" "A Certain Shade of Green" and "Calgone". Does anybody have the new My Ruin cd?? How is it?
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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Happy early B-day maria. Has anyone ever heard the S.C.E.I.N.C.E. album from incubus? Bad ass album!
erika
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maria...hippy bobday for saturday!
malcolm...did you get owt off them that my sister could have..she'd have your children if you did!! and you are a bastard for meeting them!...but i still love you!!!

when is the goddamn album out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

i just found out how good thestart is from the kittie board and im tellin all my friends bout them id be cool if there was a street team oh well
The Phoenix <theoneandonlyphoenix@hotmail.com>
monroe, wi usa -

hey my b-day is sat, june 9th, i'm gonna be 21!!!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

now is everyone going to the shoot? ride arrangements made?
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

guess what!!! yesterday morning my boyfriend heard theStart "Hang on Me" on music choice which is a cable music station that plays only music to a blue screen. it gave theStarts name and the song title but it said that the album title and record company name was unavailable. HEY THEY WERE PLAYED ON TV!!!!
maria <sparks_1@hotmail.com>
covina, ca usa -

I'm glad to see the Start finally get their album out. Aimee Echo rules!! Check her out on Professional Murder Music's new album too. Oh, and check out Sicboy at www.sicboy.com Another awesome band!!
Mike <invivo@erols.com>
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Thanks guys for the sweet compliments..we got delayed and go to print Friday. Hopefully I'll have copies by the video shoot and I can give some to you guys.
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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"you want to know when i wash my hands? when i shit on them. and that happens two, maybe three times a week tops." ~ george carlin

did you miss me? i was absent for almost two whole weeks or something! attending to location problems. all better now. much better. this is my first day back online. anywho, i was thinking about this whole video shoot thingie and it seems like shakedown would be the song to have the performance video for, not gorgeous, coz the crowd participation makes it look hella tight. there's nothing cooler to have in a video than a venue full of synchronized fist pumping. is gregory dark still directing?
~sir puke~
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They are TOTALLY mentioned!!!
Alex
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Here is the ad out of OC Weekly! Click Here
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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ahh i'll be there.. as well as at warped (sigh)... hope to see you there, of all the big venues in new york i'm glad they picked hammerstein. i enjoy hammerstein. i despise roseland. still one day it would be nice to have a theSTART show in a smaller venue like the bowery ballroom or something. i am crossing my fingers.
stefanie
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Hey people. Just got back from the movies - saw 'Series 7 - The Contenders' which was wierd and funny... best thing about it though was the soundtrack which was done mostly by GVSB! Go see the movie and listen to the soundtrack. Other than that i don't really have anything vaguely interesting to say, so i'll just go now. byebye
Fiona
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Hey everyone how are you all?
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by the way...CHRIS : excellent job, great article!
natalie
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Stefanie -- we have a ticket master (aka ticketbastard) at my job. i went into work a few minutes early the other day to buy tickets cos i swore i read somewhere that the tix went on sale june 2nd at the box offices. but they were tellin me they go on sale on June 9th at noon. i think this information may have caused a nervous twitch :o)
natalie <nirvanavcv@aol.com>
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Yeah I saw that mag w/ theSTART in it- they still call the album CIRCLES though- oh well any publicity is good publicity as long as they spell your name right Simon Says played Chain Reaction tonight- twas wonderful- miss school for theSTART- I am cutting my Vegas vacation 5 days short and missing the 2nd day of Summer session to go to this video- well worth it-- even if you have to repeat j/k.
ryan <heroelux@aol.com>
anaheim, ca usa -

It went pretty well Jen. Brandon is cool as fuck. And I got to interview Hundred Reasons too!

Oh, and Chris, damn good article man, send it to the printers.
Metal Malcolm
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ha!ha! I thought I'd find you (Chris) on this website! Argh.. too bad the video shoot is on a school day (yes, I know im a good little girl but i need my education) :|
Torrey <feiticeira_wp@yahoo.com>
Orange, Ca US -

why are tickets for sugar ray's new york show not on sale? don't tell me they sold out. i'll kill.
stefanie
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excellent article chris, well written and the way you described their sound was so incredable.....it just wants to make you search for their music anywhere. when it comes out in the paper mail it to me. bye ya'll
erika
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yeah...leeds and reading would be a fantastic idea! specially leeds...i'm gonna have my own village there! i found out today tha fear factory are the bill for them both!! woohoo!

malcolm...how did things go with incubus? you twat!
jen jen
manchester, uk -

chris i got those hard drive cds too and i totally understand what you mean. i have refused to download or burn the cd so when i was reading the box and saw theSTART i freaked out (i actually dropped the box on the floor) i've given them my friends that i've been going on and on (and on and on hehe) to about theSTART to for a very long time and they both liked it a lot. i'm passing the rest out this weekend so hopefully when you guys come to michigan you'll have some more people there to see you!
teresa <infinite_fantasia@yahoo.com>
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I just learned of The Start and I can't wait. I still listen to Human Waste Project all the time but have been wanting to hear more of the amazing Aimee Echo's voice very much. The dance aspect to there new music is fantastic and so is the entire vibe they appear to be going for. With everything falling into place so great for something to make me excited I just can't believe the tour. I wish the band all the best in the future, we need more great bands but Sugar Ray? Sorry, I just couldn't handle it. I have respect for so much music on so many levels listening to stuff like Portishead and Curve to 80's New wave and Pop like The Cars and Stacey Q.. But Sugar Ray is one of those bands I just can't have any level of respect for, they hit it big with Fly and have recorded cheesy pop songs every since. I don't really understand what happened to artistic integrity, or I should really say art in general. Every time I see them on TV I just get this terrible bad feeling that makes me want to scream and cry, kind of like when I see an N'Sync video. If I lived close to Minneapolis I would go just for The Start but I live 4 hours away, so I hope to catch them playing a gig at First Avenue or The Quest Club, that would be worth the four hours, gas and food. Ahhh, I can't wait. Much love and respect to everyone. I have to go work on my own music now, just me, my JP-8000, Modtracker and my computer. BYE!
Leo Alberti <neonagain@hotmail.com>
Bemidji, MN USA -

PLEASE PLAY THE U.K. - reading and leeds festivals would be nice!!
colin <evil_ging@nme.com>
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EXCELLENT article Chris! It was very informative about their history and good description on their sound and why they're such an awesome band..Thanks for actually mentioning me....I'm so glad you're writing an article for them in the newspaper...it's a great way to spread good music :)
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

i cant wait to see you guys in indianapolis!! keep on rockin!!
Myra <zerosignal66@hotmail.com>
columbus, in united states -

that got all jumbled together. the title is "theSTART just wanna make you dance" by Chris Guerra- El Modena Frontline...there's paragraphs and stuff it'll look more organized on a newpaper page...the message board smooshes everything together. Sorry guys that it's really long but please take the time to read it. I need opinions.We go to press tomoorrow or Tuesday.
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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Hey guys..here's the TENTATIVE article. If there are any facts that I was misinformed upon please tell me..thanks guys..tell me what u think theSTARTjust wanna make you dance by Chris Guerra Staff Writer-El Modena Frontline Some bands want to make you mosh. Some bands want to make you cry. Some bands want to make you scream. theSTART want to make you dance. "Dance if you want to," is their motto. And trust me, after hearing this incredible band, you'll want to. Their sound is like no other. "We're music from the future," guitarist Jamie Miller told Loudside.com. It blends the pop sensibilities of The Cure with the dark melodies of Depeche Mode, with a dash of Nine Inch Nails' and Orgy's technical wizardy added to the mix. And don't forget their upbeat sassiness, courtesy of Siouxie and the Banshees and No Doubt. As for the songs, they're catchy as hell. Once you hear the aptly titled "Gorgeous", it'll be in your head for days. The punk-flavored "Shakedown" and the sweet candy that is "Glimmerman" will have you addicted to theSTART in no time. Gorgeous singer Aimee Echo enchants you with her shimmering vocals that invite you to spin around in a blissful trance, while axeman Jamie Miller coaxes flirtatious melodies out of his guitar and into your ears. The rhythm section is solid and precise. Jeff Jaeger's bass makes you jump up and down with tuneful grooves that mesmerize you for days and drummer Scott Ellis skillfully punctuates each song with fast-paced beats and fills. They do this all with incredible showmanship and are remarkably humble and easygoing, prompting dedicated fans like Ellen Pham to remark,"I love theSTART's music because the minute I hear it, it just makes me want to get up, dance and have a good time. It's a rarity for music today to make you do that." theSTART may be considered by most to be newbies in the music scene, but actually, they're seasoned veterans. Echo and Ellis were in Human Waste Project, a devastatingly good heavy rock band that toured with the likes of Deftones and Korn, before breaking up in early 1998. Miller played drums for influential band Snot. theSTART formed in 3 years ago (under the original name of Hero) from the ashes of these bands and have been going strong ever since. They've played many respected venues including the Whisky, Roxy, and Troubadour in Los Angeles, Pound in San Francisco and of course, our very own Chain Reaction. Not to mention, they've also opened for Orgy, Cold, Videodrone, and strangely enough, Goldfinger. Where can you hear theSTART? For now, you can download a few songs off of their official website (www.thisisthestart.com) or Napster. And of course, their highly anticipated debut album, SHAKEDOWN! rumbles into stores July 24th. They're taking to the road this summer with Sugar Ray. Be there and see the force that is theSTART. theSTART w/ Sugar Ray and Uncle Kracker--Wednesday July 18th at Universal Amphitheatre in Los Angeles and Thursday, July 19th at Open Air Theater/Navy Pier in San Diego. ---and there'll be a picture also..the one on the main page
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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ahhhh!!! I love you Chris!!!! You're the best!! :)Anyways, I went to tower records this morning to get depeche mode tickets....it was such a pain in the ass....they arranged the ticket line by wrist bands so i was in the back of the line even though i was first.....and i sit all the way in the back! oh well at least i get to see them.....oh yeah i was looking at magazines and METAL HAMMER magazine with Linkin Park on the cover has a review of thestart/cold show in L.A.....it even has a pic of aimee....go see this magazine everyone!
ellen <fiendfemme@hotmail.com>
costa mesa, ca -

Just a lil fun info for everyone...don't ask me how I discovered it, but I made up a new drink. Mix about 3/4 of a can of Pepsi One with 1/6 of a bottle of Rolling Rock beer. It's fun!
Alex <Medosa@home.com>
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Hey guys...I'm just about done with my article on theSTART but I need just a few background details. When did HWP break up? I'm under the impression that it's 98 but I just wanna make sure. Also, what bands have theSTART played with that are a little recognizable? Remember, this article is going to your typical moronic high schooler. I've got Cold, Videodrone, Orgy, Simon Says and Goldfinger. One more thing, sweeties...did HWP ever tour with Korn? I know that they did that song but I'm not sure if they toured. Pardon me if these questions seem idiotic, but I'm just doing my journalistic duty of making sure my facts are straight. Kisses. ps. I need this by tonight. email me or post ASAP.thanks :)
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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Dammit!!! Why was the Salt Lake concert canceled? I am sad, cause my friends live there, and I would have been able to introducd them to the wonderful band that is theSTART! Is it going to be rescheduled?
Lexx
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I was thinking...after the video shoot..all of us Heretics should arrange to troop to a nearby grease establishment (ie Denny's) and grub and catch up on everything. And the band should come too..What fun it would be!!!
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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No one means all he says, yet very few say all they mean, for words are slippery and thought is viscous. - Henry Adams
just a thought
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malcolm...what a great word confuddled is! hows you anyway mate? haven't heard from you in a few weeks...

have fun on the video shoot and make sure its a really good video and its released to KERRANG! TV! thank you...goodnight
jen jen
manchester, uk -

fyi-Jessicka is also doing a cover of Tori Amos's iieee with meegs from coal chamber. It's going on a Tori tribute album titled "songs of a goddess" due out June 26.
cory riddle <CFRiddle@theFragile.com>
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fyi-jessicka is also doing a cover of Tori Amos's iieee with meegs from coal chamber for a tori tribute album.
cory riddle
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Ellen....I got us a ride. I told my bass player Jody about it and I played theSTART for her and she loved them and really wants to go now. Our friend Casey came over and she said she'll take us and pick you up. We'll have to give some bucks for gas money but it's school. Yay. We're gonna leave after lunch and ditching a few classes. Whatever, it's 2 days before senior's last day. Hehe. So anyway we got a ride. Oooh now I can buy a new outfit. YAYYYY.
Chris <FluxDiablo@aol.com>
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shall we begin?
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